JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario

Subject: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Jul 03 - 11:20 AM

We're taking our show on the road semi-permanently. Jack the Sailor has a short term (nine week) consulting contract in Dearborn, Michigan. We'll be staying in the Dearborn area until early August, and then we'll be staying in Ypsilanti until sometime in mid-September. We're leaving for Michigan this coming friday (July 11), and expect to arrive on the 13th or 14th.

In early August we'll be going to Wisconsin to pick up the travel trailer we'll be living in for a while, and we're planning on making a side trip to Chicago on the way back. We've already got a gathering in the planning stages in the Chicago area with members of the Acoustic Guitar forum. Mudcatters will be most welcome at that gathering.

While in Michigan, we'll be making a few trips up into southern Ontario. We'll definitely be spending some time in Toronto, as well as Windsor. We want to make a trip up to Orillia as well. And JtS has relatives in Welland, Bramalea, and I think somewhere near Guelph, who we'll probably be visiting at some point.

We'd love to get together with Mudcatters on this trip. If you're interested, give a holler here in this thread or by PM. We'll maintain some degree of internet connection, although I'm not sure how frequently we'll be logging on, but if you post here or send a PM, one or the other of us will get back to you.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Noreen
Date: 07 Jul 03 - 11:33 AM

Sounds lovely, Carol. Have a great time!

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 07 Jul 03 - 07:23 PM

I'm in Windsor!

And I know where all the best pubs are!

:-)

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: hesperis
Date: 08 Jul 03 - 01:21 AM

I'm definitely up for this, and you know that already! *Huge grin*

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST,Big Mick
Date: 08 Jul 03 - 11:42 AM

Hi Carol and Jack. Drop me a line at my email address. I would love to get together while you are in the area. I live a couple of hours away but that doesn't stop us. Email me at [e-mail]

Mick

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: CarolC
Date: 08 Jul 03 - 07:04 PM

Thanks Noreen.

Clinton and hesperis, we're definitely looking forward to getting together with each of you. One of us will send PMs when we have a better idea of when we'll be in your areas.

Wonderful, Big Mick. I'll send an e-mail after we've arrived in Michigan.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: CarolC
Date: 09 Jul 03 - 05:54 PM

We're going off-line sometime later today and I won't be able to access the internet for a few days at least. So next time I check in will probably be some time next week.

See you all soon!

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: maire-aine
Date: 09 Jul 03 - 10:10 PM

I'm also in the area-- Royal Oak, just north of Detroit. PM me when you get here.

Maryanne

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Big Mick
Date: 09 Jul 03 - 10:26 PM

Maire-anne, I think we should all meet in Windsor. That would be fun. And it would be great to see you again.

Mick

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: maire-aine
Date: 10 Jul 03 - 09:26 AM

Any time between now and July 30th (I'm out of town 30-July thru 3-Aug) or after that would be great. Len Wallace is playing at the Kildare House on 19-July and Clinton and his friends are at Kildare House on 26-July, both are Fridays. Right, CH?

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: maire-aine
Date: 10 Jul 03 - 09:27 AM

Oops. Those are both Saturdays.
M.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jul 03 - 10:11 AM

There are 'Catters in Wisconsin, too.
Stephen Lee

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: PeteBoom
Date: 10 Jul 03 - 11:00 AM

I'm in Chatham, Ontario (around 45 minutes east of Detroit) this Saturday for the Tartan Sertoma Highland Games (better known as, well, Chatham Games... ;-).   Detroit Highland Games are the first Saturday in August - Battlefield Band was there a couple of years ago. I won't be there, I'll be in Maxville, Ontario (go east on highway 401 - if you hit Quebec you've gone too far) for the North American Pipe Band Championsips. Then off to Scotland the next week for the World Championships.

If you're here when I get back, session? Beer fest?

Cheers -

Pete

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: CarolC
Date: 10 Jul 03 - 12:29 PM

I got a brief extension on my internet time. I'll probably be connected until later today or some time tomorrow.

Mick, meeting up in Windsor sounds like a fantastic idea. maire-aine, we would love to meet you, too.

Stephen Lee, I'm not sure how long we'll be in Wisconsin, but I don't think it's going to be long enough to get together with anyone there. Are you close enough to Chicago to come to the gathering we'll be attending in that area?

Sounds great, Pete Boom.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 10 Jul 03 - 01:22 PM

Carol, my copies of Harold and the Purple Crayon and Harold's Fairy Tale arrived last night from Amazon. Very humbling to see that I could miss so much the first time around. Good thing Alex is so much more perceptive and artistic than I.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 10 Jul 03 - 05:08 PM

Hey Pete... There's a pub in Chatham called Auld Kellys... If yer around Friday night pre-games, I'm gigging there...

