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Lyr Req: Jack Monaghan

GUEST,edu@diseart.ie 30 Jun 03 - 10:25 AM
Jim Dixon 02 Jul 03 - 01:05 AM
MartinRyan 02 Jul 03 - 04:52 PM
MartinRyan 12 Jul 03 - 10:25 AM
GUEST,999 01 Jan 10 - 02:09 AM
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Jim Dixon 03 Jan 10 - 01:34 PM
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Subject: Lyr Req: Jack Monaghan
From: GUEST,edu@diseart.ie
Date: 30 Jun 03 - 10:25 AM

Hi all,

I would be very grateful to whomever can forward the words of this song to me. It's a very old and sad lovesong.

Míle Buíochas,
Treasa


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jack Monaghan
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 01:05 AM

Usual searching techniques came up with nothing. Anybody know any alternative ways to spell "Monaghan"?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jack Monaghan
From: MartinRyan
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 04:52 PM

The only song I can find with that title is a modern song by Sean McCarthy (writer of many fine songs in traditional style). I haven't seen the words.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jack Monaghan
From: MartinRyan
Date: 12 Jul 03 - 10:25 AM

Coincidentally, I heard the Sean McCarthy song for the first time, during the week, at the Willy Clancy Summer School. It's set to the air of Skibbereen . I'll pick up a set of words when I have a chance.

Still not sure if its the one Treasa is looking for. Judging by her address, she might be able to find it close by!

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jack Monaghan
From: GUEST,999
Date: 01 Jan 10 - 02:09 AM

To the OP: Do you have any lyrics at all?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jack Monaghan
From: GUEST,999
Date: 01 Jan 10 - 02:12 AM

Surname: Monaghan

"Recorded in several spellings including Monaghan, Monahan, Minihan, sometimes as Minogue and Monk, but more correctly O'Monahan, this is an Irish surname of great antiquity. It derives from the pre 10th century Gaelic word 'manachain' meaning a monk, and hence the use of the English spelling and surname of Monk from time to time. However it would seem that the first chief from whom all later nameholders descended, was perhaps both monk and a mighty warrior of the 9th century. A case of mistaken identity or something more sinister? The history book are silent, but as we know from the famous tales of Robin Hood, the Friar was not above a little swordsmanship when the necessity arose. The famous annals of Ireland known as 'The Four Masters', apparently record the fact that the O' Monahan clan were the local Lords of Tuathas in County Roscommon upto the year 1287, when they were driven off their lands by the O'Hanlys. Certainly the surname is very popular in Galway, Fermanagh and Mayo, to the west, and it is certainly a truism of Irish history that under both national and local pressure as in this case, native tribes tendered to move west when in trouble. The surname is most famous for the number of members who became successful practioners at law, with James Monaghan of Galway (1804 0 1878) being Attorney General of Ireland, and later Lord Chief Justice."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jack Monaghan
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 01:34 PM

My research still finds nothing. Jack Monaghan is just too common a name. Google for "Jack Monaghan" and you get lots of references to various people; none of them (I think) are songs. But who has the patience to wade through 4800 hits to find out for sure?

Googling for "Jack Monaghan" together with "Sean McCarthy" also finds nothing?except that 2 guys with those names are on some list of Facebook friends, and 2 others are on some kind of athletic database.

Surely Treasa could have given us more information if she had thought of doing so. But she asked a question, then went away and never looked back.

I HATE WHEN THAT HAPPENS! It makes you wonder how badly they wanted the lyrics in the first place.

Maybe she assumed she would get an email. She never stuck around long enough to learn that we don't operate that way.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jack Monaghan
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 01:44 PM

By the way, I sent her an email anyway. Not likely she'd still have the same email address after 6+ years, but we'll see.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jack Monaghan
From: GUEST,999
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 10:58 PM

Well , Jim, sometimes I get lucky--but this ain't one of those times. The key will be getting more info. Let's hope that happens.


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