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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Jul 06 - 01:29 PM

This confirms my opinion of Utah drivers.

Dog Blamed for Hitting Woman With Truck
        
OGDEN, Utah (AP) -- A police dog that was left in a pickup with the engine running apparently knocked the vehicle into gear and ran down a woman who was walking to her mailbox.

Mary F. Stone, 41, was expected to remain hospitalized with a fractured pelvis and tailbone until at least Friday, said her husband, Paul Stone.

The dog, a German shepherd named Ranger, had been left in the truck while its handler responded to a domestic disturbance call Tuesday, police Lt. Loring Draper said. The truck's engine was on so Ranger would have air conditioning.

Draper said Ranger must have hit the shift on the steering column, putting the automatic transmission into gear. As the truck slowly rolled forward, police officers yelled to Stone, but she couldn't get out of the way in time, he said.

A front and rear tire ran over her. "She had tire marks on her clothes," her husband said.

The truck then went through the Stones' yard and struck a vehicle in the driveway.

Draper said police were trying to determine if there might have been some malfunction that would have allowed the gear shift to be moved easily.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 13 Jul 06 - 03:43 PM

Especially the four-legged ones? People who don't have opposable thumbs shouldn't be allowed to drive, is what I say....


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 13 Jul 06 - 03:49 PM

Whoooo! A little deja vu with that last entry. I read the very same story somewhere else just a little while ago and thought I stuck it in here by accident.

I will feel better in a minute. It's the reappearance of the spatulas that has made me light-headed.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 13 Jul 06 - 04:06 PM

spatulas can do that. which is why you are cautioned never to bring them out in mixed company.

did I mention the wedding reception I was at a couple weeks ago - they were given a lovely ceramic pot - and the bride and groom looked at each other and cried 'Spaula holder!"


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Jul 06 - 04:35 PM

Wasn't the Spatula a WW1 biplane fighter used by the Allies? I think I've heard references made to a "Spat". I think it was sort of like the French Nieuport or the German Albatross, only mounting twin 75mm cannon instead of Lewis guns. Again, if memory serves me correctly not many were built. I also seem to remember that the fighter ace Dempsey "Crash" Smutts flew one.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 13 Jul 06 - 05:19 PM

When your memory starts to go, forget it, Rapaire. That plane was not a "Spat", it was a "Spayed", and the pilot's name was "Spade Sam", who was so glamorized in the popular press in his days as a dogfighter that pets all over the nation were named after him.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Jul 06 - 05:34 PM

Pets were called "Sam"??

Okay, Mr. Smarty Pants, then how do you account for this, huh? It's the only surviving picture of a Spat (identified by the word "Women's" on the aircraft).


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 13 Jul 06 - 06:12 PM

We're agreed it's heavily armed though? If so, I'm borrowing it. A bunch of Italian teenagers with attitude are about a brief lesson that they are not the loudest thing going, and don't have to try......


BTW I found out what was wrong with the car the dog was driving. It was an automatic....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Jul 06 - 07:00 PM

Use this. Inaccurate, but quietly malfunctional.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 13 Jul 06 - 08:49 PM

NOW the cat is really out of the Schrodingerian bag:

"The theory has been around for more than 40 years, but only now has it been confirmed through direct and unambiguous experimental results. Working at the Advanced Light Source (ALS) of the U.S. Department of Energy's Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, a team of researchers has observed the theoretical prediction of electron "spin-charge separation" in a one-dimensional solid. These results hold implications for future developments in several key areas of advanced technology, including high-temperature superconductors, nanowires and spintronics.

Just as the body and wheels of a car are thought to be intrinsic parts of a whole, incapable of separate and independent actions, i.e., the body goes right while the wheels go left, so, too, are electrical charge and spin intrinsic components of an electron. Except, according to theory, in one-dimensional solids, where the collective excitation of a system of electrons can lead to the emergence of two new particles called "spinons" and "holons." A spinon carries information about an electron's spin and a holon carries information about its charge, and they do so as separate and independent entities. Numerous experiments have tried to confirm the creation of spinons and holons, referred to as spin-charge separation, but it took the technological advantages offered at ALS Beamline 7.0.1, also known as the Electronic Structure Factory (ESF), to achieve success.

