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Joe Offer 15 Aug 98 - 07:40 PM
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Joe Offer 18 Aug 98 - 03:29 PM
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Subject: Lyr/Tune Add: SWEET ROSEANNA (Bright Light Qt)^^
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Aug 98 - 07:40 PM

Sweet Roseanna
Words and Music collected by the Bright Light Quartette (Lawrence Hodge, Arnold Fisher, James Campbell, Robert Beane, Shedrick Cain), and Alan Lomax. © Copyright 1960, Ludlow Music, Inc.

Oh, Ro-se-anne, sweet Ro-se-anne,
Bye bye my Ro-se-an-na
I'm goin' away, but not to stay,
And I won't be home tomorrow.

Chorus:
Bye bye, Bye bye, Bye bye, Bye bye,
Bye bye my Ro-se-an-na
Bye bye, Bye bye, Bye bye, Bye bye,
And I won't be home tomorrow.

I thought I heard the captain say,
Bye bye my Ro-se-an-na
Don't you want to go home on your next payday?
And I won't be home tomorrow.

The steamboat's comin' round the bend.
Bye bye my Ro-se-an-na
A-loaded down with fishermen,
And I won't be home tomorrow.

(verses below added by the Bright Light Quartet of Weems, Virginia)

Sweet, Ro-se-anne, sweet Ro-se-anne,
Bye bye my Ro-se-an-na
I thought I heard my baby say
I won't be home tomorrow.

Sweet, Ro-se-anne, my darlin' child
Bye bye my Ro-se-an-na
Sweet, Ro-se-anne, my darlin' child
And I won't be home tomorrow.

The steamboat's comin' round the bend.
Bye bye my Ro-se-an-na
It's loaded down with harvest men,
I won't be home tomorrow.

Don't you want to go home on your next payday?
Bye bye my Ro-se-an-na
Don't you want to go home on your next payday?
And I won't be home tomorrow.

I'm goin' away, but not to stay
Bye bye my Ro-se-an-na
I'm goin' away, but not to stay
But I won't be home tomorrow.


(Pete Seeger spells the name "Rosyanne")

MIDI file: SWEETR~1.MID

Timebase: 192

Name: Sweet Roseanna
Text: By Bright Light Quartette and Alan Lomax
Copyright: Copyright © 1960, by Ludlow Music
Tempo: 160 (375000 microsec/crotchet)
TimeSig: 3/4 24 8
Start
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End

This program is worth the effort of learning it.

To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here

ABC format:

X:1
T:Sweet Roseanna
M:3/4
Q:1/4=160
K:C
G2G4|E2E4|E2E4|C2C4|E2E2E2|F4E2|E2D4|-D4D2|
D4C2|B,4G,2|A,2A,4|G,4G,G,|D4D2|E4D2|D2C4|
-C4c2|c4G2|G4E2|E4C2|C6|E2E2E2|F4E2|E2D4|
-D4B2|B4G2|G4F2|F4D2|D4G,G,|D4D2|E4D2|D2C4|
-C7/4||



Source: "Collected Reprints from Sing Out!" ^^


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Subject: RE: ADD LYRICS: Sweet Roseanne
From: Barry Finn
Date: 17 Aug 98 - 11:35 AM

Joe, I don't believe the authorship you list can be correct this song was very well known in the Caribbean & also used as a net hauling shanty in the Manhaden Fisheries which by the 60's was dyiing out. If I can find more I'll post. Barry


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Subject: RE: ADD LYRICS: Sweet Roseanne
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Aug 98 - 02:21 PM

Hi, Barry - The blurb the Sing Out! booklet had with the song was rather confusing, so I think the song could warrant more research. As I understand from the blurb, Lomax heard the Quartette sing this song and credited it to them, although only the last five verses actually came from the Quartette. I can't find the song in any of the Lomax songbooks, so I couldn't find out what Alan Lomax had to say.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: ADD LYRICS: Sweet Roseanne
From: Barry Finn
Date: 17 Aug 98 - 05:12 PM

