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Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)

Dave Bryant 12 May 03 - 05:27 AM
Richard Bridge 12 May 03 - 07:41 AM
GUEST,Essex Girl 13 May 03 - 06:22 AM
Steve Parkes 13 May 03 - 10:39 AM
Richard Bridge 13 May 03 - 12:00 PM
GUEST,Bob Bradley 13 May 03 - 01:18 PM
Richard Bridge 13 May 03 - 09:12 PM
Dave Bryant 14 May 03 - 04:26 AM
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Richard Bridge 15 May 03 - 03:55 AM
GUEST,Andy Castellari 15 May 03 - 06:14 PM
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Subject: Obit: Jaqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 12 May 03 - 05:27 AM

Linda and I were deeply saddened and shocked to hear of the death of Jacqui Walker, the long term partner of Mudcatter Richard Bridge.
Richard has sent the following e-mails.

Sun, 11 May 2003 15:53:51 +0100

Jacqui is in intensive care at Medway hospital and the prognosis is not good. It is likely to be some days before there is any change for better or worse.


Mon, 12 May 2003 08:09:28 +0100

I am sorry to tell you that Jacqui died at 6 pm yesterday.
Those of you who are folkies, there is likely to be a folk-wake (sad songs, and black clothes are banned at Jacqui's request).


I first met Jacqui and Richard many years ago, there was then quite an interval before Linda and I got to know them again, a couple of years ago.

Jacqui and Richard used to organise Hazlitt Folk in Maidstone, and were also involved with a regular session at "The Canopus" near Rochester. Although we unfortunately missed it, we've heard great reviews of the session which they hosted at the Rochester "Sweeps" Festival only a couple of weeks ago. Jacqui and Richard were quite a formidable vocal duo, with Jacqui playing both guitar and recorder.

Jacqui was obviously also a great support to Richard in his campaigns against both the new PEL laws and also the airport planned for the Isle of Grain, where they lived.

Linda and I send our deepest sympathies to Richard and the family, Jacqui will be sadly missed by everyone who knew her.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 12 May 03 - 07:41 AM

I'll try to put a history together in early course.

Jacqui sang semi-pro with the Chapmen and the Drovers, and was closely connected to the Crayfolk, in the 60s. She knew that 60s folk scene well and ran or co-ran or residented at a number of clubs.

Some of you may remember my posts when she had a gall-bladder operation just at the turn of the millennium

The medical history of the week is rather shocking and I can't go over it just at the moment.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: GUEST,Essex Girl
Date: 13 May 03 - 06:22 AM

Richard, I was both shocked and sad to hear about Jacqui. I had no idea she was so ill. Please accept my deepest sympathies for yourself and family. Linda


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 13 May 03 - 10:39 AM

Richard: so sorry. My sympathy to you all, too.
Steve


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 13 May 03 - 12:00 PM

Thanks Essex Girl. She wasn't. She had emphysema, but it was not that bad yet. Medical errors killed her. Not being a medical negligence lawyer myself (copyright is my thing) I am currently searching for a good contingency medical negligence lawyer....


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: GUEST,Bob Bradley
Date: 13 May 03 - 01:18 PM

Dear Richard and family,
So sorry to hear your sad news. She'll be greatly missed. My first time at the Hazlitt, the first time I had sung in public Jacqui and you made me so welcome. All the best
    Bob


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 13 May 03 - 09:12 PM

Bob, email me on mclaw at btinternet dot com please, I had been trying to find your phone number to call you to tell you, and to make certain you were included in the wake plan.

If I don't make the Riverside at Horton Kirby Sunday can you please if you are there tell people and also tell them that there will be a folk wake and they should watch this space for detail?

Rachel and I will be at Hazlitt Folk (at the Old House at Home, Pudding Lane Maidstone, for kibitzers who may be interested) and will also sing (I/we plan to attempt a couple of Jacqui's songs) Thursday 15th and it is a charity evening for a charity to be selected by me as Jacqui's executor. Next week definites (maybe not including Rachel) include the Canopus, Hill Road, Rochester, Tuesday, and the Greyhound, Maidstone, Thursday. Possibles this week include Daz and Man's club at the Three Mariners, Near Rainham (Lower Road) Friday

Pete Hicks (Slattery and Skinner's Rats) has given me some details of Jacqui before I knew her, and I will need to reduce them to writing and check them with Barry her first husband (who was a killer blues player, made it as far as BBC Radio 2 and an invitation from a very well known psychedelic band to work with them which he did not accept and I hope to entice out of retirement for the wake) before posting.

