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What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?

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MarkS 27 May 03 - 04:23 PM
GUEST,Songster Bob 27 May 03 - 04:25 PM
GUEST,weerover 27 May 03 - 04:26 PM
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Subject: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Sandy Creek
Date: 27 May 03 - 03:56 PM

I am curious since I read the thread about where we live. Now I would like to know what we do for a living AND for fun.

I (along with my whole hippie family) produce hand crafted tie dyed clothing and stuff, some batiks and so forth (and have for 40 years). We are collectors and pack rats, mainly musical instruments and music related stuff. We farm some and dig roots and herbs (yarbs) and try our best to be kind to the land. Some of us have even worked at honest real jobs (but not many and not for long). How 'bout it, what do 'catters do...OR what would you like to do.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: greg stephens
Date: 27 May 03 - 03:58 PM

I play music for a living. For fun, I play music and drink beer.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: MarkS
Date: 27 May 03 - 04:23 PM

I'm a slot attendant at Harrahs Casino in Atlantic City, NJ. If you win a big jackpot, there is a chance I will be the guy who brings you the money!
Regards
Mark


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST,Songster Bob
Date: 27 May 03 - 04:25 PM

<< I'm a slot attendant at Harrahs Casino in Atlantic City, NJ. If you win a big jackpot, there is a chance I will be the guy who brings you the money!

Regards

Mark >>

I guess you don't meet many people in your job, then. Especially Mudcatters!

Bob Clayton
Bureaucrat / songster


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST,weerover
Date: 27 May 03 - 04:26 PM

I'd love to play music for a living, even better drink beer. Shortly to be made redundant after 30 years in a factory, so don't know what I'll be doing this time next year.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 27 May 03 - 04:34 PM

i work in a curry ship.john


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST, GEST
Date: 27 May 03 - 04:35 PM

I retired from the USA and now own a packaged ice company on an island in Canada. It goes with good music. :-)


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Morticia
Date: 27 May 03 - 04:44 PM

You might find this thread of interest,Sandy

thread.cfm?threadid=49289


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 May 03 - 04:55 PM

Sandy Creek, do you have a catalogue or website? Would love to see your clothing.:-)


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Morticia
Date: 27 May 03 - 04:56 PM

and I just realised that I didn't post to it.....I am a social worker, well, that's what I qualified to do. These days I manage other social workers ( much like herding cats) and do some case work as well.I work with people with learning disability but have worked with the terminally ill, mentally ill, people with HIV and Aids and all sorts of groups.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Sandy Creek
Date: 27 May 03 - 05:18 PM

katlaughing, we do not have a website or catalog since our production is somewhat limited due to age (there are five of us and I am the baby boy at age 60). We do have two apprentices with twelve and fifteen years with us. Someday they just might get it right. Just joshin', they are gifted. We sell mainly at festivals and street fairs and to folks who drop by the farm. I can email you some photos if you care to PM me an address.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Burke
Date: 27 May 03 - 06:11 PM

I'm a librarian.

For fun I sing, listen to music (preferably live) and read.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 May 03 - 06:16 PM

I'm a librarian. A public librarian. Well, actually I've gone over to the dark side and run a public library in the second-largest city in Idaho.

For fun I get drunk and rip books to pieces. Seriously, I try to find time to play my trumpet, hike and do outdoorsy things, listen to music, read, fence (someday again!), read, travel, read....


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Sam Pirt
Date: 27 May 03 - 07:05 PM

I am a professional musician & Community Musician / arts worker.

I love the job, I love the music, I love life, I love the people, I'm lucky, and I know so!!

Cheers, from a very happy and busy, Sam


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Joe_F
Date: 27 May 03 - 07:10 PM

I'm a freelance copyeditor, specializing in technical MSs. I work at home.

I spend a lot of time on the Internet and reading magazines & books. I correspond with people. I sing. Sometimes I go to parties. I cook for myself.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Nathan in Texas
Date: 27 May 03 - 07:11 PM

To support my musical endeavors I teach first grade in the tiny community (population 579) of Ponder, Texas. For fun, I'm a street musician, playing banjo, mandolin, and autoharp. I've recently taken up saxophone, so that's what I spend my time practicing.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Ely
Date: 27 May 03 - 07:18 PM

Veterinary assistant (which is only about half a living, if you want to be realistic about it).

For fun I [drum roll, please] play music, quilt, read, draw, paint things, and indulge in free-form research on various subjects (Regency and early Victorian clothing, old cars, history, folklore, ghosts, railroads, you name it). I also square dance every chance I get, although informally (not the poofy skirt kind of square-dancing).


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: kendall
Date: 27 May 03 - 08:41 PM

I a retired federal conservation officer. Before I lost my voice to cigarettes, I was also a singer/humorist. I am once more able to tell stories, but, can't handle the singing yet. Soon I will be getting voice lessons from Gordon Bok's voice coach.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Padre
Date: 27 May 03 - 09:32 PM

I am the Archdeacon of my diocese, and a parish priest. In a former life, I was a logistician for DoN (Department of the Navy) and a Fleet Marine Force Corpsman for 20+ years. Even earlier, I was a deckhand on a towboat on the Cumberland River in Tennessee, and a park ranger & naturalist for the state of West Virginia. Amongst all that I sang with the Boarding Party and Rock Creek. What a strange road it has been.

Padre


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 May 03 - 09:43 PM

I rent my body out to gorgeous women for $600/hour.

So far I've been able to buy a postage stamp and an orange with the proceeds from this most excellent profession. Well, actually, I had to get the orange on credit...

For fun...well, that's altogether different! Now yer talkin'!!! For fun I write and perform songs about all kinds of interesting subjects, play really good guitars (which I adore), collect (and sometimes even build) model kits of historical airplanes and ships and such, read comics (like Liberty Meadows, Groo the Wanderer, and Donald Duck), study spiritual disciplines (and try to practice them), and type endless bizarre stuff as well as some serious social commentary on Mudcat Cafe.

