2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 15 Oct 03 - 12:08 PM

Last minute request for supplies and tools for instrument building:

If anyone has any of the following we would sure appreciate it in the instrument building workshop:

Tools:

Hand drills and bits (or electric).
Small files
Utility knives
Coping saws

Supplies:

Small pieces of scrap hardwood
OLD WORNOUT GUITAR, BANJO, OR DULCIMER STRINGS
Nylon Monofilament fishing line greater than 40lb test
Scrap pieces of Tyvek (used to mosture proof houses, or to mail packages)
Cookie tins
Cigar boxes
Old copper tubing or PVC conduit.
Painters buckets.

Any or all would be appreciated.

JAB

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Fortunato
Date: 24 Sep 03 - 09:31 AM

Sorry to hear you won't make in Naemason. I hope the disapproving bastards get a boil.

We'll hope for another time again.

cheers, Chance

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: kendall
Date: 24 Sep 03 - 04:30 AM

Thats enough to piss off the Pope.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Sep 03 - 11:21 PM

saw this in the Guam thread....wow...you were so sure it would work.
Well, we will sing a few and drink a few in your honor and post pics...what a bummer!

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Naemanson
Date: 23 Sep 03 - 11:02 PM

Well I've just had a bucket of cold water thrown in my face. My application for my class has been disapproved. It appears there are too many Navy billets and they don't want any more. So my trip is off.

To say the least, I'm disappointed.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bert
Date: 23 Sep 03 - 10:43 PM

Hey Annie, I did a workshop for songwriters about three years ago. Also it wasn't well attended but I was up against some formidable competition (I don't know anyone who can compete with Sandy and Carolyn).

Earlier in this thread I volunteered to try again this year but haven't heard anything from the powers that be.

There's likely to be a songwriter's workshop coming up soon here in Phoenixville PA, If you are interested in getting on the mailing list send me a PM.

Bert.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Ferrara
Date: 23 Sep 03 - 09:52 PM

Hi, I've finally gotten enough of the program roughed out to be able to put it online. It's still a draft, Preliminary, and Incomplete, but you can see it here .

The thread is
FSGW Getaway Program - 2003

Rita Ferrara

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 23 Sep 03 - 03:10 PM

I just sent in my registration for the whole weekend! Now I'll get to find out what really happens on Sunday Night. Yeah! :-).


Would anyone like to lead a workshop on how to figure out the chords (and the key) to a song. I continue to struggle with this and maybe Its something that I just will never be able to accomplish. I've read and re-read various descriptions of how to do it, but they all still seem like greek to me. Any help would be appreciated.

JAB

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Annie
Date: 21 Sep 03 - 09:32 PM

Rita - If you're still taking ideas - Two years ago Rick (and Bob I think) did a workshop for songwriting. It wasn't well attended, but it was good. Anybody else interested?

A

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Sep 03 - 02:41 PM

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Naemanson
Date: 16 Sep 03 - 07:27 PM

I was always planning to take a week of annual leave in conjunction with this trip. That is standard practice when you live so far from freinds and family. If the Government is paying for the trip anyway then you take some personal time to make the most of it. So now I'll take 8 days instead of 5 days and arrive in the Washington area on Thursday. I'll stay with my nephew and go up to the Getaway on Friday. Somehow I'll have to find my daughter and get her there too but those are details that can be worked out later.

I hope the fact that I'll be out of the office until November won't cut into the boss's decision to let me go to Australia later that month.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Sep 03 - 06:15 PM

durn, Brett.. officialdom has its ways, don't it? I hope you can work it out! (Tell 'em you sent your $$$ *grin*)

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 15 Sep 03 - 08:13 PM

Yes, I never claimed that we would be traveling the farthest to Getaway. I knew you would beat us by a long shot. Noreen and I were just wondering about the distances for UK'ers and Alaskans. I am humbled by your distance.

Mike

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Naemanson
Date: 15 Sep 03 - 07:42 PM

Distance between Agana, Guam, United States and Washington, District of Columbia, United States, as the crow flies: 7936 miles (12772 km)

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Naemanson
Date: 15 Sep 03 - 06:48 PM

Uh-Oh! I just got word that my class is rescheduled till later in the month! This may not be as easy as I thought to get to the Getaway.

Oh, and sorry to throw cold water on your comparisons but I'm afraid I've got both Alaska Mike and Norren beat as to distance traveled. If things work out I'll be coming from Guam on the other side of the world. I haven't figured out the distance yet but it's probably close to 7,000 or 8,000 miles.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 14 Sep 03 - 01:52 AM

Thanks Charlie.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 14 Sep 03 - 12:47 AM

If you want to come as a daytripper and don't want to eat with us or stay overnight, you can just show up and pay at the door.
(that may answer Peg and Bruce O). But the camp needs to know in advance how much food to prepare and we need to let them know how many beds/cabins we're going to be using, so if you want to eat with us, you should register in advance. It's not that you get a discount by pre-registering--it's that you get food and a bed to sleep in.