In a paper published in the June 2006 issue of the journal Nature Physics, researchers have reported the observation of distinct spinon and holon spectral signals in one-dimensional samples of copper oxide, SrCuO2, using the technique known as ARPES, for angle-resolved photoemission spectroscopy. The research was led by Changyoung Kim, at Yonsei University, in Seoul, Korea, ALS scientist Eli Rotenberg, and Zhi-Xun Shen of Stanford University, a leading authority on the use of ARPES technology. Co-authoring the Nature-Physics paper with them were Bum Joon Kim and Hoon Koh, plus S.J. Oh, H. Eisaki, N. Motoyama, S. Uchida, T. Tohyama, and S. Maekawa.

"There have been claims of observing the two peak spectral structures of spin-charge separation in the past, but they turned out to be wrong or have plenty of ambiguity. This was primarily because those results were obtained from complicated materials and were not theoretically backed up," said Kim, who has spent several years investigating the spin-charge separation phenomenon. "Our observations using ARPES are direct and the results are unambiguous because they were obtained from a simple material that left little room for misinterpretation. Also, our results are theoretically backed up."

Said Shen, "Our results confirming the idea of spin-charge separation are important because they reveal deep insights into the quantum system - and the beauty and subtleties associated with it. From this study we know more about how the collective behavior of a system of particles can be so fundamentally different from that of the constituent individuals."

The idea behind spin-charge separation is that electrons behave differently when their range of motion is restricted to a single dimension, as opposed to three or even two dimensions. When moving through one dimension, for example, the electrons are lined up head-to-tail, making the repulsive force between their negative electrical charges overridingly dominant. The restricted movement of electrons through one-dimensional material was expected to give rise to collective effects that would be strong enough to break the information flow of spin and charge from a single electron. "



Kinda makes it hadron the rest state of us, doesn't it?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Jul 06 - 10:04 PM

Ever see Gluon chase her/his tail? That duckdob's known all about spinons and holons all along.

I'd like to know what dimension the one-dimensional solid has, as I think that such knowledge is critical to understanding the experiment. Was it length? Width? Height? Time? And if there was mass how was that related to the monodimensionality of the SrCuO2?

Inquiring minds need to know these things.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Jul 06 - 10:21 PM

That's "duckdog", not "duckdob." A duckdob is Something Else Entirely and is hardly somethign to discuss in polite company.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Jul 06 - 10:23 PM

"SomethiNG", not "somethign". Somethign is a small town, unkempt and yet somehow squalid, a few miles north of Corn Creek.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 13 Jul 06 - 11:35 PM

We understand, it has been a rough week.

Pity the poor civilian who tries a Google search today on "astronaut spatula" or on "spin-charge separation" and lands at Mudcat instead of the normal news sites. Finding our long drawn out discussions is liable to both confuse and inspire. Not necessarily at the same time or in the same folks.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 12:40 AM

A was going to write a flowery pentametric sonnet concerning Rapaire's duckdob and it's relationship to the boson's hadron.

But my heart wasna in it.

