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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

Little Hawk 11 Sep 09 - 11:10 AM
Amos 11 Sep 09 - 11:49 AM
Bee-dubya-ell 11 Sep 09 - 11:52 AM
Amos 11 Sep 09 - 12:40 PM
Rapparee 11 Sep 09 - 01:23 PM
Amos 11 Sep 09 - 02:13 PM
Little Hawk 11 Sep 09 - 02:28 PM
Amos 11 Sep 09 - 02:31 PM
Rapparee 11 Sep 09 - 02:40 PM
Little Hawk 11 Sep 09 - 09:48 PM
Rapparee 11 Sep 09 - 11:40 PM
Rapparee 12 Sep 09 - 10:46 AM
Rapparee 12 Sep 09 - 11:06 AM
Acme 12 Sep 09 - 11:26 AM
Amos 12 Sep 09 - 12:10 PM
GUEST,Rapaire 12 Sep 09 - 01:03 PM
Amos 12 Sep 09 - 01:05 PM
Amos 12 Sep 09 - 01:49 PM
Acme 12 Sep 09 - 03:36 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Sep 09 - 11:10 AM

"coffee" shops, that is... (snort!)

"ooffee" shops would be more like Chinga's place, I think.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 11 Sep 09 - 11:49 AM

Little Hawk:

The art of Advanced Knowledge Management is in focusing at least 51% of the available attention to intersect with at least 51% of the information that has a relative truth value of more than .7 (where 1 = complete certainty).

If you have ever tried to manage knowledge (as a teacher or librarian does every day) this principle is self-evident. You need to get available attention and delicately or not get it applied to information that has a positive truth value. That truth value of course depends on your methods of evaluating truth, hence the certainty factor.

Unfortunately this effort is rendered doubly complex, at least, by the plasticity of viewpoints which traverse the multiverse, such as Rapaire's, and which are notorious for high indices of plasticity in the framing of certainty equations. This makes for artificial certainties in regions of heuristically abysmal truth value (cf. Little Hawk).

Here again the truism is self evident once understood. All it says is that some people have very sloppy ways of defining certainty and relative truth, and will assign validity to almost any old thing. For example, Rapaire invokes scientific formulas of no relevance to support outlandish assertions, hoping no-one will look them up. Your own method of this offense is more Disneyoid.

IF you have further questionsd about this, why not rely on Rapaire to explain them to you? I am sure he can relate them to Carnot's theorem of reversible engines. The following may help him bridge these apparently disparate spheres:

For 1 kmole:
Q41=Cv(T4-T1)
Q32=Cv(T3-T2)
For the 2 adiabatic processes:
T2V2
( -1)=T1V1
( -1)
T3V2
( -1)=T4V1
( -1)
It follows that:
N=1-(T4-T1)/(T3-T2)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 11 Sep 09 - 11:52 AM

Perhaps Amos's goal is to see that all words appearing in most modern collegiate dictionaries appear here on the MOAB at least once.

Has he yet mentioned "ablution"?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 11 Sep 09 - 12:40 PM

Ah, no, good Badubb--it has nothing to do with the words. It is for Mom. I long to see EVERY BS CONCEPT imaginable someday find a home within her welcoming bower. This of course entails a lot of vocabulary.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Sep 09 - 01:23 PM

My new rifle came about an hour ago!

Neat-o, huh? I'm waiting for Shame to come visiting.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 11 Sep 09 - 02:13 PM

I am sure, with his new rifle, Rapaire is feeling oofee-er than ever!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Sep 09 - 02:28 PM

Cool, Rapaire! Have you tried it out yet? I waste no time when it comes to trying out new firearms, and I bet you're the same.

As for Shane, I'm sure he'd love to visit you, but he's short of cash for traveling at the moment and his various papers aren't up to date, so he might have some trouble at the border crossing. It's kind of hard dealing with border officials when you've got a record showing 50 or more arrests and incarcerations.

Could you send maybe $500 to Shane to help out?

Shane McBride
General Delivery
Blind River, Ontario, Canada

That would be a good start, eh?

That reminds me, I gotta send that maple sugar. Geez! Too much stuff on my plate here...

Amos - Great stuff! Tell me more. I hang on your every word. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 11 Sep 09 - 02:31 PM

Little Hawk, you are bullshitting me.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Sep 09 - 02:40 PM

I hang on your every word, said the convicted killer to the judge.