- LH


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: artbrooks
Date: 27 May 03 - 09:47 PM

I am a retired Federal bureaucrat. Otherwise, I live off of the earnings of my wife the OT.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: John Hardly
Date: 27 May 03 - 10:01 PM

I make pots and buy lottery tickets. The two endeavors are running neck and neck in assuring my ultimate financial security.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Bobert
Date: 27 May 03 - 10:08 PM

Ahhhh, after 30 years being self employed owning an auto repair shop, a used car lot and most recently an independent car rental company, I have recently leased out my property and am now semi-retired. I just haven't figured out what I'm gonna do next.

Probably do carpentry and painting but may just sell drugs to school kids...

Awww, jus' funnin'.

Carpenrty and paintin'...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 May 03 - 10:16 PM

Thank you, Sandy Creek! I love the sounds of your place and family and will get back to you! Some day I hope to get to WVa to research some of my long ago kin.:-)


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: khandu
Date: 27 May 03 - 10:32 PM

Carpentry, painting, remodeling...basically, home improvement. And anything else I can think of to make a buck.

For fun, I torment fellow Catters, play my guitar and with my dog, and enjoy life with my lucky wife!

k


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Bill D
Date: 27 May 03 - 10:35 PM

I do woodworking crafts and try to sell them at craft shows...(mostly turned on a lathe..but some other things) like this and this and this and this and this


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Janie
Date: 27 May 03 - 10:58 PM

I'm a Licensed Clinical Social Worker. I work as a psychotherapist to adults through a public mental health program and have a small private practice. I also grow and sell organically grown cut flowers on a small scale. For fun I garden, sing, play with my 9 y.o. son, and occasionally get together with good friends and family.

Sandy Creek,

I wonder if we know each other. My husband Will & I are from WV, and for years Will (and later, I) did the mid-Atlantic craft circuit, selling wildcrafted medicinal herbs, iced sassasfras tea, and potpourris. May I PM you?

Janie I


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST,Sorcha
Date: 27 May 03 - 11:00 PM

Been a Full Time Wife/Mom for almost 30/25 yrs. Had some odd jobs now and then when short of the ready, but my only career has been Mom. For fun, I fiddle around, sew and garden.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Neighmond
Date: 27 May 03 - 11:24 PM

I am a horologist.

Chaz


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Tinker
Date: 27 May 03 - 11:32 PM

I've been doing the Full time Wife and Mom thing for about 17 years now. Previously I worked with Severe Special Needs kids ( great and appropriate background for a Corporate Wife). Between four kids, big dog and a 100 year old house I spend some time General Contracting repairs and a whole lot of time chaffeuring...For fun, I keep trying to play guitar, garden, dream about how I'd like to fix the house, play with the kids, play with the husband, and hang out at the 'Cat.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST
Date: 28 May 03 - 01:00 AM

Retired -

Investments - primarily defence and health care industries.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Doug_Remley
Date: 28 May 03 - 01:33 AM

Retired, and "busier" than ever in old "real life."


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 28 May 03 - 03:29 AM

...not a damn thing.

RtS


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Gervase
Date: 28 May 03 - 04:09 AM

Anything that will get me some money - in the past year or so that's included bricklaying & plastering, baking bread, gardening, beating on local shoots and taking groups of urban teenagers up mountains to show them what it's like and what they can achieve.
All of which is grand, considering I'm supposed to be making a living as a blacksmith! That's still in in infancy, though, as I'm still garnering the tools, and half the stuff is in store until I get the proper forge going when we move to Wales later in the year.
It does, mean, nevertheless, that money these past two years has been tighter than I've ever known it. My SO and myself have both made abrupt career changes and have paid our way through college (Grants? You must be joking!), surviving on £10K a year. It can be done, but it does rule out fesitvals, though.
Funnily, It wasn't until I was poor that I realised that, for all its liberal , bohemian inclusiveness, the folk world is quite a pricy one to break into, especially with beer costing what it does these days and if you don't live anywhere near decent public transport!
These days I brew my own and sing to myself in the workshop. I do miss the camaraderie of clubs and festivals, though. One day...


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Fay
Date: 28 May 03 - 04:53 AM

Doing a degree in Traditional and Folk Music so getting heavily in debt with student loans. Singing with the Witches brings in some money and I help run a co-operative agency which, when we have any money, pays me something - not quite the rock and roll lifestyle yet but not complaining!

For fun I visit my true lover (lives 5 hours drive away) or play out in my garden. Of course I also drink shed loads of beer.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 28 May 03 - 05:13 AM

I'm a graphic Deisgner

For fun I play music in a band, teach music to kids and adults, walk, garden, diy, draw and lots more...

What I'd like to do for a living is garden and grow seedlings, which since I've been ill I've found I'm very good at

Ella


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 28 May 03 - 05:23 AM

I work for the Inland Revenue (IRS). Most people hear that and dont' hang around to see what I do for fun, which involves cat strangling, sitting on puppies and pulling the legs off flies.

Seriously, I sew, sing, paint glass, embroider, knit, decorate, sell waistcoats and ties occasionally, sit on cats, read, part time mother, full time slob and I like driving.

LTS


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: MARINER
Date: 28 May 03 - 05:36 AM

I'm a retired merchant seaman and partowner/operator of a maritime museum which is housed on the oldest intact Lightvessel in the British Isles.It's a handy "part time" job as we only open to the public for the three "Summer" months!


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST,Lidy
Date: 28 May 03 - 07:08 AM

I make posh frocks (handmade, not sweatshop!!) for my living.
Working from home cunningly allows me to indulge my "for fun", which involves seeing as much live music as is humanly possible. I travel to do that, so the clothes frequently get buttons sewn on on trains, or cut out on my friends' floors when i've arrived early.
My ideal job would be as a wedding dress maker. I would run the business from a small and homely cottage (not too far from London though, as my customers will not want to travel too far), and the brides-to-be would come for weekend-fittings, when they would be treated to the finest hospitality and home-baking, and also be able to not only admire my adorable and intelligent children and well-trained, affectionate dogs; but also envy me for having such a very caring (and attractive) husband, and my own flourishing business.
I am a full time fantasist.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST,Bagpuss
Date: 28 May 03 - 07:21 AM

I'm a researcher - currently working on projects evaluating aspects of child and adolescent mental health services.

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: gnomad
Date: 28 May 03 - 07:51 AM

Penpusher in financial services industry, I'm unsure whether that amounts to a living, or a living death.

