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Books That Most Influenced You

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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: John Hardly
Date: 26 Jun 03 - 09:25 PM

sorry for the typos.


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 26 Jun 03 - 09:34 PM

The most obvious book is the Bible, above all others. The Little Prince has stayed with me since the first time that I read it, and I still find myself remembering key sentences.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Amos
Date: 26 Jun 03 - 09:46 PM

Thanks, Jerry!! I had forgotten all about Saint-Exupery. Not so much Little Prince, although i enjoyed it, but his Vol de Buit gave me shivers and made me want to join the Explorers' Club!

I also have to say that Richard Bach is a writer I always found room for. And while I am making bald-faced confessions, I also love Clive Cussler!

A


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: SINSULL
Date: 26 Jun 03 - 10:32 PM

The very earliest?
Grimm's Fairy Tales and Bullfinch's Mythology

The fairytale I studied over and over again was about two sisters Rose Red and Snow White. Not the two who befriend a bear but two who ahave magic powers and are chased by a witch with seven league boots (she lived under my bed and I still sometimes dread to put my feet on the floor at night). The problem I always had with it was if the sisters had enough magic power to turn themselves into roses, how could they have not had enough sense to choose the same color. Thewitch sees one white rose on a bush of red roses and plucks it knowing she has caught at least one of them.

Greek mythology (I snuck the unopened book from a friend's house) was a secret place all my own. No one else was interested. I had Jason and Medea, Hercules, centaurs, minotaurs, Medusa, Pegasus, etc. all to myself. And gradually I started to see relationships between my own religion and mythology. By the age of ten I had decided to learn Latin and Greek and study Classical literature.
I also found that same theme of forgetfulness, foolishness, whatever, bringing down hero after hero. Theseus "forgets" Ariadne and leaves her deserted on an island. Oedipus, who has been told that he will kill his father and marry his mother, "forgets" and marries a woman old enough to be his mother after accidentally killing her husband. DOH! Pandora, warned not to open the box, does anyway. And why is "HOPE" the only thing left in a box of evils? Is HOPE the ultimate evil. Fatal flaws, hubris, family relationships, mores,...

I was always told "You think too much". But I never regretted getting sucked into that particular line of thought.

Later? Ayn Rand. Robertson Davies. Clive Cussler. Jane Austin. Trollope. Faulkner. Sir Richard Burton. The Bronte Sisters. And any piece of horror trash I can get my hands on though Steven King bores me to tears except for The Shining - book not movie.


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: DonMeixner
Date: 26 Jun 03 - 11:30 PM

Robert Heinlein's books, every one of them but Stranger in a Strange Land amazed and thrilled me. Kept me reading as a child. From there I went on to Mars (Barsoom) and Zitadars and Thoats. I came to appreciate the importance of having a friend with four arms in a sword fight.   Ayn Rand's Anthem was the first book I read where the importance of the indiviual was primary. Then I read The Fountainhead.
Skiffs and Schooners by Pete Culler and Sensible Cruising Designs by L. Francis Herreschoff are never far from the reading lamp. Neither are Horatio Hornblower or Louis LaMour. And now and then I'll crack open the Bible.

But for all round ripping fun and carry - me - back reading I'll go to the stack of Long Boxes in the closet and get a run of Jack Kirby comics and waste a rainy afternoon.

Don


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Amos
Date: 26 Jun 03 - 11:37 PM

I'm sorry -- I have to add Joshua Slocum to my list. He only wrote onebook but it was a dilly. I've read it three times and never put it down without regret that I don't have it to read anew.

A


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: DonMeixner
Date: 26 Jun 03 - 11:47 PM

AH, "Sailing Alone Around The World." Amos, you might try "The Voyage of the Snark" by Jack London and then "Down the Alimentary Canal With Gun and Camera," by Robert Benchley, art by Gulyas Williams.

Don


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Metchosin
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 12:31 AM

When I was 10 or 11, animal stories by Sir Charles GD Roberts or stuff like Beautiful Joe, as a teenager, The Second Sex by Simone de Beauvoir, Silent Spring by Rachael Carsons and To Kill a Mockingbird.