No, of course not. I have to clean it and put the sights and things on. This is an Army surplus, but new in the box, .22 single shot target rifle. Not one of those full auto .50 things they use in Canada to hunt bunny rabbits and/or spray the woods and fields with lead. This is a precision tool, with a sight capable of moving the strike of the bullet 1/5 inch at 100 yards. This is rifle is capable of putting one bullet into the hole made by the previous one. I'm not, but the rifle is.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Sep 09 - 09:48 PM

You sayin' Canadians can't shoot straight? Huh? Is that what you're sayin'?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Sep 09 - 11:40 PM

Wrong. Once they've been properly trained by US shooters they do just fine.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 10:46 AM

You see, Canadians have a rather odd view of how a weapon should work, as this picture of the Canadian-designed Macbride Mk VII assault rifle demonstrates. Firing the rather unusual 9 x 9mm Quebecois cube-shaped cartridge, it was for several weeks the standard firearm of the CDF's elite "Moose Jaw Rangers" (officially Commando Especialo Numero Alpha) and was later issued to all CDF personnel who weren't already armed with a Ross Rifle. Tens of these were issued and they proved their worth in offices and latrines throughout Canada ("I likes it cuz the paper roll don't slide off inta the mud" was a comment from a satisfied user).

Today, cooperation with Our Northern Neighbor continues. Canadian officers and NCOs train with the elite United States Army Marksmanship Group (USAMG), where they clean weapons, pick up the fired cartridge cases, clean the "Gents" and the "Ladies", polish boots, and, eventually, are taught to shoot* by some of the world's best markspeople. Because they then bring back what they have learned and use it to teach others in the CDF, Canadians have some of the shinest boots in North America.










*This is mandated by the Canadian Ministry of Defence, who wish to discourage violence in the military. "It's just not, not, NICE, not Canadian," the Minister said recently.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 11:06 AM

Sorry, that should be the U. S. Army Marksmanship UNIT (USAMU), not "Group."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 11:26 AM

Whoa! I found MOM's favorite wacky web site and have parked it on the photo she was chuckling over last night.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 12:10 PM

Who REALLY runs that Idaho library thing is now completely clear.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Rapaire
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 01:03 PM

Amos, you know I wear glasses.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 01:05 PM

Well, it's an old photo, gimme a break.



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 01:49 PM

When I get old and start losing my flair
(A time that is here now),
Will you still forgive me if my thumbs are fat,
"Teh" and "adn" and typos like that?

Will Mom allow me, aged and dry,
To hang around the door?
Will she still please me, humor and tease me,
When I'm sixty-four?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 03:36 PM

Dunno. Are you? If you're cute as Sir Paul, you're fine!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 03:51 PM

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM! Amos is picking on me 'cause my years old adds up to ten!!!!

Ground him, okay?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 03:56 PM

So, your 37, now? My years old does too, but it starts with 6, so you do the math!! :D


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 04:15 PM

Baby. Child. Infant. I'm older than you are, so there.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 05:06 PM

Well it stands to reason, then, that you must be either 64+, or 73, or 82. I am sure you are not 91.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 06:58 PM

He was prolly born last week, is what it is. I know his clever tongued evasions.



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 08:57 PM

If, indeed, you were born on September 12, then I am at least seven (7) months older than you are.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 09:21 PM

I swan, compared to you old fogies and farts, Stilly and I are but nubile young lassies, with a pesky younger brother, Mmario.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 09:31 PM

Yes, at least 7 months and 1 day older and infinitely wiser.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 09:35 PM

Rapaire,

I insist you come to the Getaway so you can call the dastard out.

'twould be great for the mummer's play at the Saturday night concert, and would result in Amos regaining his dignity from the inflated pony fiasco.






Even if you best him in your duel.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 09:49 PM

It would have to be swords...he can use a claymore and I'll use a small sword or a rapier.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 10:13 PM

Would that be a two-handed claymore or a basket-hilted claymore?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 11:43 PM

That would be the two-handed claymore, the real one, not the basket-hilted backsword misidentified as a claymore. That would give Amos the advantage of reach, offsetting my experience and making the engagement more equal and thus more honorable.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 01:10 AM

I would hate to ship you home in too packages, one for either half, split cleanly from guggle to zatch. Hate it. Best you stay in Idaho and make sniffy remarks about those of us who go forth to open our souls to joy at the Getaway. In fact I insist you stay home for your own sake.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 05:25 AM

Aha! Another flurry of idle boasting is afoot, I see. Sad that those of such limited, puny martial abilities should strut their stuff in this vainglorious fashion. Perhaps I should attend and give you both a much-needed lesson in the fine art of swordplay?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 08:58 AM

I hate to say it, but you don't know your moulinet from your forte.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 04:34 PM

You do, however, have your foibles.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 04:44 PM

And he's fuller something, though I dare not say what.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 04:52 PM

The thought of Little Hawk teaching me a lesson leaves me quaking in my very socks. Quaking!! I am so full of stark terror I don't know whether to shit or go blind, and it keeps growing from there. I am melting from sheer fright at this picture he has conjured up. Panic! Panic! Lord save us all. Agggh. Eeek. And several other feminine expletives.



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 07:30 PM

I am happy to report thatthanks to a very clever doctor , I do not wear glasses, sir. I have a built-in plastic lens in one eye that takes care of all that! :D


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 08:37 PM

A bionic man!

