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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 12:46 PM

Why not see if there's a fencing club nearby and get him into that? I'll bet he'd enjoy it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 12:39 PM

You got off lucky. He could have said you were blithering. Or bloviating.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 12:22 PM

With blessings like that, wh could have a problem? Your tsuris melt like hot butter.

MM: CHATTERING? You may see it as chattering, sirrah, and you purblind and half-deaf. Those with normal sensibilities call it communicating.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 12:19 PM

Wow, Janie! I'd have given my eye teeth as a young boy to have been taken to see the Constitution, the North Carolina, the submarine, etc....not to mention Medieval Times.

You have no need for concern about the young fellow's enthusiasm for war machines and stuff like that. AlL young boys feel that way, but it doesn't indicate by any means that they will grow up to be violent or to be drawn toward violence or war. I can attest to that.

I was simply fascinated by anything the had to do with war, derring-do of all kinds, when I was a boy...as were the other boys I knew...but I was not in the LEAST inclined to be violent in real life or to seek out danger in real life....strictly in fantasy life. I grew up to be someone very opposed to war, and my youthful interest in it had educated me about it enough to give me plenty of "ammunition" FOR opposing it.

So don't worry about Sum Yung Sun. It is natural for a 14 year old boy to be fascinated by warships and combat. Girls, on the other hand, almost always tend to focus on other matters, more on the social aspects of life...people relating to people, in other words. It's a very interesting phenomenon, and it's one of the great mysteries of human nature.

Present efforts by parents to utterly hide all "war" stuff from the sight of their male children is, in my view, utterly misguided. When you get to KNOW about war in detail you are much better equipped to later develop an adult state of mind that can intelligently reason out why war is a very, very bad idea.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 11:51 AM

Hey Mom! it's the first weekend of the new year - why are you lying around in bed? I know you're awake - Amos was chattering at you earlier!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 06:54 AM

He's now found a nice one in Auvergne, for only 1.5 M euros. He's really excited about possibilities.

Interesting, they all seem to have broadband.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 12:06 AM

Think twice--it'll be damp, what with that lake so close to the house.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 12:06 AM

Sum Yung Sun, newly turned 14, is as enamored of knights as he was at age 4.   New Year's Day we drove down to Myrtle Beach and spent the evening at Medieval Times. Sum Yung Sun did not find the Myrtle Beach castle exterior as impressive as the Kissimmee, Fl., castle. Neither of them, obviously, hold a candle to the castle found by Amos' friend.

But Sum Yung Sun was still all agog at the gewgaws that Medieval Times wants you there and hour-and-a-half early to have plenty of time to buy.   It was also a rare treat for him to eat with his fingers without his mother glaring at him, or kicking him under the table. The horses were really lovely.   Our Champion did not die until the very end, although neither of us could cheer for him as loudly as the Master-of-Ceremonies exhorted us to due to our dust allergies. I was tossed the obligatory carnation duly kissed by our Knight in Green (having paid the extra twenty dollars for preferred seating and the flag to wave.) Nonetheless, I could not help but wish to see my brother, the Bard MMario, suddenly appear to entertain us at our dining. In addition, though aware the 11th century was a bit too soon, I half expected my brother Rapaire to apparate into the arena during the jousting and dueling with broad swords and maces, laughing scornfully at the knights gallant, besting all of them with his half pike, and riding off with the princess and the King's blessing.



Next day, we drove to Wilmington and spent 3 hours going through the USS North Carolina Battleship Memorial.   This past summer we had explored the USS Constitution, a WWII submarine, and a Coast Guard vessel at the Baltimore inner-harbor Maritime Museum. At that time, this Mom was concerned that Sum Yung Sun was enamored of the weaponry technology without regard to what it was like for the humans involved. It was reassuring to note that 6 months later, while still quite taken with the weaponry technology, he is also beginning to grasp the human element. He was very interested in reading the posted personal recollections of some of those who served on the North Carolina. The personal recollections focused on what daily life was like for 2000+ young men to live in very close quarters on a huge steel ship that spent most of it's time in the South Pacific.   He began to make connections between what he was seeing and reading, and his maternal grandfather's recollections of his own experience serving in the Merchant Marines during WWII. I have hope that the Quaker school we moved him to in 6th grade is beginning to show some influence. I don't know who he will ultimately be. I don't know if he will eschew violence. But I have reason to hope he will think things through before deciding, and that he will have a moral compass to help guide him.

