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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

Rustic Rebel 19 Jan 05 - 03:50 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 19 Jan 05 - 03:50 PM

Another 9x9 trick- Start your column at 0 to 9, then reverse it coming back up
09
18
27
36
45
54
63
72
81
90


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Teresa
Date: 19 Jan 05 - 03:04 PM

Oh, was that part of "Schoolhouse Rock" ... that five song? I haven't heard that in ages, but my mom got me the record, and I played it over and over.

On it, the way I learned the nines is this:   except on one times nine, the result in the tens is always one digit less than the factor, as in (six times nine is *fifty*-four, seven times nine is *sixty*-three) and notice that the digit in the ones column decreases by one.

I don't know what I'd do if I didn't have these mnemonic devices. :)

Teresa


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 19 Jan 05 - 11:26 AM

Geeze the sine wave around here is mellerdramatic. From the glorious heights of Helotropism to the mundane mechansims of multiplication! Lofty visions of universal truths today, pedestriam arithmetic tomorrow!!

But I like the 9 tricks.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 19 Jan 05 - 10:57 AM

Speaking of nines...

Basic bookkeeping trick: If you add two columns of numbers twice (as you're supposed to do for accuracy) and you come out with differing totals, subtract the lower total from the higher. If the result is nine or any numbers which equal nine when added together, you probably have a transposition problem. For example, if you were supposed to enter "495" and entered "945" the difference in your totals would be 450 and 4+5+0=9. If you were supposed to enter "25" and entered "52" the difference would be 27 and 2+7=9. If the difference doesn't total to nine, you probably fat-fingered a calculator key.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 19 Jan 05 - 10:37 AM

Just count on your fingers.
Extend all ten fingers(/thumbs) and count left to right, the number you wish to multiply by nine. Turn that finger down, and the number of fingers before the gap is the tens, the number after is the units!

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 19 Jan 05 - 10:31 AM

The nines are easy because the sum is always nine (from (0+9) up to (8+1)).

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 19 Jan 05 - 10:19 AM

Anything times 9 should be easy. When I was struggling to learn the times tables my mother pointed out that with the 9s you could simply do it times 10 then subtract. So 9 x 6, if you can't remember the answer, do 10 x 6 (60) minus 6 = 54.

Then there's the little ditty I grew up with, and the chorus that goes

five times five is twenty-five
five times six is thirty
five times seven is thirty-five
five times eight is forty

Anyone else automatically click into the music when you think about that part of the times table?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 19 Jan 05 - 10:08 AM

Just for the record, and not BS:

six times 7 is 42
six times 8 is 48
six times   9 is 54

It is possible these are the hardest part of the "times" table to remember.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 19 Jan 05 - 06:19 AM

There's a fine song narrating a woman's adventure on the ferry to Vancouver, involving a newspaper, a chcolate bar and a sandwich in similar misunderstanding with more hilarious consequences -- she seeks revenge by snatching a bite of his sandwich by surprise... wish I could remember whose it is (the song, not the sandwich). It gets played on Hober every nowq and again.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Teresa
Date: 19 Jan 05 - 12:44 AM

I've done that! Maybe that means I have a lot more in common with Adams than I thought. :-P :)

I don't know why I'm reminded of this, but once, I was waiting for a bus, and I started idly bouncing my white cane up and down. I noticed that whatever it was landing on was quite soft, but I kept on dropping it lightly. After about ten seconds of this, a quiet voice said: "That's my foot."

Teresa


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 19 Jan 05 - 12:18 AM

Adams was on one of the U.S. talk shows, maybe Johnny Carson or Dick Cavett (we're going back a ways, here) and told a story on himself. He said he decided to use it in a book because after he told it a few times he saw someone else trying to lay claim to it.

He was in a coffee shop waiting for his train, and bought his coffee and a package of cookies and a newspaper. Because of the crowded time of day, he ended up sharing his table with a stranger, who sat down opposite him. They didn't speak. When he looked up from his paper, Adams was shocked to see the man opposite him reach out, rip open the cookies, and eat one. Adams thought he'd shame the fellow into leaving his cookies alone, so he reached out and picked up one and ate it. They ended up going back and forth with the cookies, Adams getting more irritated with each round. A train was entering the station, the stranger got up and left, never having said a word. Only then did Adams pick up the rest of his paper and spotted his own unopened package of cookies on the table. He figured this guy had a similar story to his. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Teresa
Date: 19 Jan 05 - 12:04 AM

As I understand it:

first came the radio program, then came the books, then came the tV show.

