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Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall

maldenny 27 Jun 03 - 03:03 PM
maldenny 28 Jun 03 - 12:58 PM
GUEST,Tunesmith 28 Jun 03 - 03:48 PM
Helen 28 Jun 03 - 08:12 PM
Bob Bolton 29 Jun 03 - 05:45 AM
maldenny 29 Jun 03 - 11:45 AM
Bob Bolton 30 Jun 03 - 09:09 AM
rich-joy 02 Jul 03 - 05:31 AM
maldenny 02 Jul 03 - 06:05 AM
Sandra in Sydney 02 Jul 03 - 09:21 AM
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Subject: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: maldenny
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 03:03 PM

Anyone out there got an LP of a folk concert in Melbourne Town Hall in the early 1960's? It has songs by Martyn Wyndham-Read, Trevor Lucas, Brian Mooney and others, and was my first exposure to Australian folk songs. If popssible, I'd like to borrow it for a week or so - I used to have one but lent it out ages ago and would now like to make a CD of it (for home use only!). I would happily pay UK postage, but don't suppose there's likely to be (m)any copies in the UK - I bought mine in Australia in 1963.

Mal Denny


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: maldenny
Date: 28 Jun 03 - 12:58 PM

Wish I hadn't lent it out now - must be really rare!

Mal


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 28 Jun 03 - 03:48 PM

I lent someone my copy of Trevor Lucas's "The Overlander". I can't remember who I lent it to, and I never got it back. It's worth over £100 now! Not that I'd sell it - if I had it.


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: Helen
Date: 28 Jun 03 - 08:12 PM

Maybe this will give you info on the concert tapes you are looking for.

Victorian Folk Music Club inc

You can contact the VFMC and they may be able to point you in the right direction to find a copy.

While you are at that site you might want to also look at the history of Nariel Creek Folk Festival, which is the oldest folkfest in Oz starting in 1964, and which we didn't quite get to in December last year but managed to get to the post-festival few days of camping with the stragglers.

Helen


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 29 Jun 03 - 05:45 AM

G'day Helen,

That link to the VFMC is probably the best contact for Maldenny. I'll run the reference past Phyl Lobl, when I ring her tonight. She's currently putting together contributions from Folkies about the Victorian scene in those days for an obit on Glen Tomasetti - a very active singer, feminist and social conscience of those days.

Phyl was about the Victorian scene, as Phyl Vinnicombe, from around that date until she married and moved to Sydney in the early '70s ... and many of those she is contacting at the moment were also there ... and on this recording.

Regards,

Bob bBolton


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: maldenny
Date: 29 Jun 03 - 11:45 AM

Thanks for the info, Helen and Bob. I'll follow up those leads - it's not too easy to find traditional Australian music here in Cheshire!
Reading the website info, I might be a couple of years early with the date, blame it on an alcoholic haze at the time (then, not now).


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 30 Jun 03 - 09:09 AM

G'day again Mal,

Phyl could not place the particular recording ... indeed was surprised that any concert recording would get released as an LP back then! She says that it would be likely to be released by (Alan ...?) Mann of Discurio records - if anyone.

I looked through my bound set of the Victorian Folk Music Club / Folk Lore Society of Victoria magazine Tradition ... there is no mention of a discography in the index (songs and articles only) ... but I know that Wendy Lowenstein did such a discography of Victorian recordings. I hoped I might find an ad for the record - but no luck.

I'll keep an eye out for some clue.

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: rich-joy
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 05:31 AM

Martyn Wyndham Read / Brian Mooney / Glen Tomasetti did an album for W&G - Singing Together series (c.1965?) - "Will Ye Go Lassie Go? And Other Folk Songs", but Trevor Lucas didn't seem to get a guernsey that time ...

Cheers!
R-J


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: maldenny
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 06:05 AM

Been revelling in nostalgia recently with the postings from Australia - thanks for the efforts on my behalf. I had a really good time there in the '60s and was made to feel really welcome (I seem to remember a folky place called Frank Traynor's). David Lumsden was also on the Melbourne LP, I found his name recently on an Australian folk site - wonder if he's still got a copy, must be one of his first recordings?

