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BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated

GUEST,Sorcha 08 May 03 - 10:59 PM
GUEST,Sorch again 08 May 03 - 11:01 PM
Ebbie 08 May 03 - 11:13 PM
Jeri 08 May 03 - 11:17 PM
Tweed 08 May 03 - 11:24 PM
GUEST,Sorch again 08 May 03 - 11:28 PM
artbrooks 08 May 03 - 11:48 PM
katlaughing 09 May 03 - 12:35 AM
GUEST,Meself 09 May 03 - 12:38 AM
katlaughing 09 May 03 - 12:40 AM
GUEST,Me again 09 May 03 - 12:46 AM
GUEST,.gargoyle 09 May 03 - 12:51 AM
GUEST,Sorch 09 May 03 - 12:56 AM
GUEST 09 May 03 - 01:02 AM
katlaughing 09 May 03 - 01:05 AM
GUEST,.gargoyle 09 May 03 - 01:08 AM
GUEST,Sorch 09 May 03 - 01:15 AM
katlaughing 09 May 03 - 01:22 AM
GUEST,.garoyle 09 May 03 - 01:55 AM
GUEST,Sorch 09 May 03 - 02:09 AM
GUEST,Me 09 May 03 - 02:14 AM
GUEST,Sorch 09 May 03 - 02:42 AM
Liz the Squeak 09 May 03 - 03:21 AM
GUEST,Jon 09 May 03 - 05:57 AM
Jeri 09 May 03 - 08:11 AM
JohnInKansas 09 May 03 - 08:43 AM
Rapparee 09 May 03 - 08:43 AM
katlaughing 09 May 03 - 08:53 AM
Sorcha 09 May 03 - 12:15 PM
GUEST,Jon 09 May 03 - 04:54 PM
GUEST,.gargoyle 09 May 03 - 08:41 PM
GUEST,Jon 09 May 03 - 08:58 PM
katlaughing 09 May 03 - 10:21 PM
Sorcha 09 May 03 - 10:37 PM
Amos 10 May 03 - 12:21 AM
John MacKenzie 10 May 03 - 05:39 AM
kendall 10 May 03 - 06:11 AM
catspaw49 10 May 03 - 07:39 AM
fiddler 10 May 03 - 07:57 AM
JohnInKansas 10 May 03 - 08:22 AM
CraigS 10 May 03 - 10:44 AM

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Subject: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: GUEST,Sorcha
Date: 08 May 03 - 10:59 PM

Since about 3PM Mudcat time today, I have only been able to get in on http://207.103.108.105/threads.cfm and I can't seem to set a cookie there; the log in page is Error 404, as are Org, Zappa and Help. Jon says it's probably my server ISP, but what the divil is going on? Anybody else have this problem?


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: GUEST,Sorch again
Date: 08 May 03 - 11:01 PM

Oh yea, would have posted this on Help forum, but I can't get there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 May 03 - 11:13 PM

No problem here, thank the gods.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: Jeri
Date: 08 May 03 - 11:17 PM

If the IP number works, but the same server does NOT work when you use the name (www.mudcat.org IS http://207.103.108.105), it probably IS your ISP. Folks who know more than me: is this the 'domain registry'?


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: Tweed
Date: 08 May 03 - 11:24 PM

Sorchy, I must really complain.....you hab postered this in the hellish BS Snakepit section when clearly this is not a BS thread! I am stunned insensible by yore sand!

Yores,
Tweed
PS. No problem getting in from Florida.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: GUEST,Sorch again
Date: 08 May 03 - 11:28 PM

LOL, Tweed, so solly. Tried to click the Help button from where I can get in, no joy. Figgerd it was "non moosik" so did the BS. I'll leave it for the Clones to sort, but Iz pritty pissed at my ISP if they are dooing this to me! Will call tomorrer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: artbrooks
Date: 08 May 03 - 11:48 PM

Sorch, however you can get here, please do, because we all love you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 May 03 - 12:35 AM

I wondered after you called because i had no problem getting in. Have you checked your Content Settings?


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: GUEST,Meself
Date: 09 May 03 - 12:38 AM

Hmmm, no, will do, but haven't changed them. Only thing I changed today was my outgoing e mail server. Changed it from communicomm.com to net commander and it seems as if I can now e mail JenElle. At least, the e mail I sent her has not bounced. Will check content settings.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 May 03 - 12:40 AM

Yeah, sometimes my content settings get changed through some weird imp in the machine and i have to go in and turn off the nanny crap.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: GUEST,Me again
Date: 09 May 03 - 12:46 AM

OK, I used to know how to do this, can't find it now, tell me how? More frustrated by the minute.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 09 May 03 - 12:51 AM

You two Wyoming wonders are a real trip!

