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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

Amos 04 Aug 05 - 11:48 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 11:48 PM

Précisement, ma Chére Sagesse!

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 11:38 PM

Curses, foiled again!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 10:24 PM

I think they were trying out them prototypes on those flights outta Area 51, looping down over Texas and back, some years ago. Very hush hush but it definitely had to do witht he anti-knowledge particle. They had to worry about what to hold it in, fer fear the pilots would be too dumb to bring their multi-billion dollar stealth bombers back to base.

I hear Reynolds made millions in defense contracting that year.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 09:43 PM

Here's how you solve your problem, Rap. First, you have to go before a judge and prove that you're from Idaho. Then, you convince him/her that it's extremely unfair for you to have to settle up in Alaska dollars since everybody knows the cost of living in Alaska is outrageous. Agree to pay the equivalent amount based on a formula comparing Alaska's and Idaho's costs of living. Give them $3.97 and go home.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 09:05 PM

I can't find a shower. You don't want to know what a "slimer" does. You really don't. It's icky.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 08:46 PM

Now the politicians and generals will probably find some way to gather up negative knowledge and drop it on people from airplanes. Yep, stupid bombs.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 08:33 PM

Now Mag, it is quite understandable. They did not imagine -- and how could they -- that Quantum Mechanics and G.W. Bush could be mentioned in the same breath. You can't blame them for being a bit intimidated. Bush recently entertained 12 people who had one Presidential Citations for academic achievement from notable universities all over the country; after months of security screening, they came together in the Oval Office carefully briefed not to speak unless spoken to, to stand a certain distance apart, no overcoats or handbags.

In the presence of this illustrious group of advanced thinkers, the President gave a brief statement on how "his faith was really important to him". And then chatted about the carpet on the floor which his wife Laura had designed to "be a happy thing" with rays and a sun in the corner...He asked none of them about their work advancing human knowledge.

They were all underwhelmed, I don't mind saying. I have this report from one who was there.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 08:15 PM

The discovery, that quantum knowledge can be negative was made by three researchers, Drs Michal Horodecki, Jonathan Oppenheim and Andreas Winter, of the Universities of Gdansk, Cambridge and Bristol. Their work was published in the leading scientific journal Nature on August 4.

Pardon me, Amos, but

Well, DUH!

George W. Bush is the walking breathing illustration of this, and they only figured it out now? Where have they been, in a cave in the wilds of New Guinnea for the last six years?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 06:48 PM

Loathe though I am to disturb the perfect tranquility of an 8700 post count, I feel it is impertative to share withy out he LATEST BREAKTHROUGH from the strange land of QUANTUM MECHANICS. Or maybe it is quantum anti-mechanics. Whatever:

      
"Even the most ignorant cannot know less than nothing. After all, negative knowledge makes no sense. But, although this may be true in the everyday world we are accustomed to, it has been discovered that negative knowledge does exist in the quantum world. Small objects such as atoms, molecules and electrons behave radically different than larger objects -- they obey the laws of quantum mechanics.

        
The discovery, that quantum knowledge can be negative was made by three researchers, Drs Michal Horodecki, Jonathan Oppenheim and Andreas Winter, of the Universities of Gdansk, Cambridge and Bristol. Their work was published in the leading scientific journal Nature on August 4.

What could negative knowledge possibly mean? "If I tell it to you, you will know less," explained Dr Andreas Winter.

Such strange situations can occur because what it means to know something is very different in the quantum world. "In the quantum world, we can know too much," added Dr Oppenheim, "and it is in these situations where one finds negative knowledge." Negative knowledge (or more precisely ? 'negative information') turns out to be precisely the right amount to cancel the fact that we know too much.

In the quantum world, there are things we just cannot know, no matter how clever we are. For example, we cannot know both the position and momentum of a small particle exactly. One can also have situations where someone knows more than everything. This is known as quantum 'entanglement', and when two people share entanglement, there can be negative information.