Do you suppose Little Hawk needs an apprentice in the rental business?


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Morticia
Date: 28 May 03 - 09:11 AM

We miss you too, Gervase......hope you are in funds again soon


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Mantid
Date: 28 May 03 - 09:24 AM

I've been an Entomologist with the Smithsonian Institution for close to 20 years and can't think of a better career. For fun I collect insects and dance contras and squares.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Beccy
Date: 28 May 03 - 09:46 AM

I'm a homeschooling Mom and wife. It's fun. I always wanted to read for a living, and this is the closest thing I can find to it.
Prior to my current career and life's calling, I worked in advertising (ick) and as a professional chef (ah- grand obsession). I'm much happier doing what I'm doing now. I have the most appreciative audience in the world for my culinary creations- and if they try to send it back to the kitchen, I can send THEM to bed early!!!!!

As for fun? Well, my job as Mom and Wife is great, but for more fun I also read voraciously, play piano, sing, regularly attempt and give up at gardening, cook, sell Avon, quilt, and read some more. Oh- and I play with my stinky, ugly, toothless, fat, deaf old dog that I love dearly. Oh- my husband and I recently built a trebuchet and had a great deal of fun launching rocks into the field across the road from our homestead. So I guess medieval siege weaponry could be added to my list of hobbies :-)

Beccy


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST,madwaff at work
Date: 28 May 03 - 10:04 AM

spend half my time with kids investigating sand-dunes, messing about in ponds and rivers, looking for bugs and beasties in the undergrowth, and the rest trying to raise funds to keep doing it - I'm an 'environmental educator' (posh title, means big kid) working for a charity.... occasionally a freelance illustrator!
for fun - trying to sing and learn guitar, drinking decent real ale wherever it can be found, and reading until it gets light again!
it's hell, but someone has to do it...
madwaff


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST,weerover
Date: 28 May 03 - 10:04 AM

Surprised nobody picked up on John from Hull's unusual occupation (unless they did and I missed it). I now have an image of an enormous tanker steaming up the Humber with a great mass of spicy sauce in the hold - I'm sure there's a song there somewhere ("My bhoona lies over the ocean...?").

wr


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 28 May 03 - 10:12 AM

Public Servant of 33 years standing (sitting?) - very minor. I refuse to go for promotions cos the next level up are supervisors & that's not me - Boss maybe, cos I'm good at being bossy!! but not supervising. I have just moved from the Info area (now a Call Centre, yuk) back to the Library I left 10 years ago & I love it.

In my spare time I run a folk club, help run another, serve on 2 folk committees, make teddy bears, listen to lots of CDs or the radio (I don't have a TV), go to a few festivals, go to lots of singing sessions, & of course spend time on Mudcat each night

sandra


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Kim C
Date: 28 May 03 - 10:44 AM

For a living I shuffle the papers and juggle the last-minute crises of clueless managers and people who don't give a shit. But I get four weeks vacation, and it supports my fiddling habit. And my reading habit, and my knitting habit, and my DVD collection, and my bead addiction... among other things.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 28 May 03 - 11:01 AM

Lidy -- maybe we should go into business together - I've made a few wedding and formal dresses myself!

We could make the whole package.... bride and maids dresses with complementing waistcoats and ties for the groom's party. I've done a bit of floristry too, so we could include that..... I know a fantastic photographer, so we could offer the whole package! It's got to be more fun than what I do now!!

I know the ideal property but it will cost £500,000 and is in Hastings. Mind you, the workshop room is huge, there is space for 3 or 4 B&B rooms and 2 buildings that could be chalets.

LTS


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: 2feathers
Date: 28 May 03 - 11:46 AM

I watch my pension come in.
I worry a lot. (That's my birthright, and I do it well and often.)
And then I watch my pension come in.

For fun....
Singing. All the time. In restaurants. Waiting in line for a movie. Shopping for socks. Not well, but loud.

A joshing answer. Who would be interested in my nefarious career?


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Kim C
Date: 28 May 03 - 12:01 PM

The more nefarious it is, I bet the more people will be interested!

I have a notion to get certified as a personal trainer. I had hoped to take the test this year but other financial obligations have come along. In the meantime, I will keep studying, and get my CPR certification (which I have to have to take the personal trainer exam).

I don't know how good of a trainer I would make, though, as people already don't listen to me... ;-)

Also I have rediscovered that I like to write short stories. Maybe in a few years I will have enough for a book, I don't know.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 May 03 - 12:06 PM

Beccy - You built a trebuchet? Fascinating! I recall them well from playing "Age of Empires", a game in which they are quite deadly.

- LH


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Beccy
Date: 28 May 03 - 01:39 PM

Little Hawk- Building the trebuchet was a hoot. Our excuse for the endeavour was that we're homeschoolers, but the truth of the matter is that we're nerds and liked the idea of having a trebuchet in our yard... Now let's see the Joneses keep up with THAT! Plus, we just wanted to prove that we COULD do it. We ended up using my husband's free weights as our counterweight and cut the sling from a pair of jeans that were chewed up by a rat (see previous rodentia threads.)
It's not large enough for the traditional trebuchet ammo (but hey-- a trebuchet large enough to sling a dead, diseased cow just might fall into zoning violations despite being in the country.) Besides, we have no one to whom to lay siege- with the exception maybe of those folks up the road from us who burn their garbage only when the winds blowing in our direction. Grrrrrr....

Beccy


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: mexican
Date: 28 May 03 - 01:46 PM

I am a busker!


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 May 03 - 01:56 PM

I wonder how far one can hurl a weiner dog with a moderate-sized trebuchet?

(Valdy has been barking for about half an hour, and I can't shut him up.)

- LH


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST, heric
Date: 28 May 03 - 02:15 PM

I saw a trebuchet competition on NPR recently. Buncha engineers and such from several nations all heading to Scotland for a couple of weeks each year (or three?). It was awesome.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: beadie
Date: 28 May 03 - 02:24 PM

I am the living embodiment of the world's most feared greeting.

I am a lawyer.

I work for the government.

And I'm here to help you.