I think Stilly has made a wise observation, also.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 09:14 AM

Isn't a boson a ship's officer or something? I thing s/he has her/his own chair as well as his/her own whistle. And didn't hadron build that wall in Britain that seperated it from Scotland or someplace? (I only ask these things because I'm an aware person.)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 09:17 AM

And it was Brent Spinon that played Data on Star Trek TNG.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 09:33 AM

I thought a spinon was a type of piano.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 09:39 AM

yes, along with the clavicle and the herpologist


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 09:42 AM

A boson is a particle,
A sort of tiny article
But a boatswain may be what you're thinking
Of (unless you have been drinking).
Not an officer, wears no hat,
Much too competent for that!
Bosn's know the ins and outs
Of evey line and rope about
And where's the lead, and where's the brush
And red-lead needed in a rush
And how to parcel, serve and splice,
ANd other talents not so nice.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 11:22 AM

Isn't he Spiner?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 11:25 AM

Are any of you aware of the newly discovered "fat" particle, the shatnor? It's one dimensional, has an interesting spin, covers its "up" with a cloud of quarks, and sometimes goes out of phase.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 11:30 AM

stilly dear - have some coffee. using his REAL name woudln't have worked....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 11:39 AM

Tea. Cuppa tea. I've been trying to cut back on the caffiene. I have a little headache. I'll be back later (the cat wants me to go take a nap with him--maybe I'll take up that invitation, and it sounds much more restful than sleeping with Gluon on the bed).


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 01:39 PM

If you look to see whether Gluon is on the bed or not, you will be disappointed by the unreliability of the observation. Once you observe him, he immediately looks just like a cat.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 06:03 PM

I'm off to here for a week, bashing rocks and such like. Maybe even learning stuff too.

This is the other side of hadons wall, so I will be out of phase with Moab for some time, and if I attempt to make any posts, Gluon will eat them....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 06:29 PM

You're going to visit a 404 error?? Let me know how it is...I've been curious.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 06:33 PM

Try this one, Rapaire.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 07:01 PM

I didn't know that Durham Cathedral was the home of 404 errors. Is it some old curse or something?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 08:22 PM

You, sir, are obdurate, incorrigible, wilfiul, unfeeling, intractable, adamant, stiff-necked, bullheaded, dogged, obstinate and hard-boiled, hard-hearted, hard-nosed, harsh, immovable, implacable, indurate, mean, perverse, relentless, rigid, thick-skinned, unbending, uncooperative, unrelenting,inflexible, iron-skulled, unsympathetic, callous and mulish.

But I like you.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 09:39 PM

...stiff-necked...

Well yeah, I've been that way for about a week. But I went to the doctor today and she manipulated my neck and prescribed a muscle relaxant for me to take at bedtime. Hopefully I won't be stiff-necked much longer.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 11:05 PM

I see right through you, good sir. You're practicing up, aren't you? To go into Politics? As a Republican?


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 11:29 PM

No, to keep from looking up when they start tearing the roof off the Library on Tuesday.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 11:47 PM

Your deflective skills are in top form. Good luck!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Jul 06 - 09:52 AM

Whoops...must overr-deflected and had to circumnavigate a couple of circumlocutory circumbendibuses.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 15 Jul 06 - 10:43 AM

What are your plans in lieu of having a roof on the library, Rap? Will you provide pool chairs and lounges and charge people fees to come in and get tan?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Jul 06 - 12:04 PM

A library without a roof
Is good -- it brings perspective
Enjoins the seekers after truth
From haughty, cold directives
And stays them from pretence, aloof
And condescending,

To walk among the whispers there
Of ages wise and good, while overhead
The local star goes by, and summer air
Reminds the scholars, looking up in dread
From curls of complex, mental snares
Into whose coils they have been led,
That life does not happily bless
The unbending.

And if, immersed in tides of facts
And paradox and half-moved arrows,
The scholar, rumbling in his tracks
Should be distracted by some sparrow
Or a humming bird's sudden attack
And finds the world had grown less narrow
And fields, more than fences, could use
Some mending.