:-)

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Big Mick
Date: 10 Jul 03 - 05:55 PM

Go see Clinton, Pete. You won't be sorry. The guy is great when no one is listening, so I imagine he is friggin' outstanding when they are.

Mick

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 10 Jul 03 - 06:55 PM

Aww... geee... shucks BM...

:-)

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: PeteBoom
Date: 11 Jul 03 - 08:33 AM

Yeah - except that I'm heading out tomorrow morning - not tonite.

Also this weekend in Saline is the Saline Celtic Fest. I played there a few times with my old band. Last year there was a bit of a session in the dark at the end of the day. This year I've heard that they are making the "green room" for the main stage available for an after-hours session. If you can't catch Clinton (or my pipe band) in Chatham, this might be a good alternative.

Cheers -

Pete

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Marion
Date: 17 Jul 03 - 02:34 AM

Hi Carol. It doesn't sound like you have in mind to visit eastern Ontario, but if you do decide to go to Ottawa, you should stop and see me on the way. I'm in Perth, an hour southwest of Ottawa.

Marion

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: maire-aine
Date: 17 Jul 03 - 08:01 PM

There is a real good website for info on Detroit & southeastern Michigan Irish music and stuff. It is

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: maire-aine
Date: 17 Jul 03 - 08:03 PM

Sorry, hit the submit button too soon. The website is Detroit Irish
Hope this works, after all that.

Maryanne

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 18 Jul 03 - 06:26 PM

When is the gathering in Chicago?

Stephen Lee

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: CarolC
Date: 22 Jul 03 - 10:47 AM

Hi everybody...

We've been pretty busy getting settled in here and we had to go up to Ontario to deal with some passport issues for JtS, so we haven't had much time to plan anything else yet. We'll probably be doing that some time in the next few days, and then I'll start getting in touch with people. The good news is that when we were coming back, we didn't have any difficulty getting JtS back into the US. We didn't really anticipate a problem, but it was nice to get that first one behind us. Going into Canada, I forgot to leave my pepper spray in the hotel room, so it was confiscated at the border. That's the second time for me.

Stephen Lee, the gathering is scheduled for the weekend of August 9. Here's a couple of threads in the acoustic guitar forum that have details. It would be great if you could be there:

Announcements Forum

TTT Forum

Marion, thanks for the heads up. We might be in that part of Ontario at some point between now and when we head south. I'll send a PM if it looks like we'll be in your area.

Thanks for the info, Pete Boom and maire-aine.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 22 Jul 03 - 01:13 PM

Yes... leave yer pepper spray in that country to the south of Canada please... unless yer bringing it to put on my scrambled eggs!

LOL

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: CarolC
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 09:01 AM

Wow, Clinton. If I put some of my pepper spray on your scrambled eggs, can I watch you eat them?

Ok. We're free this weekend if anyone wants to meet up in Windsor on Friday or Saturday. If not, how about if everyone who wants to meet in Windsor posts here about when they'll be free to get together?

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Willie-O
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 09:36 AM

Marion's invite goes for me too, we live in the same neighbourhood. Not that I really expect to see you.

After your attempt at pepperspray smuggling, feel like trying it with an autoharp? Gutbucketeer, who's somewhere in Michigan I think, has one that I am negotiating to purchase, PM him if you can snag it and take it to Toronto (like, Cafe Rick's) when you go there.   

Best
Bill

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 10:00 AM

Thanks, Carol. Unfortunately I'll only be able to be in Chicago the weekend before that (I'm one of the performers for Buskerfest'03). I'm already killing the last of my vacation days from my straight job to play that. Have fun, though.

Stephen Lee

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 10:48 AM

We might just catch the Chicago thing. Too early to tell.

~S~

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: maire-aine
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 12:44 PM

I am planning to go over to Kildare House in Windsor on Sat (7/26).
Maryanne

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: John Hardly
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 12:48 PM

hey, I'm going to be at the Chicago thing. (looking forward to meeting the funny and talented couple)

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 12:57 PM

Cool MA... me and the band are playing there that night!

:-)

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: CarolC
Date: 24 Jul 03 - 08:50 AM

We've had to make a change in plans. The company that was making our travel trailer (our new house) said that the company that makes the furniture for inside the trailers burnt down and they couldn't guarantee a delivery date. So we went to a place here in Michigan and bought one that was in the lot. So now we'll be spending the weekend putting the trailer in the campground and moving our stuff over to it.