While all this might appear to be very mysterious,Dr Michal Horodecki is quick to point out that the idea of negative information can be put on a rigorous scientific footing. "We can quantify information in terms of how much stuff I need to send you before you get to know something. In the case of negative quantum information, you can get to know something without me sending you any quantum particles. In fact, you will gain the potential to learn more quantum information in the future." "




There you have it folks -- the key to all our perplexity about human mental illness, obsessive compulsive disorder, manic Republicanism, and even the incomprehensible W factor: NEGATIVE KNOWLEDGE!!


I have always believed that the ability to know is a clear indication that there is more to the mind and soul of human beings than the mere electrochemical wetware they use as a damper for their potentials, a muffler and shock absorber. But now that quantum mechanics has revealed the presence of an anti-particle to knowing itself, I am deeply shaken.

This could be important....


:D


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 04:35 PM

8700


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 04:31 PM

Heck, Rap, that's easy. Just use one of your fancy library color copiers and print it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Rapaire
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 04:12 PM

Help.

I went to Whitehorse on the WP&Y railroad and a really swell guy bought me drinks and I bought this gold claim he had. Well, it turned out that he owed a little money on it and the debt went with the mine. It was something about mercury and arsenic and water, but I've never been quite sure about it. And there was something about the title, too. Anyway, the RCMP came and I barely managed to escape their clutches. I did get back to Juneau and I took the ferry to Sitka, where I am now. But last night a warrant from the Yukon was served at the...well, they say it's a hotel...where I'm staying and I had to promise pay the money wtihin 30 days. So I've taken this job on a salmon boat as a "slimer" and a second job as a skullgrinder. If anyone would like to help get me out of durance very vile, please send money. Lots of money.

Thank you. I know that MOABites will always come through.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 03:33 PM

Hell that will be TEOTWAWKI!! Might as well develop telepathic communication. Come to think of it, evolutionarily that may be why we're so socked into information exchange; I suspect those who grow up playing wild-ass video games and cruising the Internet will greatly expand their brains and their ability to process huge terrains of data and extrapolate rich information from small signals, the ultimate case of which is telepathy.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 03:30 PM

Couldn't you PM it to me Amos?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 03:04 PM

There is a way you can compress the information and transport it faster, but you need a key to know what the hell they're talking about. After all, SSEWBA.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 01:42 PM

I have three, MM, and I am sure I can spare one if you need it. But you have to pay for transport.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 11:30 AM

my brain-cell hurts. Could someone loan me a brain cell until mine cools down? I think I overheated it trying to make sense of someones postings in another thread.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 11:26 AM

John Bolt-on?

Don't you get it, BWL? This recess appointment is in LOO of a regular appointment. Dubya made a pun and doesn't know it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 11:23 AM

The good thing is, when we set up camp up there, all we need to bring is the oxygen and carbon. Makes the load lighter! :)

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 08:33 AM

So all those SF stories about Moon-men stealing the Earth's atmosphere were CORRECT? who'd a thunk it!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 08:55 PM

I don't get it. Why all the controversy over this John Bolt-on? I thought everbody's John was bolted on. I mean, if you glue your John on with epoxy how are you ever going to take it out for repairs when some kid tries to flush a perfume bottle down it?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 07:50 PM

Look here!! It wasn't global warming at all:

EARTH "AIR" FOUND ON MOON, August 03
The Moon's soil is impregnated with nitrogen that came from Earth's atmosphere, according to Japanese scientists writing on Thursday in Nature, the weekly British science journal.
Full story at http://www.physorg.com/news5601.html



Wow! Who'd a thunk?? Thank goodness for those Japanese, huh???


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 07:36 PM

I only prod1gal at a time; my heart won't take too much...

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 07:35 PM

What do they think they're playing at, posting any random rubbish just to get to what they think of as alot of posts? Actually having a goal for a thread? preposterous!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: rumanci
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 07:05 PM

WAKEY WAKEY MOM

How can you sleep with that noisy bunch driving at a ton next door ?

MOM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 06:01 PM

From the calf's POV those are the unkindest cuts of all. . .


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 04:39 PM

It's not the posts, it's the goddamned inexorability of apparent Time, the Cosmic deceiver.