Anyone who remembers her from Phoebus Wakes, The Drovers, the Chapmen, the West County tour with the Yetties, Nottingham Traditional Music CLub or anywhere else she residented or played, please PM or email me.

I am particularly keen to trace the middle years (her 20s)when she rubbed shoulders with Donovan, Long John Baldry, Rod Stewart, Hughie Flint, Dave and Toni Arthur, Ben Mayall (son of John Mayall) the late great Jo-Ann Kelly, etc and I think I am right threw Eric Burdon out of a party for pissiing down Donovan's leg. If you have stories of her (good or bad, I'll edit, and I know she was no saint) please PM or email me.

Some of the stuff may make a mini-feature in "What's On Folks" to be written by Simon Barlow who remembers seeing her play with the Chapmen in the early 60s, in Southampton.

Contact details for any other members of her early bands would also be good research material - for example Dave Cooper who was I think in the Chapmen and if my information is correct is now singing US-style sacred mouth music in the Nottingham (UK) area.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 14 May 03 - 04:26 AM

Breezy can probably remember some of the "Phoebus Awakes" (the Rising Sun, Catford) days - It's probably not a good idea to try and get in touch with Dave Cooper at the moment. Tony Dean of "Elsie's Band" was also around in those days.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: vectis
Date: 14 May 03 - 05:30 PM

Sorry to hear about the tragic death of Jacqui. I remember her from way back at the Phoebus in Catford.
Mary


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 May 03 - 03:55 AM

Thank you vectis.

Can you PM me your email address? I am going to do a short summary of her musical history as set out above. I already have some detail from Pete Hicks, and Barry her first husband has offered to check/add but I am looking for other input so I would like to email you with a draft when ready, for any input you can offer.

Possible date for wake (not final yet) Sat 31st May at the Canopus pub Hill Road Rochester Kent 6 pm, singing starts at 8, ends closing time. Watch this space for confirmation and detail.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: GUEST,Andy Castellari
Date: 15 May 03 - 06:14 PM

Richard,
I was very saddened to hear of Jacqui's death - my condolences go out to Jacqui and your families. It was a shock to hear the news after seeing you both at the Sweeps in the Gordon Hotel when you were having such as good time. I remember particularly a magical Sunday evening at the Fighting Cocks last year when you hosted the Folk Club in the bar instead of the restaurant. It was one of those perfect nights of playing, singing and that lovely feeling of being part of a community - a feeling that is so rare nowadays in our society.

I hope I can make it to one of the wakes - my e-mail is acastell@btinternet.com.
    Andy Castellari
    (mandolin player in the Riversiders)


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: GUEST,John Barden
Date: 17 May 03 - 02:17 PM

Terrible news.

So sorry to hear this on my return from abroad, and my heart goes out to you Richard, and to young Rachel. Jacqui will be sorely missed. Count me in for anything you want to do to commemorate her life.

John


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: GUEST,Jo Musto
Date: 17 May 03 - 02:44 PM

Hey John - don't forget about us! Mum also had another daughter (me) and our brother Dominic.

Richard will be mailing details of our "folk wake" very soon - hopefully see you there.

Kind regards and thanks for your support
Jo


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 20 May 03 - 02:13 AM

Others have told me that they wish to post here in memoriam but cannot find the thread. I am, therefore, refreshing it.

I should also be grateful if any UK (particularly South Eastern UK) Catters could tell me of any funeral directors who they know will carry out a funeral as required by the deceased, rahter than as one of one of the standard packages (complete with forced lines of extras).

Jacqui wanted the very minimum funerary arrangements possible - the simplest possible cremation, with no ceremony at all (the wake will be for that) and I want the ashes back to scatter. That's all. But all the funeral directors we have tried so far plan to charge at least £700 to get the body cremated and leave the ashes at the crematorium to be collected (plus, of course, the doctors, and crematorium fees). This is not what Jacqui wanted. I don't think I can handle a completely DIY arrangement (moving the coffin in my estate car). How do I get funeral directors to do less (and charge less) rather than more?

Finally (for the moment), the wake.

It is now definitely (barring an earthquake or similar) at 6 pm, music starts 8 pm and the Canopus (pub), Hill Road, Rochester, Kent. Food provided by the brewery (many thanks). No-host drinks. Pub not closed (folk is the music of the people) but signs on the doors to indicate it is a celebration of Jacqui's life, or similar. Keep watching here in case of changes.

