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Subject: Lyr Req: All in the Downs From: ooh-aah Date: 28 Jun 03 - 07:21 PM This is related to the Patrick O'Brian/Desolation Island thread. In one of the books 'The Surgeons Mate', the main characters sing three songs together, 'Chevy Chase' 'The Lady and Death' and 'All in the Downs'. The only refernce to the last song in the DT is a rather crappy Yankee attempt to pinch "Spanish Ladies', which of course contains the line "For all in the Downs that night were to meet". I'm pretty sure O'Brian referrs to a quite different song, as several times in the series his characters sing 'Spanish Ladies' under that name. Does anyone know 'All in the Downs'? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: All in the Downs From: nutty Date: 28 Jun 03 - 07:54 PM This version of Black Eyed Susan starts with the words "All in the Downs" so could be what you are looking for. Black-eyed Susan and the full poem can be found here John Gay |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: All in the Downs From: Charley Noble Date: 28 Jun 03 - 08:07 PM Thanks, Nutty. Charley Noble |
Subject: Lyr Add: BLACK-EYED SUSAN (John Gay) From: Jim Dixon Date: 30 Jun 03 - 08:50 PM Lyrics copied from http://eir.library.utoronto.ca/rpo/display/poem871.html
SWEET WILLIAM'S FAREWELL TO BLACK-EY'D SUSAN: A BALLAD
All in the Downs the fleet was moor'd,
William, who high upon the yard,
So the sweet lark, high pois'd in air,
"O Susan, Susan, lovely dear,
"Believe not what the landmen say,
"If to far India's coast we sail,
"Though battle call me from thy arms
The boatswain gave the dreadful word, |
Subject: Lyr. Add: Answer to Black-eyed Susan From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 06 Jul 08 - 10:38 PM Lyr. Add: ANSWER TO BLACK-EYED SUSAN Seeing sweet Susan's loyalty, Tears down his cheeks did drop amain, Into her arms he straight did fly, Saying, why does my love complain? I am thy William join'd to thee by oath? Nothing but death shall part us both. My dear, behold on my right breast, You know there grows a certain mole, Let not thy heart be sore oppress'd, Here is the broken piece of gold, Which we did break upon a certain day, When you departed and I went away. Sorrow and hardship I went through, While I was on the raging main, Now to my dear beloved Sue, I am returned safe again; No more I'll cross the raging ocean wide, But live in pleasure with my loving bride. Susan in a swoon did faint, At William's feet I do declare, He rais'd her up into his arms, Soon he reviv'd his charming fair; William and Susan sweetly pass'd along, To Plymouth Church, where multitudes did throng. Twenty stout sailors so brave and bold, And twenty maids in rich attire, A glorious sight for to behold, Music played at their desire; To charm the bride and bridegroom there, Now they are join'd, a sweet happy pair. Bodleian Ballads, Harding B28(74), between 1820-1824, printed by W. Armstrong, Liverpool. Anon. A poor 'answer,' not up to the standards of John Gay's original, but added for completeness. Probably as opposite to a sailor's wedding as it is possible to get. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: All in the Downs From: Charley Noble Date: 07 Jul 08 - 05:52 PM Q- Ah, gee! Well, it's good to know the couple got back together again, mole and all! I suppose there is always a temptation when a song achieves popularity for songwriters to do a sequel. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: All in the Downs From: Jim Dixon Date: 09 Jul 08 - 08:14 PM A tune for ALL IN THE DOWNS can be seen in A Select Collection of English Songs: With Their Original Airs... by Joseph Ritson and Thomas Park, 1813, page 142. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: All in the Downs From: Anglo Date: 10 Jul 08 - 03:46 AM |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: All in the Downs From: Anglo Date: 10 Jul 08 - 03:47 AM Oops, sorry about that blank post - I thought I was trying to look up Jim's reference. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: All in the Downs From: Jim Carroll Date: 11 Jul 08 - 03:49 AM Black Eyed Susan was one of Norfolk singer Walter Pardon's songs, learned from members of his family. Mike Yates wrote an extensive article on it which may (if my memory serves me) be on the Musical Traditions web-site (or was it Dance and Song). Jim Carroll |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: All in the Downs From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 11 Jul 08 - 04:01 AM Mike Yates, 'The Ballad of "Black-Eyed Susan" (Laws O28)'. English Dance and Song vol 42 number 1 (1980): 5-6. |
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