Hi Joe, I can't find much through Lomax either. Some of the Manhaden Chanymen doubled as professional musicains/singers & taking on gigs with others & singing with the Searchlight four, the Morning Star Quartet, Beaufort's Community Male Chorus, the Black Diamond Quartet & the Fulcher Brothers & although I know nothing of the Northern Neck Chanty Singers (another group from the Manhaden Fisheries) I have no reason to think that they wouldn't be just as musically diverse, so as to how Rosianna came to or out of them I'd sure be interested. In comparing another shanty, Pay Me The Money down, a West Indian shanty, Hugill believes there was a connection to the more recently popular Pay Me My Money Down (made popular by who else Pete Seeger), as it turns out this (Pete's version) came from the Georgia Sea Islands (note that above the Bright Light Quartet was out of Virginia, close to both the Georgia Sea Islands & the Manhaden industries) , Lomax collected in both these areas, he should have more on this, just can't find it. There's quite a strong musical connection, specially sea music, between the Outer Islands & that area of the eastern seaboard, & the Caribbean & West Indies, aside from Lomax & Abrahams there hasn't been alot done with this connection. Any more Joe, i'd be interested, if I get more I'll post it. Barry


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Subject: RE: ADD LYRICS: Sweet Roseanne
From: Bob Schwarer
Date: 18 Aug 98 - 08:52 AM

I recall an album by John Townley(& the Press Gang?). Something about 4 centuries of songs related to Chesapeake Bay. This song is on that disk, although probably spelled differently. I think "Sweet Roseanna"

Bob S.


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Subject: RE: ADD LYRICS: Sweet Roseanne
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Aug 98 - 03:29 PM

One more tidbit: In Henscratches and Flyspecks (1973), Pete Seeger says Lomax collected this song from Negro fishermen of the Virginia tidewater country. I take it that's the area around the Great Dismal Swamp, which is just north of the area Barry's referring to.
Oh, and Seeger has a different syncopation to the rhythm, and says it's the way the song should be sung. Comin' right up. I hope MIDITXT can handle the syncopation.-Joe Offer-


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Subject: Tune Add: SWEET ROSEANNA (Bright Light Quartette)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Aug 98 - 03:58 PM

MIDI file: SWEETR~2.MID

Timebase: 192

Name: Sweet Roseanna
Text: By Bright Light Quartette and Alan Lomax
Copyright: Copyright © 1960, by Ludlow Music
Tempo: 160 (375000 microsec/crotchet)
Key: D
TimeSig: 3/4 24 8
Start
0000 1 69 110 0160 0 69 000 0032 1 69 110 0336 0 69 000 0048 1 66 110 0094 0 66 000 0002 1 66 110 0432 0 66 000 0048 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 66 110 0336 0 66 000 0048 1 62 110 0094 0 62 000 0002 1 62 110 0624 0 62 000 0048 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 67 110 0478 0 67 000 0002 1 66 110 0094 0 66 000 0002 1 66 110 0094 0 66 000 0002 1 64 110 0816 0 64 000 0048 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 64 110 0336 0 64 000 0048 1 62 110 0094 0 62 000 0002 1 61 110 0432 0 61 000 0048 1 61 110 0160 0 61 000 0032 1 61 110 0336 0 61 000 0048 1 59 110 0094 0 59 000 0002 1 57 110 0432 0 57 000 0048 1 64 110 0094 0 64 000 0002 1 64 110 0094 0 64 000 0002 1 64 110 0336 0 64 000 0048 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 66 110 0478 0 66 000 0002 1 64 110 0094 0 64 000 0002 1 64 110 0094 0 64 000 0002 1 62 110 1008 0 62 000 0048 1 74 110 0094 0 74 000 0002 1 74 110 0432 0 74 000 0048 1 69 110 0094 0 69 000 0002 1 69 110 0432 0 69 000 0048 1 69 110 0094 0 69 000 0002 1 69 110 0432 0 69 000 0048 1 66 110 0094 0 66 000 0002 1 66 110 0432 0 66 000 0048 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 67 110 0336 0 67 000 0048 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 66 110 0094 0 66 000 0002 1 64 110 1008 0 64 000 0048 1 73 110 0094 0 73 000 0002 1 73 110 0432 0 73 000 0048 1 69 110 0094 0 69 000 0002 1 69 110 0432 0 69 000 0048 1 67 110 0094 0 67 000 0002 1 67 110 0432 0 67 000 0048 1 64 110 0094 0 64 000 0002 1 64 110 0352 0 64 000 0032 1 64 110 0046 0 64 000 0002 1 64 110 0046 0 64 000 0002 1 64 110 0336 0 64 000 0048 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 66 110 0336 0 66 000 0048 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 62 110 0912 0 62 000
End

This program is worth the effort of learning it.