Read a whole slew of great science fiction during that time too, such as More Than Human by Theodore Sturgeon and other classics. I thought it was more of an escape than an influence, but on second thought, it probably had a more profound affect than I realize.

Since then, I have read so many others, some better described as great literature by comparison, but the stuff I read during my childhood and youth had the most impact.


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 12:50 AM

The Joy Luck Club is a book I can highly recommend. I am also impressed by a number of the great writers of westerns, such as L'Amour, Zane Grey, and the guy who wrote Hombre and many others.

Another great book is Watership Down.

- LH


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 01:54 AM

I forgot about Grimms Fairytales! Still have the same book.

Later on: Letters of a Woman Homesteader by ELinore Pruitt Stewart which gave me the strength to believe my stories of the prairie might be of interest, too; Waiting for the Galactic Bus & Snakeoil Remedy, both by Godwin some of the best sci-fi I've read, MUCH better imo than Douglas Adams:-); He, She, It by Marge Piercy; The Handmaid's Tale - Margaret Atwood; Thendara House - MZ Bradley, those last three had a great influence on my finding a stronger voice for myself and women in general.

While I don't read the Bible, I do love the Metaphysical Bible Dictionary by Charles Fillmore. I find it fascinating to read of the actual Aramaic and symbolic meanings of the names, etc. of the Bible.

The Dictionary, forever and always, ever since I can remember, big time influence!


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: fat B****rd
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 02:27 AM

It's a pleasure, Katlaughing. OK it's 'fess up time.....after reading all the books then available I wanted to be a certain spy/ special agent now played by Mr. Brosnan.


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Metchosin
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 03:26 AM

Spaw, great to see that To Kill a Mockingbird did it for you too. When I was in Grade 10, I presented an oral book report on it.

Oral book reports were the thing I feared most in my young life. Partly because I usually bullshitted my way through most of them, as I rarely read what was on the prescribed school list and dreaded being discovered for the charlatan I was. Also, because I was excruciatingly self consciousness and shy.

Too Kill a Mockingbird was not required reading, in fact it was probably deemed not suitable for our age group, by the very conservative school I attended.

I finished the rogue report, expecting the worst. As I stood at the front of the class, the teacher commented, "Susan, you didn't read that book!" I thought to myself, "Oh Geeeeez, but I really did read this one!" "You didn't read it," he intoned, "You lived it."

I hadn't realized it, but my report had gone right through the bell that had ended the English period and not one student in the class had risen to leave.

I got my first A for a book report.


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Metchosin
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 03:33 AM

and probably my only one.


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: kendall
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 05:28 AM

Tale of Two Cities (Dickens(
Horatio Hornblower (C.S. Forrester)
Time and the riddle (Howard Fast)


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Peter T.
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 08:57 AM

There are also certain books associated with crucial moments: I remember doing a cycling tour of England and Ireland my first summer of university, and one day in Brighton I think I decided to stock up on books for the rest of the ride. I got a whole pile of must read Penguin modern classics, in the days when they had those beautiful greygreen paperbacks (why they mucked around with those perfect designs I still do not know, the older classics series in black was flawless, and then they started adding crap on the spine and then threw the designs to the wind, sorry, where was I?). Anyway, the books got into my pack and were poured rain on, and smunched up, but the whole rest of the trip was really woven through with these books I had never read, and are now associated with different landscapes -- Portrait of a Lady, Tender is the Night (the first half is even more perfect than Gatsby, if such a thing is possible), Passage to India, To the Lighthouse, Sound and the Fury, Those Barren Leaves. Time to read them again, I think!

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: zanderfish3 (inactive)
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 10:14 AM

SINSULL you should try Stephen King's ' The Green Mile ', very moving
Cheers, Dave


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Amos
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 10:18 AM

To the Lighthouse and Passage to India!! I had buried them in my ignored memories pile, Peter. Thanks for the reminder!