--Charlie Baum

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: kendall
Date: 13 Sep 03 - 12:39 PM

I sure hope Peg can make it, what an addition to the talent there!

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Carly
Date: 13 Sep 03 - 11:39 AM

Oops. I'm not sure what I did, but sorry for the repeat!

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Carly
Date: 13 Sep 03 - 11:37 AM

It was a lovely workshop, and it was great to meet (and hear) Tinker. I am looking forward to seeing old friends, and meeting new ones, at the Getaway. Sounds trite, but it's true. Anything I can do to help, Rita.... call me.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 13 Sep 03 - 11:23 AM

I can't find what I want to know at FSGW.org, so I'll assume that as in the past that as a daytripper only, I don't have to register, just show up and pay cash, knowing that I probably won't be able to get meals that way. I just got the sad news (sad to me that is) that Lani Herrmann and her husband are going to Korea, so she won't be at the Getaway this year.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Sep 03 - 11:05 AM

Peg you need to PM Charlie Baum on this. I know no one would be turned away, but details are hazy in my head. (The camp needs a basic head count to plan meals, but one extra person is not likely to matter....also, we plan ID buttons and information packs...etc..but these can be handled.)

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Carly
Date: 13 Sep 03 - 11:05 AM

It was a lovely workshop, and it was great to meet (and hear) Tinker. I am looking forward to seeing old friends, and meeting new ones, at the Getaway. Sounds trite, but it's true. Anything I can do to help, Rita.... call me.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Peg
Date: 13 Sep 03 - 10:20 AM

I might be going but I may not know until kinda last minute; can I pay/register at the door, as it were? How much money do I save by doing it early?

peg

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 12 Sep 03 - 10:48 PM

I routinely travel long distances to festivals, just not quite this long. lol

Mike

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Noreen
Date: 12 Sep 03 - 05:53 AM

Wonderful, Rita! It's getting close now...

BTW, Alaska Mike and I were wondering in Mudchat last night, which of us had further to travel to get to the Getaway- turns out it's a remarkably similar distance (thanks for the research, Mike!):

London to NYC: 3460 miles
Anchorage to NYC (via Seattle): 3815 miles

Further than I normally travel to a festival...

:0)

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Ferrara
Date: 12 Sep 03 - 12:51 AM

A quick note. I've been working on the program, mostly via phone calls, PM's and e-mails, but it's assembling itself piecemeal as I figure out one bit at a time. (This is how it always works.)

And you guys are gaining on me!!! I'm catching up on this thread tonight, but am only up to August 20 as of this writing....

The program is a moving target, as Bill said. If I put up what I have so far, I won't have many of your wonderful suggestions incorporated into it and it will give a false impression that I'm ignoring them.

I am getting some wonderful stuff set up but it's just a beginning. There are two days of workshops, with three or four tracks running simultaneously from about 9:30 am to 6 pm with a break for lunch. So it's a lot of planning!

It is NEVER, repeat NEVER, finished by mid-September. What we have now is a very rough draft. The reason is that we don't pay performers; we take our talent from whoever shows up. I sometimes learn very late in the process that someone wonderful has gotten the weekend freed up and will be coming at the last minute. So -- I work them into the program if they're willing.

Okay, so this has gone beyond a quick note. (My posts always do, don't they?)

Here's some more thoughts on the program. It may be helpful to people who are volunteering to lead things.

The Getaway is large participatory. A "Workshop" may be a sing-around (every one in turn, all the way 'round the circle), a less structured song swap, a tutorial or "How-To," or a Workshop/Concert, where the leader(s) share some of their repertoire and also invite some participation from the floor.

We also have a few mini-concerts. They aren't all "performers" or "stars," either.

With so many people meeting each other for the first time this year, I may have a larger proportion of mini-concerts.

I try to balance the workshops in each time slot: different styles, instruments, traditions, etc. This helps minimize schedule conflicts for some people... Still there are bound to be conflicts. If there aren't, I haven't set up enough interesting stuff. I probably experience the most painful conflicts of anybody who attends; after all, I wouldn't set up a workshop if I didn't think it was worth going to! In the final week or so you'll all have a chance to identify the most painful conflicts and I'll iron out what I can.

There is so much talent to choose from that I often have more than one leader for workshops. This could get confusing as I post successive drafts of the program. In the early days, a workshop may be listed with only have one leader; then I may add a co-leader as the whole thing evolves.

It sometimes happens that you may not know your co-leader, especially if you've never been to a Getaway. If it's appropriate, I try to set it up so people can exchange e-mails ahead of time, etc. but many co-leaders meet for the first time at the Getaway and it always works out just fine as far as I know. (Tinker's workshop last year with Carly Gewirz on "women's work and wisdom" comes to mind...)