Of course I agree with you, SRS. But I'm biased. :) A picture's worth A thousand words, however one wants to take that statement. ;)

Teresa


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 11:56 PM

Clearly, I have to reread (or re-listen to) the story again. I first heard it a long time ago on the radio. That was the best production of all of them, because the pictures and colors are always better on the radio. :)

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Teresa
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 11:56 PM

Ahhhh, it's all so clear now. :)

I just love the way Adams' mind worked. :) I can only slightly aspire to be like that.

But I'm trying.

Teresa


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 11:51 PM

I don't think there was a question, there was just the answer. But let me ask the member of this household who read that book most recently:

Oh, Moonglow, what is the significance of "42" in the universe?"

>>Forty-two was simply the answer to the great question of Life, the Universe, and Everything. It was divulged by a supercomputer, after a thousand (or more) years of waiting. However, the creators of this supercomputer only asked for the answer to this question- to find the question, it would take another, more powerful supercomputer and another thousand (or so) years of waiting. The answer Teresa suggests is one possibility in the Hitchhiker's Guide, when Arthur is attempting to teach a neanderthal(?) to play Scrabble. Ford, somehow coming to the possibility that the question might be imprinted on Arthur's subconscious, has Arthur draw random tiles out of a rabbit-skin (Agrajag's skin, to justify the detail) bag of tiles, spelling out something along the lines of 'What is six times eight' (or something like that, not sure of the last number, but pretty sure it is eight)<<

                           -moonglow


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 10:18 PM

Well that makes two of us who don't recall where the question arose. If we keep this up we can get so much agreement going on about this being unknown that no-one will remember to ask!!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Teresa
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 09:48 PM

I know we do not use prepositions to end our sentences.

Student: Can you tell me where the libary's at?
Prof: I went to Harvard, and I learned there that we do not use prepositions to end a sentence.
Student: Can you tell me where the libary's at, asshole?

GD&RRRRRRRRRRR


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Teresa
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 09:34 PM

What is six times nine?

I think.

and before you jump, that really was the question, though through all the convolutions of the Hitchhiker's Guide, I remember not how that question was arrived at.

Teresa


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 09:30 PM

42?It just is. It is the final answer.

What was the question?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 08:00 PM

Where'd what come from? 42? It came between 41 and 43.

Well, actually, it didn't. "Come from" implies that it was someplace else and was somehow made to be between 41 and 43 when, in fact, 42 has always been between 41 and 43. Well, at least it's been there since very shortly after the Big Bang. Like one gazillionth of a second after it. Just don't ask where it was before the Big Bang.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Teresa
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 06:41 PM

42

Hmmm, where'd that come from? ... ;)

Teresa


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 06:25 PM

Oh do not scramble off like some small roach,
Surprised by light at midnight on the crawl,
Until you contemplate fair Synecdoche
The meaningfullest meaning of them all.
IF ever a part was to stand for all,
Or if a whole to stand for some didst fall
Then synecdoches there have once again
Made strange proportions of your normal ken;
ANd if 'tis so, then we can only hope
That such a synecdoche should be a holotrope!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 05:39 PM

There was good quality stuff posted ahead of that number 5700, and I didn't even try to resist the urge to top that double-ought hill, but now it's time to move on. Clearly there are two schools of thought, and I represent the muddled thinking that exists in the interstice between those who just want to get those landmark numbers and those who see it as a silly waste of time. I resent it when people who aren't regular thread contributors jump in just to hit a target that they happen to see, even if it interrupts the ongoing conversation. But I take my turn like the rest of us in pushing the Mother to new heights. So I'm not really contradicting myself, I'm just confining my slightly compulsive number interest to the MOAB.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 03:49 PM

5700


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 03:48 PM

Simulacrum/Simulacra



The dictionary definitions that popped up online were wrong, or at least, incomplete. It is used to mean a similuation of reality that in the end is perceived as more real than the thing it was supposed to simulate. It's a very PoMo (PostModern) useful term.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 03:45 PM

Lacuna



Plural lacunae. From Latin lacuna, gap, pool, cavern. With reference to manuscripts, it means to be defective for a portion of the text (usually short). Notice that a lacuna always refers to a portion of a manuscript which has been lost (due to the disappearance of leaves or the effects of water or trimming or whatever); it should not be used to refer to a section of the text which never was found in a manuscript. The adjective lacunose may refer to a manuscript with many lacunae.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 03:40 PM