One post is enough to cost an entire civilization, under the right circumstances. Where would the Light Brigade be today, if not for one small post telling them to take the Turkish guns? (Dead of old age, p'raps?). Where would Christianity be if not for one little post from Pontius turning Jesus back to the judgement of the Jews? And if you have a fatted calf, I wouldn't mind a couple of choice cuts.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: rumanci
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 04:27 PM

Amos believes wholeheartedly in the

PROD 1 GAL notion eh Mom ?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 04:21 PM

You were only gone one post! What, you expect maybe a fatted calf?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: rumanci
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 04:20 PM

blowing the clouds away I hope

:-D


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 04:19 PM

I went away, and I came back. Hi, Mom. Where are all the kids?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 02:09 PM

Welcome back Mag!!

Glad you didn't get mugged in the Big Apple.

I LOVE Horsey's stuff! Thanks for th epointer.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 11:45 AM

I'm back! Amos, you forgot "peripatetic."

Looks like I'm going to have to pull out the old Halicrafter and check out the vacuum tubes to contribute to this latest topic.

There are also a few items to catch up on. Looks like kibby F-5 is up to speed. It won't hurt the MOM to visit with Dave Barry on occasion. :) I would also like to call your attention to the Pulitzer laureate Horsey on the west coast.

Last full day in NYC we were walking down the west side of Manhattan in the park there. Spotted a great water park for tots, then a few blocks later, spotted a dog park, and got a great idea. They had a couple of wading pools set up, and the dogs were finding all sorts of reasons to take their tennis balls into the pools to cool off. An "aha! moment" occured. First thing when I got home yesterday, I hauled out the wading pool and filled it a few inches. Put the dog in, told her to sit, then to lie down. She started to roll over and caught on real quick. This morning she's leaping around the yard, chasing plastic balls, and leaping in and out of the pool. It's supposed to be 101 today.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 11:45 AM

Well, SRS is flitting about in the Big Apple; Rapaire is in the stacks, I suppose; BWL is in pot; Rustic Rebel is visiting the stratosphere today, I think; the Freds are all away seeking nourishment amongst other life-forms; and Little Hawk is busy explaining the universe to all who read; MM is benchmarking networks.

So, Bunn baby, that leaves you and me to stand back to back defending Mom against the evil tendrils of gravity, wherever they may be found!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: rumanci
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 11:43 AM

I've been playing the same game for the last ten days

Sun Hunting

I finally got past round one yesterday
Hey Mom ! .....help me out here and blow a few clouds away
;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 11:28 AM

I'd forgotton as well. I knew it was resistors, but I had to look it up. Isn't google useful?

Dou you know where I found MOAB? The Bottom quarter! What is everyone playing at?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 09:05 PM

Now there's a guy who knows his donuts!! Pretty straight shooting for a BS thread but thanks for refreshing my woeful memory of the system. I haven't touched the damn things for nine years except on pre-fab boards, and to sort out my small-objects-in-little-plastic-drawers box.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 07:01 PM

BBROYGBVGW?

Black Brown Red Orange Yellow Green Blue Violet Grey White
0    1    2   3      4       5    6    7      8    9

first digit
second digit
multiplier

Tolerance

Quality

First find the tolerance band, it will typically be gold ( 5%) and sometimes silver (10%).

Starting from the other end, identify the first band - write down the number associated with that color; in this case Blue is 6.

Now 'read' the next color, here it is red so write down a '2' next to the six. (you should have '62' so far.)

Now read the third or 'multiplier' band and write down that number of zeros.

In this example it is two so we get '6200' or '6,200'. If the 'multiplier' band is Black (for zero) don't write any zeros down.

If the 'multiplier' band is Gold move the decimal point one to the left. If the 'multiplier' band is Silver move the decimal point two places to the left. If the resistor has one more band past the tolerance band it is a quality band.

Read the number as the '% Failure rate per 1000 hour' This is rated assuming full wattage being applied to the resistors. (To get better failure rates, resistors are typically specified to have twice the needed wattage dissipation that the circuit produces) 1% resistors have three bands to read digits to the left of the multiplier. They have a different temperature coefficient in order to provide the 1% tolerance.