I am still trying to collect stories of Jacqui's life in music.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: GUEST,John Barden
Date: 20 May 03 - 05:28 AM

Sorry Jo - in my haste I had left you and Dominic out. My thoughts of course also go out to you and Dominic at this awful time. Your Mum will be missed by us Kent Folkies I can tell you. When I last saw her at Rochester Sweeps she was on top of her form and really seemed to be enjoying herself both at the 'George Vaults' and at the 'Gordon Hotel', so I was utterly shocked when I got home from Greece to the e-mails from Richard. It's a great loss.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: Nemesis
Date: 20 May 03 - 05:48 AM

Dear Richard,

So sorry to hear of your tragic loss - the Observer this Sunday just gone (18th) carried an article with addresses for alternative DIY funeral arrangers .. (does any one still have the paper and can check please?)

Just done a quick search - you might want to give this organisation a call?
The Natural Death Centre
6 Blackstock Mews, Blackstock Road, London N4 2BT
Tel +44 [0]20 7359 8391; fax +44 [0]20 7354 3831

It's a charity set up to help people arrange lo-cost DIY funerals (woodland/ eco-interments etc)
Hope they can help or help with info?
Best wishes
Hille


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 22 May 03 - 12:43 PM

Thank you for that Hille.

I have some more details of Jacqui's life now (thanks to those who have obliged) and will go over them with Barry some time and post. If you have guilty secrets from the 60s South London Music scene, watch this space.

The Wake is now definite at the Canopus, Hill Road, Rochester. 6 pm Sat 31st May.



JACQUI'S WAKE
JACQUI WALKER 10th March 1945 – 11th May 2003

31st MAY 2003

The Canopus
Hill Road
Rochester

6pm til closing
Singaround starts at 8pm

Join us,
         With your instruments,
         your friends,
         and your smile.
No black, no sad songs and no sorry for your self.

All are welcome to sing her out
in the way she knew and loved.

Vectis, you are invited.

Essex Girl, you are invited.

Anyone else who knew her is invited.

The pub is laying on food, and laying in xtra beer - the IPA there is good.

THe pub was even going to get the piano tuned, but alas oiks have wrecked it (and also it was not a concert pitch instrument, being old) but I think one keyboard player may be bringing a keyboard to put up if there is room, so if you need a keyboard to play that night and ask him nicely....

If you need a map PM me with your email (it's a big file) or snailmail address.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 May 03 - 01:59 PM

What an admirable job you have done, Richard, in pulling this together and including so many. I am very sorry to hear of your and Jaqui's family's loss.

kat


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: GUEST,Royston
Date: 23 May 03 - 01:40 PM

I'm not a regular contributor here, but felt that I wanted to add my two pen'orth on record, even if belatedly which is the story of my life.

I first met Jacqui at age 13 (I was friends with her Son, Dominic) and unusually in such circumstances, a frienship and respect developed with her and with Richard that has been and will continue to be an important part of my life (at age 31, that's 18 years and still counting).

The four of us (Andrew George included) created the spectacle that was "Roger the Chorister" (and indeed it could be quite a spectacle at times ;-P and Jacqui, as a natural and unique freestyle player, was just great at keeping the competing ego's under control and making the music fun.

On a personal note. Jacqui was a true and dependable friend, a wise counsel, wonderfully astute at cutting through one's self delusions and a sensitive judge of when to be soothing and when to dish out some hard truths. Talents learned from a life that was varied, rich and at many points far from sraight-forward and easy.

All in all, a combination of qualities that I can't imagine ever finding in quite the same mix again. If it was ever true that somebody never really dies if they live on in the lives they touch then It's true of Jacqui.

Whenever I deal with others, perhaps in extreme situations, and I feel that I am doing some good or making some sound judgements, I can recognise, in my actions or approach, values and assumptions that I gained from knowing Jacqui. I can't imagine a better legacy and I would certainly aspire to remembered in similar terms.

I hope that as many of you as possible can join us at the wake to celebrate a really rather fabulous fellow traveller.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 28 May 03 - 11:08 AM

Just to remind all of you who knew Jacqui, the wake is this Saturday.

Her history is progressing


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Jun 03 - 06:49 PM

I may add a bit more in due course, but let me say now that the wake was a truly wonderful affair.