To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here

ABC format:

X:1
T:Sweet Roseanna
M:3/4
Q:1/4=160
K:D
A2A4|FF5|F2F4|DD5|-D2F2F2|F2G4|-GFFE3|-E6|
E6|-E2E4|DC5|C2C4|B,A,5|EEE4|E2F4|-FEED3|
-D6|D2d4|-d3d3|-d2AA3|-A2AA3|-A2FF3|-F2F2F2|
F2G4|F2FE3|-E6|E2c4|-c3c3|-c2AA3|-A2GG3|-G2EE3|
-EE/2E/2E4|E2F4|E2E2D2|-D6|D3/2||

The ABC rendition above is only an approximation, but the MIDI will be accurate if it is converted back through TXT2MID.
-Joe Offer-^^


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Subject: Lyr/Tune Add: SWEET ROSEANNA (Bright Light Quartet
From: Barry Finn
Date: 19 Dec 98 - 04:17 AM

I mentioned in the recent Parting Song's thread that I'd post the words to this, from the singing of the Menhaden Chanteymen but Joe had already Offered them up in an old thread so I'll repost Joe's old post. Hope it'll someday find it's way into the DT (strong hint). Here goes.


    Repeat deleted after threads were combined.
    -Joe Offer-

As mentioned in the old thread, it shoud've read collected from the Bright Light Quartette.

A few more verses:

Bye bye, bye bye & that hope be long.
Bye bye my Rosie Anna.
(repeat 1st line)
I won't be home tomorrow

Roseanne, Roseanne you are so sweet
Roseanne, Roseanne, My darling child
The streetcar run right by my door
The steamboat come around the curve
She's loaded with the harvest girls
Farewell, farewell, my darling child

Joe, still haven't run across more info than what was in the old thread. Barry

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 16-May-02.


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Subject: Lyr Add: Roseanna
From: EBarnacle
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 12:04 PM

I am a little surprised to find that Roseanna is not yet a listed song. Here's a version Lady Hillary does:

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ROSEANNA

Oh Roseanne, my Roseanne,
Bye bye my Roseanna,
Oh Roseanne, sweet Roseanne,
I won't be home tomorrow

Bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye,
Bye bye my Roseanna,
Bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye,
I won't be home tomorrow

Our ship is a-sailing at break of day,
We're bound away across the bay.

Our ship is a-sailing around the bend,
All loaded down with fishermen.

Well a dollar a day is a fisherman's pay,
Its easy come, easy go away.

Our ship is a-sailing across the bay,
We won't be back for manys the day.

So Roseanne, sweet Roseanne,
Oh Roseanne, my Roseanne.
Combined threads. Barry's post from 1998 has a tune and some info about origins, and it doesn't seem to have been harvested for the DT. -JC


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Subject: RE: ADD LYRICS: Sweet Roseanna
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 12:51 PM

This song is certainly part of the "folk canon" by now, but it appears the only known source of the song is the 1960 Lomax recording (popularized, of course, by Pete Seeger). I couldn't find reference to the song in the Roud Folksong Index or the Traditional Ballad Index.
-Joe-
The field recording is on the first volume of the Lomax Southern Journey series. Here are Matthew Barton's CD notes for the song:
    Sweet Roseanne
    Performed by the Bright Light Quartet, vocals and guitar
    Recorded April 6, 1960, in Weems, Virginia

    Lomax wrote, "We were in Shedrick Cain's front parlor talking over songs when somebody began to hum this tune. It is not often that a song hunter hears a new piece which has the recognizable quality of a new national song. It has happened only a few times in my twenty-eight years of recording, when I heard "Down in the Valley" in 1933, "Irene, Goodnight" in 1934 and "Rock Island Line" in 1938. Here was one of those that all America will be singing someday, I thought."
    Lomax worked closely with the singers to develop a strong arrangement, and helped them copyright the song in the hopes that it would sweep the country. It's a fine song and Lomax's hopes for it were well founded, as a number of folk songs like "Tom Dooley" and "Michael Row the Boat Ashore" had struck pop gold around that time. But this was not to be for "Sweet Roseanne," although the song was featured in one of his 1960's songbooks. This is an easygoing, wistful piece that mixes the responsorial style of the chantey with the smoother harmonies of commercial quartets.
But now that I say it was popularized by Seeger, I can't find a Seeger recording. Anybody know what Seeger CD it's on?