In trying to find my original copy, I found the chap I lent it to died about 3 months ago! Can't really write to his widow, saying "Did he mention anything about a record of mine before he went..... ?"

As I'm not likely to get a copy of the original, any suggestions for current CDs of good old traditional Australian folk songs, so I could mail order them. Apart from Martyn Wyndham-Read and a couple of CDs kindly sent by Rob Willis, I'm limited to copies of "While the Billy Boils" and "Songs from the Wallaby Track" which I bought in charity shops on recent trips to London.

Thanks anyway,

Mal


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 09:21 AM

Mal - the National Library has released some collections recently - www.nla.gov.au
The Rambleers - old Wattle records of the 50's - Harry Kay, Alex Hood, Barbara Lisyak, Chris Kempster, Denis Kevans.
Sharing the Harvest - Field recordings from the Meredith Collection (double CD)

Australian Folk Archive Vintage Folk recordings - Declan Afflay
enquiries - Dave Brannigan 61 3 9762 2435

lots of good stuff from 2 outlets -
Trad&Now magazine - www.tradandnow.com (the magazine is great, too) - check out us not them & Collector & Wongawilli for traditional songs & music

SA Folk Fed - www.folktrax.com

Dave de Hugard recently released Songs of the Wallaby Track & there are also several CDs of traditional music from Victoria which I can't find at the moment
got one - Take me back to Bendigo, produced by Peter Ellis (3CDS) the other title is something like Music of the Diggings (Bob Bolton will know)

Gary Shearston - Only Love Survives

all of these are likely to be vailable from Folktrax or T&N

I can pm e-mail contacts for Dave de Hugard & Declan's cd if you want them

sandra


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: GUEST,alinact
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 10:07 AM

Gee, all this talk of Discurio is making ME nostalgic. I bought most of my records from that shop (located in a lane between Little Collins and Bourke Sts. Melbourne, if my memory is correct) during the 1970's.

I have 3 LP's and 1 EP released on Discurio Records. They feature Martin Wyndham-Read, Danny Spooner, Gordon McIntyre, Phyl Vinnicombe (mentioned above) and others. I won't be home for another couple of weeks, but if anyone is interested in track listings, etc., I'll post them then.

Allan


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 09:37 PM

G'day alinact,

One or other of those Discurio releases may well be the one that Mal Denny is seeking. I would be interested to get details of them as well (PM to me - if not really Mudcat material) to update a bit of a database of early folk recordings in Australia.

Mal (and G'day Sandra): There are quite a few good CDs appearing at present - some new releases by interesting new voices on the Australian folk scene (such as Us Not Them ... Chloe & Jason Roweth) ... some old material gathered up into CD compilations (like the National Library releases Sandra mentions)... some established performers who are still around and doing both old and new songs (Dave de Hugard's new CD is very nice ... I have sent copies to a few of my cyber-friends on Mudcat - it's one of the few CDs I can unreservedly send to overseas friends! Anyway, I see that Rob Willis was got that one to you.) Phyl Lobl (neé Vinnicombe) has a CD retrospective, going right back to an EP from the '60s ... as well as another CD of her later material.

I have been meaning to respond to your request for suggestions ... but waiting until I can sort through piles of unclassified CDs. I get a lot of CDs ... buying them / review copies / direct gifts from singer friends ... and I am currently working out how to store / sort / classify / catalogue them more effectively. The main problem is devising / building a more efficient and flexible storage system. (All commercial systems suffer from the delusion that you have a static collection that never needs resorting!) I have to do a sort tonight to work out which CDs are next to be reviewed ... so I might suggest a few ... perhaps by PM, as it might be taking up space unecessarily in the main forum.

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: GUEST,Phil
Date: 03 Jul 03 - 03:16 AM

I have a record of a concert at Melbourne Town Hall in the early sixties with most of the performers mentioned. Also at the concert were Lionel Long and Leonard Teale but they didn't appear on the record as they were under contract elsewhere. The cover is white with black printing - sort of basic.

Could this be what you are looking for?

I won't get back home for a few days so I can't confirm the details.


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: maldenny
Date: 03 Jul 03 - 05:12 AM

Sandra, I would like a PM for a contact for Dave and Declan's CD please, and I'll be following up some of the other links - thanks to you and Bob also.