So many musicians, some from so far away, and such a range of ages from seventeen to seventy. Some truly wonderful and emotion filled renditions of so many of Jacqui's favourite songs. Jacqui's brother Robin came out from behind a PA to sing unamplified for the first time in decades. The brewery donated a buffet at its own cost which was just such a nice gesture. The landlady brought her own chairs down from upstairs, and fat folk musicians promptly wriggled on them and broke them, and she would not accept my offer to pay for them. The amount of alcohol consumed was staggering (I think the pub sold more IPA in one night than it usually does in a fortnight) and a number of people were so emotional by the end of the evening that standing was the last thing on their mind (I think there may be a parody song in there somewhere). Some who knew Jacqui from the past thought Rachel was a haunt.

I am told that several folkies have asked their husbands/wives/whatevers to do the same for them when they go.

The family is deeply moved and deeply grateful.

In the fullness of time a website will go up with some history and some pictures of the night. If only we had recorded it in sound too!


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Nov 03 - 07:59 PM

I am reminded in two ways that six months have passed.

First I have only today read the Bruce Olson thread. It is remiss of me not previously to have acknowledged someone I read avidly, even if not always with agreement. But as a spinoff, anent knowledge, the debt that Bert Lloyd, in writing "the Idiot" owed to Jacqui and to her husband Barry is not as widely acknowledged as perhaps it should be.

Secondly, it was but Sunday past that Pete Hicks (Crayfolk, Skinner's Rats, Slattery, Dickie (Cisco) Bishop and the Sidekicks, Barber's Jazzband) a folk singer/musician, 12-string-player, and tenor banjo player (not always the same things) generally to be admired, reminded me that it was a long time since Jacqui died. That may be the way that clocks measure six months. But I am still collecting any stories and memories of her life that other folkies who knew her in the great soup of 60s London may be able to contribute. You did not forget her. A blonde with hair several feet long, and a size 6 although 5 foot 8". And a husband who played clawhammer from hell. But he played DIFFERENT J-45, at least in later years. One slightly awkward folk evening we were all three there and he had not got his guitar with him so played hers. Halfway through the intro he bent a string hard and it did not return true. He stopped, said "My Gibson wouldn't have done that", tweaked one string (it had to be the right one of course), and resumed. In the 60s he had a Levin Goliath, but it ended up floating down the Ganges.

At the wake for Brixton Bert, a luthier who used to know her (she was standing by me at the time) came up to me and said of her Hagstrom (pegbridge j-45, 1963) "I knew a girl who had a guitar just like that once". I was then able to tell him to look over his shoulder and see her again. Take a bow Pete Chopyn (Crayfolk). He once made her a dulcimer, perhaps with an ulterior motive, which I am told was not gratified.

I now have her Hagstrom largely restored (thank you Brian Rodgers, recommended luthier if you are near Chatham, Kent), and I am slowly polishing off the wax reside that her 40 years of love for it, armed with wax furniture polish (despite, for 25 years, my objections) left.

I now have back from the luthiers the almost identical Hagstrom that I bought her on ebay for use as a spare, and then discovered was a wreck. Thank you Graham Noden, underneath Andy's, Denmark Street, London. Great job, great price. I shall play it myself in stead.

So far I have only one person who remembered seeing "the Chapmen" (unaccompanied, heavily researched, traditional harmony) - her main band in the 60's - live. I'd love to hear of more. But we should also remember the family members (no names no pack drill) who assert that her muse deprived them of the primacy that normative standard required.

So many songs she knew. So many I have yet to learn.

If you think this is self indulgent, tuff.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Nov 03 - 08:14 PM

No, I think it's lovely, and I wish you'd tell us more.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: Bassic
Date: 10 Nov 03 - 08:16 PM

Indulge all you like Richard, I for one enjoy your thoughts on an obviously fascinating lady and wish I had had the chance to meet up with her.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 May 04 - 01:21 PM

It is a year tomorrow that Jacqui died


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 May 05 - 05:42 AM

Two years.

There is no official wake or reprise this year but there is a song/session in the pub next door on Thursday 12th May


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: Pete Peterson
Date: 03 May 05 - 07:54 AM

dang! wish I had met her!