They should have required licences before letting you two ... weave up the on-ramp of Al Gore's Information-Super-Hiway.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Where are your husbands? Don't they know jack-squat about bull-diddly?


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: GUEST,Sorch
Date: 09 May 03 - 12:56 AM

Also, when I hit the refresh button on this page it works,but when I try the Lyrics and Knowledge (for the home forum) I get Error 404 again.........when I hit any button on the MC tool bar, that is what I get.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: GUEST
Date: 09 May 03 - 01:02 AM

!!!VIRUS ALERT!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 May 03 - 01:05 AM

Tools > Internet Options > Content >Content Advisor should be disabled. Don't know about the rest of it.

I see Mudcat's own Resident Pop-up is wasting bandwith with non-constructive gutterspewing again. Ho-hum. Gotch yer new Pop-up Killer handy?


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 09 May 03 - 01:08 AM

Look chicky chick
Rest a little bit
Have a brew
Make it two

Then drop by my friend's page and chuckle over your 404.

http://www.plinko.net/404/tribute.asp

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: GUEST,Sorch
Date: 09 May 03 - 01:15 AM

Didn't help......tried both enabled at the max level and disabled. Still can't get in on org. just the ISP number. E mailed Jeff. Call ISP tomorrow. What pop up? Ain't no pop ups on Mudcat.........grin.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 May 03 - 01:22 AM

Gosh, back to leaving love notes!

Good luck tomorrow, Sorch!


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: GUEST,.garoyle
Date: 09 May 03 - 01:55 AM

You didn't go to plinko.



Sincerely,

Gargoyle



Try the link - you might learn something and have a laugh also.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: GUEST,Sorch
Date: 09 May 03 - 02:09 AM

Well.just did the updates reccomeneded by my ISP, didn't help.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: GUEST,Me
Date: 09 May 03 - 02:14 AM

Was just told by a very rude person that if it is only this one site that is a problem, it is a Site prob, not a DNS/ISP prob. Don't believe that. First person i talked to was helpful, this one was not.Damme, this is pissing me off.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: GUEST,Sorch
Date: 09 May 03 - 02:42 AM

Well, I deleted the shortcut icon and added the ISP# icon,didn't help. Now, when I try to click the Help Forum icon, I get some weird MS search results page............aaaaaarrrrgghhhh. I'm going to bed for tonight. Will try again tomorrow.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 09 May 03 - 03:21 AM

Well that explains a lot.....

Go placidly to the screen.

Smack it upside the buttons.

It won't do any good but it will make you feel better and give you a reason for it being broken.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 09 May 03 - 05:57 AM

sorcha, try opening up an MSDOS promt/Command prompt and type in

ping www.mudcat.org

And press return. You should see something like:

Pinging mudcat.org [207.103.108.105] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 207.103.108.105: bytes=32 time=281ms TTL=115

But with your problem, you will probably get a message something like "unknown host".


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: Jeri
Date: 09 May 03 - 08:11 AM

I had this problem at work once, although not with Mudcat. I'm not an expert, so this is is 50% out of my arse. I don't think anything's wrong with what I'm saying although I may be simplistic in both ideas and vocabulary.

If you can get to the website by using the IP number but not the www address, it's a problem with the domain name registration.

Could be at the website's end - they fail to register it or it lapses or something. Since everybody else is getting in, that's not what happened.

Servers periodically get this registry. If it gets buggered in some way, your ISP will not know where to find 'www.mudcat.org' - the address isn't connected to the IP number, which is what it uses.

The problem with setting a cookie using the IP address is because of the way Mudcat sets and reads cookies, which is also a number/name problem.

My guess is the problem will eventually correct itself when your ISP gets the latest registry. In the meantime, you can tell 'em THEIR SERVER isn't connecting the domain name with the relevant IP number and no one else posting here has this problem so it's GOT to be them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 09 May 03 - 08:43 AM

Sorcha -

You mention changing outgoing email service. Do we assume that you did not change your ISP for general web connection?

I don't have WinME to look at for details, but my O'Reilly Guide to - suggests a conflict between the new email server setup and your ISP. The quick check would be to turn OFF email temporarily and then disconnect/reconnect to your ISP without email and see if things work better.

If your new email connection is set up to "Always connect" you may have to diddle with the connection setup to turn it off completely. (Just closing your email program may not shut down the email connection, but you could try that first.) "Taking out" the most recent change(s) is one of those "golden rules" of troubleshooting, and there is a "speculatively plausible" reason why this might work.