Sorry we'll be missing you this Saturday, Maryanne. Will that be the only time between now and mid-September that you'll be at Kildare House? Clinton, are there any weekends between now and then when you won't be somewhere in the Windsor area?

Oops, heric. I forgot to respond to your post. That's so great that Alex is getting to enjoy the wonder of those books. Some time you'll have to scan some of her artwork and put a picture up in WebShots or something.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: CarolC
Date: 24 Jul 03 - 08:52 AM

Oops. Forgot too...

That would be great, Wysiwyg, if you could be there.

Too cool, John Hardly. Will Millring be there as well?

;-)

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: John Hardly
Date: 24 Jul 03 - 10:16 AM

Millring assures me that where I go...

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 24 Jul 03 - 12:51 PM

"Clinton, are there any weekends between now and then when you won't be somewhere in the Windsor area?"

My weekends from now till about Mid-October are booked up pretty solid, and most are in Windsor...

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: CarolC
Date: 24 Jul 03 - 01:41 PM

Looking forward to seeing both of you, John. We don't need special glasses to see Millring, or a secret decoder ring or anything like that do we?

That's great, Clinton. I figure that makes scheduling to come see you at one of your gigs a little easier. Are there any weekends when we should not schedule to come see you in Windsor?

In the 'oops I forgot' dept:

So sorry to hear that, Stephen Lee. Have a great time at the Buskerfest '03

Willie-O, I PMed GutBucketeer and he said he's in the Silver Spring, Maryland area (which is where I thought I remembered he was), and not in Michigan. Sorry we can't help you with that but if we find ourselves in your area before we head south, it would be great to see you again.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: CarolC
Date: 25 Jul 03 - 02:09 PM

We're going to be leaving this hotel and getting set up in the RV park tomorrow. After tomorrow morning, I don't know when I'll have internet access. I guess we'll need to get a satellite connection or something. If anyone wants me to have their phone number for contact, or if anyone wants mine, send a PM and we'll try to get it taken care of by tomorrow morning. Or you can send me an e-mail at [e-mail].

We'll try to get reconnected on the internet as soon as possible.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 25 Jul 03 - 02:20 PM

Best place to find my dates is on -My Web Site-

;-)

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Marion
Date: 26 Jul 03 - 01:16 AM

Pepper spray? I don't think you'll find many bears in southern Ontario.

Marion

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Willie-O
Date: 26 Jul 03 - 08:27 AM

I've seen a few around, you have to come to Eastern Ontario, it seems. (But I don't think Carol was bear huntin')

I don't know why I thought Gutbucket was in Mich. I know less than nothing...

good luck with the new house on wheels, Carol & Rob!

Bill

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: hesperis
Date: 01 Aug 03 - 09:34 AM

Ok, what is going on, where? I've lost the thread of this thread.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: hesperis
Date: 03 Aug 03 - 04:36 PM

*bump*

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: maire-aine
Date: 05 Aug 03 - 06:23 PM

Hi, everybody. I'm having a BBQ/picnic at my house in Royal Oak, MI on Sunday, August 24th (about 3PM to ??). PM me for directions, or reply to this thread and we'll work something out.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Big Mick
Date: 05 Aug 03 - 10:29 PM

Hello, kiddo! Email me the directions and I'll see if the Big Mick Lane clan can make it.

Mick

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST,Jack the Trailer
Date: 07 Aug 03 - 05:20 PM

Hi Folks,

Carol Misses you all, things have been hectic, her son came to visit last night. But she should be back in touch with you all soon. We're looking forward to seeing/meeting you all when time permits.

Cheers

jts

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 11 Aug 03 - 04:58 PM

We're going to be in Toronto Friday and saturday night. Is anything happening that we should take in?

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: hesperis
Date: 13 Aug 03 - 02:39 PM

I'll look stuff up. I could always check with Chopin Restaurant and see if we can play there on Saturday.

There is something happening this weekend but of course I can't remember it right now.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: CarolC
Date: 16 Aug 03 - 06:24 PM

Howdy Buckaroos!!!

This is my first time on the Mudcat in what seems like weeks. We're (JtS, me, my son, and Erenle) are at Erenle's apartment. This is a GROUP POST!!!

This will be short because JtS wants to go sit on a patio and drink beer, and Little Hawk will be meeting us there in just a few minutes. We are wondering why Erenle's name got changed from hesperis to something that could have been as cool as Earlene, but nooooo... just Erenle. What's up with that?