I'd sure like to hear the song as Lomax first heard it. The Lomax recording is certainly not what I'd call a "field recording." It shows strong evidence of having been arranged and produced - by Lomax, I suppose to make it commercially acceptable. I like it, but it would be nice to hear the raw material.
-Joe-


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Subject: Lyr Add: BYE BYE MY ROSEANNE (chantey)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 04:36 PM

Both broken English and Dutch lyrics to "Bye, bye, my Roseanne," here:
http://www.trossenlos.com/Shanties/Bye,%20bye,%20my%20Roseanna.htm
Bye, Bye, my Roseanna

Following the title is "(Bron: Jan Verbiest)"
A note in Dutch mentions verses by Johnny Collins and Jimmy Mageean and the cd "Coming of Age."

A further note calls it a 'parting' shanty, and says it was collected from Blacks in the vicinity of Beaufort, North Carolina.
No mention of Lomax, but this may be where he ties in.

Lyr. Add: BYE, BYE, MY ROSEANNE
(Bron: Jan Verbiest)

1.
Oh, Rosiann, my Rosiann
byebey, my Rosianna
Oh, Rosiann, sweet Rosiann
I will be home tomorrow.

Chorus:
ByeBye, ByeBye, ByeBye, ByeBye,
ByeBye my Rosianna
ByeBye, ByeBye, ByeBye, ByeBye,
And we all be home tomorrow.

2.
I ship-ped and sail-ed around the bank.
koor*; Byebye, my Rosianna
Oh load it down with Fisherman
Koor; I will be home tomorrow.
*koor = chorus response

Chorus

3.
Oh a dollar a day is a fisherman's pay
koor; ByeBye, my Rosianna
It's easy come, easy go away
koor; I will be home tomorrow

Chorus

4.
We'll bound away across the bay
koor; ByeBye, my Rosianna
We bound away at break of day
koor; I will be home tomorrow

Chorus

5.
So Rosiann, my Rosiann
koor; ByeBye, my Rosianna
Oh Rosiann, sweet Rosiann
koor: I will be home tomorrow.

Chorus

I have not changed any of the spelling or capitalization. Note that the last line of each verse begins 'I will,' not 'I won't'.

I seem to recall "We're bound away across the bay" belongs to a song that das discussed before on Mudcat (Goodbye, my lover, goodbye?). Anyone remember it and the thread number?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Sweet Roseanna/Sweet Roseanne
From: SINSULL
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 03:32 PM

Elizabeth LaPrelle does a slightly diferent version of this on her new CD, The Lizard In Spring.

Sweet Roseanne Sweet Roseanne
Bye Bye Sweet Roseanna.
I thought I heard my baby say
I won't be home tomorrow.

Sweet Roseanne my darling child
Bye Bye Sweet Roseanna.
Sweet Roseanne my darling child
I won't be home tomorrow.

CHORUS

The steamboat comin' 'round the bend.
Bye Bye Sweet Roseanna
She's loaded down with harvest men.
I won't be home tomorrow

Don't you want to go home on your next payday?
Bye bye Sweet Roseanna
Don't you want to go home on your next payday?
I won't be home tomorrow.

CHORUS

I'm going away but not to stay
Bye Bye Sweet Roseanna
I'm going away but not to stay
I won't be home tomorrow

Sweet Roseanne Sweet Roseanne
Bye Bye Sweet Roseanna
Sweet Roseanne Sweet Roseanne
Bye Bye Sweet Roseanna


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Sweet Roseanna/Sweet Roseanne
From: GUEST,Wm, Riley
Date: 04 Mar 14 - 04:05 PM

Heard this song at a Clearwater festival....a good group
singalong....
Taught this to a 4th grade and they loved it.....
all waved their hands on the "bye, bye, bye bye" lines....
lots of verses added thru the "process"


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