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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

Little Hawk 10 Jun 09 - 07:02 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 07:02 PM

Come on, man...you're not giving Don Cherry a real chance. Please, please watch one or two or even three of his loudmouthed monologues on YouTube before you rush to judgement!

Do it NOW.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 04:09 PM

Okay, I read the Wikipedia article on Don Cherry and I have this to say:

Oh fer God's sake, Little Hawk! A fuckin' television HOCKEY commentator, and I'm supposed to be impressed? Considering that (A) I don't watch television, (B) I hate sports, and (C) I hate hockey more than most sports, why in the name of Christ on a cracker would I entertain any positive thoughts toward a TV hockey guy, particularly one whose politics and overall style seem to be diametrically opposed to my own? There's absolutely NOTHING about the guy that would endear him to me in any way! Hell, he doesn't even have a REAL beard, just one of those half-inch goatees! Phooey!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 03:28 PM

Please, Rapaire!! At least report with respect for verisimilitude.

What Kotschick actually SAID was the they had prove that a rational linear combination of Chern numbers is an oriented diffeomorphism invariant of smooth complex projective varieties if and only if it is a linear combination of the Euler and Pontryagin numbers.

In dimension at least three, they further proved that only multiples of the top Chern number, which is the Euler characteristic, are invariant under diffeomorphisms that are not necessarily orientation-preserving. These results solve a long-standing problem of Hirzebruch's. He also claimed to determine the linear combinations of Chern numbers that can be bounded in terms of Betti numbers. This remains to be demonstrated.

(A diffeomorphism is an isomorphism of smooth manifolds. It is an invertible function that maps one differentiable manifold to another, such that both the function and its inverse are smooth.)

(Chern classes are characteristic classes. They are topological invariants associated to vector bundles on a smooth manifold. If you describe the same vector bundle on a manifold in two different ways, the Chern classes will be the same. When are two ostensibly different vector bundles the same? When are they different? These questions can be quite hard to answer. But the Chern classes provide a simple test: if the Chern classes of a pair of vector bundles do not agree, then the vector bundles are different. (The converse is not true, though.))

(The Betti number of a topological space is, in intuitive terms, a way of counting the maximum number of cuts that can be made without dividing the space into two pieces. This defines, in fact, what is called the first Betti number. the Euler characteristic (or Euler-Poincaré characteristic) is a topological invariant, a number that describes a topological space's shape or structure regardless of the way it is bent. The Pontryagin class lies in cohomology groups with index a multiple of four. It applies to real vector bundles.)


See, I thoughtfully provided informal definitions to make the whole matter clearer...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 02:50 PM

Wow! A guy in Germany has just demonstrated that, except for the obvious ones, Chern numbers are topologically invariant.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 02:41 PM

See? I've been trained to Recognize Things.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 02:11 PM

That's Don's Bipedal Canine.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 02:07 PM

Who is the man in the plaid jacket in the picture with Don Cherry?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 01:57 PM

I have a better dog picture than that. I'll have to post it, you'll see.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 01:51 PM

You're missed out, Bee-dub! Don Cherry is extraordinary. He must be seen (and heard) to be believed. His fashion sense is unforgettable. Look him up on Wickipdia for the full story.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 01:48 PM

I have no idea who Don Cherry is. But, judging from that photo, I can see why Little Hawk would hold him in high esteem. He does appear to have a certain Shatneresque air about him.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 01:33 PM

Yes, of course it's Don Cherry. That's who I was talking about.

Isn't he great? ;-) If only he would get elected prime minister! If only. That would set things right around here.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 01:13 PM

Isn't that Don Cherry? And why does he have his feet on the fence or whatever it is?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 01:05 PM

Yeah, I did, Amos. But now I want to wear really loud sports jackets, flash the "thumbs-up" sign, and shoot my mouth off on Hockey Night in Canada 3 times a week....plus make a fortune autographing pictures of me and my dog "Blue"....

Don and Blue


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 01:04 PM

I think Henry James would say they should have tuned to a different channel. Some people don't know how many channels the imagination can receive when allowed to run free through the memesphere. Some spend their whole day surfing through three channels only. Others live their lives tuned to only one. Others fritter their days away jumping back and forth among over 100 channels, including high-def, 3D, technicolor, ultraviolet, 6-D, x-ray vision, the Spook channel, NDE, OOBE, and transcendental proliferation.



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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 12:22 PM

I know a few people who've attempted to satisfy the requirements of their imaginations. They're not rich. They're in jail.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 12:18 PM

LH:

WHat, you wanted to be suddenly raised to riches and nobility by a long-lost relative? ;>)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 10:48 AM

"I call that man rich who can satisfy the requirements of his imagination." Henry James

Ah, the proFUNDity!!!




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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 09:42 AM

He had this "thing" for chickens and little green lizards, you know.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 02:44 AM

Little Lord Fauntleroy was my chosen role model at one time when I was young and callow. Then I saw Don Cherry one day on Coach's Corner and I never looked back... ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 02:04 AM

Well, now I have finished Lord Fauntleroy, and I am sorry to have done. If I were not finished with it, I would still have the pleasure of reading it some more, you see, but now I don't   But that is all right. I shall have another book to read tomorrow.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 11:12 PM

Mom:

Thanks to my iPhone I have recently had the unanticipated delight of reading all of:

Crome Yellow
Call of the Wild
Candide
Daisy Miller
Flatland
The Hound of the Baskervilles
The Jungle Book
Maggie, A Girl of the Streets
Miss Lulu Bett
Siddhartha
The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
and I have many more such delights ahead, having just embarked on the remarkable tale of Little Lord Fauntleroy.

