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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Nov 07 - 12:13 PM

Fine to see a man who knows how to dress, and keeps his priorities straight.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Nov 07 - 11:41 AM

Marinara with red vestments, pesto with green, alfredo with white and gold, and olive oil with garlic for everything else.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 17 Nov 07 - 11:15 AM

It's fine with me. Just watch out for marinara stains on the papal robes.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Nov 07 - 10:44 AM

Welcome, SRS, to 40 days and 40 nights of rain and high winds....

Theological question: can I be Pope and still believe in FSM?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 11:09 PM

While you've been scratching your noodles I've been dodging with my noggin all day, avoiding falling bits of roof, nails, roofing felt, etc. It's like living inside a goddamn drum to stay home when the roofers do your house, and by the time they were replacing some decking directly over my office I was getting more than a bit of a tension headache. I've been outside quite a bit today watching, calming the dogs, walking the dogs, moving them from inside to out so they could watch the activity from their kennel. The job continues tomorrow. The back side of the house and all of the garage are finished. The gables are all ready to do, felt down, and packages of shingles spread around up there. The cut is in for the ridge vent (open to the sky right now). They finish in the morning.

Next week, we start in on the paint.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 10:30 PM

I don't think the server is overwhelmed Rapaire. I believe it is strong evidence that the FSM is at work.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 10:27 PM

The prophet speaks

I don't think MOM would like it if I converted. She has always told me to be very, very wary of noodly appendages.

If, however, I could buy inot a franchise....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 09:50 PM

I think that the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster's server has been overwhelmed. Check it out on Wikipedia. I kinda like the "Eight 'I'd Really Rather You Didn'ts'".

In fact, I might open a branch here in Pocatello.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 02:18 PM

I posted a link to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster earlier, but I think that its poor server is now overloaded. They've got some neat stuff in their store; I might even buy their "fish".


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 01:29 PM

Thanks, good Rapaire. I am in your debt for bringing this to my attention. I will be there with bells on. Also cap, pointy shoes, and funny baton.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 01:24 PM

Heads Up, Amos!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 12:46 PM

Well, as any dickhead knows, capillary action is as capillary action does, I am sure. I learned this maxim from a dyed-in-the-wool dickhead who was a reg'la'r standup guy, and he should know.



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 12:22 PM



you betcha! A little cappilary action going on there when air water and tabletop hookup! On of the things the leonids peek at, I'm sure!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 12:17 PM

The inherent surface tension of water is the same, as Janie speculates. The side away from the air may be up against something more irregular, like a tabletop, which at a molecular level will have lots of peaks and valleys. It will therefore have a non-uniform pressure on various points along the water boundary, and these will change the amount of additional force needed to break the surface tension. The static force between gravity and the irregular structure when the water is at rest counteracts the surface tension in a way not experienced by the air-boundary side. There may be even something else going on right at the perimeter where the air, water, and tabletop meet.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 12:11 PM

Someone should do something about those Leonids! Every year it's the same thing - they start peeking. heck, if you or I did that, we'd be in jail. Especially after the first few offenses - but do they do anything about those dratted Leonids? NO! Year after year, they peek, and then the next year they peek again.

You'd think they'd get tired of peeking but they don't. they are sick little puppies.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 12:01 PM

In other news of interest, from one point of view anyway, there is a new contender for the largest object on the solar system, a title long held by Sol.

Comet Holmes has released so much gas and dust that its extended atmosphere, or coma, is larger than the diameter of the sun."

See this page for details.


And the Leonids are peaking this weekend too!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Janie
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 11:33 AM

Here you go Rap.

I think, (maybe it is best if I don't, but I do), that the surface tension is the same as it is the result of the cohesion of a single layer of molecules.

Funny name for a church, "Web Page Cannot Be Found." Does it mostly attract seekers?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 09:24 AM

FSM. A good Church.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 09:21 AM

Heck, I'll grab another palindrome while I'm at it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 09:21 AM

Can I help you wine about your roof? A nice merlot or perhaps a chablis?