Seriously, I really am a lawyer, but I work for a tiny state agency that keeps nursing homes from beating up on the old folks. We have staff who travel far and wide across fair Wisconsin, poking into the homes and talking with the residents to find out what's happening and who has problems. We then try to help solve those problems. My job is to provide backup legal support for the field staff when they run into a problem interpreting or applying one or more of the regulations.

In a prior life, I was a respiratory therapist working in hospitals.

For fun, I travel with my lovely wife, manage a domestic menagerie (2 dogs, 4 cats, and a ferret), and play an old autoharp and vocalize (I hesitate to use the word "sing").


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Fred Miller
Date: 28 May 03 - 02:41 PM

Kim C, I also work to support my habit of fiddling, except I don't play a violin.

I too have made wedding dresses. As a stitcher for a theatre in cape cod I made a distressable wedding dress velcroed to be ripped apart every night, and go back together again. Every woman should have one.

   In addition to being a seamster, I'm a teamster, and work at ups part time, also work at an oriental rug shop. May be quitting the ups thing next month. I paint portraits of kids.

For fun I come up with absurd yet perhaps viable business plans that I never quite get around to doing. Play for kids a lot, may start busking around this summer.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Dani
Date: 28 May 03 - 04:11 PM

Wow! What a bunch!

I am currently a restaurateur (GOD I wish someone would call me that out LOUD!) since my partner/friend and I and our respective spouses bought a restaurant last year. He and I haven't done a damn thing for fun since then.

But honestly, since the job includes planning, cooking for and serving people, a little teaching, shopping for food, organizing stuff, listening to great music, and a thousand other jobs for my overactive brain, I guess I'm having some fun too.

I'm also a wife and mother, and every day is one great big fat adventure.

For REAL fun, I go to the FSGW Getaway as often as possible. It is SO appropriately named. By the time Autumn rolls around, the word is like a mantra to my soul. Thanks, guys, for not naming it ANYTHING else.

Dani


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST, heric
Date: 28 May 03 - 04:34 PM

beadie: Are you formerly of Missouri (and healthlaw-L)? Or am I thinking of a different respiratory therapist/lawyer?

Dan


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: beadie
Date: 28 May 03 - 04:41 PM

heric:
    A different one,I;m afraid.

    I do know of an RT/JD who used to practice in southern Iowa (and may have migrated) but I never ran into one of us from your fair state.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST, heric
Date: 28 May 03 - 04:55 PM

Well good luck with those nursing homes in any event. There's a noble calling. Dan

(It looks as though we may have the makings of a professional society you could "found.")


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST,member but at work
Date: 28 May 03 - 07:53 PM

Obstetrician-gynecologist.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Walking Eagle
Date: 28 May 03 - 08:27 PM

I'm an academic librarian and a saddlemaster.

I work in a mid size library (1,000,000 or so circulating items) at a mid-size university in S.E. Pa. Childrens' Lit and Native Am erican History. As for a Saddlemaster, I make custom, high end, saddlery and tack for customers who can pay. I also do custom saddlery re-fitting for Civil War Re-enactors. All customers have to pay upfront and in cash. Horse folks are notorious for skunking people.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 29 May 03 - 05:20 AM

I was sure I posted here before but its not here so...

Started off as a Research Chemist got made redundant and went into sport...
via jobs as a student as
postman
Building site Labourer
Shop assisant
Shop porter
Bar Man
Bar Manager
Forrest Guide

Started as a cleaner/assistant/lifeguard now I manage the sports facilities at a College.
Part time roadie and publicity agent for folk duo.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: RangerSteve
Date: 29 May 03 - 07:10 AM

I'm a New Jersey State Park Ranger.

For fun, I'm a musician, but all my jobs tend to be non-paying.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Larkin
Date: 29 May 03 - 07:56 AM

I'm a stiltwalker and I perform mainly in the UK with occaisional forays into europe and beyond , check out my website at here . For fun I sing and play guitar and cittern - mainly celtic music.
Martin


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Beccy
Date: 29 May 03 - 08:46 AM

Little Hawk- I betcha Valdy would FLY in my trebuchet :-) In the immortal words of I don't know who... "Drop kick me Jesus through the goalposts of life."

Beccy


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Alba
Date: 29 May 03 - 09:43 AM

Very Interesting to hear what everyone does to get by on this wee planet. Neat to think that we are all brought together by the Joy of a Tune.
I was a fulltime Musician before coming to Live in the US. I go back to Europe a few times a year to make Music with some Friends. I started out with nothing and Ive managed to hold on to most of it:>)
For an Income here I design and create Stained Glass pieces.
For relaxation I take lessons from my Animal friends who live with us and I enjoy Canoeing, Horseriding and Gardening in the Summer and Cross Country Skiing in the Winter and Playing my Instruments and Singing all year round.
For Stress and Tension I try and figure out how to use this Computer that I bought 6 months ago, it has taught me that I am, without a doubt, very technically challenged:>)


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST,Lidy
Date: 29 May 03 - 09:44 AM

LtS- maybe we should! But can I finish uni first? sadly in my current impoverished student state i cannot really consider the downpayment on a £500,000 house. But if you would like to begin by sending me contact details of any men who might fit the husband bill, then I would be very interested!
lol...
Lidy


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST,CreoleJack
Date: 29 May 03 - 01:49 PM

Being the most fortunate of men, I have spent most of my life in and around the swamps and bayous in Loosana 'round Nawlins. This is what the Maker meant for the world to be like. I have evolved into the world's greatest:

1. cook
2. guide
3. grower
4. fisherman
5. shimper
6. storyteller
7. man ('nuff said)
8. top ten stringed instrument players
9. poet

AND the world's foremost authority on:

1. Loosana
2. food
3. local wildlife
4. music (all kinds)
5. the world in general
6. literature

The only two things I haven't mastered is how:

1. women think
2. politicians become instant liars and low-rents

I have made my living here in Loosana doing what I like and being free.

Jack


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: harpgirl
Date: 29 May 03 - 02:28 PM

...I talk to people who "cut mince pies from children's thighs, with which to feed the fairies!"

and I hike, camp,fish, swim, and make music in la florida, when not paying college bills for my unfledgling.....harpgirl


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Kim C
Date: 29 May 03 - 03:57 PM

Jack, I don't think anyone has figured out how women think. I've been a women all my life and I still don't understand it. Come to think of it, I don't understand how men think either and I been married to one for nigh on to 13 years...


