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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

Rapparee 20 May 05 - 08:46 AM
GUEST,MMario 20 May 05 - 08:32 AM
Amos 20 May 05 - 02:15 AM
Acme 20 May 05 - 01:04 AM
Rapparee 19 May 05 - 10:18 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 May 05 - 08:46 AM

That seems to be a close approximation of the work done in the 1970s (and earlier) on information dissemination.

And why not? Information is does not differentiate between the truth or falsity of the content. Information, like Beauty, is its own excuse for being.

My current Gedankenexperiment is whether information must have any content at all. It would seem that it should, but recent examples out of Washington, DC, Los Angeles, and elsewhere suggest otherwise.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 20 May 05 - 08:32 AM

it's no wonder the mangabeys are a rare species though - there aren't many 2400 meter trees around for them to inhabit.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 20 May 05 - 02:15 AM

Mag:

My remark weas unseemly and I retract it with apogees. What it was was that I thought you weren't barking but bark-honking at Rapaire.

On to more serious stuff, here's an insight intot he way BS circulates among a population. You may wonder but it is just possible we are in the correct proportion to the Mudcat population!! It seems about right to me.

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The stochastic theory of rumours, with interacting subpopulations of ignorants, spreaders and stiflers, began with the seminal paper of Daley and Kendall. The most striking result in the area?that if there is one spreader initially, then the proportion of the population never to hear the rumour converges almost surely to a proportion 0.203188 of the population size as the latter tends to infinity?was first signalled in that article. This result occurs also in the variant stochastic model of Maki and Thompson, although a typographic error has resulted in the value 0.238 being cited in a number of consequent papers.

I was intrigued and a little puzzled to learn that a rumor would die out while "almost surely" leaving a fifth of the people untouched. Why wouldn't it reach everyone eventually? And that number 0.203188, with its formidable six decimal places of precision?where did that come from?

I read on far enough to get the details of the models. The premise, I discovered, is that rumor-mongering is fun only if you know the rumor and your audience doesn't; there's no thrill in passing on stale news. In terms of the three subpopulations, people remain spreaders of a rumor as long as they continue to meet ignorants who are eager to receive it; after that, the spreaders become stiflers, who still know the rumor but have lost interest in propagating it.

The Daley-Kendall and Maki-Thompson models simplify and formalize this social process. Both models assume a thoroughly mixed population, so that people encounter each other at random, with uniform probability. Another simplifying assumption is that people always meet two-by-two, never in larger groups. The pairwise interactions are governed by a rigid set of rules:

?Whenever a spreader meets an ignorant, the ignorant becomes a spreader, while the original spreader continues spreading.

?When a spreader meets a stifler, the spreader becomes a stifler.

?In the case where two spreaders meet, the models differ. In the Daley-Kendall version, both spreaders become stiflers. The Maki-Thompson rules convert only one spreader into a stifler; the other continues spreading.

?All other interactions (ignorant-ignorant, ignorant-stifler, stifler-stifler) have no effect on either party.

The rules begin to explain why rumors are self-limiting in these models. Initially, spreaders are recruited from the large reservoir of ignorants, and the rumor ripples through part of the population. But as the spreaders proliferate, they start running into one another and thereby become stiflers. Because the progression from ignorant to spreader to stifler is irreversible, it's clear the rumor must eventually die out, as all spreaders wind up as stiflers in the end. What's not so obvious is why the last spreader should disappear before the supply of ignorants is exhausted, or why the permanently clueless fraction is equal to 0.203188 of the original population.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 20 May 05 - 01:04 AM

Amos,

Why would you assume I'm that monkey? I'm much more than 3 feet tall, I've never been 37 feet tall, I don't have a dark hairy face and never had a monkey tail. I don't bark, though I did nip around Rapaire's ankles for a little while this afternoon.

I do have a dog who has been barking a lot this evening. Maybe she knows something about these monkeys that I don't.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 May 05 - 10:18 PM

Ralph's son is named Xavier.

