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BS: Erotic folk music,

wilco 17 May 03 - 01:45 PM
John MacKenzie 17 May 03 - 01:49 PM
Dead Horse 17 May 03 - 02:23 PM
GUEST 17 May 03 - 04:37 PM
GUEST,Cluin 17 May 03 - 04:41 PM
GUEST,Mrs. Grundy 17 May 03 - 04:51 PM
GUEST,JestCarresst 17 May 03 - 05:35 PM
Amos 17 May 03 - 05:56 PM
harvey andrews 17 May 03 - 06:33 PM
*daylia* 17 May 03 - 06:51 PM
Amos 17 May 03 - 06:59 PM
GUEST 17 May 03 - 07:32 PM
*daylia* 17 May 03 - 07:52 PM
Sooz 18 May 03 - 10:06 AM
John MacKenzie 18 May 03 - 11:14 AM
The O'Meara 18 May 03 - 05:57 PM
The O'Meara 18 May 03 - 05:59 PM
Amos 18 May 03 - 08:18 PM
Deckman 18 May 03 - 08:31 PM
Metchosin 18 May 03 - 10:51 PM
Joe Offer 18 May 03 - 11:19 PM
Amos 19 May 03 - 12:01 AM
Wilfried Schaum 19 May 03 - 02:50 AM
GUEST,noddy 19 May 03 - 04:34 AM
*daylia* 19 May 03 - 09:52 AM
John MacKenzie 19 May 03 - 01:14 PM
GUEST 19 May 03 - 02:44 PM
Joe_F 19 May 03 - 07:07 PM
GUEST,Q 19 May 03 - 08:25 PM
Mr Happy 19 May 03 - 08:56 PM
Wilfried Schaum 20 May 03 - 01:44 AM
Metchosin 20 May 03 - 03:32 AM
Dave Bryant 20 May 03 - 07:35 AM
Metchosin 20 May 03 - 11:41 AM
Amos 20 May 03 - 11:46 AM
GUEST,Ron Olesko 20 May 03 - 01:01 PM
Kim C 20 May 03 - 01:23 PM
GUEST,Ron Olesko 20 May 03 - 01:26 PM
Amos 20 May 03 - 01:27 PM
John MacKenzie 20 May 03 - 03:06 PM
GUEST 20 May 03 - 03:07 PM
Kim C 20 May 03 - 04:49 PM
Bill D 20 May 03 - 05:25 PM
Amos 20 May 03 - 05:44 PM
Wilfried Schaum 21 May 03 - 03:32 AM
Jeanie 21 May 03 - 05:26 AM
Cluin 21 May 03 - 03:13 PM
Herga Kitty 21 May 03 - 05:37 PM
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Dave Bryant 22 May 03 - 04:46 AM

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Subject: BS: Erotic folk muisc,
From: wilco
Date: 17 May 03 - 01:45 PM

Are people who start, read, or post to a thread entitled "erotic folk music" necessarily reprobates?


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk muisc,
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 May 03 - 01:49 PM

Nope only those who contribute to them, especially when they use the nom de plume of GUEST......Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk muisc,
From: Dead Horse
Date: 17 May 03 - 02:23 PM

Include those who call themselves Jock, and cant even spell it right!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk muisc,
From: GUEST
Date: 17 May 03 - 04:37 PM

Just as I thought.... there is none.


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk muisc,
From: GUEST,Cluin
Date: 17 May 03 - 04:41 PM

Whoops! Where'd my cookie go? That was me above.

Maybe we should write one.

Oooooooooooooooooooo.... luv ta folk ya, baby
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... luv ta folk ya, baby


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk muisc,
From: GUEST,Mrs. Grundy
Date: 17 May 03 - 04:51 PM

nasty, all of them! Where has decency gone? I am ashamed at the very idea!

Hummmpf!


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk muisc,
From: GUEST,JestCarresst
Date: 17 May 03 - 05:35 PM

Buncha folkin purr-verse! Attractin all them lurker-jerkers ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk muisc,
From: Amos
Date: 17 May 03 - 05:56 PM

Oh, go Jock off, why doncha....

While we are on the subject, does anyone know the lyrics to a highly suggestive Elizabethan ballad which recounts the adventures of a cockroach (Hillacock, yclept) slowly climbing a lady's leg?

"Hillacock came to my lady's thigh
And there the rascal began to spie.
Had he an eye? Aye, marry, had he!
And did he spie? Aye, marry did he...."


is almost all I remember of it. Love to get it back.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk muisc,
From: harvey andrews
Date: 17 May 03 - 06:33 PM

well, I once was a member of a trio.


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk muisc,
From: *daylia*
Date: 17 May 03 - 06:51 PM

Don't know the ballad, Amos -- but the very idea brings on the goosebumps! Especially after I read this bit of trivia ...

