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Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?

Allan C. 06 May 03 - 07:37 AM
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Subject: Lyr Req: How Many Miles To Dublin Town?
From: Allan C.
Date: 06 May 03 - 07:37 AM

I recently saw yet another film (not the one cited next) in which snatches of the "Dublin" song listed here was sung. While I know that the original "Babylon" or "Glesca-Lea" source lyrics can be found here in the DT, I am curious to know the words to the "Dublin" version. Does anybody have them?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles To Dublin Town?
From: Jimmy C
Date: 06 May 03 - 10:03 AM

I remember ths movie but do not know all the words to the song. I believe part of it went
Click, Click my little horse
Click, Click again sir
How many miles to Dublin Town
Three Score and Ten Sir
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles To Dublin Town?
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 07 May 03 - 05:19 AM

depends on where you start from!
But I would not start from here.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles To Dublin Town?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 08 May 03 - 08:21 AM

According to this page, "How Many Miles to Dublin Town" was also included in the 1938 film, "In Old Chicago," starring Alice Faye, Tyrone Power, and Don Ameche.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles To Dublin Town?
From: GUEST,NH Dave
Date: 08 May 03 - 08:52 AM

I believe the song was also in The Boy With Green Hair , starring, among others, Pat O'Brien and a very young Dean Stockwell.

Dave


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Subject: DTADD: How Many Miles To London Town?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 May 03 - 06:32 PM

Folk Songs of Old New England has this:

HOW MANY MILES TO LONDON TOWN?

How many miles to Londom town?
Four-score and ten!
Can I get there by candle-light?
Yes! and back again!

Open the gate and let me pass!
Toll first you pay!
I have no gold, what shall I do?
Turn and go away.

The players form two lines, facing each other across a wide space. One player stands in the middle. At the end of the rhyme, the players run from side to side, and those caught by the one in the center must help catch the others until all are caught.

Is it a different version of the same song? There's a song called "How Many Miles to Beth-e-le-hem" in Ruth Crawford Seeger's American Folk Songs for Christmas but I can't find the blankety-blank book just now.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles To Dublin Town?
From: MartinRyan
Date: 08 May 03 - 07:06 PM

Sam Henry's Songs of the People has it as "How many Miles to Babyland?" with the following comments:
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Other titles: ".... Babylon (Bethlehem)?" The dialect pronunciation of the name of the word "Babyland" has led to its corruption to "Babylon", a meaningless title which spoils the theme.
_______________________________________

Huntingtons notes refer to other placenames - but no mention of Dublin.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles To Dublin Town?
From: GUEST,lewis
Date: 01 Oct 05 - 02:10 PM

Chip,chip, my little horse
Chip, chip, again sir.
How many miles to London town?
Four score and then some.

Chip, Chip, my little horse
Chip, chip, again sir.
Will I be home before it's dark?
There, back, and then some.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Aug 08 - 02:30 PM

As children my father (1916-1994) bounced us on his knee and sang:

Chub, chub, my little horse,
Chub, chub again.
How many miles to Dublin?
Three-score and ten.

Will we be there by candlelight?
Yes we will and back again.
Chub, chub, my little horse.
Chub, chub again.
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    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST,Jane
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 10:55 PM

My grandmother, who was from Moygara, County Sligo, used to sing to us (while bouncing us on her knee):

Up up little horsey,
Up up again.
How many miles to Dublin?
Three score ten.
Will we be there by candlelight?
Sure and back again,
So up up little horsey
Up up again.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: quokka
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 11:01 PM

My Dad,also from Sligo, used to sing this to us as well,while bouncing on his knee.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST,Susan McKenna
Date: 06 Nov 08 - 08:45 AM

My husband has told me that as a little boy, he was often bounced on the knee of his grandmother, Catherine Donohue McKenna's, born in Ireland, to the words of:
"Up, up little horsie, Up, up again,
How many miles to Dublin,
Three score and ten.
Will I be back by candlelight?
Yes, and back again."

My husband bounced our boys, now, 32 and 28, on his knees to the same rhyme.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 06 Nov 08 - 09:23 AM

A few years ago I went to the American Royal Livestock show and watched the Arabian horse competition. There I heard more than one rider encourage her horse with a funny little clicking of the tongue against the teeth.

(At my house, we call it the 'cat-feeding noise' for reasons which should be obvious.)

I am sure that the 'click, club or clip' words above are supposed to be this noise. Kids would love it!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: MartinRyan
Date: 06 Nov 08 - 02:15 PM

Getting flashbacks of hearing "Clip, clop, a chapallín" as a line in this one, as a child! "capallín" is, literally, a "little horse" or pony.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST,Lynka3
Date: 13 Nov 08 - 09:42 PM

My Mum sang it to me at night...

