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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: number 6
Date: 09 May 06 - 10:56 PM

There was a movie made on it??

How could they fit that inot 2 or so hours ... unless of course it was made by Bernardo Bertoluuci.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 May 06 - 10:54 PM

*%&$^$&!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 May 06 - 10:54 PM

No -- I've read the book, but never acted out th e movie.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: number 6
Date: 09 May 06 - 10:48 PM

Anyone ever play the Glass Bead Game?

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 May 06 - 10:29 PM

Mind games, yes. If you want to look at it that way. What I mean is, I do not enjoy the traditional "games of chance" and do not play them for money.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 May 06 - 10:17 PM

ALl games, in my book -- some more inspiring than others. I expect we have different definitions. Any goal accompanied by rules, wins, loses and usually opponents or competitors qualifies. A well played begging game is fun for a short while. Pr9oblem is you get kinda stuck in to some of these games and they grow deadly serious. That doesn't change the rules, it just makes them harder to play.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 May 06 - 08:47 PM

Not true. You can work for money. You can beg. You can borrow. You can steal. You can even inherit.

I can't stomach playing games for money because:

1. I would expect to lose from the start.
2. I couldn't forgive myself for being so stupid if I did lose.
3. I'd be so nervous that it wouldn't be any fun, and I'd play badly.
4. Which means, I would almost surely lose.

Perhaps I was a gambler in a past life, lost everything, and that accounts for my utter disinclination toward it now.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 May 06 - 08:32 PM

Little Hawk:

I don't believe you. Playing games for money is the only way to get some.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 09 May 06 - 08:21 PM

I don't believe that I have ever played Crazy Eights OR Old Maid for money. I play it with small children who laugh and learn about taking their turns and being good sports whether they win or lose.

Now our version of Scrabble is a rather demented affair. It involves rude words, sly innuendo, and money included. I invented it for my children (and they love it!)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 May 06 - 07:42 PM

Actually, Amos, I am simply unwilling to play games for money. Always have been. So I will never experience that particular thrill, I guess.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 09 May 06 - 07:40 PM

Severn of Clubs, squared!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 May 06 - 07:28 PM

No, I think card games are what you do when you've reached that final point of emptiness where there is nothing else left to do but blow your brains out.

This being a post of very significant number, I have to mention that Shatner still rules, by the way.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 May 06 - 07:25 PM

You've never won a high-stakes hand on a bluff, I reckon. It could be addictive. Fortunately my genes are stacked agin it, so it onlyhappened once.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 May 06 - 07:21 PM

I don't enjoy card games much.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 09 May 06 - 07:12 PM

While you're at it, teach Little Hawk something other that Crazy Eights and Old Maid.

If you read about Ms. Barrett you'll see that she has made a lifetime career of playing computer voices. I really enjoyed her as Troi's mother in Next Generation. She was really over the top in that role. . . and in many other positions, if I recall. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 May 06 - 04:52 PM

Rapaire:

Some day I will come to Idaho and teach you basic poker, so you won't be stuck with "Go, Fish!" and Slapjack anymore.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 May 06 - 04:25 PM

"...flush BS...."

Amos! One does NOT "flush BS"!! Apologize to Mom immediately!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 09 May 06 - 04:24 PM

Sure, we can handle the shat-man, as long as the gag reflex doesn't kick in.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 May 06 - 04:21 PM

With the experience this thread has had with extraterrestial creatures -- freds, Ralphs, martians and others -- dealing with William Shatner is no problem.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 May 06 - 04:04 PM

I want to thank everyone for the insightful and cogent comments on Star Trek. I think there may be hope yet for the MOABS.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 May 06 - 03:31 PM

Another 10-spot for Rapaire, the Idaho Gambler, and te reckless bids keep coming. Who's bluffing? Who's got the high hand? Who has straight flush BS with royal tops? Who's just staring down the opposition, sitting on an explosive, ruinous "fold" and claiming four of a kind in the BS stakes?