I just thought you should know.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 19 May 05 - 10:03 PM

Bunn:

Yeah? Where is it written that there's such a thing as...oh, well...yeah, fine, never mind!!!!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 May 05 - 09:37 PM

Hi! I'm not Filmynecro Ted, but I do have brother named Ted. He even studied guitar and actually knows a G string from a virginal. He and I (and my other brother as well) all share two names out of three (excluding our surname, but if you include that it's three out of four).

Yes, I have a first name and two, count 'em! two!, middle names. So let's see:

Michael Anthony Ralph
Anthony Thomas Ralph
Theodore Ralph Anthony

who had a father named Ralph.

And then there's the next generation:

Ralph Paul (whose maternal grandfather was named...Paul)
Daniel Michael
Theodore Edward (whose initials spell "TED")
Anthony James

so at family gatherings we simply shout "Tony!" or "Ted!" and help of all sorts comes a-runnin'.

Now Daniel Michael attracts cars -- he's been hit three times in the last four years. Ralph Paul is an ex-Marine sentenced to live in Michigan with his wife and kid. Theodore Edward is 10 and living at home; Anthony James is in college starting on a career in either experimental or theoretical physics. Anyway, Ted Ed wants to get a doctorate in dinosaurs, his sister is working on a PhD in microbiology, another sister wants a DFA, and yet aother wants a DVM. Since Anthony James will need a PhD, I think that they should go into business together as Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor and Doctor, working in the theoretical veterinary art of microscopic physical dinosaurs, but nobody listens to me.

Daniel Michael wants to be a conservation officer so that he can get paid to go fishing.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 19 May 05 - 08:43 PM

There is a such a thing as trying too hard, Amos.
At least it's not Flamenco ted swooping in...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 19 May 05 - 08:43 PM

Oh, woe on your pate, dear Buunahabain
You have stepped on the fun I was habain
And threw off my number
Like a reckless old bumber,
When will you stop misbehaibin?

Never mind -- you won it randomly fair and randomly square.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 19 May 05 - 08:37 PM

There once was a woman who trotted
Where the wide Western plains are besotted
With bison who thundered
(Oh! 7800)
And with droppings make the grasslands all spotted.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 19 May 05 - 08:37 PM

Only the adults are 3 ft tall. The young are start around 37 ft tall*, and take up to 90 years to shrink to become an adult. This remarkable life cycle has not been noticed, as the monkeys grab a handful of leaves whenever an inquisitive ape of another species goes past, and are so mistaken for a tree.
*No, the births are not difficult. The courtship riutal of the species has become rather elaborate, as the males must demonstrate an impressive abilty to hyper-inflate space-time. This is used to elongate the young from 3 inches, when born, to 37 feet ten seconds later. This ability is due to the specalised diet of the monkeys, containing a high proportion of a certain rare flower. Unfortunatly, when the paper is published with the exact species of flower, the 'herbal viagra' idustry will have a field day.

Full details of this astounding new theory to follow, when I have consulted Full with my collegues Ardbeg, Theobroma Cacao, and C. T. Oinons.


Bunnahabhain.

P.S.
I would not have posted this arcane research, except to reallow the possibility that maggie, may indeed, be a highland mangabey.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 19 May 05 - 08:35 PM

There once was a lady from Paris
Who fell for a gent, name of Harris
She would wait in a line
(7799)
And cry out, "There is! It is Harris!"

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 19 May 05 - 08:33 PM

There once was a lass out of Natchez,
Whose garments were always in patches
She would stand by the gate
(7798)
And wonder just where her thatch is.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 19 May 05 - 08:26 PM

Yes Amos I really gone and done it again allright. That was one strange piece! A close to your super string theory.
As for reading that marquee, that was funnier than quark trying to read it as fast as I could before it disappeared before mine own eyes!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 19 May 05 - 07:53 PM

You sound like one of them mangabeys, Maggie! :D But I have heard you are over three feet tall.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 19 May 05 - 06:37 PM

You think that marquee is difficult to read? Just highlight text, control c, then control v in notepad. And there it is, if you don't want to let it run by for a few passes.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 May 05 - 05:03 PM

Finally I have found a font, color, and display that is damned near impossible to read. Something to offend EVERYONE!!!