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: rock chick
Date: 29 May 03 - 05:00 PM

I sign for deaf people and assess deaf people in their workplace recommending support and equipment so they can carry out their jobs on a equal basis as any other person.
Desperately want to move to Yorkshire to be with my partner/sole mate, just need to find similar work up there....not an easy task have been trying for some time now, so anyone in the know please contact me.

Live in the South of England at moment, Love my music and play as often as possible, learning fiddle also at the moment.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST,From the Hanging Town
Date: 29 May 03 - 06:22 PM

I am contracted in blood to the local Local Authority. For them I work 85-90 hours a week(ish) - in truth 45-50 (quite a bit of it unpaid)and many weekends and Bank Holidays, so that visitors can enjoy themselves on various weekends of the year - in short - I'm an event organiser!!!

Hobbies - drinking, enjoying the garden and the birdsong, sleeping, listening to traditional folk music - used to sing but confidence went along with opportunity, dog walking, listening to early musicians in wonderfully appropriate buildings, soaking in atmosphere - and then - creating wonderfully appropriate atmosphere for other people to soak things in in - if you see what I mean! (oh, and ...The Archers!)


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Midchuck
Date: 29 May 03 - 08:21 PM

I, also, am a lawyer, but don't go to court anymore. I have an office in one room of my house - just me and the computer and a few file cabinets - and grind out deeds and wills and title searches. I doubt I've ever netted, in any year of my 35+/- years of practice, as much as an entry-level garbage collector in New York City. But I get to be in Vermont, and have no boss unless you count myself, or my wife, or any of the three cats.

For fun, and extra money, I play and sing with Woodchucks' Revenge. We make a couple of thou extra a year, apiece. I spend mine on more guitars.

I also like to:

Bumble about on the internet
Read, mostly sci-fi/fantasy
Cross-country ski
Telemark ski
Hike
Go to festivals
Drink good beer
Drink bad beer if good is unavailable.

Peter


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: 2feathers
Date: 29 May 03 - 08:49 PM

Just reading all this exhausts me. Where do you guys and gals get all the energy ? Must be youth, eternal youth, these are the days, my friend, we think they'll never end....you KNOW they won't end.

Now that I'm older my slippers are black, I huff to the store and I puff my way back.   ('scuse me Pete).   

Well what do OLDER Mudcatters do for fun? Well we like the fact that we do get older. Stopping doesn't seem much fun to me.
I do oil painting. I work very slowly, and am deeply absorbed in the actifvity.
Just put my name on a garden plot 8x8 at the retirement residence and am thinking about what kind of seed will I put in that will grow without much care. (Inch by inch and row by row, gonna watch this garden grow). Off to Home Depot Saturday to pick out some sets. That will use up my Saturday's energy store.
Looking forward to a sing/picnic in the afternoon in a couple of weeks. Can't go to night time sings anymore; the eyes won't let me drive safely at night.

I laugh a lot. Well at least THAT kind of activity lasts and lasts and lasts.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST,Den at work
Date: 30 May 03 - 12:45 PM

I am a Graphic Designer in a variety of media. I currently work in a medium size library system as communications and marketing manager. I helped our library win a John Cotton Dana Award this year and an ALA award for our website promo last year. I used to play music professionally but now just play with friends and my kids. My oldest is learning the drums and my middle one is learning bass. The youngest is still trying to decide what he wants to learn to play. The other day I was jamming with the kids and I showed them this little blues thing. After a while my middle guy says, "this blues stuff is fun Dad, did they have blues when you were a kid"? I said, "believe it or not they did".


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: leprechaun
Date: 30 May 03 - 02:27 PM

I sit in front of a computer for hours. Then I go kick a door. Then I talk to people and bring them to the big brick building. Then I go sit in front of a computer for hours.

Then I do it all again.

Ho Hum.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Merritt
Date: 30 May 03 - 04:09 PM

What a great wierd bunch of people.

I'm a state specialist for university extension with a focus on land use education. This mostly involves providing technical, process, research and teaching support related to community planning and development for our county-based faculty.

In former lives:
~ blue-collar worker the first 10 years after high school
~ disaster response project coordinator
~ different planning, development, research and education jobs in the public and private sectors

For fun (and occasionally profit) I play guitar and sing in solo, duo and larger groups.

- Merritt


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Jazzyjack
Date: 13 Jun 03 - 12:30 AM

Man ,do I love being a folksinger ( semi-pro ) when I read about you guys. The entire spectrum. I'm just a simple school teacher with a humdrum life and no fodder for songwriting .But I have 3 kids who perform and love meaningful music like I do. I host a weekly jam at a night club in Nanaimo, Canada on Vancouver Island ( lotusland for Canadians ) where I think half of the folk era enthusiasts retired to. There is no shortage of places to play. I usually perform solo but have a few guys and gals I met through the jam and my son that I will do harmonies with at some gigs. Life without music? meaningless ! !


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: tooligan
Date: 13 Jun 03 - 03:49 AM

I work for the Clydesdale bank, the inland revenue, customs and excise and a few other free loaders in the pursuit of getting everybody to dress up and have a party. I have a shop on Kirkcaldy High Street in Scotland and also on the web at this   I am also full time at the music playing Scottish stuff for concerts, ceilidhs, kids and cairry oans.

For fun I like to have days off somewhere and do nothing.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: mike the knife
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 11:43 AM

I am the Promotions Director for a local/regional restaurant chain. I have worked in sales, broadcasting, advertising, as "professional" jobs- and when I was living in Germany (for no real good reason other than I just wanted to go), I worked in retail, was a bartender/waiter/cook, tour guide, construction worker, and finally wound up working in radio in Berlin. In my spare time I scribble on pieces of paper with a pen, throw boomerangs and am learning the Lap Dulcimer. And beer. Good beer.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 12:04 PM

artist writer

if people understand my stuff or not...