You got to know when to copy,
When to act sloppy,
Know when to shovel crap,
An' when to bite your tongue
And you never count your postings
When your still composing BS,
There'll be lots of time for counting posts
When the BS is all done


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 May 06 - 01:27 PM

By jingoes, sometimes I impress myself with my self-restraint!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 May 06 - 01:21 PM

Please notice that I have not posted to Mom yet today.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 May 06 - 01:09 PM

Probably -- it would take a woman to play the part. The reasons for this assertion are left as an exercise for the student of all things Internet.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 09 May 06 - 11:22 AM

wasn't she also the computer?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 09 May 06 - 11:21 AM

Poor Nurse Chappel, always pining for Spock. (The actress Majel Barrett was also Gene Roddenberry's wife)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 May 06 - 11:59 PM

Well, Rustic, I guess that's what happens when you have a one-track mind...heh! ;-D


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 08 May 06 - 11:56 PM

Hawk- the only thing I picked up from your Shatner posts was-"fuck around". Everything else slipped, slid, and cherry jelloed by, after you started talking sex.

I slid by the jello'y slated road of cherry infested tar, just to end up turning around in a lime pit of shat.......


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 May 06 - 11:38 PM

That was in the Star Trek episode entitled "The Sporran Doesn't Tilt Here Anymore." In it, Scotty sang that great ballad:

Oh, the sporran doesn't tilt here anymore.
No, the sporran doesn't tilt here anymore.
Uhura didn't let it phaser
And Scotty just got grazed, sir...
And the sporran doesn't tilt here anymore. YEE-HA!!


I just remember the bit above, but someone out there probably knows all of it. It's supposed to be a wonderful old Scots ballad from the West of Scotland. I do remember Spock playing the bagpipes, Chekhov on the lute, and Kirk on mouth harp.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 May 06 - 09:28 PM

Good thing. I suspect her aim was deadly. I always wondered if Kirk and Uhura had something going on the side. If so, they were very discreet about it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 May 06 - 09:14 PM

Scotty originally wore kilts, but stopped after Uhura said that she liked neither the gleam in his eye nor the tilt of his kilt. Then she set her phaser on "emasculate" and from then own Scotty paid attention to his engines.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 May 06 - 08:16 PM

Yes, we always had Spock for that, and Spock was a huge cultural icon back then, just huge. A lot of women found him sexy, because he was clearly "the unattainable". This made him super-desirable. Could they and only they break through his coldly logical reserve????? Shatner, on the other hand, was eminently obtainable, and made no bones about showing it at every possible opportunity. (That last remark was not a dig at De Forrest Kelly, but it could have been.) Only a woman who was totally desperate could fall for Kelly, in my opinion. Then there was Scotty, everyone's bad cliche of a Scot. Interesting bunch of stereotypes there. Uhura was the first black woman to hold a notable position of responsibility in a TV drama series. Another point in favor of Star Trek as an innovative show.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 08 May 06 - 06:52 PM

Don't forget the judicious application of logic (the sixties codeword for "critical thinking.")


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 May 06 - 05:54 PM

Yes, those were the days. And any problem could be solved with a quick fist, a dropkick, a phaser blast, or a handy intergalactic liplock!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 May 06 - 05:52 PM

Good warp-speed engines and a good engineer will take you a very long way, so I'm not surprised that he got as far as he did.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 08 May 06 - 05:51 PM

The time in which I envy him, Sir Rapaire, is the time of boldly going, when the Enterprise was the veritable Coupe de Ville of star-ships, equal to any challenge and perfect in every subroutine.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 May 06 - 04:51 PM

Yes, well, I suspected that, Amos. ;-) Who wouldn't envy the man for that? I would have loved to get the chance to be Jean-Luc's predecessor on the bridge of the Enterprise, get to fight Gorn lizard men, dropkick Klingons, kiss Romulan beauties, you BET! It was a job to die for! Shatner is one lucky son of a bitch, I'll tell you that, but you know he had to have a lot of confidence and initiative or he never would have got that far.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 May 06 - 04:43 PM

So you'd want to pilot an old, used starship, huh? Not one of the bright shiny new ones, but a rusty old bucket of dilithium crystals and crapola rivets. Sheesh, some people!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 08 May 06 - 03:47 PM

If I were not a gentleman, LH, in spite of my earlier firm remarks, I would ask you to expand on what we "all know" as regards Shatner's comedic values.