A


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 11:03 AM

Fat Bastard, me too, only it wasn't from reading them as much as seeing the movies when I was fairly young. Anything which had clandestine activities in it, esp. the old WWII movies and 007 made me want to be a spy even more. I used to play at it all of the time! Of course I was the only woman, surrounded by men; I even had one scenario as a resistance fighter living in a cave in Greece, though I was Scottish?! Ah, imagination is a wonderful thing, isn't it?

Way to go, Mets!

Also, forgot to mention Round the Bend by Nevil Shute. His best, imo.


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Allan C.
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 01:43 PM

Nobody who knows me well could avoid learning of my love for Mark Twain's writings. While nearly everyone recognizes his humor and some make note of his cynicism; few credit him with the marvelous descriptive powers that are so often evident in his writings. Someday I hope to be able to produce lines such as those he used in the chapter about the "pirate" adventure on the island in "The Adventures of Tom Sawyer":


About midnight Joe awoke, and called the boys. There was a brooding oppressiveness in the air that seemed to bode something. The boys huddled them- selves together and sought the friendly companionship of the fire, though the dull dead heat of the breathless atmosphere was stifling. They sat still, intent and waiting. The solemn hush continued. Beyond the light of the fire everything was swallowed up in the blackness of darkness. Presently there came a quiver- ing glow that vaguely revealed the foliage for a moment and then vanished. By and by another came, a little stronger. Then another. Then a faint moan came sighing through the branches of the forest and the boys felt a fleeting breath upon their cheeks, and shuddered with the fancy that the Spirit of the Night had gone by. There was a pause. Now a weird flash turned night into day and showed every little grass-blade, separate and distinct, that grew about their feet. And it showed three white, startled faces, too. A deep peal of thunder went rolling and tumbling down the heavens and lost itself in sullen rumblings in the distance. A sweep of chilly air passed by, rustling all the leaves and snow- ing the flaky ashes broadcast about the fire. Another fierce glare lit up the forest and an instant crash followed that seemed to rend the tree-tops right over the boys` heads. They clung together in terror, in the thick gloom that followed. A few big rain-drops fell patter- ing upon the leaves.

"Quick! boys, go for the tent!" exclaimed Tom.

They sprang away, stumbling over roots and among vines in the dark, no two plunging in the same direction. A furious blast roared through the trees, making every- thing sing as it went. One blinding flash after another came, and peal on peal of deafening thunder. And now a drenching rain poured down and the rising hurricane drove it in sheets along the ground. The boys cried out to each other, but the roaring wind and the boom- ing thunder-blasts drowned their voices utterly. However, one by one they straggled in at last and took shelter under the tent, cold, scared, and streaming with water; but to have company in misery seemed something to be grateful for. They could not talk, the old sail flapped so furiously, even if the other noises would have allowed them. The tempest rose higher and higher, and presently the sail tore loose from its fastenings and went winging away on the blast. The boys seized each others` hands and fled, with many tumblings and bruises, to the shelter of a great oak that stood upon the river-bank. Now the battle was at its highest. Under the ceaseless conflagration of lightning that flamed in the skies, everything below stood out in clean-cut and shadowless distinctness: the bending trees, the billowy river, white with foam, the driving spray of spume-flakes, the dim outlines of the high bluffs on the other side, glimpsed through the drifting cloud-rack and the slanting veil of rain. Every little while some giant tree yielded the fight and fell crashing through the younger growth; and the unflagging thunder- peals came now in ear-splitting explosive bursts, keen and sharp, and unspeakably appalling. The storm culminated in one matchless effort that seemed likely to tear the island to pieces, burn it up, drown it to the tree-tops, blow it away, and deafen every creature in it, all at one and the same moment. It was a wild night for homeless young heads to be out in.