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: C-flat
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 12:36 PM

Up until the last 5years I've been in wholesale, retail and blackmail. The original box-moving man! Bankrupt stock, fire damaged goods, anything that I could move from A to B and make a margin on (within the law of course).
Then I realised that I was killing myself with stress and opted for a more sedate lifestyle. Still working (mortgage and family etc.) but not wheeler-dealing anymore. I work with my brother-in-law in a small finance company but I sometimes miss the excitement of a good deal; Forty tons of German firelighters (Kolenenzunders) at £5 per ton or 10,000 games of Monopoly at 50p each to find a buyer for.
I can't watch Fools and Horses without a wry smile!


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Big Mick
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 12:54 PM

Profession and addiction: Union Organizer, Community Activist, political advisor/activist, part time professional musician.

For fun: Make music, play golf, make music, coach my daughters soccer (football) team w/ 10-11 year old girls , make music


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Amos
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 01:17 PM

This weekend the real work was tearing out an old bathroom including ripping up old lino tiles from an ancient floor. Groaaaan. For posture I go to an office where I get called names lilke "Senior System Analyst". This never amounts to much. My real value added is in tearing out old bathrooms and helping choose tile and replacement cabinets etc., by encouraging as many mind-changes as necessary to acheive domestic tranquility.



A


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: jacqui c
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 01:57 PM

I make a living dealing with motor injury claims for a fairly large Insurer Actually, I'm lucky because I enjoy the work (you occasionally get to shaft solicitors!).

That pays the bills and lets me indulge my hobbies -music, films - especially sci-fi, voluntary work, grandchildren, reading and to spend time with my friends - a very important part of my life. At the moment I'm contemplating retirement in a few years time and the possibility of studying psychology, just for fun. Actually, with that in mind, I'd love to study John from Hull although it would probably drive anyone mad trying to work that one out. John - it takes real brains to produce such bad typing and to be so crass. I salute you mate!


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 09:10 PM

Actually, I'm a hit man for the mob.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Amos
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 09:59 PM

Rapaire:

This sounds intuitively truthful -- but which mob??

A


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 08:17 AM

I used to work for the Purple Gang out of Detroit, but after I had a hit record I left Motown and freelanced. At the moment I'm working for RIAA, doing hit after hit.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Amos
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 08:44 AM

ooooo noooooo, mister hands!!!

Is that your final answer?


A


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: jimmyt
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 10:42 AM

I practice family dentistry which allows me the luxury to mess about with all kinds of music. I play upright acoustic bass and sing in a 4 member harmony group, ala Kingston trio style music, I also have a 4 man do-wop group doing mostly accapella 50s-60s music. I mess about with a bit of jazz, but am still in the learning stage, as the jazz folks tend to play a lot of weird keys! I perform in several productions yearly in community theater. I love trad music and listen to it as much as possible. My passion is travel. Hope to meet lots of catters in Banbury this fall if I can arrange to get it on my travel schedule.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 05:29 AM

Librarian at Giessen, Germany (near Frankfurt/Main). For 30 years librarian of the Oriental Institute's library, since 2001 transferred to University Library, in charge of the Oriental Library, too.
There are 3 other librarians in this thread, greetings to them all.
For fun: drummer with the fifes and drums of a volunteer fire fighters' department.
Had my first and only personal gig when playing the bass drum with a sinfony orchestra performing Brahms' Acadeic Ouverture at the age of 58.
In former times I used to sing (boy scouts, church choirs) and play the bass tuba, till I was severely injured and lost both voice and breath. Started a new career as a percussionist with a triangle, even wrote a solo piece for triangle (3 movements) for the Hallingburies, near Bishop's Stortford, UK.

Wilfried


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 05:37 AM

Before starting as a librarian I earned my money as student:
henchman for food deliverers, on building sites and street taring,
but the best work was co-driver delivering beer for several breweries (got 3 liters a day without the other bottles picked up inadvertently, hence the pot belly).
Also academic teaching (introduction to islamic studies and writing Arabic for about 15 years in the Oriental Institute).

Wilfried


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Alasdair
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 05:41 AM

I work for a biotch firm in sales and marketing. for fun... beer, music, the occasional spliff, clubbing in London, folky stuff when I go home to see me mum & dad... that kind of thing


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST,Pete Peterson
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 08:41 AM

Retired chemist, spent 31 years after getting a Ph.D. working in industry working first on tires, then agricultural chemicals (natural pesticides, made in a fermentation tank isntead of a chemical factory) and finally on germicides and disinfectants. Retired a little early and unexpectedly. . . and have now concluded that I am Retired and not simply Unemployed. I did some tutoring last year and THAT was fun and may try to get back to it as school starts.

Playing lots of music with the Well Tempered String Band (q.v.)and with friends, "specializing" in the Carter Family and Charlie Poole.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Paul G.
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 05:40 PM

Corporate Compliance Manager and Privacy Officer for a large multi-state not-for-profit health care system. Basically I try to make sure our people play by the rules and keep their mouths shut...

For fun I play a lot of music, listen to a lot of music, tinker at landscaping and birding, start irrational arguments, tease my grandson, annoy Mrs. G. and sip good red wines as often as possible.

pg


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: harpgirl
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 05:58 PM

Here is what I am when I fantasize:

Radio station owner and operator
Coffee cart owner and operator
Poet
Music therapist

Only employed because I work for myself. Wouldn't have it any other way..neither would anyone else! I'm notoriously difficult! But hey, at least I'm not a wimp! Around here I get NO RESPECT for my profession of thirty years so I won't bother talking about it!

I play autoharp, sing and fool around with a few other instruments. It looks like I may be teaching autoharp along with Bryan B and Cheryl Belanger at the next autoharp/dulcimer retreat at Stephen Foster Park in Novemeber . Ya'll come. It's a great time to visit Florid-duh!   

harpy the difficult


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST,skippy
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 06:25 PM

neighmond?
where you involved in the purchase of one of europe's most hidious clocks less than a week ago?
if so thanks, Folkforms did very well out of that
regards skippy


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST,skippy
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 06:30 PM

Am I the only 25 years served ex military mudcatter out here?
25 years Royal Air Force - (airframe technician)
last ten years as a maint manager in the plastics industry


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Reiver 2
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 08:01 PM

I'm retired now, age 73, have been a farm worker, factory worker, social worker, teacher (college and university), Park Ranger (National Parks and AZ State Parks) plus a number of other things, too numerous to mention. Born in WI, have lived in CA,OR,NM,UT and now AZ in the U.S. and also in B.C. Canada. Love history and Irish and Scottish music, after being a regular "folkie" for many years.

