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ACKABAKA
GREEN GREEN ROCKY ROAD


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Subject: Lyr Req: PLease help 'Hucka CHucka soda cracka'?'
From: GUEST,Matt - mmonty7@yahoo.com
Date: 10 May 03 - 01:18 AM

Please I remember when I was aobut 10 I was at festival with family, and I heard this song. Who is it, I can't seem to find it anywhere.
Looking forward to all responses. Please
Send them to me at mmonty@yahoo.com


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: PLease help 'Hucka CHucka soda cracka'?'
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 10 May 03 - 04:07 AM

The song you want is probably Green Green Rocky Road, and if you click on that link it'll take you to the lyrics in the Digital Tradition database. Dave Van Ronk did a memorable version of this song. I heard him do it at the Main Point in Bryn Mawr, near Philadelphia, some time in the early 70's.

If you put "Green Green Rocky Road" into the search box at the top of the page, you'll find a host of threads on which this song was discussed. Welcome to the Mudcat!

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: Lyr Req: PLease help 'Hucka CHucka soda cracka'
From: JJ
Date: 10 May 03 - 08:41 AM

This sounds more to me like Judy Henske's "Hooka Tooka." Also done by Chubby Checker.

hooka tooka my soda cracker
does your momma chaw tobacca
if ya momma chaw tobacca,say
hooka tooka my soda cracker


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: PLease help 'Hucka CHucka soda cracka'?'
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 May 03 - 08:49 AM

Yes, and Hooka Tooka can also be sung to Arlo's motorciccle song.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: PLease help 'Hucka CHucka soda cracka'?'
From: Sorcha
Date: 10 May 03 - 01:21 PM

e mail sent


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Subject: ADD: Hooka Tooka (Chubby Checker/Henske)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 May 03 - 01:47 PM

Here's the Chubby Checker song. I found it at This Chubby Checker Site. Note that Frank's Oldies credits the song to "Evans/Judy Henske."
-Joe Offer-


HOOKA TOOKA
Chubby Checker
(Evans [Chubby Checker] - Mazer)

Hooka Tooka my soda cracker
Does your momma chaw tobacca
If ya momma chaw tobacca,say
Hooka Tooka my soda cracker

Hooka Tooka my soda cracker
Does your momma chaw tobacca
If ya momma chaw tobacca,say
Hooka Tooka my soda cracker

Who your love, Who your love I say
You know I love my mother-in-law
If your love momma like you say
Why can't momma chaw
Everybody yup
Hooka Tooka my soda cracker
Does your momma chaw tobacca
If ya momma chaw tobacca,say
Hooka Tooka my soda cracker

Momma loves momma loves you all
And you know I'm her son-in-law
If you love me like you say you do
Chaw tobacca too

Hey Ar
Hooka Tooka my soda cracker
Does your momma chaw tobacca
If ya momma chaw tobacca,say
Hooka Tooka my soda cracker
Hooka Tooka my soda cracker
Hooka Tooka my soda cracker...fade


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Subject: DTADD Version: Green Green Rocky Road
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 May 03 - 02:25 PM

I found the Henske arrangement - it's on her self-titled album, released on Elektra in 1963 and recently reissued on CD. She calls it "Hooka Tooka," and says it's traditional, arranged by Henske. It has elements of the Chubby checker version I posted above, and elements from the "Green Rocky Road" version in the Digital Tradition (see links above).
On the Website of The McGarrigles I found this transcript from The McGarrigle Hour, which is even closer to the Henske version.
-Joe Offer


GREEN GREEN ROCKY ROAD
P.D. Arrangement: K & A McGarrigle, Garden Court Music ASCAP

When I go to baltimore
Got no carpet on my floor
Please get up and follow me
We'll go down in history

Green green rocky road
Promenade in green
Tell me who d'you love
Tell me who d'you love

See that crow up in the sky
He don't sing neither can he fly
He can't walk nor can he run
He's black paint splattered on the sun

Green green etc...


(Full break (verse and chorus))

Little miss jane runnin' to the ball
Don't you stumble don't you fall
Don't you scream and don't you shout
When I sing come runnin' out

Green green etc...

Hooka tooka soda cracker
Does your mama chew tobacco
If your mama chew tobacco
Hooka tooka soda cracker

Green green etc....

When I go to baltimore
Got no carpet on my floor
Please get up and follow me
'We'll go down in history

Green green......