I tell ya, Mom, they do not make them like they useter!!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 10:43 PM

Jeez!


Now, wonderful sirs, go put your creativity to work at some worthy endeavor!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 05:06 PM

It is clear to me, Sir Hack, that you have never done much meditation of the sort taught by the Temple. Therefore you know not of those things of which we speak, and are, therefore, below the curve, around the bend, and severely missing the point. I see dark hues in your spiritual aureola, from which I conclude that you do NOT suck...much, anyway.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 05:03 PM

Only after probate.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 04:56 PM

Can I be a deceiving dissolute disapprobate?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 04:48 PM

Let's hear it for disapprobation
It's better than censure or condemnation,
It trumps reproof or accusation
Or disapproval or damnation
It's sure to be the next sensation
You just can't beat disapprobation


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 04:10 PM

LH! Bite your tongue!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 04:07 PM

People who attend that particular temple are lower than a fat dachshund's belly after he's eaten an entire rump roast. They are vile scum, worthy of extreme disapprobation.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 04:01 PM

Yes, and more to be envied than censored.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 04:00 PM

I'll bet confession at the Temple of the Golden Globes is more to be censored then pitied.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 03:58 PM

You, sir, have a tin ear and a blind eye, a limp dick, a sharp tongue, and an oversized nose.



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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 03:57 PM

You, sir, are a self-indulgent prat. It is not legitimate to grab the 29,600th post by posting 5 times in a row! Go at once to the confessional booth and beg forgiveness.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 03:54 PM

Until they reached six hundred!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 03:54 PM

By singing softly,
Each to each...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 03:53 PM

Improve their lives?
Restore their peace?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 03:53 PM

How did the hive of gentle bees,
When past them, stallions thundred...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 03:52 PM

I am honored by your remarks, sir, at least until you find some way to retract them. In the meanwhile, I have to say that although I had a vivid picture of the heroine in my mind when composing the ditty, the picture did not include any patronyms. I am sure she resisted goosiness wherever it was offered.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 03:11 PM

I'm doing research on the most touching song I've ever read. It beats "The Empty Chair" and "the Drunkard's Child" and "The Drunkard's Son" and "The Drunken Maidens" and "Take My Bridgework Back To Mother" all hollow.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 01:30 PM

There are no morels where I live. It is an amorel society.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 12:41 PM

You're trying to make pate de fois gras out of my doggerel with your gooserel, sirrah!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 12:28 PM

I've just checked, and her father's name was Brucey and her mother was Ruthie.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 12:17 PM

Was Lucy's last name Goosey?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 12:03 PM

That was very good! I saw MOM chuckling into her sleeve when you read it out loud for her.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 11:44 AM

MOM!

A-man's trying to be punny again!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 10:36 AM

Poor Lucy's father died one night
From a stroke at forty-three;
WIth complications caused by drink
And perhaps an S.T.D.
Her mother, she could not recall.
She went to Heaven, see,
When Daddy worked at a banking job,
And Lucy was but three.

And Daddy could not handle it.
The loss destroyed his heart.
The life he'd built had suddenly lost
Its one most precious part.
And so he drank, and drank again
And lost a job or three.
And Lucy wondered at his grave,
"What will become of me?"

A lovely lass of seventeen
And full of love and hope,
She quickly spent her savings bank
And found she could not cope.
She'd used a small inheritance
To pay her Daddy's bills.
And now she starved, no roof or food,
Beset with woes and ills.

She would not turn to the dirty streets,
She had her pride, at least,
And many's the offer she turned down
From a monied, hungry beast.
She held her morels dear and close,
While in this living hell.
And finally found her pathway out:
She became a chanterelle.

And now she tours in a velvet car,
And sings before the Crown,
And many a suitor, rich and kind,
She regretfully turns down.
Oh, there's many a song-bird on the wing,
From the Liffey to the Don,
But of them all, no man denies,
Our Lucy's champignon.

Aloyisius Allcott Winslow Lodge
Morels in Modern Thyme
Cordon Bleu Press, Le Vesinet, 1892


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 09:03 AM

Rapaire's culinary criteria have cratered, it appears.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 08:53 AM

Wot is this? Does no one else CARE? Poor Mom. Here, have a good slug of grain alcohol and some sardines (they're in mustard sauce, like you like them) and some of these extra-dill pickles. And look! -- here's a nice doughnut that only a couple days old!

Bon appetite!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 09:47 PM

I hope he took enough gun. An enraged and wounded mushroom is a fearsome thing, God wot.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 09:28 PM

Friend of mine used to complain that the idiots who went into her cow pastures for "silly-cibin" mushrooms rarely closed the gate behind them. That's why she objected to their gathering them--the cows had to be rounded up a couple of times a week otherwise.

I wonder how Bobert's mushroom hunting went?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 09:27 PM

A thoughtful conscious being should be able to provide his own morels based on his inherent sense of right, truth, justice, and the Good. Chanterels, though, can only be found by hanging around outside music halls.


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