Chip Chip my little horse
Chip Chip again Sir
How many miles to Dublin Town
Four score and ten Sir

Chip Chip my little horse
Chip Chip again Sir
will I get ther for candle lighht
Yes, and back again Sir.

However, as 4 score and ten is 90 miles, that seemed a bit long so I wonder id four score shouldnt be three score?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Mar 09 - 06:41 PM

Chip chip my pony boy
And chip chip again sir,
How many miles to Dublin town?
Fore score and ten sir.

Will I be there by candlelight?
Yes, and back again sir.
Chip, chip my pony boy
And chip chip again sir.

My second generation Irish grandmother (who passed away at 94 years old; buried in "Good Luck Cemetery" on St. Patrick's Day, 2008), also sang this song while bouncing grandchildren and great-grandchildren on her knee. I miss her.


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Subject: Lyr Add: HOW MANY MILES TO BABYLON?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 16 Mar 09 - 07:53 AM

From Popular Rhymes of Scotland by Robert Chambers (London and Edinburgh: W. & R. Chambers, 1870):

HOW MANY MILES TO BABYLON?

Two boys, holding each other's hands, make their arms represent a gate. A number of the others approach.

Boys. How many miles to Babylon?
Gatekeepers. Threescore and ten.
Boys. Will we be there by candlelight?
Gatekeepers. Yes, and back again.
Boys. Open your gates and let us go through.
Gatekeepers. Not without a beck and a boo.
Boys. There's a beck, and there's a boo [beck and bow], Open your gates and let us go through.

All then pass under the uplifted arms of the two gatekeepers.

This is the simplest kind of game in which the inquiry as to the distance of Babylon occurs. In another of a more complicated kind, two boys, remarkable as good runners, and personating the king and queen of Cantelon, are placed between two doons or places of safety, at one of which a flock of other boys pitch themselves. The runners then come forward, and the following dialogue takes place between them and some member of the company, all of whom are considered as knights. The romantic nature of the language is very remarkable:

Knight. King and queen of Cantelon,
How many miles to Babylon?
King. Eight and eight, and other eight.
Knight. Will I get there by candlelight?
King. If your horse be good and your spurs be bright.
Knight. How mony men have ye?
King. Mae nor ye daur come and see.

The company then break forth and make for the opposite doon with all their might, and avoiding the two runners, who pursue and endeavour to catch as many as possible. On catching any, the runner places his hand upon their heads, when they are said to be taned, and are set aside. The game is repeated and continued till all are taned.

[p.s.: I would bet "Babylon" was corrupted to "Babyland" rather than the other way round. ?JD]


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Sep 09 - 09:33 PM

I learned,

Chip Chip, My little horse, Chip Chip Again sir

How many miles to Dublin town?

Fore score and ten sir.

Chip Chip my little horse, Chip, Chip, Again Sir

While I be there before the dawn, there and back again sir..

We're 1st, 2nd and 3rd generation Irish as well.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 13 Nov 09 - 08:36 PM

Wow! I actually googled the words hoping to find another verse, but I guess there isn't one. Good to see the variants - my dad and his - also Irish - would bounce us as children on his knee and sing:

Chip, chip, my little horse.
Chip, chip, again sir.
How many miles to London town?
Four score and ten, sir.

Chip, chip, my little horse.
Chip, chip, again sir!
Will I get there by candle light?
You can, and back again, sir!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST,Anton O' Fiaic
Date: 17 Feb 10 - 10:41 AM

My version:

Clip, Clop, little horse,
Clip, Clop again sir.
How many miles to Dublin,
three score and ten sir.

Will we be there by candlelight,
yes and back again sir
Clip, Clop, little horse,
Clip, Clop, again sir.

P.S. Irish born (1943) & raised, this is the verse my Father sang.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST,Trevor
Date: 05 Mar 10 - 12:32 PM

The Movie "The Boy With Green Hair" from 1948 has this song as the finale,
Chip, chip, my little horse.
Chip, chip, again sir.
How many miles to London town?
Four score and ten, sir.

Chip, chip, my little horse.
Chip, chip, again sir!
Will I get there by candle light?
You can, and back again, sir!
Then it repeated I think I don't have TiVo so I could not rewind to be !00%, besides that's Hollywood not Ireland.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST,Sheree
Date: 05 Mar 10 - 12:53 PM

I know I am answering this late however I just this minute finished watching Th Boy With The Green Hair and it does NOT say how many miles to London Town but it does say how many miles it Dubin Townm. The song was sang by Dean Stockwell and the ever so very Irish Pat O' Brien who often inserted little Irish tunes in his movies.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST,P. Cameron
Date: 21 Mar 10 - 12:21 PM

Chip, chip my little horse, chip chip again sir; How many miles to Dublin town? Four score and ten, sir. Chip chip my little horse, chip chip again sir; Can I get there by candle light? Aye ye can,and back, sir


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST,Meeping Chocolate
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 02:08 AM

I learned it a tad differently, but I only saw "The Boy With Green Hair" once, so I probably wouldn't know. Anyway:

Chip, Chip, my little horse,
Chip, Chip again,sir,
How many miles to Dublin town?
Four score and ten, sir.