Anyway, this is just a short Toronto visit for the benefit of my son who will be going back to school in Utah on Monday. We expect to be making more trips up here to see more people before we head back to the deep south. I hope to be gettin online more now that I've found a good library nearby.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Miken
Date: 16 Aug 03 - 11:16 PM

Well Hi, Carol,
Been following your progress. Squeeze a tune for me. Finally have learned a full set on my new box. Tuamgrainey castle (hornpipe), Napoleon crossing the Rhine, and Julia Delaney (reels). Am also working on some airs. Love them free reeds! My list of tunes to learn is far longer than my remaining years :-))
Mike

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: hesperis
Date: 17 Aug 03 - 12:45 AM

lol, my jazzy friend was going to sign up for mudcat, but my cookie was still on her computer, so she changed MY info instead of registering new info. I hope she didn't post yet... oh well. I'm back, I'm me, and you'll be seeing a new Erenle soon! (I think it's a cool name.)

Had an awesome time both last night and today. I invited Erenle to hang with us, we went to a cafe, then back to CarolC's hotel for some jammin'. Her son is a cool guy, JtS is a really funny guy, and it was great meeting them.

We danced to "Tierra mi cuerpo, agua mi sangre, aire mi aliento, y fuego mi espiritu." for a bit, it was great to teach again, and great to dance again!

The group post got cut a little too short by having to go to meet Hawk, but that was cool too. I tried to get in touch with Rick and Duckboots, but that didn't happen. Hope Rick's ok...

So much fun. I'm beaming now, I'm so happy to have seen CarolC again.

When are you guys coming back??????????????

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Aug 03 - 12:06 PM

Had a nice gettogether with Jack the Sailor, CarolC, her son Ian, and Hesperis at the Black Bull on Queen Street in Toronto. The Black Bull is a very old hotel/pub sort of brick building with a large outdoor patio facing on a very lively part of Queen Street...lots of neat stores around there. It was a Saturday night, though, so most of them were closed. For some reason most Canadian stores close at 6 pm on Saturday (only). It's a tradition, I guess. So, everybody was in fine fettle, the weather was hot but beautiful, and the conversation went all over the map from prosaic subjects like personal history and the usual political imbroglios (been dying to use that word..) to really fascinating and riveting subjects like the impact of William Shatner on the World of Fine Art! Like, wow, eh?

"It was decent, eh?" as Blind Drunk in Blind River might say...

Looking forward to Jack & Carol's next visit!

- LH

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST,CarolC at Ypsilanti District Lawberry
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 05:48 PM

Yeah, sure... they hit submit on the group post before putting anything in it and then they ditched me. I had to run seven blocks before I caught up with them and then I only found them hiding behind some bushes because Ian sneezed and I can recognize his sneezes anywhere.

So it was fantastic getting to see hesperis and LH again, and it was great to meet erenle and her daughter as well. The weekend contained just the right amount of music and BS (of course), and Ian has fallen in love with Toronto. He says TO has replaced New York City as his favorite city.

The weekend before this last, we went to the Acoustic Guitar gathering in Chicago where we met John Hardly for the first time. He showed up fasionably late, so we didn't get to see very much of him, but we enjoyed his guitar playing and his singing.

We're going to try to make it to your BBQ, maire-aine, so we'll keep you posted as things shape up for us.

We'll be making more trips up into Canada while we're in Michigan. We still need to get to Windsor on a Friday or Saturday evening to catch one of Clinton's gigs and meet him, and we hope to visit Orillia at least once and maybe Toronto one or two more times before we head back.

Very, very cool, Mike. What kind of box do you have? That sounds like a great repertoire you're working on. Maybe I'll get to hear you play some day.

This on-the-road trailer lifestyle is pretty cool. We were right in the middle of the power outage but we weren't effected all that terribly much. We have a backup battery for lights and stuff, our stoves are gas powered, and our fridge automatically switches to gas if the electric goes out. It was hot here, but it wasn't anywhere near as bad in the campground as it was in most places because there's a lot of shade. Anyway, my time's running out, but I'll be back online probably tomorrow and post some more stuff.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 05:55 PM

This weekend, I'm @ the Kildare house on Thursday (best place to come see me really) and I have a "musical wallpaper" matinee at Patrick O'Ryans on Sat afternoon... Which is not me at my best...

:-)

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: indieman
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 07:07 PM

Greetings from Utah! This is the son of CarolC fresh off the plane. Today alone, I've been through Detroit, Phoenix, Las Vegas and Salt Lake City...but Toronto is still my favorite.

This weekend's trip broke my Toronto cherry, and became the grand finale of what I dubbed several months ago as "The Summer of Lost Dreams". Maybe a little on the hokey side, but it lived up to it's name and then some! Anyway as my mom said, I'm in love with the place.