Or, expressing my own admiration for his humor, I would also love to be able to capture moments such as those observations he made of his early days as a cub pilot of a riverboat and his increasing admiration of Mr. Bixby, the master pilot in "Life On the Mississippi":

It was a rather dingy night, although a fair number of stars were out. The big mate was at the wheel, and he had the old tub pointed at a star and was holding her straight up the middle of the river. The shores on either hand were not much more than half a mile apart, but they seemed wonderfully far away and ever so vague and indistinct. The mate said:-
`We`ve got to land at Jones`s plantation, sir.`
The vengeful spirit in me exulted. I said to myself, I wish you joy of your job, Mr. Bixby; you`ll have a good time finding Mr. Jones`s plantation such a night as this; and I hope you never WILL find it as long as you live.

Mr. Bixby said to the mate:-
`Upper end of the plantation, or the lower.?`

`Upper.`

`I can`t do it. The stumps there are out of water at this stage: It`s no great distance to the lower, and you`ll have to get along with that.`

`All right, sir. If Jones don`t like it he`ll have to lump it, I reckon.`

And then the mate left. My exultation began to cool and my wonder to come up. Here was a man who not only proposed to find this plantation on such a night, but to find either end of it you preferred. I dreadfully wanted to ask a question, but I was carrying about as many short answers as my cargo-room would admit of, so I held my peace. All I desired to ask Mr. Bixby was the simple question whether he was ass enough to really imagine he was going to find that plantation on a night when all plantations were exactly alike and all the same color. But I held in. I used to have fine inspirations of prudence in those days.



I'd also like to emulate the well-mixed cynicism and humor of "Captain Stormfield's Visit To Heaven". In this scene he has just been admitted into heaven:

When I found myself perched on a cloud, with a million other people, I never felt so good in my life. Says I, "Now this is according to the promises; I`ve been having my doubts, but now I am in heaven, sure enough." I gave my palm branch a wave or two, for luck, and then I tautened up my harp-strings and struck in. Well, Peters, you can`t imagine anything like the row we made. It was grand to listen to, and made a body thrill all over, but there was considerable many tunes going on at once, and that was a drawback to the harmony, you understand; and then there was a lot of Injun tribes, and they kept up such another war-whooping that they kind of took the tuck out of the music. By and by I quit performing, and judged I`d take a rest. There was quite a nice mild old gentleman sitting next me, and I noticed he didn`t take a hand; I encouraged him, but he said he was naturally bashful, and was afraid to try before so many people. By and by the old gentleman said he never could seem to enjoy music somehow. The fact was, I was beginning to feel the same way; but I didn`t say anything. Him and I had a considerable long silence, then, but of course it warn`t noticeable in that place. After about sixteen or seventeen hours, during which I played and sung a little, now and then - always the same tune, because I didn`t know any other - I laid down my harp and begun to fan myself with my palm branch. Then we both got to sighing pretty regular. Finally, says he
"Don`t you know any tune but the one you`ve been pegging at all day?"
"Not another blessed one," says I.

"Don`t you reckon you could learn another one?" says he.

"Never," says I; "I`ve tried to, but I couldn`t manage it."

"It`s a long time to hang to the one - eternity, you know."

"Don`t break my heart," says I; "I`m getting low-spirited enough already."

After another long silence, says he
"Are you glad to be here?"

Says I, "Old man, I`ll be frank with you. This AIN`T just as near my idea of bliss as I thought it was going to be, when I used to go to church."


Certainly there are other authors whom I admire; but none so much as Mark Twain. I hope you'll forgive my lengthy pastings here. There was no way to link to these excerpts directly and I know there are some among you who haven't explored this man's wonderfully diverse writings.


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Art Thieme
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 04:33 PM

Thomas WolfE has an "e" on the end of his name. Of course, I knew that.

Art ;-)


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: chip a
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 04:43 PM

Allan C

You made my day. Just wonderful. Thanks.

Chip


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 04:52 PM

Amos, do I have a present for you:

"Sailing Alone Around the World was Slocum's third book, the first being The Voyage of the Destroyer about the delivery of a warship to the Latin American country that had bought it, and the second The Voyage of the Liberdade which tells the story of how, with his wife and family, he was shipwrecked on the coast of Brazil, and then set about building a boat that carried them back to the U.S.A. "

http://www.arthur-ransome.org/ar/literary/sloc2_0.htm


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: GUEST,shonagh
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 05:14 PM

Last year I read Hamlet in High School, that was good!