What can I say? It was in the invisible writing. I shuffled the deck of my small collection of interesting or useful big words (the 75 cent variety) and found those that I thought I could string together into a slightly coherent thought. Holotrope may not be as utilitarian as bricoleur (another one that Amos made much of), but it has its uses. One or two of these words in a scholarly essay, dovetailed precisely into the discussion, but always applied judiciously, can be just enough to take that grade over the top.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 02:44 PM

Give a man enough holotrope and he'll holot-hang himself.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 02:19 PM

See what I mean? I am still in the FI category because I still don't know what the hell your talking about. (Brain cells must be shrinking)

Let the learned be the lessons
Let trumpets fan their swans.
Let the glow moon the moon
Let the Moab sing the Amos tune.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 11:57 AM

A shapely lass called Rustic Rebel
Would tele-compute on the level;
She would sit in the night
Wearing only moonlight
Making cyber-dudes squeal in high treble!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 11:20 AM

And since I forgot to say so I think the presentation of Barf the Channeled Doggy Being was a brilliant Holotrope in its own right. However I am still searching for the universe of discourse that it s a holotrope for!! But I loved it for itself alone. If you can do that with a holotrope.



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 11:17 AM

A trope is a figure of speech designed to give vividness or reality to an idea.

A holograph (back-formed from holistic and -graph meaning image) is an image in three dimension; the peculiarities of the holograph include the odd trait that any bit of the medium (a laser-etched film, for example) contains all the data (in analog wave records) to re-generate the entire whole. Just the way that DNA from a cell of your toe has enough information to regenerate your whole body and brain.

A holotrope, a loosely defined term used by wild-eyed poetic types or over-heated mentalists in academic pursuit, is a single thought, expression, description, or figure of speech which seems to encapsulate or capture all the critical attributes of a whole region or subject of discourse.

Do I have that roughly right, there, SRS, user-of-holtrope? :D

A

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 11:05 AM

Holotrope!!HOLOTROPE???!   !Holy moly, Mother Machree!! There are only about twenty people in the world who know why there sghould even BE such a word. And half of them are lamebrained academics with no real sense of context. But I yam proud to have produced one, whatever it is!!:D


Clearly,SRS, your bark bark is worse than your bite bite.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 11:04 AM

Amos- Sorry, I was so harsh to you. I didn't mean to make you sniff.
Put me in that fucking idiot category too. Not just for making Amos sniff, but for not knowing what any of you people are talking about half the time. Example- I have no idea what a holotrope is!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 10:23 AM

Besides, that was more of a BillD aphorism, not a Rapaire heuristic moment, though I can agree with BWL about sticking with the gestalt of the thought and not slicing and dicing such a holotrope.

SRS, playing with the nice little stack of 3 x 5 cards with useful and highly applicable literary and philosophical terms that turned up from beneath the clutter when she cleaned her desk yesterday


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Amos
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 09:37 AM

Shucks...dang...yes ma'a'm!!OK!! All right, yas'm. Dang.

Sniff.

And here I thought I was doing so well, too!!

OK, I wasn't filling in for Rapaire, that was just a deflection.

But I yam glad you liked it.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 03:29 AM

Amos, get this and listen up. Rapaire is on vacation and Rapaire doesn't need anyone to fill in for him while he is on his vacation. You will be just fine without him. Trust me, I know.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 12:45 AM

Aww, SRS, shucks....I....dunno what to say!! I was just filling in for Rapaire!!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 18 Jan 05 - 12:36 AM

Well I, for one, found this to be as nicely turned bit of BS as I've read in a long time:

    their condition of relative grace (goddamned idiot) or gracefulness (clumsy idiot) of even abysmal moral failure (Godforsaken asshole Bush))


That juxtaposition of "relative grace" to "gracefulness" was something that one can only dream of achieving when putting together thoughts and looking for good connections and transitions along the way. This is as tidy an intellectual pivot as I've seen in ages. Good job, Amos! (I know, BWL talked about not dissecting it, but I'd already done so and copied the phrase by the time I read his remarks).