Phil's record sounds like the one I remember. As it's obviously not well known, even in Melbourne, it's nice that a copy has turned up for the discologists. Maybe someone could do a reissue!

Mal


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: rich-joy
Date: 03 Jul 03 - 06:39 AM

Hey Bob! can you please give more details about this "obit for Glen Tomasetti" - we've not heard about her going, here in Maleny ...

Thanks, R-J


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 03 Jul 03 - 08:42 AM

G'day Rich-joy,

I got an e-mail from Margret RoadKnight last week ... no details at the time. I contacted Phyl Lobl ... and she had the same bare notification. I've been helping Phyl with some scans from archive Tradition copies as I can't remember taking any of my own photographs of Tina.

DaveA, on this site has PM'd me ... and had not heard of Tina's death - but knew she was not well in many respects. I'll catch up on Phyl's progress (she is getting contributions from many who were influenced by Tina)... probably tomorrow.

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: GUEST,alinact
Date: 03 Jul 03 - 12:33 PM

Bob

I'll be back home 14 July and will post the info as soon as possible after that.

Allan


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: GUEST,Denis
Date: 30 Mar 05 - 10:26 PM

Hi Mal,
I would love to buy a copy of A Wench & A Whale.
Any clues as where I should look.

Regards,

Denis.


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: Stockman
Date: 29 Nov 08 - 01:26 AM

It was "Australian Folk Night" Recorded live at the Melbourne Town Hall. W&G Records WG-25/5043. There is a CD (Lyric Records 2005) at the Victorian State Library but my guess is that this is simply an LP rip for research record purposes. I have seen a reference that it was recorded in 1966 but I reckon that it was actually 1969/1970 that I attended the performance.
The LP is not that good because it has become crackly and poppy over the years and it was not exactly a great recording in the first place. I will do a rip sometime as there was be virtually no chance that it would be released on commercial CD.


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: The Doctor
Date: 31 Jan 11 - 09:58 AM

I've just come across this thread by accident, while looking for something else. I have all of the early MW-R LPs tranferred to CD, including the Australian Folk Night if anyone is still interested.


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: Hrothgar
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 08:31 AM

I was tidying up some bits and pieces this evening and came across a photocopy of the record jacket. I think this means I have a tape or a CD of the record somewhere - I have a lot of stuff in boxes downstairs at the moment, so finding it could be a challenge.

Track list:
Botany Bay - Peter Laycock, Brian Mooney, David Lumsden, Martyn Wyndham-Read
Jim Jones at Botany Bay - Doug Owen
Moreton Bay - Martyn Wyndham-Read
Old Black Billy - Denis Gibbons
Flash Jack From Gundagai - David Lumsden
The Stockman's Last Bed - Lenore Somerset
Wild Rover No More - Bush Band (Merle Gubbins, Jim Buchanan, Peter Dickie, Ian White, David Taylor
The Overlander - David Lumsden, Peter Laycock, Brian Mooney, Martyn Wyndham-Read
The Old Bark Hut - Peter Laycock
Flow On Sweet Mitta - Lenore Somerset
Song of the Aboriginal Girl - Doug Owen
The Wild Colonial Boy - Brian Mooney
The Old Bullock Dray - Denis Gibbons
Brisbane Ladies - Brian Mooney, Peter Laycock, David Lumsden, Martyn Wyndham-Read
Waltzing Matilda - Full cast and audience

Now I'll have to dig it out - when I have nothing to do.


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 07:43 PM

wishing you free time!


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: Paul the Stockman
Date: 03 Feb 11 - 04:49 AM

You can find my rip of this album at:-
http://australianfolk.blogspot.com/2009/01/various.html


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: Andrez
Date: 03 Feb 11 - 04:55 PM

Had'nt seen your blog before Paul. Nice work!

Cheers,

Andrez


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 04 Feb 11 - 01:44 AM

Paul's blog


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Subject: RE: Folk songs at Melbourne Town Hall
From: Joybell
Date: 04 Feb 11 - 08:44 PM

I had that record. Can't think where it went. Brings back memories.
Cheers, Joy


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