The real reason I get so snarky about Shatner is I envy him his public success. I would have loved to be Jean Luc Picard's predecessor on the bridge of the Enterprise. Wouldn't you have? Honestly? LOL!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 May 06 - 02:52 PM

You're breaking my heart, Jerry. ;-)

By the way, I've never forgiven you for the movie scene where you're baking cookies, and you keep picking your nose in between sticking the same finger in the cookies before putting them in the oven.

I would have picked Gordon Lightfoot, Amos, but I don't think he works nearly as well in the comedic sense as either Neil Young or William Shatner. Neil, because of his voice and general weirdness. Shatner, because...well, we all know, right?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 08 May 06 - 01:22 PM

Now, Jerry....they are ALL your children...


Even Rapaire and BWL.

Maybe we should start a special Telethon for Jerry's Kids addicted to folk forums and BS.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Jerry Lewis
Date: 08 May 06 - 12:59 PM

Just for that, I don't give a damn about Little Hawk.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 08 May 06 - 12:47 PM

Then I shall be thankful for small blessings, but I wish you had chosen Gordon Lightfoot.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 May 06 - 12:11 PM

You just don't happen to like Shatner, Amos, and that is all there is to it. Nothing more to it whatsoever. I like both Chongo and Shatner. I like all the characters I have fun with on this forum, which is why I bother to have fun with them.

I genuinely like Star Trek and all its weird history and offbeat character actors (of which I'd say De Forest Kelly "Bones" was definitely the oddest), and I genuinely like William Shatner and find him to be quite the entertainer in his own peculiar way.

I bought his book "Get A Life" just for a lark, and to my surprise found it to be a simply great read. There's more to Mr Shatner than just a toupee and a big gut.

You think I just pulled Shatner out of a hat one day and thought, "Hey, here's something I can pester the Mudcat Forum with..."? Well, it didn't happen that way, as I have explained in my previous post. I've been interested in him for a very long time.

If I had chosen Jerry Lewis to torture the forum with...THAT would have been capricious and meaningless. I don't give a damn about Jerry Lewis.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 08 May 06 - 09:46 AM

Little Hawk:

Well of course he means something.

The question is what.

Anyway, if he is important to you, go for it. It doesn't strike me as genuine. Now, Chongo, HE's genuine. Much realer than Shatner.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 May 06 - 09:03 AM

Either you children be good or I'll stop thinking about you and you'll all disappear. I mean it! Now go to the table and sit there staring at each other without making a sound!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 08 May 06 - 08:55 AM

Hi Mom! I'm home! What's all this shat hanging around?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 May 06 - 01:22 AM

That's not entirely fair, Amos. Shatner does have meaning for me, although he clearly does not for you, and some of it is quite positive meaning.. I did NOT simply pick him at random when I decided to see if I could launch a Mudcat icon just for the hell of it...(having noticed the bizarre fooferaw that endlessly swirled around Cletus, Paw, the Reg Boys, Cleigh O'Possum, the Little Pissant, and the NYCFTTS...all created by one Mudcatter, you will note). I picked him because Star Trek and its various characters have always interested me, and are interesting in their own right as a major cultural phenomenon ever since the show first appeard in the late 60's. I've been into the whole thing for a long time, basically since about '69.