After roaming the city for good (not to mention powered) restaurants, listening to (and loving) the accordion/flute/guitar jam session that took place in my very hotel room, recieving a sacred circle dance lesson from Hesperis (a great teacher even if I wasn't the best of students), and then roaming the city again throughout Saturday, I was nearly disgruntled when it came time to drive back to the States.

But someday, HOHO, someday I will return to that wonderful place...and make a movie there. In the meantime, I'll make the best of Utah, get my film degree, and think back on great times. Much thanks to CarolC, JacktheSailor, Hesperis (formerly Erenle(formerly Hesperis)), LittleHawk, and the real Erenle (if she returns with that name) for such a wonderful experience!


-your friendly neighborhood indieman

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST,Jack the Trailer Sailor
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 08:19 AM

Clinton, Thursday would be tough for me. Saturday is a lot easier. If we make it, we'll be the ones paying attention to your performance :)

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 09:26 AM

Ian - glad to hear you are fully gruntled - would hate to see you disgruntled.

As usual - having fun reading about the xploits of CarolC, har clan and friends - she should do proffessional travelougues!

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 09:28 AM

If yer there, yer there! :-)

Don't be shy eh!

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: maire-aine
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 09:30 AM

Glad to see you're back in touch, CarolC. For anybody who missed it, folks in the Detroit area are invited to a BBQ on Sunday, August 24th. PM me for details and directions.

Maryanne

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Willie-O
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 09:42 AM

I'm missing all the fun these days...don't seem to get west of Kaladar. However it looks like thats about to change. I'm starting a new job working for a company that installs playground equipment all over south-eastern & central Ontario. So I'll be spending some time in Toronto and god knows where else.

Glad you folks had a good tour through. Maybe next time...

Bill

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 10:02 AM

Hey, Carol, Jack, Ian, Hesperis, whoever, I am trying to reach Hesperis about moving some stuff to Toronto, but I lost the piece of paper with her phone number! If you have it, PM me. Thanks!

- LH

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST,Trailer Sailor
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 12:27 PM

Sorry Hawk, don't have the number. Carol will have to help you there.
Stay in Touch Willie-o, We'd be happy to take a trip to Tronto to see ya or you host you in our home on wheels. Nice to hear from you all. I agree MMario. Carol is a fine writer. Glad you made it back Ian, I hope your guitar is none the worse for the ride. Marie Anne your BBQ fits our plans of a relaixng weekend to a "T" Carol can't use her cookie at the library can you please email the info to [e-mail]

Subject: CarolC at the KOA Kampground
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 04:19 PM

Fortunately I can set a cookie here at the kampground, but not for much longer if I cancel our AOL soon-to-be-not-so-free trial offer membership. I got your PM just now, LH, and sent you her number in a PM just in case you still need it.

Thanks MMario. I'll probably start a thread about trailer life just for the fun of it. It's a very interesting lifestyle.

What JtS said, Clinton and Willie O.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 04:23 PM

well-now; what would be the oppisette of "trailer trash" (because I cannot picture CarolC as "trash" under ANY conditions. Homeless and on the street she would still exude her natural condition - that of a true lady!)

'trailer gentry' perhaps?

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: hesperis
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 04:45 PM

Hawk got in touch with me, so it worked out alright. I have kitchen stuff!!! w00t!

indieman - you do not do yourself justice. I've had MUCH worse students! *g*

Toronto is a pretty easy city to fall in love with. Make sure you visit in February or so, though.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: indieman
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 03:00 AM

Thanks Hesperis! I guess I'm a bit of a perfectionist.

What happens in Toronto in February?

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST, Jack the Home Hauler
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 08:48 AM

Ian,
Toronto is fun any time of year. Feb would put you on a 6 month visit schedule, you will be able to skate at City Hall and take in a Leafs game!

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Amos
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 09:58 AM

Toronto in February?

They celebrate recovering from December. Those still able to do so go up and down the streets sorting out all the asses that have frozen off and making sure they get returned to the right folks. T

hey also walk around with little baggies to capture all those frozen conversations where it was too cold to hear anything. They save 'em up and thaw them at the end of the day, or spring if they don't have any house heating, so they can catch up on what their friends have been saying to them.

A

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST,CarolC at the Lawberry
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 05:00 PM

First time I was ever in Toronto was in February. I thought it was a grand place to be during that time of year. Of course, I was staying in Orillia at the time, where it snows a lot, so the TO climate seemed quite mild by comparison ;-)

Plus, when I was in Toronto in February, it was to see Rick F. and Heather, and as I said to them at the time, the warmth generated by their friendship more than makes up for the cold weather.

