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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

Acme 04 Jun 09 - 09:33 PM
Amos 04 Jun 09 - 07:29 PM
Bee-dubya-ell 04 Jun 09 - 06:31 PM
Rapparee 04 Jun 09 - 04:35 PM
Little Hawk 04 Jun 09 - 03:31 PM
Amos 04 Jun 09 - 03:29 PM
Bee-dubya-ell 04 Jun 09 - 03:28 PM
Amos 04 Jun 09 - 03:05 PM
Little Hawk 04 Jun 09 - 01:58 PM
Amos 04 Jun 09 - 12:07 PM
Amos 04 Jun 09 - 11:33 AM
Rapparee 04 Jun 09 - 11:30 AM
Amos 04 Jun 09 - 10:47 AM
Amos 04 Jun 09 - 10:22 AM
Acme 04 Jun 09 - 10:21 AM
Bee-dubya-ell 04 Jun 09 - 09:45 AM
Bee-dubya-ell 04 Jun 09 - 09:44 AM
Rapparee 04 Jun 09 - 09:23 AM
Rapparee 04 Jun 09 - 09:16 AM
Little Hawk 04 Jun 09 - 01:05 AM
Janie 04 Jun 09 - 12:47 AM
Little Hawk 04 Jun 09 - 12:38 AM
Amos 04 Jun 09 - 12:17 AM
Janie 03 Jun 09 - 11:08 PM
Bee-dubya-ell 03 Jun 09 - 09:57 PM
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Amos 03 Jun 09 - 09:29 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 09:33 PM

Newsflash! Poop seen from space!

Yup. You betcha.

Penguin stained ice, and it isn't just skid marks.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 07:29 PM

Fortunately, there is a built-in resistance to spending money you don't have, whether yoou need something or not. Usually, you gotta have it before you spend it.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 06:31 PM

The Google ad is touting Neuropsychology Services. Well, goody for them, but I don't need neuropsychology servicing right now. A modern brain in good working order can easily go 6,000 thoughts between servicings. Sure, they want you to have your brain serviced every three months or 3,000 thoughts (whichever comes first), but that's bogus. 3,000 was the standard for old-style brains on old-style drugs. The drugs are so much better now than they used to be that every 6,000 thoughts or six months is perfectly adequate. In fact, it probably won't damage your brain to go as high as 10,000 thoughts between servicings. They're just trying to get you to spend money you don't have on something you don't need.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 04:35 PM

Do your utmost to refrain, please.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 03:31 PM

Still, Amos, the efficacy of effectuating your effective demise would be, I think, effective in its overall effect...effectively speaking...

Are we nearing 30,000?

Where is Bill Shatner at this vital time? I should call him up.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 03:29 PM

The weekend days will soon be here!
No pleasure will I lack!
For as the dawn breaks o'er the sea
I will be there riding the waves so free
At sea in my old Kayak.

Go off on bus, or bike or plane,
With an overstuffed back-pack!
I'd rather be on the ocean's breast,
Hearing the wild gull sing my rest,
At sea in my old Kayak.

For the quiet dip of the skipper's blade
In the predawn waters black
Brings a solitude and a comfort deep
Worth the pain of a badly broken sleep,
Out at sea in my old Kayak.

Heerleysian Oldufferby Lowe
Dumb Songs from Smartmouths
Bodleian Library Publications
London, 1838


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 03:28 PM

♫♫
Jeepers! Creepers! Where's ya get dem peepers?
Jeepers! Creepers! Where's ya get demise?
♫♫


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 03:05 PM

The desire to effectuate my demise, sir, has been greatly exaggerated.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 01:58 PM

Those Phillipine Tarsiers have got to be about the cutest thing going. They look much too gentle to be useful in accomplishing Amos's demise.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 12:07 PM

IF you insist, sir, on being dumbfounded by simple typographical errors, perhaps you should find other employment. I understand Walmart is looking for Senior Greeters in your area...

Or, if you are feeling more adventurous, there are a number of Nigerian banks, princes, widows of millionaires, and mega-wealthy heirs who seem to be at loose ends figuring out how to dsipose of large numbers of millions of dollars. You may just be the right person at the right time...



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 11:33 AM

Oh Thirty K, I hear you calling!
Away, you thirty thousand!
Where Little Hawk and Rapaire are squalling,
Away, we're bound away
Along to the thirty thousand.

The old MOAB, she's a mighty mother!
Away, you thirty thousand!
Where posters bother one another,
Away, we're bound away
I'm bound for thirty thousand.

Oh MOAB, discipline your daughters!
Away, you thirty thousand!
They never mind you as they oughter!
Away, we're bound away
We are bound for thirty thousand.

Oh, MOAB, put your sons to working!
Away, you thirty thousand!
They're as uselss as a broke-down gherkin!
Away, we're bound away
We are bound for thirty thousand.