Reiver 2


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: akenaton
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 08:26 PM

Im a stonemason come builder Awhile ago I built a new alter for the local chapel What a laugh.....and me an atheist too...


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: boldreynard
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 11:00 AM

Having been a bookseller and editor, I am now a stay-at-home father. Over the past few months, however, I have turned into an on-line retailer, selling toys and folk art from Germany, most of which my (German) wife and I import to America. If anyone is interested, the site is here.
In my spare time, I try to convince my wife to let me buy instruments I don't know how to play, and to teach my children as many songs as their little heads can hold. The latter is more of a success than the former, which is probably best.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 03:54 PM

I started out in college with very fuzzy ideas of becoming a writer, and if that didn't work out, I didn't have a fallback plan. I guess I just assumed I could muddle through somehow. Fell in with small group of folk music enthusiasts (Claire Hess, Walt Robertson, Sandy Paton, and three or four others). This was in the early Fifties. There were rumblings, such as a couple of songs recorded by the Weavers making the Hit Parade and the fact that when Burl Ives did a concert at the UW's Meany Hall it sold-out, but no one had any idea that folk would suddenly become a big pop-music fad. We figured it would stay in its own little ghetto, sort of like jazz. I started getting a few gigs (singing at a meeting of librarians, a reunion of retired airline stewardesses, a museum fund-raiser, that sort of thing), then I was asked to do a series of TV shows sponsored by the Seattle Public Library on what is now this area's PBS affiliate. About that same time coffeehouses were opening up around here and probably as a result of the TV series, I was suddenly in demand. I made a marginal but thoroughly enjoyable living until the mid to late Sixties by doing more television, singing regularly in coffeehouses and clubs, doing a bunch of concerts, and teaching guitar, both private and class lessons.

In the mid-Sixties, the character of the whole thing changed. Folk was out, the Beatles were in, the whole scene became inundated with drugs, and the coffeehouses started folding. Also, I was tired of having such a sporadic and unpredictable income that I couldn't plan ahead very easily. Boeing was hiring, so having a few drawing skills, I went to work for them as a production illustrator (sort of like drafting, but a bit looser). Got laid off with the rest of the world in the early Seventies when Boeing cut it's work force from 102,000 to 35,000 (famous sign on the outskirts of Seattle: "Will the last person to leave please turn out the lights?").

While working at Boeing, I knew I didn't want to do that for the rest of my life, so I took some broadcast training in the evenings. Fresh out of Boeing, I got a job as a radio announcer. Straight DJ at first, then as a rush hour traffic reporter ("Disabled vehicle in the northbound lanes of I-5 on the ship canal bridge. Traffic backed up as far as the Mercer on-ramp. Avoid the area if possible. . . ."). Over the next eight years I worked for five different radio stations as an announcer, newscaster, news director, copy writer, and producer. Stations kept changing formats and announcing staff (any time the ratings came out and they didn't come in as high as they thought they should) and I decided that although it was a lot of fun, it was a very unreliable way to try to make a living.

So I went to work for the phone company (Ma Bell) as an operator (from broadcasting to narrowcasting). Bad move. I hated that job with a purple passion. The surroundings were pleasant, the pay was reasonable, and the bennies were pretty good, but you were little more than a galley slave chained to an oar. You got politely shat upon no matter what you did. Keep the customer contact as brief as possible ("You're spending too much time with some of the customers."), but always be polite, helpful, and amiable ("You're being too abrupt. Try to be more friendly."). A labor report I once read said that because of the contradictory demands of supervisors, the most stressful job was telephone operator, followed by flight traffic controller. After the divestiture (deregulation of telephone companies in the mid Eighties) Ma Bell went on a name-changing binge and laid off a bunch of people, including, fortunately, me. Never so glad to be unemployed in my life!

I got a job with an accounting firm that was under contract to do residential weatherization inspections for the Bonneville Power Administration. They wanted someone who knew word processing. This was mid-Eighties and not all that many people were familiar with computers, but I'd been dinking with one for a couple of years, and was attempting to write a science fiction novel with WordStar on my KayPro II. The BPA wanted big stacks of residential inspection reports from twenty-two different Public Utility Districts in the state boiled down to one cohesive six-page report per district. Most of it was boilerplate. All I had to do was fill in the figures, write a few comments, most of which were supplied by the inspectors themselves, and print it out. I "polished up the handle so carefully that they made me the ruler of" public information for the Washington State Oil Help weatherization program (which is to say, I answered customer questions on the 800 number information line while word-processing reports for BPA). Both programs fizzled when the contracts were not renewed, and the job came to an end.

During the time I was looking for another job, I managed to do a little fandango and broke a leg. Since I was already walking on crutches (polio at age two), this put me in a wheelchair. This was around 1990, and despite the ADA and Equal Opportunity Employment acts and all that, a 59 year-old-guy in a wheelchair ain't gonna get hired real quick. A counselor at the Department of Vocational Rehabilitation said, "You're not getting Social Security Disability Income? You could have been getting all this time!" She didn't add "you dummy!" but I'm sure she was thinking it. "It isn't all that much, but you could just retire, you know."

So I did ("They gave me a pension of ten pence a day, and contented with shellucks, I live on half-pay."). Now I'm learning a whole lot of songs I never got around to, practicing fairly regularly on the guitar (trying to regain some of what I lost while working "day jobs" for a couple decades or so), and even though I have to get around on wheels, I'm actually getting a few gigs. One coming up about mid-September, providing some of the background music for a poetry reading?very "Ken Burns" type of presentation. I'm also writing a book of reminiscences, "memoir" or whatever, of the folk scene as I muddled though it, and I've had a few magazine articles published here and there. Some of these long things I post on Mudcat serve as drafts for other stuff I'm working on. These days I'm writing a lot! You may have noticed.

I'm still trying to figure out what I want to be when I grow up.