Thanks again, MMario. Maybe 'trailer adventurers' would be a good term. It sure feels like an adventure, and as a Georgia friend of ours said to me yesterday, "I swear to god, everywhere the two of you go, something really weird happens".

Congratulations on the kitchen stuff, hesperis!

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Willie-O
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 07:53 PM

Amos, you don't really have the hang of Toronto. It's like the warmest place in Ontario where there's people living. (Never mind the riposte, Clinton.)

Carol is quite right about Orillia, which is on the Snow Belt which stretches east-west through "northern southern Ontario". (if you get my drift). As you go east and uphill along the snow belt, it turns into the Cold Snow Belt...peaking where I used to live, just east of Algonquin Park. Hit 60 below Fahrenheit one winter in the early 80's.

However, tragically, despite the cavalier attitude us Cold Ontarians have towards Toronto winters, rather a lot of homeless folks have been freezing to death there the past few winters.

By the way, February is the coldest month. December is late fall...

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 08:07 PM

"(Never mind the riposte, Clinton.)"

Then get yer facts straight!

:-)

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: hesperis
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 11:48 PM

indieman - perfectionism is not allowed in Sacred Circle Dance. :P

As for February... it's the greyest, coldsnap-est, most ornery time of the year in TO. But yeah, the indoor scene is definitely where it's at... and maybe I'll dig my skates out this year.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST,Jack da Sailor
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 07:40 AM

H'Ontario winters can be cold but dey h'are nuttin compared to a Newfoundland winter. Rain, fog, sleet, den minus 20, d'a h'ocean freezes den two feet of snow den it rains again, make h'everyting h'all swampy, den dat freezes den h'it starts h'all h'over agin.

h'an dats just da first day.......

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: gnu
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 01:59 PM

Now, wha would ye expect, bein perched ona rock in da nart Lantic Ocean ? Jaysus bye !!!

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST,Jack
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 02:02 PM

Yer singin to da choir!!!

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: indieman
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 06:37 PM

You good folks have forgotten that I'm living in Salt Lake City. Not as cold as the nart Lantic or even Orillia I'll reckon, but I think I could survive Toronto.

Hesperis, I say to thee with fennel tongue, dancing with a master demands perfection. ; )

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST,jackthe
Date: 22 Aug 03 - 07:23 AM

Yes, I believe you would thrive there.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST,CarolC at the Lawberry
Date: 22 Aug 03 - 04:09 PM

Fennel tongue?

So it looks like we'll be in Windsor this Saturday (tomorrow) to see Clinton, and we're planning on making it to maire-aine's on Sunday. Hope to see you there on Sunday, Mick.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 22 Aug 03 - 04:12 PM

I'm @ Patrick O'Ryans from 3-6... come for lunch!

I'll try to remember to bring the digital camera, so we can post a pic or 2

:-)

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: hesperis
Date: 22 Aug 03 - 06:36 PM

People used to eat a mix of fennel and aniseed after meals to sweeten the breath. Sweeter breath gives sweeter words. So people started saying "you speak with fennel" as a way of saying "you flatter me". It used to have a connotation of falseness though.

Just don't ask how that came up in conversation. *wink*

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 23 Aug 03 - 11:03 PM

Well guys, THAT was a bucket and a half of fun! Only my 2nd ever cyber-to-meat-space incursion...

I told ya I'd post a URL to Len Wallaces site and here it is...

http://worldaccordion.tripod.com/index.html

I'll get those pics off the camera and uploaded likley sometime tomorrow!

Well met you 2!

:-)

Oh ya... I forgot... Devilmaster wanted me to send along a "It was very good to meet ya's!"

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST,John Hardly
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 09:15 AM

You can see photos of Carol and Jack here. Just click on the "No, just show me the photos" option. (Jack and Carol are Arch and Ethyl)

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: indieman
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 02:38 PM

And indieman!! (ian)

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 11:05 AM

It was a great weekend. We took in Clinton Hammond's show on Saturday, then enjoyed his company over beers and good food at his "local". Clinton is a fine performer and a funny man. I highly recommend his show.

Sunday we attended maire-aine's bbq. Marie-aine has a fine ear for melody and sings with gusto. We truly enjoyed her songs. We met some good pickers, many of whom were named Bob, enjoyed wonderfull hospitality, companionship and of course music. We were treated to Banjo, Bagpipes, accordion and two Bodhran's all in one session, No one lived up to the reputations of the instruments. All the players were tasteful, musical and polite. I particularly enjoyed a gentleman with as irish accent who sang acapella irish ballads. He gives lessons in this form Thursday night. I'm going to try and attend a couple.