At 1% most error is in the temperature coefficent - ie 20ppm.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 04:19 PM

A mnemonic for remembering the color stripes banded onto resistors to indicate their # of ohms.

I forget how it works exactly, but there are particular values of ohmage associated with each stripe.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 03:49 PM

BBROYGBVGW?

Huh?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 03:31 PM

While I sympathize with your acronymic and mnemonic distress, I would remind you that TANSTAAFL, even when every good boy does fine according to Roy G. Biv, the electronics expert who invented the transistors color code, in reaction against the scoundrels who used to sing "My Very Eager Mother Just Served Us Nine Pizzas" and "Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly" in 4-part harmony outside his bedroom window at night.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 12:04 PM

whoops! I think I forgot an "A"

TWAAAEFNR should be TWAAAAEFNR - Those who Anonomously Automatically and Arbitrarily Edit for No Reason.

could a clone correct that?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 11:57 AM

1. Soft ice cream is the same temperature, approximately, as harder ice cream; but because it is soft it exposes a large area of the mucous membranes and their nearby blood-vessels to very low temperature. Thus more of your blood cools more rapidly, causing constriction of the tissues in the brain to a slight degree, in reaction to which you feel an "ice-cream headache".

This explanation may not be correct, but it makes perfect sense; and this is the MOAB after all.

2. Did you notice the number of the Beast creeping in to Mario's last post? 8-666. Hmmmmm....it didn't SEEM satanic, but you never know with these RenFair Anachronism types. They are masters of disguise, physical and oral.

3. Maggie, you're done in New York!! Come home! There's a slow slough of posts for you to slewly catch up with!

A

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 10:12 AM

kibby - you could also go to the Song Challenge! Index thread


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,kibby F5
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 10:07 AM

Wow! A powerful Texan Redhead! We have one of those - she's in Georgia, but probably wanting to be in Texas (she has a thing for chaps!).

*goes to examine Filter Box, hopes it's not stuck*

*goes to set time machine back 6 years and hopes*


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 10:00 AM

uh-oh!

Mom? I think I may have done a no-no bragging about my visitation from GG. I just had a really long, really involved post (to *that* thread - I will admit) disappear into the aether.

Maybe I should be paranoid? Maybe I have ticked off those who automatically and arbitrarily edit for no reason?

Of course that brings up the question - do TWAAAEFNR actually exist or are they the brain-fever delusions of a certain individual being imposed on us by some sort of mass projective empathy?

Oh well - guess I'll just go out and watch the sun move through the skies, then dig a bit in the hole I'm making to try and see the elephants and the turtle. How thick is the world, anyway?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 09:45 AM

Gaelic Goddess, a powerful redhead who prowls the skies over west Texas. Few mortals have seen her

I am one of the lucky few - the Gaelic Goddess, perky tits and all, appeared before me one day as I sat in the tavern listening to the Bard O'Niell. it was an interlude hard to describe - but I believe that someday as many people may make pilgrimages to Moon On The Hill as currently do to Lourdes.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 09:36 AM

Kibby:

Stick "SONG CHALLENGE" into the filter box and set the time machine for 6 years or so and you will have your answer.

They are the province of a currently-on-leave Cat magician named Aine, also known as the Gaelic Goddess, a powerful redhead who prowls the skies over west Texas. Few mortals have seen her but her power is unquestioned. On 28 January, 2000, she wrote "I saw a funny story in the newspaper this morning..." and the rest is history.

I merely suggested these two topics would make good ones! :D

PLeasant trails!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,kibby F5
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 09:15 AM

So, what's this Song Challenge thingie and how do we find the results? From what I've seen you have 2 challenges going now - Bra Fences and Hair Balls.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 08:43 AM

it's because it is soft and it squishes up all over the palate, freezing your sinuses. Or something of the sort - same thing happens if you stir regular ice cream until it's an almlost melted mush. Instant headache.


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