Much more than you ever wanted to know about anyone. Thanks for putting up with me.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Amos
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 04:57 PM

Don,

Thanks, man. That was a real postm if y'know wha I mean.

A


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: MBSLynne
Date: 22 Aug 03 - 04:49 PM

I grow and sell herbs, give talks on them, milk cows, deliver directories. Before I gave up work (!) to be a Mother I was an artificial inseminator (of the cattle kind). I have also been an office clerk, a milk delivery person, a strawberry picker, a chamber maid, a waitress, a stocktaker, a tupperware sales lady.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Kelly
Date: 22 Aug 03 - 06:45 PM

I've done just about everything. My first job was as a dishwasher in a small sicilian bistro, then I proceeded through the Restaurant section of the yellowpages in my hometown (Charlottesville, Virginia) until I'd graced the kitchens and floors of most area italian and greek joints.

From there, I was a live-in caretaker for an old slovenian woman, in NYC, who taught me how to curse in Slavic, which most illogically propelled me into a brief stint as a head chef in an Illinois nursing home. From there, I found my way to a trendy healthy-fast-food (yes it exists) and smoothie shop in an orlando mall, followed closely behind by a return to Virginia for grocery-cashier, Domino's pizza driver, J-Crew phone order taker, and a sprinkling of freelance webdesign. A few months later it was fuel stations and daycares in Dallas, TX, then working at the same Virginia school as my pops (Allan C.) but in a different department, babysitting expensive AV equipment.

Then it was off to Silicon Valley, this time to babysit a 24 year-old dot-com millionaire (personal assistant), then back to VA to work -for- my pops at the aforementioned college. Then *struggles to remember* ah yes, more greek restaurants, a rib joint, and off to New Orleans to work in the same damn rib joint that Id worked at in VA.

That died out quickly and led me to SoCal, and CopyMax doing the same work Id done with pops, then a long stretch of unemployment and illness, chased by a reasonable stay as the Director's assistant for a major rock-band and corporate promotions company.

Then back to Dallas where I did five months (yes, DID, as in felt-like-a-prison-sentence) as a junior designer at a low-end dot com, which I ran screaming from, and two days later stopped running when I ran smack dab into a contracted government job processing fatalities (sometimes very depressing) for the US Dept of Labor's Occupational Safety & Health Administration. I've been at OSHA for 9 months now and plan to be there til I finish school (4 years) and can meander back to Northern California to be a Kindergarten teacher.

*Takes a breath and goes to rest her over-typed fingers*


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Rosebrook
Date: 22 Aug 03 - 11:51 PM

I'm currently running a welfare-to-work job training program. The program has a 50% no show rate, and most folks come in kicking and screaming. I've found that many people who are mandated to do something, even if it's good for them and will help them earn more money, don't wanna. But the people who become engaged in the program and complete it are making major life changes, and I find working with them very gratifying.

Before that I coordinated a Career Resource Center. Resume writing, assisting with job search, conducting mock interviews, etc. I love helping people go to work.

For fun: playing hammered dulcimer/recorder mostly Celtic music, writing, spending time with family and friends, helping local folk music society put on contra dances (begging callers and musicians to come to this remote part of the state for very little money but lots of hospitality and fun), going to the gym, visiting Mudcat but posting very rarely.

Rose
(dubbed 'Resume Rose' by my colleagues)


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 23 Aug 03 - 12:17 AM

Retired

I get one mill (1/20 US cent) for a particular POP-UP advertisment that remains on a computer screen for five (5) seconds or more. The trick is placement.

I also get one tenth of a mill (1/200 US cent) for every successfully delivered E-Mail.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 23 Aug 03 - 12:54 AM

ResumeRose- Your second post for 2003 and your first post of the night



Glad too see you have found greener pastures.



Sincerely,

Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 23 Aug 03 - 11:19 PM

I work at a local park district as a janitor. I took the job because it allowed some flexibility for me to take off if some chances to play music arose (I do the job to support my music habit). I've been at it over 18 years because of that. Many song arrangements have occurred because I had an idea while sweeping a floor. I never thought I'd be there that long. Inspite of myself, I will actually get some pension benefits. Besides, it's another job you can do with a liberal arts college degree in English lit. The band has managed to be able to travel a lot over the years and we've played some great gigs and met some wonderful people.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Gurney
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 02:54 AM

Jobbing handyman, domestic and factory maintenance. Best job I've ever had, own boss, usually interesting, rarely boring, sometimes frightening (not that fond of heights) but not awfully well paid.
Been a miner, soldier, insurance man, factory worker, and helped assemble a LOT of cars, Jaguar, Morris, Daihatsu, Honda, and a warehouse supervisor. Assembled that, too.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Gilly
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 07:07 AM

Im a postwoman in Bolton nw england.


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Auxiris
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 06:53 AM

I translate things, mostly from French to English and once in a while from English to French. Otherwise, I hybridize tall bearded iris and play music.

cheers,

Aux


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Rosebrook
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 10:23 AM

Hey Garg,

(I would send this as a PM - seems more appropriate, but you have guest status) Through the midst of all the controversy over the years, I've enjoyed your clever posts, your confrontations, your questionings. You've had a lurky ally. But I gotta tell you man, it spooks me out that you are aware of this being my 2nd post in 2003. Maybe I haven't been lurking in stealth mode as well as I had thought.

I have found the pastures are greener mostly offline.

Rock on, (or folk on, or whatever turns you on,)
Rose


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: katlaughing
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 01:54 PM

Rose, if you click on your name in the heading of any of your postings, it will take you to a listing of your postings by date. Anyone can do so on anyone's name. Nice to see you around.

kat


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: PeteBoom
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 02:31 PM

I keep people honest - in all my jobs.

Software QA is the "factory" job. I also teach percussion. Up until a year ago I played in a Scots-Irish folk band. Left that and the pipe band I started (I also started the folk band) to pursue other interests.

Found the "Other Interests" and now commute to Windsor, Ontario weekly, to play in the Windsor Police Pipe Band, Grade 2.

Cheers - Pete


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Subject: RE: What Do Mudcatters Do For A Living?
From: Garry Gillard
Date: 30 Aug 03 - 07:01 AM

I teach/research Australian Cinema.

Garry


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