I also found this (click), which purports to be the Emmylou Harris arrangement of the song, using only the "D" chord. It's from the McGarrigle Hour recording. Now I'll have to watch the McGarrigles and see who sings what - and what chord(s) they play.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Please help 'Hucka Chucka soda cracka'?'
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Nov 05 - 02:09 AM

This is a wonderful tune that a folklorist/writer named Harold Courlander obtained from a group of Schoolchildren in alabama. He then gave it to A poet named Robert kaufman who gave it to Dave Van Ronk if I'm not mistaken. This was before Emmylou and Chubby and all them. I love the song. But I can't figure out what on earth it is about. Any ideas.

   On another thread someone said they saw in a book somewhere the actual spiritual that Green Green Rocky Road derived from. Anybody else got any info on this? Im dying to know what this song is about!
Cheers,
      John


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Please help 'Hucka Chucka soda cracka'?'
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 21 Nov 05 - 03:35 AM

The way Fred Campeau sings it, it sounds like "Hoonga Doonga".

Stephen Lee


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Please help 'Hucka Chucka soda cracka
From: rumgumption
Date: 21 Nov 05 - 11:02 AM

I see that "Ackabacka" is listed at the top of this thread. First thing that came to my mind when I saw the thread title was the version that goes like this:

My mother, your mother live across the way.
Every night they have a fight and this is what they say:
'Icka backa soda cracker, icka backa boo.
Icka backa soda cracker, out goes you!'

(Jumprope/counting out game.) I don't know of any recordings of it; always thought it was strictly children's oral tradition.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Please help 'Hucka Chucka soda cracka'?'
From: Azizi
Date: 21 Nov 05 - 04:14 PM

In 2002 my daughter, a 2nd grade teacher in Pittsburgh, Penn, gave an assignment to her students to recite "choosing it" ["counting out"] rhymes. She taped their oral presentations and later played the tape so that the students could hear themselves.

Knowing my interest in children's rhymes, my daughter played the tape for me, and I transcribed it. One boy recited a rhyme that begins with the "icka backa" portion:

Icka backa soda cracker
Icka backa boo.
In comes out.
And out goes you!

-snip-

Btw, all of these students are African Americans.

"Icka" is pronounced "EYE-kah". "Backa" is pronounced
"BAH-kah". "Cracker" is pronounced to rhyme with "Icka" and "backa."

In 2004, I observed another boy from the same school using this rhyme to choose two team captains. The boy was selected by a supervising adult because he was the first child to raise his hand.

The girls & boys huddled around the boy and stretched out their right foot. The other children remained silent as the boy recited the rhyme.
With each word of the rhyme he tapped a different child's foot.
The child whose foot was tapped on the word "you" was out. This process continued from the beginning until one child was left. This child was a captain of a team. The process started again to select the 2nd team captain.

Once the captains were picked, they took turns selecting a member of their team. Team members were selected by calling out the name of a child. Of course, in races, the fastest children get picked first.
And in tug of wars the strongest children get picked first.

If the game is played a second time, one way to boost the self-esteem of the two children who are picked last, is to have them serve as the new team captains.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Please help 'Hucka Chucka soda cracka'?'
From: Cool Beans
Date: 21 Nov 05 - 04:17 PM

The story they told when I first heard the Henske version in the 1960s was that kids sang "Hooka Tooka.." to warn the neighborhod prostitutes that the cops wee coming. The singing, not the lyrics, was the warning; it just sounded like a kids' nonsense rhyme.
As to why kids wanted to warn the hookas that the cops were coming...I couldn't say. Other than a natural dislike for authority. I do not know if the story is true but it made a good intro to the song.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Please help 'Hucka Chucka soda cracka'?'
From: Azizi
Date: 21 Nov 05 - 07:20 PM

Possible thread drift:

The "my mother and your mother fighting" verse can also be found in versions of this handclap children's rhyme:

my mother your motha
live down da street
18, 19 marble street
and evry nite
dey had a fite
and dis is wat dey told me

girls are sexy drink lots of pepsi
boys are rotten chew on sum cotten
ishy wishy lollypop
ishy wishy woo
ishy wishy lollypop
da guyz luv YOU

Source: http://octopuses.chaoticinsanity.com/000518.php
{posted by Duilz at October 28, 2004; used with permission}

I suppose the lines about the mothers living on the same streeet and fighting is a floating verse and has no [other] connection with the Ackabaca rhyme.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Please help 'Hucka Chucka soda cracka
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 21 Nov 05 - 10:56 PM

I remember seeing Judy Henske doing the song on the old Hootenany show as a kid.