Ive just finished reading the "Rhanna" Series and the "Kings Croft" Series by Christine Marion Fraser. Rhanna is a wee island(made up!!) and all about the folk that live there, their problems and how they overcome them. Kings Croft is the same, but about a family. Made me cry, made me laugh, made me wish I was so diffenent but also made me thank god I am the way I am! Fantastic books!

Also, I read Sophies World a few years back. Amazing!!


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Beccy
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 05:42 PM

The Bible
Sense and Sensibility (Jane Austen)
Little Women (Louisa May Alcott) as a child...
The Little Prince (Antoine de Saint Exupery)
A Wrinkle In Time (Madeleine L'Engle) again as a child...
The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (C.S. Lewis) again as a child...
Mere Christianity (C.S. Lewis)
On Joy (C.S. Lewis)
The Hobbit, The Lord of the Rings trilogy (J.R.R. Tolkein)
The Screwtape Letters (C.S. Lewis)
Pilgrim's Progress (John Bunyan)

That's my short list... but I have to say that everything I read has influenced me in one way or another. It's just that these are the ones that stand out in my mind as having meant a lot to me or clarified my thinking or informed me about universal truths.

Beccy


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: alanabit
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 05:47 PM

Ah Allan C! Another Mark Twain fan. I am a huge fan of Huck Finn, as must be obvious from my earlier posting. I also think the A Connecticut Yankee At The Court of King Arthur and the stunning The Mysterious Stranger are also masterpieces - albeit a lot darker.
    It was good to be reminded of John Steinbeck's brilliance by Ron Olesko. Along With Grapes of Wrath, Of Mice and Men and The Pearl, I read the lesser known The Winter of Our Discontent. It is set in the fifties or early sixties and is an equally haunting story set in small town America.
    I am enjoying this thread. It's reminding me of lots of good stuff.


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Beccy
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 05:49 PM

I forgot to say that just about anything by Pearl S. Buck is up there...
Beccy


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Amos
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 05:58 PM

Heric:

Oh, Joy!! I mever imagined!! What a treat!

Thanks very very much!


A


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 06:08 PM

Why I am not a Christian, Bertrand Russell.


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Gareth
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 07:00 PM

Hmmm ! Books and why ?

Well, and they are obscure but politically -

"In Place of Fear" - Nye Bevan

"A Candle in the Darkness" - Jenny Lee. I very much, very much, regret lending my autographed copy of this out - It was never returned.

Both political tomes - but dealt with practicalities

And C S Foresters Novel - "The General" predated the "Hornblower series - but as an analysis of a the thinking and sense of duty of an Army Officer, well it's without measure - get it fron your libuary and read, then re read.

And then there's the early (on publication date) C s Forster Hornblower series, "A Happy Return", " Ship of the Line" & "Flying Colours" - I can and do read them and read them again. I must confess that when I have a problem, if the answer is not clear I sit down and ask myself, 'What would Hornblower have done ?'

I would also bring to your collective attention some other Forester Novels

"Brown on Resolution" a study of duty and obligation, as is "Death to the French, aka The Adventures of Rifleman Dodd"

Foresters Novel "The Good Shepard" - a narrative of a USN Officer, stressed to the limit by his own limitations.

And "The Ship" - an examination of the mental processes of individual crew members of an RN light Cruiser, escorting a Convoy into Malta.
Possibly, just possibly, based on the history of HMS "Penlople".

Enjoy your reading !!!!!

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: jacqui c
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 07:16 PM

So many books - so little time! I'm reading Lord of the Rings at the moment - tried it a few years back and couldn't get into it but now.....

