BS: The Mother of all BS threads

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Nov 09 - 05:54 PM

There is NO SUCH THING as "low fat" or "non fat" sour cream. That is spackling compound.

I wouldn't use applesauce in something the consistency of a cookie. I would use it in a bread or cake.

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Nov 09 - 04:50 PM

"feeling lonely is a feeling better felt in solitude" - George Coventry

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Ed T
Date: 12 Nov 09 - 04:41 PM

Yes, fats taste good. And is wise to eat it in reasonable quantities.
What are we really saving ourselves for? A few more years in the nursing home?

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Ed T
Date: 12 Nov 09 - 04:34 PM

If you are afraid of being lonely, don't try to be right.
Jules Renard

Virtue cannot live in solitude; neighbors are sure to grow up
around it. Chinese proverb

A man must insult himself before others will.
Chinese proverb

Solitude is impractical and yet society is fatal.
Ralph Waldo Emerson

In solitude, where we are least alone.
Lord Byron

I have never found a companion so companionable as solitude.
Henry David Thoreau

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Nov 09 - 04:33 PM

Yeah, but fats taste so darn good!

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Ed T
Date: 12 Nov 09 - 04:15 PM

Relax Mom, your somewhat aging arteries can be kept open, and Ur (code talk, for Amos and Rapaire) hour glass figure can be 'easily maintained this holiday season...but, don't eat baked goods from anyone U don't know and trusts.

An interesting answer to the purpose of oils (and apple sauce substitute) is found in this site:
http://www.ochef.com/225.htm

And here's a couple of others another that lists other fat alternatives, like Yogurt and sour cream (low fat or not):
http://www.tasteofhome.com/Healthy/Recipe-Makeovers/Baking-Techniques/Yogurt-for-Lower-Fat-Baking

http://ces.uwyo.edu/pubs/WY990.PDF

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Nov 09 - 04:08 PM

Just as we have whole magnificent beaches filled with people seeking solitude... ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 12 Nov 09 - 03:41 PM

Well, there's no question that SOME of us can, Rapaire. People, as you may have heard, have dedicated whole rooms full of volumes dedicated to the fine art of communicating.



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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Nov 09 - 03:29 PM

The real question is whether we CAN actually communicate, Amos. Or are we only mimes, mute players attempting to somehow touch one another in some way, to thereby lessen the loneliness of our existence, and doomed to fail?

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 12 Nov 09 - 01:23 PM

I haven't, but I haven't tried, either. I greatly enjoy your wit and repartee when you bother to communicate, and not when you don't.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Nov 09 - 12:58 PM

Can't crack either one, huh?

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Nov 09 - 12:13 PM

As is your power to bloviate.... ;-)

And mine to extrapolate.... ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 12 Nov 09 - 11:21 AM

Goode sirre Rapaire, you need not exert yourself; you have nothing to prove to me. Your powerful ability to not-communicate is legend in these parts.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Nov 09 - 10:38 AM

Any of my old recipes that call for that much fat, healthy or unhealthy, have been modified by me over the years. You can usually substitute something like apple sauce for some of the oil (like in my old pumpkin bread recipe) so there is 1/2 cup oil and 1/2 cup apple sauce. etc.

Except when I make spritz. I have used shortening, as the recipe calls for, but this year I'll try butter. They'll probably be like shortbread (maybe this is a shortbread anyway?)

MOM doesn't care what goes into them, just so long as she gets cookies this time of year. But if they're really unhealthy, she has begun to notice that when she gives people plates of her cookies that they get passed along. She's seen them turn up on other plates in places like meetings and schools.

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Nov 09 - 09:55 AM

rjite afewa opeen tghin kwbzx qqpin pmvui xsoma amots xxx


Dear Amos: I can make them LOTS more difficult or much easier.


ou-yay till-say ont-way reak-bay he-tay ipher-cay nd-aay xtract-eay he-tay eaming-may.

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Nov 09 - 09:20 AM

Young boy, concerned about the length of his "member" went to the wise old man for advice. The WOM knew that in a year or so it would be similar in length to the boy's friends, so he said, "Every day, rub it with a drop of bear grease. That will put the strength of the bear into it."

A year later the boy came back in tears -- he said that he'd done what the wise old man had said every day, never missing one, but it hadn't worked.