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: GUEST,The Barden of England at work
Date: 03 May 05 - 08:16 AM

Richard - You mentioned here earlier saying Rachel was a haunt, and my word didn't she remind me of Jacqui this last weekend at Rochester Sweeps. Another great legacy she, and you of course, has left us. Sweeps will always remind me of Jacqui, and the last time I saw her looking so well in 'The George Vaults', with so many ideas and thoughts for the future. It's so sad they were not to be.
As always
John Barden


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 May 05 - 06:09 PM

Thank you both


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 May 05 - 06:23 PM

I should also like to thank El Greko, who was moved by my assertion on another thread that I still avoided the clubs to which Jacqui as a smoker could not go, to write a song "Because She did" for which I have offered him and he has graciously accepted some re-writing of the words more to reflect the facts of Jacqui.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 04 May 05 - 10:51 AM

I was at Medway College of Technology in Chatham (Fort Horsted Campus) in the early 70's and knew a Jacqui Walker who played around the folk pubs/clubs in the Chatham & Rochester area. From the obit notices it would have been about the right era, and she would have been around the right age.
Does anyone know if Jacqui studied at Fort Horsted as a mature student at around that time? She was in her late 20's at the time.
If so then it must be the same Jacqui (we dated a few times but nothing serious). I lost touch when I left the College some 30 years ago, but still have fond memories of Jacqui.
Would be good to hear if anyone can confirmm
Thanks


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 04 May 05 - 10:55 AM

Further to my post above, I never knew of Richard Bridge.
The Jacqui I knew was separated from her partner at the time.
Jon


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker
From: GUEST,simonb
Date: 04 May 05 - 03:52 PM

My last memory of Jacqui, was standing in the bar of the George Vaults,at Sweeps, while Richard had run down the road to get some 'proper beer' and when the barman asked me what I wanted, Jacqui said ' give him anything, he'll drink it'.
   Cheers mate, it was crap


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 May 05 - 10:40 PM

Hi, Guest Jon.

Insomnia again...

Might very well have have been the same Jacqui. Jacqui was born 1945. Her first daughter Jo-Ann was born 1967 and her son Dominic 1972. Her teacher training course was then done at Sittingbourne, but she did take some O levels just before that in order to get on to the course, and I think she did them at MCCOFT, Fort Horsted. Her then house was in Lower Halstow. I don't know exactly by date when she separated from Barry but I can place the rough time she finally finally finally split from him (he had spent a lot of time away doing the hippy trail etc, which was when he lost his Levin in the Ganges) as during the teacher training course because she had to change from music as her main subject to drama, since sad songs caused her to break out in floods of tears.

She had a blue-ish/silver-ish Ford Escort 1300 Estate, none too pristine, which she said cost her some hot dates because she would get offered a lift "home" from folk clubs but have to take her own car back and get home to relieve the baby sitter! As a striking looking very slim young woman of an assertive nature with her own guitar (the Hagstrom J-45) and (bottle) blonde hair down to her waist she got plenty of offers in the folk clubs at the time, many not musical!

A little after that she used to play as a duo with a reasonably regular boyfriend of hers called Dave Wiltshire, and I first saw her at Dartford Folk club, when a friend of mine Pete Lewis came out of the club to the bar where I was drinking and said "I've just seen a bird who's just your type, really skinny". She also used to be pretty regular at the old Medway singer's club in Wouldham which is where she said she first noticed me, but we didn't actually meet until Cambridge (I was there with the same Pete Lewis, and he had pulled, so he had the tent and I had to sleep in the car) probably '74.   She was up there with a boyfriend who was a photographer (and I think his name might have been Keith) and I scrounged breakfast off them (being up early after sleeping in the car) and then broke the G string on her guitar. Also Dominic peed on me.   We started going out together some weeks after that but we drifted apart when I went up to Chester to do my Law Society finals February '76.

After that she had a pretty serious thing with a bloke called Ken who was a roadie, (and she would have stayed playing but I don't know for sure who her musical partner would have been, might still have been Dave Wiltshire at least tome of the time) but we got back together again in 1980 and stayed that way (sometimes rather more by hook than crook).

G'night, it's nearly 4 am.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 06 May 05 - 07:53 AM

Richard,
Thanks for this note, I'm sure it is the same gal.
The slim figure, blond hair, tatty Escort, Hagstrom......yep that's Jacqui.
She lived in Lower Halstow, (School Lane, I think).
May I add my (belated) condolences for your sad loss.

My, the memories flood back. Many a time we sat cross legged on her sitting room floor playing guitar and swapping songs. (I remember bunking off class to go round to hers.)

I was a mere amateur then (still am !) and some 6-7 years younger than Jaqui, but she encouraged me to play on and keep trying.

Now here I am 30 odd years on still playing folk clubs in the Rutland area (as a floor singer) and still thoroughly enjoying it. I often drift back to those happy days, in my mind. To paraphrase Ralph McTell ("tonight in some way I loved you").....In those days, in some way, I certainly loved Jacqui.