I think I've read everything Stephen King has written, my favourite being The Stand, classic good and evil. Science fiction in general, i've read the whole Dune series and will be starting on the prequels written by his son soon. Some Dickens - picked up Our Mutual Friend and couldn't put it down but never managed to finish Tale of Two Cities or Bleak House. I also like Jilly Cooper's books as light relief. A friend has recommended Pullman's Dark Materials trilogy - has anyone read it?

While we're on this one, has anybody out there got past the first chapter of Hawking's Brief History of Time????


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Amos
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 09:16 PM

I got through it, Jacqui, but I gave my copy away and have clean forgotten everything I learned from it. I guess I wasn't studying it for use, eh?

A


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Padre
Date: 28 Jun 03 - 12:02 AM

"The Confessions" of St. Augustine, because it showed me that no one is beyond the reach of God's grace.

   "Seek for yourself, O man; search for your true self. He who seeks shall find himself in God."


Padre


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: chip a
Date: 28 Jun 03 - 12:05 PM

Yes, The Winter of Our Discontent.Travels With Charlie. Cannery Row. EAst of Eden. Everything Steinbeck wrote.
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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Desdemona
Date: 28 Jun 03 - 12:09 PM

Definitely "Alice in Wonderland", I've read it every few years or so since I was 9!

Most of Shakespeare, plays and sonnets; "Wuthering Heights"; "Huckleberry Finn"; "Tom Sawyer"; "Pride and Prejudice"....well, Jane Austen full stop, really; "Lonesome Dove" (a truly brilliant novel); "The Waning of the Middle Ages"; "The Grapes of Wrath"; most of EM Forster ("Maurice" being a notable exception); "The Lord of the Rings"; "The Chronicles of Narnia"; "Good Omens"; seemingly millions of med/Ren history texts.....one could go on forever....


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Amos
Date: 28 Jun 03 - 12:11 PM

East of Eden, which I rediscovered last year, is breathtakingly beautiful. I concur about Steinbeck.

This is off the original topic, buit in terms of sheer prose mastery I think Steinbeck is among the giants. Another one I rediscovered recently is John Cheever. His stories are written with a magic wand.

A


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Carly
Date: 28 Jun 03 - 01:09 PM

I've resisted getting into this, because I am sure my list could include thousands of titles, but I can't keep quiet, so here goes...

My earliest childhood (I began to read at 3) was spent with Pooh and Christopher Robin, and all the Oz books I could find. Dr. Dolittle taught me to pay attention to animals; they have things to say to us.

Louisa May Alcott's Eight Cousins and the sequel, Rose in Bloom, seemed to speak to me, more so than her more famous books. Likewise, what stuck with me in Kipling was Captains Courageous and a short story ,Baa Baa Black Sheep ,that had me sobbing all over the pages.

When I was 10, Arthur C. Clarke blew me away with Childhood's End, and sometime shortly thereafter Heinlein's The Moon is a Harsh Mistress started me thinkng about the nature of the soul.

To Kill a Mockingbird has already been discussed here--I agree with everyone, it is one I reread periodically.

Did I mention our son's name is Samuel Clamons? (No, his middle name is not Langhorne.)

Dorothy Sayers proved to me that murder mysteries could be engaging, thoughtful and beautifully written; Gaudy Night is a gem of a book in any genre.

Mary Renault, in the King Must Die and The Bull from the Sea, gave me new ways of looking at beloved myths, and Michener's The Source opened for me the world of archaeology.

Escaping now and again into Jane Austin's world helps give me perspective on this one, and I love her prose and her humour.For pure escape into a complex time and place I've never found better than MM Kayes The Far Pavillion-- Kim with a love story!

There are so many more.....


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: GUEST,Susst
Date: 28 Jun 03 - 01:37 PM

Gayle Sheehy the first one all about the troublesome twenties
etc. Damm now I'm a "Path Finder"- must read that one or is it
trail blazer.

The chemistry of love by? - all about avoiding men want to be
your papa etc.
Damm I met them!