The wise old man said, "And you used a dab of bear grease every day?"

"Well," the boy replied, "we didn't have any, so I used Crisco instead."

"Ai!" exclaimed the old man. "No wonder! That's shortening!

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 12 Nov 09 - 09:10 AM

Thanks for the molasses cookie recipe Ed; I need to make some Christmas Penguins.

1 cup shortening to 5 cups flour is a lower fat ratio then a lot of baked goods!

MMario

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 11:40 PM

Mayhap that is part of the cipher, old top? Besides, your feeble attempt at deciphering failed most miserably. I would never, for example, call you a "dork".

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 11:09 PM

Rapaire:

If you are going to write in code like that, please make very sire it does not contain random typographical errors or it will not decode properly.

tihs shitx?
godni insog
ippet teppi
sfoss ssofs
enism msine
uduro our du
oyrof for yo
ezigo ogize
lopad ' apolo
iknih hink I
tylla allyt
eruoy youre
odyrr rrydo
osfok kofso
rosuo ousor
ysoma   Amos,y

Given the table of inversions shown above, Raparee's cryptic antagionsim translates as:

AMos, yousorkofsorrydoyoureallythinkI'dapologizeforyorudumsinessofsteppindogshit.

It is probable, extrapolating for chronic patterns of known attitude and vocabulary on Rapaire's long and colorful track on the MOAB that his incisive and illuminating remark meant to say:

AMos you dork, do you really think I'd apologize for your dumbness in stepping in dog shit?

But, as can be seen by anyone who traces the cryptographic analysis above, he doesn't spell very well. SO his insult is kind of compromised by a failure in execution. Ah, well, back to the Olde Drawinge Board.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Ed T
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 11:01 PM

Oops, I meant "When using butter or margarine for shortening, add 1 tablespoon milk or water for each 1/2 cup shortening substituted.

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Ed T
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 10:57 PM

Is someone a Pidgin Poet making a mess of sins?

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Ed T
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 10:16 PM

From Land O'Lakes: Shortening:
1 cup butter or margarine (ie Becel) can be substituted for 1 cup shortening. When using shortening in place of butter or margarine, 1 tablespoon milk or water for each 1/2 cup shortening used may need to be added. DO NOT substitute vegetable oil for shortening when recipe calls for melting the shortening.

You can substitute mayonnaise for part of the shortening or margarine in your baking recipes. It adds moistness. Try using half mayo and half shortening at first.

Some healthy folks substitute Spectrum (From the Spectrum site):
We start with organic palm oil, extracted via manual pressing without the use of harmful chemicals. The oil is refined via cold filtration, conjoining oil and a small amount of water at cold temperature�a process similar to the making of ice cream. The palm oil is then whipped using nitrogen, resulting in creamy consistency similar to conventional shortening.

Organic palm oil is not hydrogenated; contains no trans-fatty acids; is lower in saturated fat than butter & has no cholesterol; is widely used in Europe as an alternative to partially hydrogenated oils; is extracted from the palm's fruit NOT the palm's kernel; can be grown organically in tropical regions; of the 3 tropical oils, palm oil is 50% saturated, while palm kernel oil is 86%, and coconut oil is 92% saturated."

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 09:37 PM

xtihs
godni
ippet
sfoss
enism
uduro
oyrof
ezigo
lopad
iknih
tylla
eruoy
odyrr
osfok
rosuo
ysoma

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 09:29 PM

I'm sorry, Amos. I apologize, abjectly. I abase myself. I pour hot ashes and coals upon my forehead. I will dress in naught but a hair shirt with a barbed wire belt tomorrow and I shall carry a 40 pound candle through the streets, stopping before each place of worship and/or saloon and flagellating myself with my autoflagellator. Finally, when the candle has burned down to a nubbin I shall climb into a barrel of rusty nails and broken glass and rolled downhill into the cold depths of the river downstream from the pipe that empties the raw sewage from the pesthouse. Taken broken, bleeding, and shivering from the barrel I will then dedicate the rest of my life as a hermit caring for lepers. As you can tell, I'm really, really sorry for whatever it was I did.

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 09:27 PM

One cup melted shortening.

Throw out that recipe. It will kill you.

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 09:06 PM

You're trying to catch up to Amos, aren't you? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Ed T
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 09:05 PM

vo·la is the palm or sole.