Oh, MOAB, put away your hulas!
Away, you thirty thousand!
Your remote controls, and your old spaTUlas,
Away, we're bound away
We are bound for thirty thousand.

Oh, MOAB, sure I love your daughters!
Away, you thirty thousand!
They heat my brain like fire-water!
Away, we're bound away
We are bound for thirty thousand.


Collected from the singing of "Uncertain Angel" Harridan of Antimaya, Wisconsin, in the field surveys of "High Max" Alain O'Dale
Deeper Truth Recordings, Knoxville, 1949


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 11:30 AM

Sod oing? Is that like the guy who yelled to his friend, "Watcha doin'?" and the friend replied "Laying sod" to which the first guy said, "She got a sister?" Or is it a comment similar to "Sod off!"? Perhaps if I know who oing was....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 10:47 AM

Mawmag don't allow no banana peeling round here!
Mawmag don't allow no banana peeling round here!
We don't care what Mawmag don't allow
We'll peel our bananas anyhow.
Mawmag don't allow no banana peeling round here!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 10:22 AM

Oh, Rapaire, you are so fatuous and glib. The synchrony of cellular/morphological and molecular signaling events is interesting enough, but has nothing to do with the subject of this thread.

I suggest you start a new thread entitled "The synchrony of cellular/morphological and molecular signaling events and its IMpact on Folk Music"; you will surely get all the attention you yearn for by sod oing.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 10:21 AM

I believe, LH, that those creatures peering up at Amos are the Tarsius syrichta.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 09:45 AM

until Mom hits the BIG Three-Oh!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 09:44 AM

A mere 500 posts to go...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 09:23 AM

(By the way, Amos -- there's a nice discussion of stochastic event synchrony here.)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 09:16 AM

Those with cognitive impairment need all the sleepy-time they can get. Otherwise they're grouchy and over-tired the next day. My studies allow me to state this without fear of any reasonable or intelligent contradiction.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 01:05 AM

Not to worry! I am just engaging in the usual silly banter that goes back and forth between me and Amos and Rapaire. I envision Amos's ultimate fate involving a plunge from a high wire into a pit filled with ravenous rodents of some kind. Rats? Shrews? Hamsters? I can't quite make them out but there are a lot of beady little eyes gazing upward in anticipation, that's for sure.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 12:47 AM

Now LH, "Don't lie, it's not nice...."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 12:38 AM

Actually, your fate and karma are considerably worse than that, Amos, but I shan't elaborate. It might cause you some sleepless nights, and I wouldn't want that to happen.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 12:17 AM

I suppose it is my fate and karma to inherit such a rambunctious flood of unctuous condescension cloaked in rambling irrelevancy disguised as a proposition, sirrah!! For this I take full responsibility. But to blithely scrabble the works of others' labour and splice and parse them as mere ammunition in such a garrulous perfidy is scarcely respectable, and lends no credence to your imaginary aspirations to excellence in any dimension.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 11:08 PM

If Rapaire is the point, then we can say with absolute certainty that there is no point.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 09:57 PM

I had one of them gognitive impairment things for a while. Had some cogs that was meant to mesh in pairs, but I couldn't get 'em to do it to save my life. Took that sucker back to Sears and got my money back.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 09:38 PM

I may have slightly misled Amos a little bit. I was using him to test a technique best explained by its abstract:

Stochastic event synchrony is a technique to quantify the similarity of pairs of signals. First, events are extracted from the two given time series. Next, one tries to align events from one time series with events from the other. The better the alignment, the more similar the two time series are considered to be. In Part I, the companion article in this issue, one-dimensional events are considered; this article concerns multidimensional events. Although the basic idea is similar, the extension to multidimensional point processes involves a significantly more difficult combinatorial problem and therefore is nontrivial.

Also, in the multidimensional process, the problem of jointly computing the pairwise alignment and SES parameters is cast as a statistical inference problem. This problem is solved by coordinate descent, more specifically, by alternating the following two steps: (1) estimate the SES parameters from a given pairwise alignment; (2) with the resulting estimates, refine the pairwise alignment. The SES parameters are computed by maximum a posteriori (MAP) estimation (step 1), in analogy to the one-dimensional case. The pairwise alignment (step 2) can no longer be obtained through dynamic programming, since the state space becomes too large. Instead it is determined by applying the max-product algorithm on a cyclic graphical model.

In order to test the robustness and reliability of the SES method, it is first applied to surrogate data. Next, it is applied to detect anomalies in EEG synchrony of mild cognitive impairment (MCI) patients. Numerical results suggest that SES is significantly more sensitive to perturbations in EEG synchrony than a large variety of classical synchrony measures.