Clinton Here are the web addresses I promised you. We can use another voice singing the praises of Seagulls in these forums.

http://pub186.ezboard.com/bacousticguitartalktalktalk
http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubbcgi/Ultimate.cgi

Marie-aine, Bob the slothead martin playing salesman also expressed interest in these website. Tell him he can get all of his guitar-pickup related questions answered in full on these sites.

Cheers all
To use Clinton's phrase
WELL MET!!!

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Big Mick
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 12:12 PM

Well met, well met, my own true love.........

It is a great lyric. Tim O'Brien uses it in a wonderful song about a woman who falls in love with the devil...sorta

I am very disappointed that I couldn't make this one. Life got in the way Sunday morning, and caused me to have to cancel out at the last minute. MaryAnne, I hope the invitation will be there again. I was really looking forward to seeing you, Jack, and Carol again. And meeting other Michigan folkies, as well.

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: maire-aine
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 12:31 PM

Sorry you missed it, Mick. We all had a good time. The gentleman with the Irish accent is David Murphy. He and his wife Virginia Blankenhorn post here from time to time. They will be teaching traditional Irish singing on Thursday nights with Comhaltas. The first night is 4-Sep-03, which is usually an orientation, get-to-meet-folks. Check them out at Link to Detroit Comhaltas

I expect to be having another get-together in a couple of months. I'll let you know.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 10:48 AM

Raptor and I figure to drop in on Clinton one of these days, heckle him during his show, then stay over for a week or so at his place and drink all his beer and so on. We may even be able to get Shane down from Blind River, which would be cool, eh? I can't say when it's gonna happen cos we want it to be a surprise for Clinton.

- LH

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST,Claymore
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 11:42 AM

Carol, I heard a real interesting show on NPR called the Infinite Mind about CFIDS on Sunday night. If you contact theinfinitemind.com and then use their search engine for CFS I understand you can get a transcript. They were discussing a number of new areas of research which you may want to make use of. Good luck on your caravan across the North.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 02:46 PM

Bring it on LH! Bring it on!

LOL

Here's one pic of THOSE 2..

JtS & CC

And here's one of the 3 of us...

Hehehe

Took me all day to get my hair like that...

:-)

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST,CarolC at the Lawberry
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 03:39 PM

I second everything JtS said. It was a great weekend, and it was wonderful meeting Clinton and maire-aine. I was also sorry you weren't able to make it, Mick. We'll be in the area for a few more weeks yet though, so we still have some time to try again before we head back.

Thanks for posting those, John. Those are some great pictures.

LH, you and Raptor really should get down to see Clinton. If he keeps meeting Mudcatters in the flesh, he might get addicted to it, and I do like spreading my addictions around. If you do it when we are available, maybe we'll make another trip to Windsor and be there when you are. If you alert me to your plans by PM, I promise not to tell Clinton about it and spoil the surprise. I have to warn you though, Clinton eats hecklers for lunch ;-)

Thanks Claymore. I don't know if you got the e-mail I sent you about your dad, but here's a heads up about it in case you missed it.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Raptor
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 03:39 PM

What hair?

Raptor

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 06:22 PM

Raptor, LH,

SERIOUS INVITE

If you want to come here for a Friday and or Saturday night, hang out in the KOA, play some tunes... Let us know.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Raptor
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 10:50 AM

Jack

Wheres here?

Lets meet at the Sundance Saloon, Or Trapper Johns on George Street for a blue star!


Clinton Can't wait to hear ya! If your half as pasionate about your music as you are dissagreing with people here about anything than you'll be F'in great!



Raptor

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 10:54 AM

Ypsilanti MI, bout 40 miles from Windsor.

George Street will have to wait til next year.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 01:03 PM

Hi guys. Still enjoying the travelogue. When you called I was suffering the affects of a medication called celebrex.....makes ya dopey. Being sick sucks! Pictured Clinton Hammond as being 6 foot 5, 600 pounds, with a shaved head and red beard!

Cheers

Rick

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 01:10 PM

That's pretty close, except for the weight and the height and the shaved head.

Glad to hear from you Rick. I'm happy that you seem to be feeling better.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST,CarolC
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 05:13 PM

Hey Rick. I agree with you about being sick and about having sucky medication side effects. It was good to talk to you on the phone, however briefly though. We'll be in this area for a few weeks yet, so maybe next time we're up your way you'll be feeling better.

I forgot to thank you, Clinton, for posting the pictures from our evening in Windsor. It's great to have them on this thread.