My Dad was a helmsman on Texaco Tankers throughout the war. He only began talking about that experience about 10 years ago. One thing that always strikes me is how heedless he was at age 18 about the peril he was in.   Sailing up the East Coast from Port Arthur or from the refineries up the Mississippi to New York to rendezvous for convoys across the North Atlantic, he says at that age he was simply sure that death could not find him, despite his awareness of the u-boat attacks, seeing other merchant ships go down, and his involvement in rescuing sailors from disabled or sinking ships. I never had that complete heedlessness. One of three sisters and no brothers, I wonder if it is a 'guy' thing. I see it in my son. It concerns me. So anything that indicates some thoughtfulness is reassuring.

In mid-December, my sister and I hosted a large party for my parents 60th wedding anniversary My dad's sister spoke. She is 6 years younger than Dad, and they had two older brothers, both of whom were in the Army during WWII. My aunt described she and my grandparents gathering around the radio nightly to listen to news of the war, not knowing where any of the boys were, exactly, and always wondering and worrying about their well-being, and what the news might mean in those personal terms.   Afterward, Dad commented that it never occurred to him during those years of war what it was like for his parents and sister. Apparently, neither he nor his brothers had any real sense of their own peril, and therefore no appreciation of the anxiety of those who did. What they all had then, that none of them have now, is blind faith in the leadership of our country to ultimately do what is right.

The Memorial is really quite impressive. A battleship that large is impressive, in and of itself. The self-guided tour is extensive and thorough. What impressed me most, is that it did not, in any way, glorify war, battle, fighting.   It is real and sincere. It acknowledges and values sacrifice, but does not aggrandize either the war or the the sacrifice at all.

I don't know if I would have been a pacifist during WWII. I do know, being a child of the Vietnam era, that I cannot blindly follow the leaders of my country into war. I can not trust the leaders of my country in any respect whatsoever.

I know this post ain't been much in the way of BS, but MOM is generally pretty forgiving of non-BS transgressions.

There has got to be a better way.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 09:41 PM

That place is really quite nice. Quaint, out-of-the-way, peaceful, pastoral...

I think I shall contact my agent and put down an offer.

I wonder if Penelope Rutledge has heard about it yet? If so, I may have to put down a fairly competitive offer.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 08:53 PM

DeGaulle and Pompadour both stayed there? Little hanky-panky, huh? Oolala, those French!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 08:39 PM

Can you even begin to imagine what the heating bill runs?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 07:50 PM

Dream Big to get BEtter.

Here's another friend's version of A Better Way. Watch the photos go by....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 07:32 PM

Yes. There Is a Better Way


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 05:30 PM

Instead they gave me good looks, talent, great intelligence and the other tools needed to succeed in life.

You're just jealous.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 04:33 PM

If you had chosen your parants more carefully before birth you'd be independently wealthy; so , yes, there is a better way, but you mucked it up!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 04:16 PM

Why Should There Be?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 04:08 PM

As I again approach the end of a Friday at work, and look forward to another two days of relatively self-determined, relaxing activities, in which my spirit can rejoice in its own creativity and the tasks of ordinary life are not a burden, I am again led to consider whether I would be a happier, more extroverted, more contirbuting person in the world if I were not constrained by regular employment.

This returns me to the Mother of All Questions, which I again present before you, Brothers and Sisters of the MOAB, for due reflection and consideration, and probably another crop of weisenheimer smart-aleck replies:



Is There a Better Way   ?   ?   ?




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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 02:15 PM

See? It is happening already!!! Cosmic Wisdom, I mean....