Oh yes and of course the Odyssey


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: alanabit
Date: 28 Jun 03 - 03:05 PM

Thanks for reminding me of CS Forester's The Ship, Gareth. I have read it twice. It is probably something to do with the fact that my father and maternal grandfather were in the Royal Navy and I went to the Royal Hospital School for four years. There is something about being taken so thoroughly inside the minds of sailors on WW2 ships which I found irresistable. Two other books which did that for me were Monserrat's "The Cruel Sea" and Alistair MacLean's "HMS Ulysees".
The latter choice may raise some eyebrows here, but I rate it as a book. MacLean had served on the Russian convoys and he knew what he was talking about.
I am surprised that no one has mentioned anything by Somerset Maugham or Oscar Wilde. In particular, Oscar Wilde's childrens' stories are memorable. I was barely able to read "The Selfish Giant" to my daughter without choking on it. There, what a great softie I am really!


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Sam L
Date: 28 Jun 03 - 07:02 PM

Nice--I keep hoping to hear more of how these books affected people, like that.

BigPinkLad, my little sister did a book report on Russell's WIANAC in 5th grade and carries a grudge to this day about being scolded for it in front of the class.

People don't like Russians much, it seems. My wife and I had a fun time reading War and Peace together. It's so engrossing it's nice to read in parallel with somebody. It influenced us together I think.

   I liked reading the Little House books to my daughter, had never read them, and they're pretty good. I think they suit that family cocooning mode when your kids are small, when you have a renewed appreciation for life's basic necessities.


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Amos
Date: 29 Jun 03 - 02:43 AM

War and Peace was a major peace of my puzzle. The Red and the Black was also. So was Madame Bovary. I can't say they were electric the way that Ayn Rand was but I felt grounded by them, as though they helped me understand what living life meant...

A


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: MAG
Date: 29 Jun 03 - 03:05 AM

Thanks for reminding me about Joyce, guys. I know it's a "guy" book but the language is just magical. I needed to read it about three times in the course of my English major, and kept on reading it about once a year for a long time, until my life got too complicated. Stream of consciousness seems to mesh with the random abstract nature of my own thought processes. It was liberating to see that people wrote that way. What was that futuristic Russell Hoban novel written in stream of consciousness and an evolved English language?

I'm afraid I hated *Gone with the Wind* when I read it at 16 yrs. I had already been recruited into the civil rights mvmt by the radical thrology students from Princeton (thanks, guys) and the racism turned me off. I never have seen the movie, except for excerpts in movie docs.

On the advice of my best friend in high school I tried Ayn Rand. nope. I was already too far gone. And what is wrong, I still say, with testing out a new invention and assessing its impact on everything before blundering ahead??

I still dive into too much (quality) escapism. I love Bujold's Miles Vorkosigan sagas, and heaved a sigh of relief when he finally fell in love with someone who reciprocated. C.J. Cherryh is another I like, though I liked her earlier things with language better than the piled-up angst stuff she writes now.

To space out and take my mind to a place it needs to go I read Rumi.

But, like I said, I'm a reading addict. This is why I don't practice more and why my house is such a pit.


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 29 Jun 03 - 03:59 AM

I learned a whole heck of a lot of trivia and quite a few life attitudes from John D. MacDonald's books--not just the Travis McGee novels, but his other stories as well. His characters were/are real.

There is a sentence in Michener's Drifters that impressed me a great deal, and still reminds me not to judge people by their surface persona. After a couple of hundred pages of consistently portraying the narrator as a serious Establishment wimp, Michener has him say, in a casual throw-away comment, something about "the last time I ran with the bulls [in Pamplona, Spain]". One sentence, yet it changed the way I thought about that character and his comments for the rest of the book. It's my understanding that the narrator (whose name escapes me, sorry) was patterned on Michener himself. I read that novel when I was about the same age as his characters, and Lord, I wanted to go buy a yellow pop-top Volkswagen bus and go to Europe! (I'm still thinking maybe one of these days...)

All Mary O'Hara's horse books: Thunderhead, My Friend Flicka, Green Grass of Wyoming, Walter Farley's Black Stallion stories, and Farley Mowat's Never Cry Wolf and The Dog Who Wouldn't Be. And of course The Yearling, already mentioned.