Henske had played with Dave Guard in the Whiskeyhill Singers for one album after Guard left the Kingston Trio.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Please help 'Hucka Chucka soda cracka'?'
From: Barry Finn
Date: 22 Nov 05 - 12:52 AM

Harold Courlander has it like this in his 'Negro Folk Music, USA' as a ring game or a playparty song.


Green, Green Rocky Road
Some Lady's green rocky road
Tell me who you love, rocky road
Tell me who you love, rocky road

Dear Miss Minnie your name's names been called
Come take a seat beside the wall
Give her a kiss & let her go
She'll never sit in that chair no more.

Barry


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Please help 'Hucka Chucka soda cracka
From: GUEST,Bailey
Date: 05 May 08 - 04:28 AM

Were you thinking of "Icka Backa Soda Cracka"?

Icka Backa Soda Cracka
Icka Backa Boo!
BOO!

Judy had a sweetheart
who lived across the way,
And when they'd meet upon the street,
he'd always stop and say

Icka backa soda cracka,
She'd say icka backa boo
Icka backa soda cracka,
He'd say I choose you

One sad day he left her,
he moved quite far away
Poor Judy, lonesome Judy
hadn't anyone to say

Icka backa soda cracka,
There's no icka backa boo
Icka backa soda cracka,
No one chooses you

Sweetheart, oh my sweetheart
come back across the way
And every night the moon is bright
we'll meet again and say

Icka backa soda cracka,
You'll say icka backa boo
Icka backa soda cracka,
I'll say I love you

Icka backa backa boo
well soda cracka I love you

Icka backa soda cracka
Icka backa boo!
BOO!
------------------

I actually have a recording of this song, email me at

silvertabbed [at] yahoo.com


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Please help 'Hucka Chucka soda cracka'?'
From: EBarnacle
Date: 05 May 08 - 09:51 AM

Hoonga Doonga is from the Marx Brothers.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Please help 'Hucka Chucka soda cracka'?'
From: M.Ted
Date: 05 May 08 - 10:49 AM

If you want to hear it, here it is: Chubby Checker's 1963 Hit Recording of "Hooka Tooka"

This recording is a real "hoot"-- a mainstream R&B artist singing in the 50s/60's "Hootenanny" style. In the middle 80's, kids at my daughter's South Philly playground were still were singing "Icka Backa Soda Cracka" , so one is inclined to think that Ernest Evans grew up with it--


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Please help 'Hucka Chucka soda cracka
From: balladeer
Date: 06 May 08 - 02:06 PM

I have associated this song with Len Chandler since sometime before 1964. I am under the impression it was Len who created the song Green Green Rocky Road, and that he based on the rhyme in the Courlander book.
If there's any interest in this direction, I will post the words as I remember them. Len taught the song to me back then and I sang it for many years, but so long ago ....


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Please help 'Hucka Chucka soda cracka'?'
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 15 Aug 08 - 01:27 PM

You are right - it was Chubby Checker and we sang it in college in the 60's. I'm glad to relive the memories as I have been thinking about the line "does your mama chaw tobacco" for a week now, and couldn't remember the rest of the refrain.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Please help 'Hucka Chucka soda cracka
From: GUEST,Camper Ted
Date: 30 Mar 10 - 10:14 AM

Does anyone have the music or chords to "Hooka Tooka?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Please help 'Hucka Chucka soda cracka
From: Mark Ross
Date: 30 Mar 10 - 12:18 PM

There is a recording of the original children's game(collected by Courlander)on the Elektra/Folkways FOLK BOX.


Mark Ross


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Please help 'Hucka Chucka soda cracka
From: GUEST,shool
Date: 05 May 10 - 01:07 PM

I am looking for a recording that combines Green Green Rocky Road and Hooka Tooka My Soda Cracker (which is how I learned it/them. Anyone know if there is a recording out there somewhere?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Please help 'Hucka Chucka soda cracka'?'
From: GUEST,rick
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 12:42 PM

i heard this with the "icka backa" or "hucka chucka" sung as, "ooh paducah". but where and from who did i hear it? i think it was an alternate lyric from dave van ronk


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