"Licking the Envelope

A woman licked an envelope in a local post office and cut her tongue. After several days the place where she'd been cut began to swell. She started to get nervous and went to see a doctor. The doctor cut open the swelled area and a cockroach climbed out. There had been eggs on the envelope she had licked! -From Margaret
"

Now just imagine what might happen if Hillacock set up housekeeping in her ... um .... ahem!

never mind


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk muisc,
From: Amos
Date: 17 May 03 - 06:59 PM

Bet you 2 bucks it is fictitious, daylia, but just as horrible for all that!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk muisc,
From: GUEST
Date: 17 May 03 - 07:32 PM

gee that sounds familiar, daylia....

roach story, snopes

really wish folks would look things up before posting them as FACT...not hard...


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk muisc,
From: *daylia*
Date: 17 May 03 - 07:52 PM

gotta be hard to be ... oh, be a good GUEST!    ;)

(Did I forget the ;) before? -- sorry!)

But that story about Taco Bell just brings on a hankerin for fast food, don't it?   ;>)   Thanks!

daylia


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk muisc,
From: Sooz
Date: 18 May 03 - 10:06 AM

Oops - thought it said erratic. (More suitable for my age group!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk muisc,
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 18 May 03 - 11:14 AM

Menage a trois Harvey? Or should it be men age at Roy's??
Slainthe.....Giok
Who only spells it that way 'cos someone else got in first with the DH spelling, anyway who's to say he's right, he never was before ;¬]


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk muisc,
From: The O'Meara
Date: 18 May 03 - 05:57 PM

Us reprobates have started an anti-defamation league, and you will be hearing from our lawyer!

O'Meara


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk muisc,
From: The O'Meara
Date: 18 May 03 - 05:59 PM

Um..what exactly is a reprobate anyway?

O'Meara


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk muisc,
From: Amos
Date: 18 May 03 - 08:18 PM

reprobate


NOUN:        1. A morally unprincipled person. 2. One who is predestined to damnation.
ADJECTIVE:        1. Morally unprincipled; shameless. 2. Rejected by God and without hope of salvation.
TRANSITIVE VERB:        Inflected forms: rep·ro·bat·ed, rep·ro·bat·ing, rep·ro·bates
1. To disapprove of; condemn. 2. To abandon to eternal damnation. Used of God.
ETYMOLOGY:        From Middle English, condemned, from Late Latin reprobtus, past participle of reprobre, to reprove : Latin re-, opposite; see re– + Latin probre, to approve; see prove.


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk muisc,
From: Deckman
Date: 18 May 03 - 08:31 PM

Thanks Amos ... I kinda like that! Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk muisc,
From: Metchosin
Date: 18 May 03 - 10:51 PM

Gee Amos, maybe I can find it in my copy of An Anthology of Restoration Erotic Poetry. It may be the one after An Elegy on the Burning of a Hogshead of Dildos. (English and French trade wars ya know, freedom fries pale by comparison....)

As a reprobate of the highest order, the first song that popped into my mind was The Cuckoos Nest.

"Oh I like a gal who can wiggle and can twist.........."


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk muisc,
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 May 03 - 11:19 PM

Now, if you go to our Digital Tradition Keywords Search (in QuickLinks), you can do a search for "bawdy" and find lots of "bawdy" songs. Now, my question is, Is bawdy erotic?
I don't think so.
Erotic is Loreena McKennitt singing "She Moved Through the Fair" - but it isn't bawdy.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: Amos
Date: 19 May 03 - 12:01 AM

Joe:

Does your fair and esteemed wife know how you feel?? Maybe she'll put it on the player as background music...

But I concur that bawdy is not erotic, and its a pity there's no "erotic" tab in the DT! :>) And there are no words to Bolero anyway....


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 19 May 03 - 02:50 AM

Daylia - this kind of stories can be found all over the world. The German professor Wilhelm Brednich (former custos of the German Folk Song Archive) has coined them Modern Myths or stories a good friend heard from a good friend. He edited three collections until now.

Amos - Does your A-key work only at random? The verb is reprobare.

Wilfried


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 19 May 03 - 04:34 AM

erotic folk songs are nothing new.

"There is no such thing as a dirty book its just the way you read it"
Alex Harvey.

Then of course there are many Burns Poems such as one on the latest Eddie Reader Cd in which the young "lady" in the song asks the gentleman to come into the barn and try her.


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: *daylia*
Date: 19 May 03 - 09:52 AM

Wilfrid, the site where I found the story "Licking the Envelope" included other incredulous tales, like one about a girl who (supposedly) had a baby octopus removed from her swelling belly after swallowing some eggs while swimming in the ocean. I included the story above as a JOKE, because I thought it lent an, um, interesting twist to Amos' Elizabethan ballad about Hillacock the cockroach. HA!

daylia


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 May 03 - 01:14 PM

I'm yours bawdy and soul [sole?]
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: GUEST
Date: 19 May 03 - 02:44 PM

Sounds like a foot fetish to me.

Hmmm, that iambic pentameter makes me so hot!


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: Joe_F
Date: 19 May 03 - 07:07 PM

Wind, and sky,
And sounding surf,
And you and I
And soixante-neuf.