I still want to know the surface tension of the underside of the air/water interface.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 01:55 AM

of Amos' counting poems. 20600.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 01:55 AM

For One


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 01:55 AM

It's Time


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 01:54 AM

Like


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 01:54 AM

Looks


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 01:05 AM

Amos, Janie has it. We're wining about our roofs.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 12:40 AM

Ode to Drip
The sound of a drip could be inspired by the flicking of a finger to your cheek
If that gets old and starts to hurt, just don't fix the leak.
Fin


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 12:13 AM

Accepted by international agreement? Sez who? They sure didn't ask me! If they had, I 'd have suggested something much different from that yellow color they chose for the bottles.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 11:57 PM

STP: Standard Temperature and Pressure, accepted by international agreement to be: 29.9231 "Hg (or 760mm or 1013.25 mb) 60 degrees F (some scales use 59 degrees) 0% RH (for dry air)

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 11:42 PM

Whether it's good or not depends on what you want to do. If you are in the business of changing water into wine, you probably also want to walk on water. You are going to need to lose weight, or at least redistribute your weight so that you exert no more than 72 dynes per centimeter, lower the temperature of the water, or do a combination of both. If you lower the temp to, say -10 c, you can forgo the diet. You might want to skate in stead of walk, though.

Australian water is down under, so it has no surface tension. That's why Jesus wasn't born in Australia. Even so, they manage to turn out some nice wines. They may use STP in their wines, but I doubt it. Unless they use wine to fill-up their gas tanks.

Excuse me, I have to go check the surface tension of the water dripping in the bucket behind me.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 11:40 PM

Rapaire:

That's standard water at standard temp. Janie isn't in Australia, as far as I know...

The dyne is the amount of force needed to move 1 gram of an object 1 centimeter per second squared. The standard temp used is 20º C., and the dynes represent the force needed to break a film of one cm. in length. The surface tension of water decreases with temperature.

It is also true up where you live. You may be more familiar with a surface tension of 22.3, which is the value for ethyl alcohol.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 11:19 PM

And perhaps most importantly: what is the surface tension of the water on the side away from the air?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 11:19 PM

There's a bucket in the attic to catch any rain before it dribbles down through the ceiling into my office. I caught it the first time it leaked and it came through at a ceiling vent so it didn't stain the office ceiling. I've had my fingers crossed that I could get this fixed before there was collateral damage.

No shingles this afternoon. Tomorrow morning, perhaps? And that is supposed to be a "ridge VENT," not a ridge fan. I do inspect work, but the fortunate thing about this project is that all of the workman and contractors are known to me. We have a history. When I moved in here 5 1/2 years ago I knew that I wanted this contractor to do the remodeling, I didn't get second opinions. I'd seen his work at a neighbor's when he did a couple of major projects for her. And his sub-contractors are good. The roofer is the same guy who put the roof on the garage when we built it. Now he's tearing that one off and redoing all roofs (so they match and so the insurance company won't prorate my discount, etc.). The electrician I met through him, and they've been back for several small jobs. The only one new to me is the gutter guy, but he seems like a very personable young many, and his price is quite reasonable. He was recommended by one of the roofing companies I didn't select for the job, but I think the recommendation was based upon the salesman's friendship and the competence of this guy.

The only prepayment in all of this is 15% of the cost for the shingles, to make it a little easier on the roofer when he purchases them. Everyone else will get paid when the job is over--but again, we have a history, they know they'll get paid promptly and in full.

Chances are also good that they'll get other jobs in this neighborhood, because my house is near a bridge, and there is limited access out of the village on this side. Traffic is relatively light, it's all residents, but they sometimes put on roofs and paint their houses. Quite a few people will no doubt remark on the work and I'll be sure to have a few extra business cards for any queries.

We hope to keep the squirrels out again this year. The first winter we had them running around in the attic. Little guys wearing clodhoppers, it sounded like. I climbed up around the soffits and put screen over the holes and that has worked.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 11:13 PM

Is that good? Is it at STP? What is it up where I live? Is that only for Australian water, or does it work for other water? What would it be if I changed the water into wine? Does it hold true if the water is in its vaporous form? Is it true for "heavy water" as well as plain old light water? And couldn't something be done to reduce some of this tension the water is under? Or would it then be under water?