This would not be a bad thing, in truth
I think I'd like to study there--
A hall of books without a roof,
Where dew can fall on students hair
Where stars can visit in the listening booths,
And winds can turn the leaves in pairs
And send the index cards awry, in a dance
Unending.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 15 Jul 06 - 04:47 PM

Index cards? What century is your library in, Amos? The only index cards I've seen recently are for the tons of federal documents that aren't cataloged in the computer system in our library. That catalog is a novelty, a conversation piece.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Jul 06 - 09:12 PM

Oh no! We still use catalog cards and still maintain the card catalog. In fact, we use both a computer catalog AND a card catalog. And the catalog cards are written in the "library hand" using crow-quill pens and that good ink that doesn't fade or go brown. Technical Services insists on doing this, and they have a 55-gallon drum of ink in the back that's never been tapped along with several hundred pounds of new catalog cards. Out here in Idaho, a very "red" state, we don't hold with all them new, unproven, things like typewrites and stuff. We wouldn't have the IBM-PCs we have if the State Library hadn't bought 'em for us. And a danged good thing they bought us all them 5.25 inch floppy disks at the same time, too, 'cause there's only a couple stores around here that sell 'em anymore.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Jul 06 - 11:58 PM

Jaysus, ya fling pearls an' all ya get back is complaints about yer aim...sheesh.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 16 Jul 06 - 10:12 AM

It was a gem, Amos. Worthy of appropriation for that other thread about poetry.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jul 06 - 10:38 AM

In fact, with proper attribution, I'd like to post it at the Library and share it on the Idaho library listserve. Okay with you, Amos?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 16 Jul 06 - 10:57 AM

Amos will be famous!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jul 06 - 11:35 AM

Seated at the oaken table, in the hall without a roof,
Eyes ensanguined from perusing tomes of eldrich, arcane lore
Comes the slowly, soft unfolding from the pigeons overhead
All you know and need e'er know, wisdom's straight unvarnished truth,
Splattered o'er your chairs and parchments,
The meaning of the Raven's "Nevermore."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Jul 06 - 12:03 PM

Feel free, Mike. What the hey.

If you do, fix the punctuation for me, would ya?

...condescending.

...some mending.

Ta.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 16 Jul 06 - 05:36 PM

Mom, you're looking a little toasty here in the middle of the page. Come on over under the shade and have a glass of freshly made iced tea. Here's the chair I always move around to the shady spot, right next to the wading pool. Don't worry about the dogs, they'll just drool on your lap a little before they lie down again. And Cinnamon will probably take a dip (it's her pool). You can dangle your feet in it if you want, we clean it every couple of days.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jul 06 - 05:55 PM

97F. Humidity's 11%. I've finished the grass, unloaded the bags of topsoil, and have blown the porch and patio clean of grass, etc. Now just laundry and picking up and putting away and...Pat comes back on Tuesday evening.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 12:01 AM

...and it will make for super brownie points with her if everything is shipshape and put away, I expect!! :D

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 08:30 AM

11% humidity? you lucky lucky person. I feel like I've been breathing water the last two days. 95 degrees and something like 97% humidity.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 09:01 AM

The humidity isn't to be scoffed at. Up on the bench at the Legion Hovel there was a terrible tragedy. Saturday afternoon was the annual "All You Can Drink Beer Festival And Potato Bake-Off." The Bake-Off was cancelled due to the heat (as it is every year), but the beer drinking was carried off in its usual superb form.

Unfortunately, the humidity at Hovel was -12.4%, it being higher up than the weather station on the valley floor. The moisture was sucked right out of the beer as soon as it left the keg, leaving nought but a slushy compound of beer residue in your cup, stein, flagon or barrel. When this was consumed, as it was of course, it sucked the moisture out of the surrounding tissues. Downing one of them left a human raisin, two of them left a freeze-dried body, and three of them left a pile of dust to be swept away by the hot sirroco wind.

We lost Slim Chance, Geralo Fats, River Silt, Half-Gun Sam, and Short Rope to the wind. They're now somewhere out on the Snake River Plain, pushing up potatoes. The others were taken to American Falls Reservoir and dunked repeatedly until they were back to their abnormal selves. Then they were taken to the Drunk Tank in the Hovel to sober up; it was the first use of the DT since the pink elephants and blue snakes that decorate the walls were refreshed.


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