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Ed T
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 09:01 PM

Old doctor's saying:
If a drug has an effect....it most likely has a side effect.

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Ed T
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 08:58 PM

Un médecin est un professionnel de la santé titulaire d'un diplôme de docteur en médecine. Il est chargé de soigner les maladies, pathologies, et blessures ...

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Ed T
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 08:56 PM

If you have molasses, dont ue it for medecin...and don't want to make rum:

Vola... MOLASSES COOKIES

1 cup molasses
1 cup sugar
1 cup melted shortening
1 cup very hot water with 3 teaspoons baking soda
5 cups flour
1 teaspoon cream of tartar mixed in with flour
2 teaspoons salt
1 teaspoon vanilla
2 teaspoons ginger
1/2 teaspoon ground cloves
1/2 teaspoon cinnamon
Mix all ingredients in order given. Let dough chill for 2 - 3 hours. Roll out (not too thin) and cut out cookies. Bake at 375 degrees F. for 10 - 12 minutes. Submitted by: Mr. Ed

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 08:44 PM

If he doesn't apologize, MOM will wash his mouth out with an oregano/Scope cocktail.

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 08:43 PM

I think you nailed it, Amos. This fever has got my brain a little addled.

I'm getting google ads for oregano oil and Scope mouthwash.

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 08:41 PM

BTW I think Rapparee should apologize for his remarks about whether I could handle his name change (which he decided not to do). I have demonstrated perfectly well I could continue to harass him under his new name.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 08:37 PM

IF you are using a right-clcik or some equivlent you may be jumping into the context-sensitive dropdown menu, which includes saving the linked file as something. Because it is an HTML file, it might htink it deserved the application warning.

In Safari the context sensitive menu includes:

Open Link in a New Window
Open Link in a New Tab
Download Linked FIle
Download Linked FIle As...
Add Link to Bookmarks
Copy Link

And maybe one or two others depending on your local environment.

IF you think you are just single-clicking, make sure one of your lovely fingers is not resting on the Option key or the Command key, which will make it do something else.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Ed T
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 08:10 PM

Too much blackstrap's a'drippin on yer keyboard, I suspect.

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 07:32 PM

Something very weird. When I tried to open MOAP a few minutes ago, the downloads window opened with a warning that the thread is an application, and was I sure I wanted to download it.

I cancelled it, clicked again, and the thread opened. Then clicked on the list to start with the last post I had read, and the same thing happened.

I closed Safari, reopened it, and now all is well.

'tis a mystery. (Wonder what MOM's been drinking?)

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 07:10 PM

Sounds like you guys are trying to turn Janie into a science project. Don't try all of that stuff at once or you're liable to look like that volanco exhibit where you pour vinegar over the can of baking soda.

Try gargling with warm salt water, and use your neti pot.

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Ed T
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 04:48 PM

Post'in like a bourgeoisie
More noble than a Hammontree
Was the multi-post'in gent named Raprie

Now there's no guarantee
That our gutsy Raparie
Can keep post'in all this potpourr

He's tomorrow's aujourd'hui
Post'in stew like boy-ar-dee
Could he be MOM's chosen franchisee?

Can he keep his post esprit
For the MOAB eternity
Or will this shroom turn out to be Fungi?

It won't take an eternity
For all the Cats to see
If this rapper is a blue-blood or whoppee

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 02:19 PM

The geek mind at play is a wonderful thing to behold. Two examples: Roomba Pacman, built by three engineers whose day jobs involve unmanned aerial vehicle systems (videos here), and Novel Chess, a system too complicated to explain here that allows works of literature to compete on the 64-square field of battle (e.g. "Nearly as exhausting is the 141-move slugfest between Benjamin Constant's lapidary tale of ennui and seduction, Adolphe (1816), and La Bodega (1905), Vincente Blasco Ibáñez's crusading proto-prohibitionist indictment of wine-drenched backwardness in Andalucía — a game that culminates in yet another triumph for Iberian social realism."

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 01:18 PM

IF you wanted to open a crappery
You should hire a man like our Rapaire
To greet folks and doff his fine cappery
And ignore any tickle-and-slappery.
He'd debate about choirs and pappery
And calm guests from feeling quite snappery.
ANd the man who can handle the flappery
Is definitely noble old Rapaire.
Folks would roll up in Rollses and trappery
To be greeted by such a sartrap-eree
And dress up in silk and in drappery,
TO be greeted by noble old Rapaire.
And barring some awful mishappery
'Twould for sure be a smashing grand crappery,
You'd make thousands by just selling mappery
To Rapaire's dappery crappery!