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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 01:49 PM

Hey, MOM! It's Friday!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 10:34 AM

THere have been very few observations of current activity on Mars, so I can only assume that Carter and Thoris have slipped into a parallel timestream until a more opportune portal opens up; but the Elders of Mars, the Ancient Ones, have never needed to shift continuua, and their time sense is so much deeper and slower than ours that all of our pinging on their planet since 1900 is of little more import to them than a fly's buzz during a siesta. A meteor, though, might draw some of that unfathomably deep and wise reservoir of Cosmic Attention back to the physical planet and its environs, and if that happens, we may be in for some really remarkable developments, no mistake...



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 09:28 AM

Yeah, and I'll bet she'd be some upset if John Carter got scarred up!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 08:37 AM

As long as Dejah Thoris isn't hit! Be a shame to scar that lovely body.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 03:09 AM

I see where the sky-boys are anxiously waiting to see whether or not a meteror slams into Mars this month....


It would be grand if such a thing happened and it stirred up the Ancient Ones....



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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 09:49 PM

Actually, some Chinese can, and some -- nptably those from Formosa, cannot seem to do so well at all.


And so with only one post more,
We've reached another Golden Shore
Where waters run and BS roars
At 21 of K and 4.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 08:59 PM

Geez...! You better watch out, Amos.   ;-)

The main thing wrong with that joke is this: the Chinese cannot pronounce "R"'s in words. It's the Japanese or the Koreans who tend to use that inflection that is crudely indicated in your joke's dialogue...because they CAN pronounce "R"'s just fine, but they have a lot of trouble with the "L" sound...and tend to convert it into an "R" sound, as in your joke.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 08:53 PM



The story concerns a veteran pilot named Rosenberg, who was assigned a green co-pilot on a commercial passenger flight. The co-pilot was Taiwanese. They went through the pre-flight and did all the correct things, but there was no chemistry between them, and once they got aloft and on course there was a long silence. FInally the captain spoke up and said, "Ya know, I don't much like Chinese people.".

The co-pilot, shocked, replied, "Huh!! Why not like Chinese peopre?"

"The Chinese bombed Pearl Harbor!"

"That not right!! It was JAPanese who bomb Pearr Harbor, not Chinese!!!"

"Ahhh, Chinese, Japanese, they're all the same to me."

They lapsed back into a distinctly chill silence as the big plane cruised through the night.

Finally the co-pilot spoke up.

"You know, me not rike Jewish peoprr!"

"Oh, yeah?" replies the pilot. "What'samattah you, you don't like Jewish people?"

"Jewish peoprr sink Titanic!!"

"You're crazy!! The Jewish people didn't sink the Titanic!! The Titanic hot a damn iceberg!!"

"Ahhhh, iceberg, Greenberg, alla same mee!!"



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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 07:44 PM

From another idiot in the world,m this tale:

"I was depressed last night so I called Lifeline.
Got a call center in Pakistan.

I told them I was suicidal. They got all excited and asked if I could drive a truck......... "


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 05:41 PM

Did the co-pilot Taiwan on before flying or something?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 02:56 PM

Remind me to tell you about the airline pilot who had a new co-pilot from Taiwan. Someday.....mwAHahahaha...



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 02:19 PM

I think that the FIC's hairstyle was supposed to be something like the tradition hairstyle worn by Navajo men -- even though the FIC was supposed to be an Apache.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 01:26 PM

Unstoppable, that's MOM all right!

You'd think she'd slow down occasionally and relax over a cup of tea, or some good single malt - but no - she always has to be up and about - spreading BS thoughout the land, the oceans, the airwaves.

Dedication is her middle name.

or would be if she had one.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: beardedbruce
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 01:12 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 01:05 PM

We are only ten more posts away
From the churning thunder roar
Where the Mighty MOAB thread
Will move to 21-and-4.

Do not doubt, she will not stop,
She the Dreadnought in the storm,
She the force that will not yield,
She, unstoppable, is Mom.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 11:55 AM

I think he got that hairdo from Olive Oyl, liberally applied. Popeye never forgave her.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 11:38 AM

He would bloody well HAVE to leave town, I should think. I mean, you wouldn't want to come back and face those other cowpokes after yelling something like that.