What a small world we live in! All the best to you Richard, and everyone else who knew and cared for Jacqui.

My club will meet next Tuesday night, at the Hatton Arms, in Gretton, near Corby and I will sing a song for Jacqui, I hope that she'll be listening, it's the most fitting tribute, I think.

Jon


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 May 05 - 10:16 PM

Yes, School Lane. I still have the Hagstrom. Damn fine guitar.

Some years later I gave myself sunburn using an arc welder on that Escort - arc goggles, but it was a nice day so I wore shorts and no tee shirt. Boy was my chest red. But at least the front suspension stayed on a bit longer.   

Did you know Andy George? He used to know her in the folk clubs and was fond of a beer and also used to go to hers from time to time for musical purposes - she caught him peeing in her front garden (after the beer, you see) one night, and oh boy did she tell him off!

Perhaps you also knew Ian Syreeta - another guitarist (but an electric player) from her teacher training college? Or the other muso with attitude from the same teacher training course, Janet Baker? Alas neither made the wake - we had lost touch with Ian, and Jan and Tony had a gig.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 07 May 05 - 01:11 AM

Richard,
I may have met these guys but regret I don't remember the names.
Jacqui and I were usually alone at her place, except for her kids of course. Whilst we had a few friends in common who were at MCOFT, I don't recall meeting many others of her friends (except briefly). I only went to 2 or 3 gigs with her.

I remember once, one of our mates (Barry Lytollis - who was on my course) came back with us to hers after a gig, and I REALLY didn't want him to....if you know what I mean! He stayed for ages and wouldn't take the hint! When he eventually went, Jacqui and I were both too knackered! Happy days!

Do you have any recordings of Jacqui's work? If I recall, she penned some of her own stuff. I played her a few of my own humble efforts, one or two of which seem to have stood the test 'cos I still play them and I don't always get booed off! Anyway it would be great to hear her sing again, if such recording exist.

My e-mail is jon.nix@virgin.net if you want to contact.

Yours
Jon Nix


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 May 05 - 11:34 AM

She semed to have no faith in her own songs - sort of "noble stag beset by hounds at crag". I may have some words, but she never played them and I don't know the tunes.

She largely stopped playing for quite a while.

The only recording I know of was done about 8-10 years ago of her, and me, (and some bits of Rachel, our daughter, then 13-15) at a friend's bedroom studio in Edgeware. It's pretty dire! The only copies I have are on cassette tape and the masters were on ceramic cassette and no longer exist. Also, by then, her top range had been lost to the tobacco, so there was no upper register, and she had had bronchitus that summer so everything was re-set down a tone (which sure wrecked some of my lines!). She did conceptualise some great harmony, however, but for the last few years she had so much trouble with her breathing that it was a standard joke that all of our songs were in the key of J mobile...

I think the best part of our musical performances were her fiery recorder lines - quite unlike any other recorder player I ever heard, no polite "toot toot" about it at all.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 08 May 05 - 01:00 AM

Thanks anyway Richard, We all still have our own recordings....in our memories.
It has been good to revive those memories, this last few days.
All the very best to you and yours.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 May 05 - 06:26 PM

Today


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 May 05 - 06:28 PM

Jon, I talked to Edie, Jacqui's mother today (for obvious reasons). She thought you were the very tall one with very long hair who Ted (Jacqui's late stepfather) refused to let into the house because of the hair. Was she right?


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 05:31 PM

Funny, goes around, comes around. Bad day today. Thinking how the world was stacked against woman musicians in the 60s. Might be because I've just put Jacqui's Hagstrom J-45 in for a refret (not easy with bound necks).

Woman musician - basically gives it up for love and kids and survival and mammon - (must check some of the musical history)

Husband (not me, first husband) doesn't play any more.
First daughter doesn't sing any more.
Son doesn't play anymore.
Here am I without a tenth of her talent still playing (after a fashion).
Second daughter (my daughter) still working on yet another band, but hey this is the noughties and if you are going to be woman rock singer you are too old at 23 right (unless you are already "made")?

Medical profession still sticks together - no practical way to prove they killed her.

History passes on. The marks that ought to have been left by a musician of rare ability were never written, and no effective trace will be left. Even the family don't realise the only thing worthwhile (after survival and sufficiency) is music.