Yay for me!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 19 May 05 - 04:51 PM

Excuses, excuses! Tell 'em to wait a couple of minutes for their darned ol' budget hearing, you have to post BS to Mudcat!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Amos
Date: 19 May 05 - 04:45 PM

WASHINGTON, May 19 (Reuters) - Two separate teams of researchers working hundreds of miles apart have discovered a new species of monkey in Tanzania.


The highland mangabey is a medium-sized monkey, about 3 feet (90 cm) tall with a long tail, long brown fur, a black face, hands and feet.

Adults make a distinctive, loud, low-pitched "honk-bark" call. They live in mountainside trees at elevations of up to 8,000 feet (2,400 metres).



Emphasis added. I suspect the universe is dicking around with us for inventing Gluon. These things happen -- observation collapses and reifies a subset of a probability wave, producing the condesate known as real events. When you add BS to observation, the fermions and bosons get so confused they cross-reify as imaginary animals which have honk-bark or quark sounds. BS gives a whole new definition to the cliched notion of quantum entaglment, and, like entanglement, works flawlessly in total disregard of normal spatial dimensions.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 May 05 - 04:41 PM

Messed up librarians don’t do html. Or, more
to the point, messed up librarians might be
far to busy to do html for a “ñ” when said
messed-up librarian has a budget hearing
within ten minutes of posting.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Amos
Date: 19 May 05 - 04:25 PM

Most gentlemen are crucially aware when their tilde slips. The usual remedy is to replace and use shorter phonemes.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 19 May 05 - 01:52 PM

True story:

I lived in Seattle in the mid-1970s and worked near the waterfront downtown. I rode the bus to within two blocks of my office building, and walked those two short blocks and crossed one big avenue. As I walked from the bus a woman several paces ahead of me was carrying a large tote over her right shoulder in such a way that with every step it was managing to hike her mid-thigh-length skirt higher in back, up her leg and up to her hip. All the world could see what was under her skirt, and as I hurried to catch up with her I watched the waiting traffic at the cross walk stare with wide-eyed interest at her display. I caught Tilde and simply said "your skirt is up to your waist!" and she hurridly moved the bag and fixed it, grateful for my intervention. The man in the car who was next to get a clear view was visibly angered that I mentioned Tilde's hip.

So, it depends on whose tilde it is that has slipped, as to whether it will get mentioned or not. But it seems good manners to say something. On the other hand, in grammar, if you know what they mean to say, and interrupting to point out a misplaced tilde is going to interrupt the conversation, then perhaps it is best left alone.

Since this was posted by a tech-savvy librarian who plays with html like it's his first language, catching him in goofed up html probably comes under the heading of "online sport."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,socially Inept
Date: 19 May 05 - 12:53 PM

Dear Miss Manners and/or Abby:

Is it couth to tell someone their tilde has slipped? Or to be polite should one just ignore it?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 19 May 05 - 12:32 PM

Then put the tilde on TOP of the n, not beside it!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 May 05 - 11:47 AM

Have you considered that bodhrans might just be banjos with really short strings, super or otherwise?

And I just realized that "banjo" would be pronounced "banho" in Spanish, and could easily be confused with the word "ba~no". If you are playing banjo at a Hispanic folk festival you might want to be very careful in your pronunciation. Also if you are telling folks how old you are or how long the group has been together -- it's easy to muff it and say "Tengo viente anos" or "Tenemos siete anos" instead of "Tenemos siete a~nos" or "Tengo viente a~nos." That li'l ol' tilde is right important.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 19 May 05 - 11:38 AM

10-33 meters? A bango with stings that length would definitly take over a session....