Anyone else notice that Tonto had a most peculiar hairdo that looked sort of like something Olive Oyle might have opted for if she was dressing up for the New Years Party?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 11:35 AM

But he yelled it as he was LEAVING town - so they wouldn't have the chance!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 11:33 AM

Well, depends on the town, I guess. You recall that one of Bugs Bunny's undying regrets was not having turned left at Albuquerque...


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 11:28 AM

Any cowboy who really went around yelling "Hi-Yo, Silver, AWAYYYY...." would have been laughed out of town.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 10:41 AM

Sure, and the very same! Also intrepid pioneers.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 10:25 AM

Lois and Clark? The famous reporter and her kryptonian sidekick?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 10:13 AM

Rapaire, clearly we are re-inventing the medium, and we can borrow TJATAW from Lois and Clark, the intrepid pioneers, and use it to provide background hubris for TLR and Williwaw, his faithful Indian companion.

However I think I see the future: in 2009's series, Brokeback Ranger, the sidekick is affectiionately called Skookums, for reasons that develop in the third through tenth episiodes...



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 09:29 AM

I thought Superman was "truth, justice, and the American way" and the Lone Ranger was "...and a hearty 'Hi-ho, Silver!'...."

(We always thought that shouting "Hi-ho, Silver!" was like yelling "Tally ho! The fox!" and wasn't quite, well, comme il faut for a two-gun cowboy.)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 09:12 AM

"A mysterious masked lawman who, accompanied by his Faithful Indian Companion, Williwa, rides the plains in defense of truth, justice, and the American way!". Que es tonto, no? Ai, mi pobricita mama!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 08:54 AM

How about "chinook" or "williwa"?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 01:44 AM

Don't go trying to substitute that fine Northwestern word skookum for the name of the Lone Ranger's side kick. It isn't a word that would rest lightly on an individual in the American Southwest.

Many fine creeks and rivers and even mountains have the name "chuck" in them. I climbed Pilchuck many times, to many to count, and Pilchuck creek comes off of it. Hyakchuck creek is up near the Whitechuck River in the Darrington area (near Dakhobed, also called Glacier Peak). It is redundant to say "Whitechuck River," and most of us were aware of it. Like saying Mount Fujiyama. It's either Mt. Fuji or Fujiyama because "yama" is mountain.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 02 Jan 08 - 11:20 PM

The better way from Wilmington to Hillsborough to I-40.   

Assuming you're in a hurry, of course.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Jan 08 - 11:12 PM

There is no "Shane," skookum or otherwise.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jan 08 - 10:32 PM

And Shane is the most skookum of hosers.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 02 Jan 08 - 10:28 PM

Mom is definitely the most skookum of threads.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 02 Jan 08 - 08:34 PM

Skookum is itself a heap skookum word, n'est-ce pas?

"... meanings from "'good,' to 'strong,' 'best,' 'powerful,' 'ultimate' and 'first rate.' Something can be skookum meaning 'cool' or skookum can be 'tough.' A skookum burger is a big (or really tasty) hamburger, but when your Mom's food is skookum, it's delicious but also hearty [...] When you're skookum, you've got a purpose and you're on solid ground."

Being called skookum may also mean that someone can be counted on as reliable and hard-working, or is big and strong. In a perhaps slightly less positive vein, skookum house means jail or prison, cf. the English euphemism "the big house" but here meaning "strong house". Skookum tumtum, lit. "strong heart", is generally translated as "brave" or possibly "good-hearted". In the Chinook Jargon, skookum is also used as a verb auxiliary, as in "can" or "to be able". Another compound, though fallen out of use in modern BC English, is skookum lacasset", or strongbox.

A related word "skookumchuck" means turbulent water or rapids in a stream or river, i.e. "strong water" ("chuck" is Chinook Jargon for "water" or "stream" or "lake"). There are three placenames in British Columbia using this word, one of them for a famous saltwater rapid at the mouth of Sechelt Inlet, the others at rapids on the Lillooet and Columbia Rivers."

A better way! A more skookum way!


A


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