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 11:12 PM

No sir, the credit is all yours -- the insight was brilliant, I merely found a local application for it.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 09:46 PM

(sound of applause originating in northwest Florida aimed in the general direction of San Diego, CA)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 09:26 PM

think that was what Bush was heard to murmur when he was handed a copy of the United States Bill of Rights on his first admission to office.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 08:01 PM

Ah, yes! The truly great thing about being an idiot, about fully coming to terms with one's own idiocy, about admitting that one is, in fact, Tweed, is that when one reads a post like the previous one by Amos one does not feel compelled to dissect it and attempt to comprehend it. There's no need to say, "I know this makes sense! If only I were smart enough to understand it..." One can just say, "Hmmm... Must mean sumfin' t' smart people but, hey, I'm an idiot. Fuck it."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 07:34 PM

Glad to be of service, dear Tweed; however I wish to point out that SRS i smistaken in asserting that subsets of the genus "idiot" whether differentiated by their favorite activity (f***ing idiot), their condition of relative grace (goddamned idiot) or gracefulness (clumsy idiot) of even abysmal moral failure (Godforsaken asshole Bush)) were excluded from the logical proposition that if someone is an idiot, he is therefore Tweed.

ALL idiots are embraced by this proposition, which in fact may be a scientific breakthrough, identifying one thing held in common by all idiots. This may be a historic moment. Unfortunately those (like idiot Bush) who have had historectomies (forcible disassociation with any real sense of human history, caused by drugs, alcoholism, drunkenness, or inherent ignobility) will be unable to appreciate it, because they are idiots, and therefore Tweed. Nevertheless, historic is it.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 06:44 PM

(That one's for you, Rap!)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 06:42 PM

5-6-7-8


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 06:41 PM

and while I'm at it, and since he's away. . .


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 06:40 PM

Bark bark!

When's Rapaire returning? Has he heard his concert yet?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 06:40 PM

Now there's a cool name fer ya. "Ukriah". Heck, if I wuzn't already Tweed and khandu I'd change my name t' "Ukriah". Don't care much fer his las' name, though. "Flemboggle". Sounds sorta like sumthin' ya'd fin' on th' floor of a sickroom in a TB ward. Maybe sumthin' like "Ukriah Longensticker"...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 17 Jan 05 - 03:02 PM

Hello friends. I'd like to introduce you to Ukriah Flemboggish. Famous channeler of animal entities.
Mr. Flemboggish has graciously agreed to do a sitting for us at MOAB. I will be his assistant by writing what he says while he is in trance.
So, without further delay, please welcome Mr. Ukriah Flemboggish.

Ukriah: "Hello good folks at Mudcat Cafe. I am pleased to be here. Tonight I will communicate with the former pet of famous poet, writer, Suzette Flippmeover's Pom-Poo, Barf." Now if you will permit me....

Rustic:- Mr Flemboggish is now settling down to go into a state of trance. A zone unknown to most.

Ukriah now channeling Barf: " I am here. Barf. Thank you for hearing me and letting me tell my story to my former caregiver, Suzette how my life was with her.
First thing I want you to know, I didn't mind doing those stupid dog tricks, like that one you had me do where I had to be still with a piece of food on my nose, and wait patiently for you to tell me I could finally eat a tiny morsal of cheese, after waiting five fucking minutes! No that didn't bother me.

Ukriah/Barf: The few things that did bother me was when you rubbed my nose in my own piss. Now that was upsetting. I sat and watched you piss in the house and when I did it I got my nose rubbed in it and tossed outside.
It bothered me when you talked to me in that stupid child voice of yours. Come here beebee, oh you such a cute little beebee, ooch-e-choochie kind of crap. Even when I gained age over you Suzette, you continued this annoying baby talk. Where was the respect?
You continually thought you could tell me what to do. Remember all those times I ignored you? Those were the fun times how easy I could piss you off!
It also bothered me when you would refer to human men as dogs, and human women as bitches. Was that supposed to be an insult? What was the deal here Suzette? I have never once referred to my friends as humans. No respect.

Ukriah/Barf: One more thing. I loved it when you started feeding me that canned, soft dog food. That's when my teeth started going to hell and I lost most of them. Then you thought you were being good to me by feeding me a bone once in awhile, and I had no teeth left to chew them.
Now you know why I buried all my bones. No respect.
Suzette, it really is okay. I hold no grudges. You tried your best and I was devoted and loved you. Thanks for all those years of caring.
Signing out, Barf.

Rustic: Ukriah is coming out of his trance. He looks a little dazed but doing fine. "Ukriah, I'd like to thank you for being here tonight and letting us all in on this session. For all of us here at the MOAB and Mudcat, I say goodnight."


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