And if you meant 10 to the power of -33 how could you tune it? It would end up no better than a bodhran?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 19 May 05 - 10:29 AM

if you really wantr superstrings wouldn't it be much easier to go to Kandor, Kryton or Argos and just buy some? Then when exposed to the radiation of our yellow sun and the lesser gravity of Earth...

VIOLA! Superstring!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 19 May 05 - 09:56 AM

Aha! It comes full circle! Ages ago, in a computer far, far away (we presume--it hasn't been seen since it was lugged out of my door by burglars on Feb. 18) is a link for a site on Knot Theory. I kept that link because it was new and interesting and LEGIT! Heck with the string theory, you want to start looking into Knot Theory.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 May 05 - 09:22 AM

Amos. There is but one question in my mind about making superstrings.

As I'm sure you're aware, ultimately all science improves the lot of people, that no one has lost a dime on basic R&D. That not only the initial discoveries repay many thousand-fold, but that the spinoffs -- the discoveries generated by the discovery, if you will -- repay as well. One need only look at the miniaturization necessitated by the US space program and the vast number of things that has affected, from submarines to RFID chips to the spin-stabilized quark memory that your computer uses for data storage to the nanobots which course through your bloodstream and defend you against genetic diseases. This being the case, I feel it imperative to ask the basic question, the core question if you will, about this aspect of superstring research: assuming that the researchers do indeed create superstrings, which would be best for tying on a caddis nymph: a nail knot or a clinch knot? And what kind of backing should I tie to?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Gluon
Date: 19 May 05 - 07:41 AM

QUARK!!! QUARK!!! QUARK!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 19 May 05 - 12:05 AM

There are times. . .

when I wonder if this BS is sticking so well that it will knock the real information out of my head. Case in point, Amos' last post. Real or hyperreal or BS?

Inquiring minds and all of that. . .


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 May 05 - 11:36 PM

A recipe for making strings in the lab
11 May 2005

Theoretical physicists in the Netherlands have proposed a way to make superstrings in the laboratory. If their idea can be put into practice, it would allow aspects of string theory to be explored in an experiment for the first time. The new approach relies on exploiting the properties of ultracold atomic gases (arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0505055).

String theorists attempt to explain all the fundamental particles as vibrations on tiny strings on length scales of about 10-33 metres. The theory naturally includes "supersymmetry" - a symmetry that connects particles with integer spin, known as bosons, to particles with half-integer spin, which are known as fermions. The particles that carry the fundamental forces of nature, such as the photon and the gluon, are bosons, while the quarks and leptons that make up matter are fermions. Although superstring theory is the leading candidate for a theory of everything, there is no experimental evidence to date for strings or supersymmetry.


Now Michiel Snoek, Masudul Haque, Stefan Vandoren and Henk Stoof of Utrecht University have proposed making a "non-relativistic Green-Schwarz superstring" by trapping an ultracold cloud of fermionic atoms along the core of a quantized vortex in a Bose-Einstein condensate (BEC). A BEC is a special state of matter in which all the particles are in the same quantum ground state. Bosonic atoms such as rubidium-87 can enter such as state because, unlike fermions, they do not obey the Pauli exclusion principle.

The bosonic part of the superstring would consist of a vortex line created by rapidly rotating a one-dimensional BEC in an optical lattice (see figure). Next, a gas of fermion atoms, such as potassium-40, would be trapped within this vortex, which is possible under certain conditions. Snoek and colleagues say that it should be possible to observe the supersymmetry between the fermions and bosons by carefully tuning the interactions between the two types of atom with a laser.




This may be very important for guitar and banjo players, who really need super-strings, if they aren't just a bunch of organic-heads!