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 19 May 03 - 08:25 PM

Hillacock must have been an ancestor of archie.

expression is the need of my soul
i was once a vers libre bard
but I died and my soul went into the body of a cockroach
it has given me a new outlook upon life
i see things from the under side now

apologies to archie mehitabel and don marquis


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: Mr Happy
Date: 19 May 03 - 08:56 PM

here's some erotic folkie pics!

http://www.johnnylondon.co.uk/31950/index.html


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 20 May 03 - 01:44 AM

Daylia - as joke you intended it, and as a joke it was understood.

Joe F - ... And soixante-neuf Could it be this abominable position LIX?

Wilfried


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: Metchosin
Date: 20 May 03 - 03:32 AM

I think you're right Joe, bawdy yes, but erotic folk music.....Erotic folk music? Isn't that sort of an oxymoron?

And come on people, ya gotta be pretty perverse to find a cockroach erotic.

Sting's Fields of Gold or Leonard Cohen's Closing Time, maybe, but they're rather debatable as far as being classified as Folk.


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 20 May 03 - 07:35 AM

What about erotic Morris Dancing. A certain side used to dance on the "Fun Day" of a local naturist (nudist) club. The first year they danced they wore full kit, but by a couple of years later I seem to remember they wore only hats, bell pads, plus an extra bell on a piece of elastic around their "middle legs". Of course a suitable dance would have been "Tool Setting".


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: Metchosin
Date: 20 May 03 - 11:41 AM

oh jeez, the mind boggles, I can think of things a lot more erotic than a bunch of nude men jumping up and down waving handkerchiefs and sticks.*BG*


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: Amos
Date: 20 May 03 - 11:46 AM

Exotic, yes, erotic, doubtful -- buncha flapdoodle! Boing, boing, boing!! LOL!!!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: GUEST,Ron Olesko
Date: 20 May 03 - 01:01 PM

Of course there is Ed McCurdy who recorded a series of albums "When Dalliance is in Flower" plus another series called "Lyrica Erotica". These are the songs that the Francis Child's of the world did not want us to discover!   

I often wonder how many great songs were never saved because the collectors used their own self-censoring of the material.

By the way, Ed used to correct anyone who called his songs "bawdy". "Oscar Brand sings bawdy songs" Ed told me, "I sing erotic ballads". He was 100% correct, there is a big difference.


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: Kim C
Date: 20 May 03 - 01:23 PM

I think LIX is only 59... wouldn't soixante-neuf be LXIX?

Anyhow... there are some good collections out there. I particularly like "The Two Magicians," and any number of night visiting songs. The idea of the man sneaking in through the window in the middle of the night is just so dashingly romantic!


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: GUEST,Ron Olesko
Date: 20 May 03 - 01:26 PM

Kim - it isn't that romantic.   I almost killed myself with the damn ladder!


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: Amos
Date: 20 May 03 - 01:27 PM

Kim, what is 59?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 May 03 - 03:06 PM

A year younger than me....Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: GUEST
Date: 20 May 03 - 03:07 PM

LIX is 59


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: Kim C
Date: 20 May 03 - 04:49 PM

I guess 59 is ten minutes shorter. :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: Bill D
Date: 20 May 03 - 05:25 PM

" Hmmm, that iambic pentameter makes me so hot!"

A horny young poet from Lameter,
Had an organ of tremendous diameter.
But it wasn't the size
That brought tears to girls eyes-
'Twas the rhythm, iambic pentameter.

"I wandered lonely as a cloud"....ooohhhh!


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: Amos
Date: 20 May 03 - 05:44 PM

It ain't what you do with what you got, it's how you time what you do with what you got? Don't mean a thing if it ain't....oh, never mind!!!


:>)


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 21 May 03 - 03:32 AM

Kim - caught me, I just forgot an X. Your guess was right, the correct figure is LXIX.
But without this error we would have missed your witty answer about the ten minutes ...

Wilfried


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: Jeanie
Date: 21 May 03 - 05:26 AM

Kim C - I'm glad I'm not alone on this one ! "The Two Magicians" is one of my all time favourite songs. The very thought of being chased by the husky, dusky, musty, fusky coal black smith....oooooh......

(I know she also calls him "nasty" as well as husky etc. etc., but I'm sure she's only teasing him). Oooooh......


- jeanie


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: Cluin
Date: 21 May 03 - 03:13 PM

But the real question is what is he going to do with her maidenhead once he's gained it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 21 May 03 - 05:37 PM

Gather her up by the middle so small, and throw her into the bed. Turn her heels where her head should be, and give her back her maidenhead.


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: Desdemona
Date: 21 May 03 - 06:42 PM

Or---most disturbing of all----morris lap dancing!

(blame my husband!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Erotic folk music,
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 22 May 03 - 04:46 AM

I could think of several ladies morris side members who I would find very erotic. Perhaps a certain Kentish group could issue a new badge - "I've been lap danced by a Loose Woman".


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