Chip, Chip, my little horse.
Chip, Chip, again sir.
Can we make it by candle light?
There and back again sir.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 04:07 AM

My mom bounced many babies including her own on her knee to this rhyme. She was born in Belfast in 1944 and sadly passed away here in Canada last November (2009).

Her version was:

Chip Chip my little horse
Chip Chip Again sir
How many miles to Dublin town,
Four score and ten sir

Chip Chip my little horse
Chip Chip again sir
Can I get there by candelight
You can and back again sir

I miss her so much, but I can hear her singing with me, when I bounce my son on my knee ... love u mom


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jul 10 - 01:42 PM

My grandparents from County Sligo and Cavan sang this song to my dad, and he sang it to me. I have bounced my children and grandchildren on my knee or foot to this song. One of the joys of my life has been to see the twinkles in their little eyes and smiles on their face as they bounced to the rhythm of the song.

I sing:
Chip Chip my little horse
Chip Chip Again sir
How many miles to Dublin town,
Four score and ten sir

Chip Chip my little horse
Chip Chip again sir
Can I get there by candelight
You can and back again sir

It is good to see that so many others share this simple joy.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 09:33 AM

My Dad sings to my son bouncing him on his knee

Chock Chock my little horse
Chock Chock again
How many miles to Dublin,
Three score and ten

Will I be there for candlelight
Yes and back again
with your Chock Chock a
little horse Chock Chock again


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie
Date: 04 Feb 11 - 08:13 AM

According to google maps, it is 276 miles to include the Holyhead ferry.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST,CAEREN
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 04:27 PM

FOUR SCORE AND TEN SIR, WILL I BE THERE BY CANDLE LIGHT, YOU WILL AND BACK AGAIN SIR


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST,mick
Date: 27 Mar 12 - 08:02 AM

i vaguely remember a film darby o'gill and the little people when the wee man was in the horse's ear was a while back because a very young sean connery was in it


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 10:07 PM

This is what my Granny (Irish born and raised) and my mother sang to me when I was a baby:

Hub Hub a little horse
Hub Hub again
How many miles to Dublin town?
Six score and ten
Will I be there by candle light?
Yes, and back again
Hub Hub a little horse
Hub Hub again


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST,Guest Sandi
Date: 25 Jul 14 - 03:41 PM

I saw Boy with Green Hair as an 8 year old in 1948, learned the song on the spot and have been looking for more verses ever since. Since it seems there are none, I will teach it with an additional verse inserting London for Dublin and changing from 4 score and ten sir to 3 score and ten sir in the second verse I am making up-just to make it a little longer. It's a great little folk song. I guess one could make it any length and insert lots of different towns, including one's one home town, etc. That's the neat thing about traditional folk music.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST,#
Date: 25 Jul 14 - 03:49 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6XyB7WZXgg

YouTube strikes again.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST,Geoff Middleton
Date: 10 May 15 - 11:05 PM

My Lancashire Grandma used to sing this:

Chip chip my little man
Chip chip again sir
Is this the way to London Town?
Aye and back again sir

Chip chip my little man
Chip chip again sir
Can I get there by candlelight?
Aye and back again sir

She would finish by saying:
My tale's ended, my back's bended
Go to the next door and you'll soon get it mended.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: Thompson
Date: 11 May 15 - 03:15 AM

We sang "Giup, giup a chapallaín" - (pronounced Jiup - and presumably a fast way of saying "Gee up".)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: Bugsy
Date: 11 May 15 - 08:00 AM

My dad used to sing whilst bouncing us on his leg (Crossed legged)

How many miles to Banbury Cross?
Three score and ten sir
Can I get there by candle light?
Yes, and back again sir
If your feet are nimble and light
You can get there by candlelight

Chip Chip my little horse
Chip Chip again sir
Chip Chip my little horse
There and back again sir.


Cheers

Bugsy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: How Many Miles to Dublin Town?
From: GUEST,Colette
Date: 24 Sep 17 - 12:12 PM

For some bizarre reason this song has been going around in my head for day now. My dad would let us climb on his knee while he sang this over and over...he could never do it enough, for us and we would plead again and again and he would always oblige. He was from co. Carlow.


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