Although the acting in the original series was, in retrospect, corny at times (and not at other times), the groundbreaking scripts that Gene Rodenberry came up with were absolutely revolutionary in their philosophical implications. They were a complete different take on the idea of society from our money-driven, disunited, dog-eat-dog culture. They were a breath of fresh air, in fact.

You think I am just fucking around with Shatner for no other reason than to fuck around. That is not correct. I am sometimes doing that, but definitely not all the time.

Now the icons that Spaw created were, in my opinion, with the exception of Neil Young and the NYCFTTS, far more arbitrary and capricious than Mr Shatner. Mr Shatner is real, he's an entertainment personality, as is Neil Young, and like Neil Young he's a character distinctive enough...and odd enough, you might say...that one can spin endless jokes, yarns, and stories using him as the foil. Exactly the same thing in both cases.

He has also done musical recordings (although he can't sing)...and that makes him more appropriate to make jokes about on this forum than if he had not done that.

I see little or no difference in my selecting Shatner or Spaw selecting Neil Young to make ridiculous stories about. If there is a difference, you tell me what it is.

Spaw's other inventions were essentially frivolous, just for fun, and that's fine. That's what I did with Chongo Chimp, for instance, and several other fictional characters.

You go on and on about Shatner as though I were violating some kind of rule of order here by daring to use a Canadian actor whom some would accuse of overacting for humorous purposes on this holy forum.

Well, get stuffed. I think you are taking your own personal taste on the matter a bit too seriously. I find the NYCFTTS and the Neil Young stuff damn funny. I find Shatner damn funny too. So do a number of other people. If you don't, fine, but you are not in a position to dictate what is and is not funny on this forum for all the other people.

I have been joking about Shatner for the last 35 years, Amos! Long before I ever knew about Mudcat. I find Shatner and Star Trek both interesting, enjoyable, and sometimes very funny. So do a hell of a lot of other people, and he IS Canadian too, and that matters to Canadians. We are proud of our few actors and actresses who have made a name for themselves in the big USA.

My selection of Shatner for humour on Mudcat was NOT a mere arbitrary throw of the icon dart at the forum board, it was not a meaningless non-sequitor to me, it was something I've always found amusing. It was inevitable that I would choose at some point to tell Shatner jokes on Mudcat, and he is the least arbitrary and meaningless character I have ever chosen to play around with on this forum.

Man, he may mean diddly-squat to you, but he means something to me and Star Trek means something to me. And you don't get that, do you? What I find fascinating about that show was that it could be that good in some ways and that bad at times too...all on the same show. It was most unusual. Shatner, likewise, is unusual, because although one can make fun of his acting, his non-singing, and all the rest, he was absolutely perfect for that show, and he's done some other pretty neat stuff here and there.

Neither he nor Star Trek are to be simply dismissed as valueless, unless you are simply too prejudiced to bother giving them a fair look in the first place.

I do not accept your view of my use of Shatner on this forum, Amos. If someone else who was a longtime and beloved member of the original founding few who launched this forum or were there in the very early days had introduced Shatner...or someone else like him...in exactly the same way and for the same purposes, I think that you would think it was a great idea and you would think it was funny. Just like Neil Young and the NYCFTTS. Same deal.

By the way, there's another one: James Taylor and the James Taylor Institute for Catatonic Blandness or something like that. Spaw launched that one too, but it remained one that only showed up occasionally. Again, same basic idea. Spaw does not have a monopoly here on using popular entertainment figures as the foil for a running joke, Amos...or does he? If so, please show me his license, okay?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Peace
Date: 08 May 06 - 12:26 AM

Yes.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: number 6
Date: 08 May 06 - 12:24 AM

FleetwoodMac where a pretty good blues/rock band in the 60's before they moved to L.A. from England and took on Nicks and Buckingham as members. They had a gutiarists by the name of Peter Green who is a legend in his own way .. I have the album An English Rose from that period which contains such tracks as Albatross and Black Magic Woman ... yes, it is originally by them and quite good, better than Sanata's version (my opinion anyway).

sIx


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