Actually, I can't recall any one book that "influenced" me. I think the fact that I've always read everything I could get my hands on is the "influence" you're asking about. There have been many, many worlds I've taken part in through books that I wouldn't have been able to touch any other way.

Thanks for the memory tweak, Peter T.

Lin


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Amos
Date: 29 Jun 03 - 10:24 AM

Lin:

I didn't discover Farley Mowat until about eight years ago and I love all his books. 'A Whale for the Killing ' was a heart-stopper. Thanks for the tweak yerself! :>)

A


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: MAG
Date: 29 Jun 03 - 11:13 AM

I also forgot about Nevil Shute's *On the Beach.* May have been my first serious push towards No Nukes. and I was talking about *Ulysses,* of course, above.


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Peter T.
Date: 29 Jun 03 - 11:20 AM

People sort of look at me as if I am being arrogant when I say that I try and reread War and Peace every couple of years, but it really is so good, you get completely lost in it. Andrei, Peter, and Natasha are so real, and the whole story is so vast. I admit to skipping some of the theoretical chapters from time to time (enough already). If you can get maps of the Napoleonic period and the battles, it is even better.

The BBC War and Peace is perhaps the best transfer of a book to the screen I have ever seen. It is now available on video for about 100 dollars. Do yourself a favour and rent or buy it. If you haven't read the book, it is the nearest thing. Morag Hood, who was Natasha, died a few months ago, of what I am not sure, she wasn't very old. A great pity, she was so beautiful, and the perfect Natasha.


I forgot "Crime and Punishment" on my top list. I remember reading it at 16 and realizing that I was capable of terrible things. Always a good thing to know, when you are young and idealistic.
yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Amos
Date: 29 Jun 03 - 01:07 PM

PT

How could I forget my faskination with Raskolnikov...sheesh!

We be of one blood, ye and I!!

Thanks for a terrific thread!!


A


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: fat B****rd
Date: 29 Jun 03 - 02:31 PM

When I was about eight years old my late father borrowed "Mein Kampf" from a "Chap at work" for me to read. I didn't because I thought it was boring, but occasionally I wonder how much influence that might have had if I'd read it....by the way my dad was a lovely bloke, he bought me a studded leather belt for my tenth birthday !!


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: alanabit
Date: 29 Jun 03 - 02:39 PM

I read a couple of pages of Mein Kampf many years ago and was struck by the pomposity of its style. You can't get it in Germany unless you can show a very good scholastic reason for possessing it. I would like to read it out of curiosity, even though I am aware that it is a very bad book in many different ways. On the basis of what I read, I would say that writing, along with painting and politics was another bad career choice for the unpleasant little Austrian.


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: Shelley C
Date: 29 Jun 03 - 02:41 PM

When I saw your list, Beccy, I wondered why I ever gave away my copy of 'A Wrinkle in Time' by Madeleine L'Engle. I guess at the time I thought I had grown too old for it.
What a great book! As a kid in the sixties it was great to read a book with a strong female lead character. It has an exciting plot which literally transports you to other worlds. It also has subtle messages about individuality and the power of the state.   

Another book I loved at the same time was 'Marianne Dreams'. I forget who it was by. It didn't influence my ideas as much as 'A Wrinkle in Time', it just had a cracking plot. Again it had a strong female lead character - that was a bit of a rarity back in the sixties. Anyone remember it and who wrote it?

ShelleyC


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Subject: RE: Books That Most Influenced You
From: jacqui c
Date: 29 Jun 03 - 02:55 PM

Mag - you've reminded me of Shute's On The Beach. I read that one just before the Cuban Missile Crisis and spent a number of years afterward, when I had my children, scared stiff of nuclear war. That was one very powerful book! The thing it taught me,in time, was that there are two kinds of worry, those you can do something about, so do it, and those you can't do anything about, so why worry?

Amos - I will have to try Brief History again - do you think it made any real difference to your life? I have a friend who insists that it is required reading, but I'm not sure that I believe him!


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