Lordy, Janie, inquiring minds need to know!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 11:07 PM

The surface tension of water is 72 dynes/cm at 25°C .












Just thought you should know.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 10:59 PM

I'm sitting here listening to the the pitter patter of little squirrel feet and their quarrelsome squawks as they feud over which family gets to settle in what segment of the walls for the winter.

When I get bored with that, I can go into the living room and watch the water drip into the bucket from the latest leak in the roof, as we get a rare rain. I wish the drips were a bit more rhythmic.

Don't it make you feel nostalgic already, Maggie?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 09:45 PM

Not to mention the ability to sleep at night.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 09:22 PM

Probably gonna get it done in the Spring. We have to arrange a little matter of financing first.

I think that bright orange shingles striped with black shingles (to honor the local University) might be a nice touch. No resale value, however....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 02:06 PM

I'm cheering for ya, Still -- having just survived a similar series of exciting adventures. Don't be afraid to get up there and inspect the work at the end of the day, but don't step through the holes.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 02:03 PM

Sidestepped a little glitch in the roof this morning--my electrician was able to get away from a list of jobs and come disconnect the attic fan. I didn't want the roofers to encounter a hot line, nor did I want them to have to leave it dangling in the attic (we're taking out that fan and putting in a ridge fan instead). So Duffy and Moses came over to disconnect that fan and we ran that wire over to a point nearby and turned it into an outlet. I didn't have any in the attic (it isn't finished up there, but that doesn't mean I never have anything to plug in if I'm working up there.)

ETA on shingles--sometime today, to be stacked in the driveway. Tomorrow--old roof will be torn off, new roof installed. Painting to start next week--I'm so excited at the new look we'll create, warm colors instead of stark ugly ones. Yesss!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 10:39 AM

ANd I can only assume that e-spersions, which you complain of being cast at you, are a kind of insult transmitted electronically?

"Did you tell Mitch you were annoyed he hadn't included you on his e-vite for the party?"

"No, to hell with him. I sent him an e-spersion."


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 10:34 AM

Well, that's what he gets for being a juggler vain.

You'd be amazed what a little humility will do to smooth out relationships. :D (IIRC, humility is the ability to hum doo-wop songs while doing carpentry).


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 10:25 AM

First they cast espersions on me, yucck
Then they released an inconveinient truth to haunt me.
Now they are going for the juggler.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 10:07 AM

I would think that would be the worst possible time to play the nose flute. Unless he is really dedicated to projecting phlegmboyance.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 09:14 AM

My life is full of stuff like that, Amos. Why, just last evening Jake "Bo-Peep" Scheissenhelm confided to me that he was going to sing several things at the Holiday Concert that That Bunch is planning to put on. His part of the program will consist of a medley composed of

I've Got Ewe Under My Skin
(I Know I'll Never Find) Another Ewe
The Ballad of Desert Bleat
Bonny Hieland Lamby
The Rocks of Baaaa

Since Bo-Peep sings in several keys at the same time while playing the nose flute his appearanc should be met with applause and trepidation, especially if his sinus problems are acting up again.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 10:32 PM

It just shows to go ya, Rapaire:

"A Man's Reality should exceed his grasp
Or what's a "meta" for?"

A. Jessup
Poet Larynx

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 08:51 PM

A true, albeit strange, story:

Last night I was sitting here at Pat's PC, trying to figure out what was wrong, when the phone rang.

It was my nephew, Joe, who's in the Marines. The telephone in his room in the barracks (!) had just been hooked up and he called me. Not his parents, me, his uncle in Idaho.

Now, this wouldn't be too strange in itself (he fights with his father all the time), except that

Joe is stationed at MCAS Iwakuni, about 25 miles from Hiroshima, Japan.

We talked, on his nickel, for about a half hour. I have the phone numbers to both his cell phone and his room, should I want to call him. I also have his address.

He's about the age of SRS's daughter...hmmmm....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 07:55 PM

Look how he vaults over the bank jargon!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 07:36 PM

I don't get any interest from my banked reality.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 01:40 PM

Be careful, Rapaire, I think there's a metaphor creeping up on you!


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