Not good. And the song that is in me somewhere about it (which might be a lasting epitaph, if I could get it right) won't come without being saccharine and obvious. It hasn't come for nearly 3 years. The musicians who knew her then are dying. The values we knew then are dying. Maybe the song I'm looking for is the brontosaurus stomp.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Dipsodeb
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 01:06 PM

I'm sure the perfect song is in there and one day when the time is right it will unravel from your mind. They say that getting things down on paper helps to unload and maybe that's what needs to happen.

Life's a bitch and unfair, things will never be the same but it is true that time slowly heals and life goes on sorry if I sound trite. Just feel for you that's all. I have just re-read Jaquis Obit and I can read your sorrow in every line.

Still round the corner there may wait
a new road or secret gate.
And though we pass them by today
tommorow we may come this way,
and take the hidden path that runs
towards the moon or to the sun.

((Debs))


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Jeri
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 01:40 PM

'Saccharine and obvious' may just seem honest to others.

"Even the family don't realise the only thing worthwhile (after survival and sufficiency) is music." I disagree. It's love, and the way a person's love has touched the lives of others. Music is a way of doing that, but not the only way.

Sometimes the songs don't come because you're trying to write THE song. You know - the one about everything. The one you have to 'get right'. Write first, then make it right. Look for something small - a day, an event, something she said, something she loved, her guitar, one of her songs - and make people feel it. Then write as many more as you need to. Most will probably remain your secrets, like love letters. Some will help you remember and heal and will inspire you to share them.

If none of that sounds right, maybe you need to write one for yourself first - an angry one - before you write for Jacqui.

I know this is all very presumptuous of me, but I hope I've helped a bit.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Peace
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 06:50 PM

Sharon. Gal I had a major crush on when I was in High School. Sweetest, nicest gal anyone could ever want to meet. Developed bone cancer. Died. I'd gone back to see her from NYC where I was living. I had always hoped to return to Montreal and maybe get more serious than our age and circumstances allowed when we were younger. Found out she had felt that way about me, too. I have written many songs. None about her. Just don't know where to start. Maybe, someday, maybe.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Sep 06 - 07:49 PM

Jacqui's mother's 91s birthday party today.

Family produced a copy of the book of 1st 50 years of Sidmouth.

1966 and 1967, there she is in the backgrounds of photos, with her husband Barry.

The 1967 one is the one of Rod Stradling, to the right of the one of Dave and Toni Arthur. She's the striking blonde.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Sep 06 - 03:49 AM

Re-reading this in the morning I should like again to thank all those who have contributed to this thread. Jeri, I hear what you say, but the love dies when the lovers die, while the music can live for ever.

Jon, I really must contact you when I am next north of London.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 08:51 PM

Dammit I should not be back here for another 6 months.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Alice
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 08:53 PM

To Richard and your friends and family, even though you will be away,
I hope you eventually read my message of deep sympathy for your loss.

Alice in Montana


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 09:00 PM

No, I'm not away (except with the fairies)


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: GUEST,Girl Friday without cookie
Date: 03 Nov 07 - 02:54 PM

Hello Richard. Chin up, best foot forward my dear. We're all here for you. See you on Thursday we hope.

Sue and Trev


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Nov 07 - 02:58 PM

Ah yes, nose to the grindstone, shoulder to the wheel, chin up, best foot forward, put your back in to it - Hell, in that position you look like a caricature of Richard the third, with no horse....


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: My guru always said
Date: 03 Nov 07 - 07:42 PM

Positive thoughts Richard, love & hugs,
Hil x


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: growler
Date: 04 Nov 07 - 04:46 PM

Although Richard is a Depressing old Git, I have to say if it were not for him and Jacqui, I would not be in the Folk scene. The support I got from The both of them allowed me to be part of the Folk network in Medway.
Thanks


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: GUEST,Dave Arthur
Date: 02 Jun 08 - 09:58 AM

Hi - I've only just discovered this thread, and found it very interesting and moving. It's wonderful that someone can be so well rememberd by so many people.
My ex-wife Toni, and myself, and a few others - Dave, Eddy (the Chapman), the Coven Band etc., started the Phoebus Awakes in Catford, back in the Dark Ages. Barry Walker and Jacqu were around, of course, at the same time in South London, and obviousy knew Bert Lloyd. If anyone knows more about the Bert Lloyd/Walker connection I'd love to hear from you. I saw at the top of this thread a reference to the Walkers' influence on Bert's The Idiot?
What was that about? I am three quarters of the way through a Bert Lloyd biography and am just getting to the folk revival of the 60s and would welcome any infomation on the above, also any Bert anecdotes or memories of his gigs, con=versations, stories etc.