Wow, indieman. I'm glad you pointed that out. I somehow managed to miss seeing this picture of you when I was looking through the pictures the first time. I'm glad we have a picture of you at that gathering.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: hesperis
Date: 28 Aug 03 - 05:33 AM

Rick - good to see you posting!

indieman - *cough*torontopicswhen?*cough* :)

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 12:33 AM

http://community.webshots.com/album/87821439KRHBoW

Here are a very few. Alas Hesperis, you've seen these. I'll develop and post the rest soon. Promise! :)

For everyone else, this is a small glimpse of the imfamous Toronto Mariott Jam Session.

-indieman

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: CarolC
Date: 06 Sep 03 - 02:53 PM

Very cool pics, indieman. Thanks.

So we went to Minneapolis and St. Paul last weekend and we've been sick with colds all this week, so I haven't been on-line at all until today.

We went to see guitarist, Muriel Anderson in Minn/St. P. She was giving a workshop that JtS participated in, and then she gave a house concert in the evening. It was fun meeting her and hearing her playfully virtuostic style of playing and performing.

I have to go do laundry now. Back soon, hopefully.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: hesperis
Date: 07 Sep 03 - 02:16 AM

Cool.

indieman - *cough*developmorepicswhen?*cough*

*Grin*

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 12 Sep 03 - 08:56 AM

We're off to Muskegon tomorrow for the Michigan Irish festival.

We'll be there most of Saturday, possibly part of Sunday.

Hope to meet some of you there, keep an eye out for us.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: indieman
Date: 12 Sep 03 - 01:38 PM

Ahhh yes, the bonnie Toronty pics. They're quite good as I discovered when I unrolled the film in a dark room and examined it using magneto-telekinesis. I've recently heard tell of a certain chemical process that will render the film viewable to non-mutant eyes. I think I'll investigate this soon... ;)

-indieman (aka Sly Swine)

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 12 Sep 03 - 08:52 PM

Looks like we may not make Muskegon. Maybe another time Mick?

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: PeteBoom
Date: 15 Sep 03 - 08:25 AM

What a hoot! I highly recommend these two folks... ;-)

Pete

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: CarolC
Date: 15 Sep 03 - 03:56 PM

Hey Pete!

We had a fantastic time, but I'll have to elaborate later. Someone else needs this line. Back soon.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Oct 03 - 03:47 PM

This is what I wanted to say before but didn't have time:

So we went to the Michigan Irish Music Festival a few weekends ago, and spent some time with Big Mick, Seamus Kennedy, and Pete Boom. It was great to see Mick again, and it was wonderful to meet Seamus and Pete (and Mick's lovely daughter, and Seamus and Pete's lovely wives). We went to a nice little pub on Saturday Evening and saw Mick's band, the Conklin Ceilidh (?) band. That was a rousing good time.

On Sunday we caught one of Seamus' performances. Another rousing good time, but of a somewhat different sort. Seamus sings Scottish songs as well as Irish ones. I think Seamus must be part Scot because he sings the Scottish songs the best ;-)

I asked Seamus if he would please give my sister (the outlaw pyrate) a thump on the head for me next time he sees her because she doesn't approve of accordions. He said he would. He's a good man.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: hesperis
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 10:13 PM

Awesome. When are you passing by Toronto next?

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: CarolC
Date: 09 Oct 03 - 03:10 PM

Hi hesperis. I'm not sure when we'll be able to do a TO visit, but if it looks like we'll be there again before we head south, we'll definitely let you know.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: hesperis
Date: 09 Oct 03 - 09:19 PM

I just found a reasonably good seafood restaurant right near here. Actually, Striker found it. You guys would LOVE it... so visit! *grin*

Oh, and there's now a Tim Horton's one city block away. :)

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST,CarolC at the Lawberry
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 03:28 PM

Hi hesperis. Sorry we weren't able to squeeze in another visit to Toronto before heading south. I'll have more details later, but right now my internet time is severely limited. Hopefully we'll have internet access at home soon.

Congrats on the new Tim's in your neighborhood. That's great!

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST,CC a t L
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 03:29 PM

hahahaha...

cross posted

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: GUEST,Oops CC a t L
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 03:30 PM

no we didn't. I'm getting terrible at this. I'll give up and go home now.

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: indieman
Date: 03 Dec 03 - 09:20 PM

Yes yes, well anyway I have many lovely pics for you all to see. Right now just Toronto pics, but soon there should be Chicago pics up as well. Check back in a week or so.

-Indie the Man


http://community.webshots.com/user/eduardotheswine

Subject: RE: JtS &CarolC: Michigan, Chicago, Ontario
From: hesperis
Date: 03 Dec 03 - 10:20 PM

Yay, more pics!

I'll be in Boofalo next week, anything going on?