A

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Ed T
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 01:10 PM

Raparie did it.....
HIS WAY!!!

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Ed T
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 01:08 PM

I don't mean to grate the great,

the noble, kind 'a wise

Or, so they say,

is he going which-a- way?

Or, is he going any way?

Or, maybe anyway?

Oh, that way ... you say>

Or, did he mean the other way?

I am not sure it has to be...

Oh, say it ain't so, Raparie

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 12:28 PM

Students of the Greek philosopher Aristotle (384 BC – 322 BC) first used the word 'metaphysica' (literally "after the physical") to refer to what their teacher described as "the science of being qua being" - later known as ontology. 'Qua' means 'in the capacity of'. Hence, ontology is inquiry into being in so much as it is being, or into being in general, beyond any particular thing which is or exists; and the study of beings insofar as they exist, and not insofar as, for instance, particular facts obtained about them or particular properties relating to them. More specifically, ontology concerns determining whether some categories of being are fundamental, and asks in what sense the items in those categories can be said to "be".

Some philosophers, notably of the Platonic school, contend that all nouns (including abstract nouns) refer to existent entities. Other philosophers contend that nouns do not always name entities, but that some provide a kind of shorthand for reference to a collection of either objects or events. In this latter view, mind, instead of referring to an entity, refers to a collection of mental events experienced by a person; society refers to a collection of persons with some shared characteristics, and geometry refers to a collection of a specific kind of intellectual activity.[1] Between these poles of realism and nominalism, there are also a variety of other positions; but any ontology must give an account of which words refer to entities, which do not, why, and what categories result. When one applies this process to nouns such as electrons, energy, contract, happiness, space, time, truth, causality, and God, ontology becomes fundamental to many branches of philosophy.
[edit] Some fundamental questions

The principal questions of ontology are "What can be said to exist?" and "Into what categories, if any, can we sort existing things?" Various philosophers have provided different answers to these questions.

One common approach is to divide the extant entities into groups called categories. Of course, such lists of categories differ widely from one another, and it is through the co-ordination of different categorial schemes that ontology relates to such fields as library science and artificial intelligence.

Further examples of ontological questions include:

    * What is existence?
    * Is existence a property?
    * Which entities, if any, are fundamental?
    * How do the properties of an object relate to the object itself?
    * What features are the essential, as opposed to merely accidental, attributes of a given object?
    * How many levels of existence or ontological levels are there?
    * What is a physical object?
    * Can one give an account of what it means to say that a physical object exists?
    * Can one give an account of what it means to say that a non-physical entity exists?
    * What constitutes the identity of an object?
    * When does an object go out of existence, as opposed to merely changing?
    * Why does Rapaire have to be that way?

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Ed T
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 11:28 AM

Does that mean that "the self-identified, wise and nobled" Rapaire thinking will not likely rule the world....as we know it now?

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Ed T
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 11:18 AM

What about the medical caution:"When using oregano essential oil to be sure that its primary component is carvacrol and not thymol".
http://www.answers.com/topic/oregano-essential-oil

"the oil should be used with caution, as it can be irritating to the mucous membranes"

http://intelegen.com/ImmuneSystem/oregano_oil.htm

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 11:03 AM

The generous and noble Rapaire will let someone else cop the hundred.

Oops....

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 10:52 AM

Add sulphur to that molasses, says the wise and noble Rapaire.

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Ed T
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 10:44 AM

Too much cider, inside her insides?

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 10:34 AM

Try oil of oregano. Brush teeth and tongue thorougly first and rinse your mouth out. Then put about 4 drops of oil of oregano on your tongue and swish it all around in your mouth. It tastes like liquid fire, and the germs don't like it. You may not like it either, but put up with it anyway, because it really works. Don't bother spitting it out. Just keep swishing it around in your mouth with the saliva, and eventually swallow it. Very good to combat a cold of any kind, I find.

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 11 Nov 09 - 10:24 AM

OK, lady. Apple cider vinegar and black-strap molasses and back to bed witchoo!! No TV either!



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