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 May 05 - 11:05 PM

BW:

Four times good luck be on thy pate
For never thinking of an eight
And, may the gods they spirits leaven
For being always true to "seven"
While some may snarl with hate regressive
Thou art, blithe soul , a true obsessive
Galloping blind from dumber to dumber
By fixating on some goddamn nummer.
If mafic can therein be founded
May magic flood you 'til yer drownded!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 18 May 05 - 10:55 PM

7777!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST
Date: 18 May 05 - 10:54 PM

7776 - 7777


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST
Date: 18 May 05 - 10:54 PM

7775 - number


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST
Date: 18 May 05 - 10:54 PM

7774 - to make post


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST
Date: 18 May 05 - 10:54 PM

7773 - fortunate enough


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST
Date: 18 May 05 - 10:54 PM

7772 - awaits the one


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST
Date: 18 May 05 - 10:53 PM

7771 - Extreme good fortune


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 May 05 - 10:05 PM

Awww. Susy, ya done it again!!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 18 May 05 - 08:04 PM

The village freds have come to conjugate with the wool from the back of a '66 Chevy seat.
The village freds have decided it could serve their purpose well.
The village freds have lost all sense of themselves because of their athlete's feet.
The village freds are starting to swell.

They cry out loud, "Old wool will stop the worms!"
"Old wool will stop them now."
"Old wool, from a seat from a '66 Chev"
"Old wool, old wool."

The village freds can't have no wool, they can't tear up the Chevy seats.
The village freds gonna have to suffer,
The village freds gotta live with them ringworm feets.
The village freds just gotta get a little tougher.

We cry out loud, "Get your grubs off of our old wool"
"Oh yeah, we'll stop you now."
We're protecting our wool from the village freds."
"Our wool, our wool."

Find another planet to fuck with.

Written and performed by the Chevy De-fenders


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST
Date: 18 May 05 - 04:55 PM

Six

, I'd like you to meet ampersand.

ampersand, this is

Six

.

Say hello, you rara avisi, you!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 18 May 05 - 04:18 PM

yep - don';t see many capital sixes anymore - they've become almost as rare as the lower case ampersand.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 May 05 - 03:58 PM

Did I ever mention that my favorite number is the capital (upper case) 6? Not the little ^, but a real capital 6. You don't see them much anymore.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 18 May 05 - 03:38 PM

Thank you for that everyone. There will now be a irrational number of Ralphettes arriving in nine months. You have been warned...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 18 May 05 - 02:24 PM

and Healer of Minds referred to Debbie Earl as "it" - when we all know s/heit is a himherit!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 18 May 05 - 02:08 PM

Yet another case of obviously flagrant Fred fraud! "Healer of Mind" is a fake!

Please refer to the following direct quotation:

"No rational and/or sane fred would willingly visit the backwater hole of your planetary/dimensional space. I mean, why would they? So an entity calling itself a fred does come, please inform me or call fred Continua Enforcement."

The poster uses "fred" in the singular. WRONG!!! It has been incontrovertibly established that "Freds" is singular, plural, and communal. The entire race is "Freds". Three individuals are "Freds". One individual is "Freds". There is no such thing as "a Fred"! The concept is foreign to Freds' way of thinking. It's analagous to an Earthling saying "a humanity".

Now "Healer of Mind" will probably come back with some lame-assed excuse about how hesheit made the mistake on purpose to test us lowly humans about how observant we are and how well we're adapting to the subtle yet irrevocable control that Freds are exerting over our minds. Or maybe hesheit will say that the Freds from whom we've gleaned our bit of understanding of Freds grammar are fakes and that genuine Freds do say "a Fred".

Either way, it'll be lies, lies, lies!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,MMMMMario
Date: 18 May 05 - 01:18 PM

if you look closely - you will see she is wearing white socks.

foolish child.

Black socks! They never get dirty the longer you wear them the blacker they get!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 18 May 05 - 01:15 PM

MOAB Boing! back to the top!
(sorry it's so big. And where are the feet on this child?)


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