Just turning off the email program is not likely to help by itself. You need to re-establish the connection to your ISP after you've "broken" the email connection to be sure you've isolated the problem.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 May 03 - 08:43 AM

It's the DNS (domain name service) server. Probably never had anyone connect to the 'Cat before and therefore didn't have the IP/domain name connection loaded. It *should* pick up the connection from other servers at some point, but that could take awhile.

Interesting week here, Sorcha -- I'll PM you about it tomorrow.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 May 03 - 08:53 AM

garg: thanks for the smile, darlin'...last night


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: Sorcha
Date: 09 May 03 - 12:15 PM

Well, I finally got it sorted. An hour on phone with local Geek, he couldn't help, 2 hrs on phone with ISP Help line. It was his challenge for the day. We did a lot of stuff, and finally fixed it, but even he didn't know what we did that worked. Thanks for trying to help.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 09 May 03 - 04:54 PM

sorcha, perhaps it was just co-incidence that it came back when it did...

As you probably have noticed, I changed the location of the annexe as a temporary measure because of a similar sounding problem. Neither Pip or I could access jonbanjo.com using freeserve on our computers. I could however access it using an alternative dial up account.

The problem was there for a few days and then resolved itself. There was no change of configuration on either computer during that period. I can only assume that freeserve for reasons unkown (there was no question of a domain name expiring) to me lost the DNS details for jonbanjo.com during one update and getting re-instated on another.

John, one problem I have had with email is that Outlook Express caches IP addresses. We went through a server change at jonbanjo.com. I set the new email accounts up with new passwords thinking that when the DNS changes went through, my old passwords would get rejected. As it happened, this box managed to run about 3 weeks without me rebooting. It was only after that reboot that I got the old passwords rejected (I guess the old account on the other server must still have existed), I changed them and then got a load of email including payment due followed by a late payment notice from the ISP I use for web hosting. I emailed them apologising and explaining why the payment had been late and they replied that I wasn't the only customer who had got caught out by the behaviour of OE.

I did find a plus side to OEs ways with the Annexe problem mentioned above BTW. Even though freeserve refused to recognise jonbanjo.com, I realised that all I had to do was close IE, connect using my "emergency" (and pay per minute) ISP, open OE, and check my emails. Once done, I could close that connection and dial up on my flat monthly rate 24/7 connection.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 09 May 03 - 08:41 PM

Sorcha sorry to break the news to you.

The mudcat has begun to block access went posting limits from a single, abusive internet address are exceeded in a 24 hour period.

Cut back the chatter, move it into PM's and you will be ok 24/7.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

To you, it may seem cruel - but something must be done, your've destroyed the fun, it looks like an over-run by fools.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 09 May 03 - 08:58 PM

Pale Yellow is your colour, Greg?


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 May 03 - 10:21 PM

Hahaha! That's rich coming from a fellah who won't even use his own PMs!

It's got a green stripe down it, too, Jon!


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: Sorcha
Date: 09 May 03 - 10:37 PM

Did someone say something??? If so, I missed it. Who's talking at me?


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: Amos
Date: 10 May 03 - 12:21 AM

'Twas but the lonely, lonely wind that sighs....


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 10 May 03 - 05:39 AM

The moving finger writes, and having written, pisses off.
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: kendall
Date: 10 May 03 - 06:11 AM

Can't we all just get along?


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: catspaw49
Date: 10 May 03 - 07:39 AM

Only if you're a little dogie.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: fiddler
Date: 10 May 03 - 07:57 AM

Hmm..... there is a problem with IEv 6 where the (last but one I think) patch means it will not connect to all sites all the time, also won't work properly on all sites all teh time but will on some (all) sites some of the time!!

I spent two days discovering this un admitted bug in the MSh*tE system.

So the problem may re occur I hope it doesn't missed you!!!!

A
XX


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 10 May 03 - 08:22 AM

fiddler -

The only thing similar to what you describe that I've seen is that some of the recent updates on IE6 slightly changed the response to cookies for particular levels of the "privacy" settings. I have had to "allow cookies" on a per-site basis for a few places that I used to get into without any special actions.

Some sites won't connect if you "refuse" their cookies, and the updated IE6 seems to refuse a lot more of them - at the same "privacy level" setting. Click the "Tools" button, "Internet Options," select the "Privacy" tab, and click the "Edit" box to tell IE that it's okay to take a cookie, and you'll probably find the sites work ok.

(You'll have to decide whether you want to take the cookies.)

I'll watch the bug reports, but so far I haven't seen any feedback on other common "site-specific" problems due to the updates.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha is Ver' Frustrated
From: CraigS
Date: 10 May 03 - 10:44 AM

Should've repainted the fiddle and put the banjo in the dumpster - makes me feel better, anyway.


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