My age adds up to 10 also. What a remarkable coincidence!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 08:48 PM

I know well how terrified you are at the thought of me teaching you something, Amos. Ah yes. Shaking in zee little booties, aren't we?

Sort of like this:

---------!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 09:56 PM

YEah, but yours starts with a 3.

LH, you have already taught me a great deal; so much, my brain is full. I am not ungrateful but I simply can't take another helping.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 10:22 PM

From Wikipedia:

The Sun is expected to become a red giant in approximately five billion years. It is calculated that the Sun will become sufficiently large to engulf the current orbits of the solar system's inner planets, up to Earth, and its radius will expand to a minimum of 200 times its current value. The Sun will lose a significant fraction of its mass in the process of becoming a red giant, and there is a chance that Mars and all the outer planets will escape as their resulting orbits will widen. Mercury and most likely Venus will have been swallowed by sun's outer layer at this time. Earth's fate is less clear. Earth could technically achieve a widening of its orbit and could potentially maintain a sufficiently high angular velocity to keep it from becoming engulfed. In order to do so, its orbit needs to increase to between 1.3 AU (190,000,000 km) and 1.7 AU (250,000,000 km). However the results of studies announced in 2008 show that due to tidal interaction between sun and Earth, Earth would actually fall back into a lower orbit, and get engulfed and incorporated inside the sun before the sun reaches its largest size, despite the sun losing about 38% of its mass. Before this happens, Earth's biosphere will have long been destroyed by the Sun's steady increase in brightness as its hydrogen supply dwindles and its core contracts, even before the transition to a Red Giant. After just over 1 billion years, the extra solar energy input will cause Earth's oceans to evaporate and the hydrogen from the water to be lost permanently to space, with total loss of water by 3 billion years. Earth's atmosphere and lithosphere will become like that of Venus. Over another billion years, most of the atmosphere will get lost in space as well; ultimately leaving Earth as a desiccated, dead planet with a surface of molten rock.

Just thought I'd try an' cheer y'all up a bit....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 10:25 PM

It's going to be sucked up by the Andromeda Galaxy before that. Sometime around 3:17 EDT tomorrow, according to my calculations -- and they're based on Nostradamus!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 10:28 PM

"We're all gonna die!!!!!!" (a popular theme in Hollywood disaster films)

So why should I worry? I've already died so many times already. ;-) If Earth proves uninhabitable, and if I have not yet evolved sufficiently at that point to avoid being drawn back into bodily existence by my various unsatisfied desires and accumulated karma...well, then, I'll just reincarnate on some other suitable planet in some other star system.

A cinch really. As easy as falling off a log. What's not easy is getting past that stage entirely. Trust me. It ain't easy, and few have done it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 10:40 PM

I've done done it. You have to know yourself, really know yourself, and them understand and embrace The All. This permits you to leave the body and material things because they become immaterial.

The problem is that you might not at all like what you find. For example, the first time I did it I found my leg being peed on by a wiener dog. I knew at once that this was a test, of course, but by then it was too late: I had to go wash dachsypee out of my pants legs. But anyone can achieve it: embrace the Valkyries, let them take you with them, and know that beyond Ragnarok lies True Nirvana, where you can fight, feast, drink, and wench (or man) to your heart's content, knowing that if you are slain you'll be alive again because you are one of Kali's soldiers and that you are marching with the One-Eyed One who has the two ravens to guide him.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 11:55 PM

This is the best news I have ever heard, Rapaire. If just ONE of our brave brothers under Mom can break the wheel, it is a surety we all can, because of the "chains of light" effect of BS.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Sep 09 - 07:07 AM

Rapaire doesn't have a leg to pee on! (grin)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Sep 09 - 08:02 AM

No, it didn't dissolve or anything. I still have at least two legs.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 14 Sep 09 - 11:41 AM

Sometime around 3:17 EDT tomorrow, according to my calculations

According to mine this requires direct violation of the FTL limit, Rapaire, which would mean your calculations depend on translating all the molecules of matter between here and there into qubits. Such a transformation would probably mean the collision would pass harmlessly.

I think a few billion years is a more likely estimate. Galaxies are in fact very diffuse?the nearest star to the Sun is in fact almost thirty million solar diameters away from the Earth. (If the sun were scaled to the size of an American quarter, 24.26 mm (0.955 in), the next closest quarter/star would be 700 km [475 miles] away.) If the theory is correct, the stars and gas contained in Andromeda will be visible to a naked-eye viewer in approximately 2 billion years.[4] If the collision occurs, the galaxies will likely merge into one larger galaxy.


While it is known that the Andromeda galaxy is getting closer to the Milky Way by about 120 km/s, there is no way to tell whether it is going to collide or miss. The best indirect estimates of the transverse velocity indicate that it is less than 100 km/s. This suggests that the dark matter halos, although possibly not the actual disks, of the galaxies will collide.

(Data borrowed from WIkipedia)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 14 Sep 09 - 12:11 PM

Hey Rap! Was Kali visiting? How'd she get into that mix?


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