I hope that he doesn't mind, but the phrase "mild cognitive impairment" of course immediately suggested him. My research, however, clearly demonstrates that I was in error, as his cognitive impairment is anything but mild.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 08:19 PM

A point 0-dimensional mathematical object, which can be specified in n-dimensional space using n coordinates. Although the notion of a point is intuitively rather clear, the mathematical machinery used to deal with points and point-like objects can be surprisingly slippery. This difficulty was encountered by none other than Euclid himself who, in his Elements, gave the vague definition of a point as "that which has no part."

The basic geometric structures of higher dimensional geometry--the line, plane, space, and hyperspace--are all built up of infinite numbers of points arranged in particular ways.

These facts lead to the mathematical pun, "without geometry, life is pointless."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 07:43 PM

MWahahahaha!! ALL things? It must be some tiny point indeed. The number of things to be measured in the sub-nanometer range, just for example, exceeds those of normal 1-100 meter scales by several orders of magnitude, even when you count broken guitar strings.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 07:00 PM

Contrary to the Kubla Khan knockoff, one NEEDS a brain to enter here. Functional levels may vary, however.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 05:12 PM

I'm the point against with all things are measured.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 03:39 PM

THe universe prolly comes crashing in around yer ears...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 02:23 PM

What happens if you decide to move the point?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 02:19 PM

Actually it's non-dimensional. I exist only as a point.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 01:38 PM

That's not a point of view--it's a state of obsessive self-absorption. In your case, however, these two values may approach each other asymptotically.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 01:30 PM

From my point of view everything is one dimensional.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 01:23 PM

The olgs crawl in, the olgs crawl out
They leave their residue all about,
They hide inside the parlor walls,
And fuck up everything.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 01:02 PM

Far in the distant deserts of the Mudcat tribe,
A towering pleasure-dome was made,
With topics higher than the palms are high,
And posts of beauty writ, all unafraid;

Here there was art, and truth, and wit ran free,
Behind a towering golden portal tall,
And nothing writ therein was dull or twee,
And never a post was flat, nor subject, small.

Here there were poets making music in their lines
Here were philosophers who knew not Fear.
And on that portal high, this legend warned each mind:
Abandon All Brains, oh Ye Who Enter Here.

Ozzie Manjus King
Wet Wit in a Dry Place
Corinthians Publications, Oshkosh, 2001


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 12:36 PM

Oh, don't you read that thread!
That Saggy Baggy Thread!
You know that thread is causing such a pain!
And if you read that thread!
That Saggy Baggy Thread!
It just might make me lose my brain!

Etc....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 11:48 AM

Seriously, folks, flatness is an interesting variation on dimensionality in general and an exception to the archetypal pattern of space generating as far as the "I" can see; this is why theuniverse is expanding--because people keep looking.

But with flatness, your dimensionality bounces back on you, and a series of pointillist rebukes, informing you that you must not see through this plane, comes zooming back at you from every point of the surface. THis can feel very frustrating and unnacheral. Nevertheless, it is just a variation on the ancient theme of having a point of view and deciding, therefore, to have something to view therefrom. The fundamentals still apply, as Space goes by.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 10:44 AM

Poor ol' Mom, she has a post
That's pale as Casper the Friendly Ghost
But Amos thinks that he's the man
Can turn that post a shade of tan
Just like brown gravy from a can
Poured on an overdone pot roast


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 09:29 AM

Saggy baggy thread!! Git on up witchoo or I'll tan your post!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 08:42 AM

MOM! Wake UP!

You fell asleep watching TV again, didn't you?

Have a nice warm raspberry muffin. And some tea.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 01:50 AM

This discussion has a flattop. WHich is different from a tin can.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 11:31 PM

Dimension? I don't know--you're flat out of time.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 10:47 PM

But in what dimensionality?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 07:34 PM

Okay, a wall can be flat, meaning "smooth and even", yet vertical.

But a floor can be flat, meaning "smooth and even", and flat, meaning "horizontally level. So, a floor could be said to be twice as flat as a wall.

But if one were to paint the wall with flat wall paint, the wall would then be just as flat as the floor.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 06:36 PM

Draw your own bills and send them.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 06:29 PM

Zimbabwayan. LH won't know the difference.

However...if you, LH, knew anything about dimensional geometry you'd realize that from a perspective of less than or more than three dimensions your argument regarding horizonality falls flat.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 06:06 PM

Is that $20 Canadian or US?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 05:37 PM

Flat can be horizontal, Bee-dub, but it doesn't have to be. A wall is flat, yet it is also vertical. A leaning board is flat, yet it is leaning between the horizontal and vertical. Now that I have you wriggling in the grip of irrefutable logic, I think it is time to offer you a chance to purchase a way out of the humiliating spot you are in. ;-) I will accept unmarked bills in denominations over $20 to allow you to slink away without further embarrassment...


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