Wishing you all that's best, Dave Arthur
contact me at email: storyart@aol.com


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Jun 08 - 01:24 PM

Hi Dave. Jacqui often spoke of you and Toni. I have emailed you.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 26 Apr 11 - 07:50 PM

Refresh


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 16 Jan 13 - 05:17 PM

It's 10 years this year. I will never forget Jacqui but some of you will know that sometimes with her there was love - and sometimes there was its opposite. No prisoners. If there was less than love, there might be room for less than its opposite.

I have just met a wonderful young woman. We don't know all that the future may bring. She is a singer and player too. Maybe this is the year completely to let go and to stop re-reading (from time to time) this thread.

If I could fit a mini-camp-bbq-song fest into my garden this year in Mid-May would anyone think that a good thing to do and place to go to write the final underscore? If there is an overspill need I might be able to arrange something with the pub over the road or neighbours.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: The Barden of England
Date: 17 Jan 13 - 03:40 AM

I'd be up for that Richard. 10 years - where did that go?
John Barden


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 17 Jan 13 - 03:48 AM

I don't know you, Richard, except through Mudcat, and I'm a generation too young to have known Jacqui in her prime - and I'm 52.

We're none of us getting any younger - but the future's still unwritten. There is a time for letting go.

A close friend of mine died suddenly just after qualifying as a psychotherapist. I saw drafts of her doctoral thesis while she was writing it, and I thought it was terrific. After she died there was talk about getting it published in some form; another of her friends was very keen and I was going to help with it. Then I was the one pushing for it and the friend wasn't so sure. Then time passed, and I've got the drafts on my hard drive somewhere, and I can't even remember the friend's name. Everyone goes the same way in the end, and sometimes some wonderful things are lost along with them. It's hard.

But: the future's still unwritten. There's a time for letting go. I wish you every happiness.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Jan 13 - 02:12 PM

I'd be honoured to join you in this


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 19 May 13 - 10:06 AM

It was yesterday and it was a magnificent party.

Jacqui's oldest brother Robin did several songs on her guitar. Andy who nearly became my son-in-law became besotted with one of my other Hagstroms and did several songs. I joined him on a couple (we found related meanings in both "You can't always get what you want" and "The Flame Still Burns") and Big Pat blew some fine harp on some others. Jo, my oldest daughter, sang a couple - as did Rachel: both are such lovely singers. The Barden of England was in fine voice. Alchemy did some lovely harmony stuff and we had a real wall of sound with them and the assembled company when we (Roger the Chorister)did "Byker Hill" and "3 score and 10". KevtheClogs REALLY cheered us up with "The Crow on the Cradle". Loads of others sang and Cari and Tony Fiddler did some fine tunage.

Many friends, musical and otherwise, came. We sang on in the garden - Jacqui's garden, where her ashes are scattered - to about 2 am, and burned a vast quantity of wood to keep warm round the firebarrel (which has now officially died).

Vast amounts of meat were burned and food eaten - and the drink flowed free. We counted one young lady outside 4 bottles of red wine!

But the best thing was that we kept a perfect balance between party and remembrance. RIP


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: My guru always said
Date: 19 May 13 - 11:09 AM

We were thinking of you yesterday Richard, and we'd have loved to join you in your Remembering BBQ Party but alas, other priorities took hold. Greatd to see that you all had a great time, well done!


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Acme
Date: 19 May 13 - 11:26 AM

Sounds like a great event, Richard. Moving forward with a nod to what came before is how we maintain perspective.

SRS


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: GUEST,CS
Date: 19 May 13 - 11:38 AM

So glad it went well for you. She'll always be with you in ways, children are the living legacy of course. I'm sure there will always be an important place for her, but yes, it's a good time to be moving on. It's healthy to both remember what has been, embrace what is, and to be open to what is yet to come. Enjoy the summer. I really do wish you & your new lady all the best.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Leadfingers
Date: 19 May 13 - 11:48 AM

Good to remember the good times with good friends


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: The Barden of England
Date: 19 May 13 - 03:00 PM

That was a special day. Thanks Richard.
John Barden


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Subject: RE: Obit: Jacqueline (Jacqui) Walker (11 May 2003)
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 19 May 13 - 04:09 PM

So glad to see all the positive energy in this thread, and what looks like the dawn of brighter days. With my very warmest wishes -

Bonnie


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