Well enough generalities for now. Back to my thread reading.

Rita Ferrara

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 11 Sep 03 - 10:13 PM

Got the airline tickets, reserved the motorhome, sent in my application for membership and the Getaway fee. Making plans to see NYC, Philly, D.C. and Boston as well as meeting all of the folkies at Camp Ramblewood. Woooooppie

Mike

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Susan A-R
Date: 11 Sep 03 - 09:23 PM

My form went out yesterday, and Barry and I are making travel plans. It's really happening this year.

Any more word on program? I'll make sure to bring the fiddle and tune list, (the songs are just in there somewhere) and store up on sleep so I don't waste any valuable time snoozing.

Susan A-R

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: kendall
Date: 11 Sep 03 - 03:10 AM

Good for you Roger and Brett. The Getaway is a high spot in my year.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Annie
Date: 10 Sep 03 - 10:27 PM

Count one more fiddler interested in a dance or jamming or workshop. Will look you up Chance.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Fortunato
Date: 09 Sep 03 - 08:00 AM

Glad to hear it. We'll look forward to meeting you.
chance

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Naemanson
Date: 09 Sep 03 - 02:52 AM

I mailed my registration form today! Of course it will be at least two weeks before it gets anywhere...

Hooray! I'm a-goin' to the FSGW Getaway!

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 08 Sep 03 - 05:23 PM

Rita,

I just confirmed with Marge that she and I will be coming again this year, but we will be daytrippers. I would be happy to help out in any way that I can. My PM on the Mudcat is acting up, so I may just give you a holler by phone.

Roger in Baltimore

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 06 Sep 03 - 10:03 AM

It's been my experience, Pauline, that there is always a need for good fiddlers whenever folkies get together.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST,FORTUNATO NO COOKIE
Date: 06 Sep 03 - 09:56 AM

Fiddlers who play Old Time Country/Bluegrass might look us up. Not a workshop but jamming.

Chance Shiver

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST,Pauline L
Date: 05 Sep 03 - 01:28 PM

Rita,
I'm interested in opportunities for fiddlers, too. Those of us who play and don't sing would find playing for a dance a great opportunity!

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Naemanson
Date: 02 Sep 03 - 03:03 AM

Saaaalllllyyyy, freeee and eeeeaaaasssyyyy,
That must be her name....

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bill D
Date: 01 Sep 03 - 11:35 PM

registration form is ready...here is the page about it all (Getaway, camp, rules..etc.) http://fsgw.org/getaway.php

and here is a direct link to the Adobe PDF form http://fsgw.org/getaway.pdf

('almost' everyone has an Adobe PDF reader on their computer by now, if you don't, ask..it's free & easy..(like Sally)*music joke*

(Rita will start a new thread as the workshop details are worked out)

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 09:57 AM

he's probably gonna be a bit busy, Amos...but if he wants to register.....

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Amos
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 08:51 AM

Howard Dean.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Susan A-R
Date: 28 Aug 03 - 11:04 PM

I'd be glad to play fiddle for any dancing that happens. If it's in the schedule Rita, I'd be glad to put together a tentative list of tunes, or to confer with a caller. The women work and wisdom one is also interesting, and I'd be glad to help with it.

Susan A-R

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Aug 03 - 08:50 PM

"every known parody verse to "Old Time Religion"
well...that shoots Saturday morning!

"We will worship with the Quakers,
- - - - - - - -,
- - - - - - - -,
And it's good enough for me!

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Fortunato
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 09:21 PM

Dani, I'm looking forward to meeting you at the Getaway. I'm sorry we couldn't get to your restaurant. It would have been more fun I think, than much of Black Mountain and Asheville.

Let's chat! I want to plan a southern tour soon.

cheers, chance

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Dani
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 09:15 PM

Perhaps we could combine it with the workshop where we sing every known parody verse to "Old Time Religion" ;)

Too many good ideas, too many great musicians. I'm mostly a fly on the wall there, and I'll go wherever I'm sent to soak up whatever there is to soak up.

Dani

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 07:10 PM

Dani...we actually have done this workshop twice in the past...it was moderately sucessful, but competition with other workshops is fierce!

It actually worked better a couple times done as a short interlude in and evening sing. (we had about 9 songs in a row done to the Marines hymn!)

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: CET
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 07:05 PM

I like Dani's idea of lyrics to other tunes. This would be a great opportunity for parodies.

Perhaps I could bring up a suggestion I made earlier: songs other than in English. Considering the combined talents of Mudcatters and the FSGW we could certainly muster some songs in French, German, Spanish and Yiddish, and perhaps Gaelic and Welsh. Perhaps we could open it to translations of non-English songs. (I don't want to insult people who speak other languages. Those are just the ones that I am reasonably sure are spoken by some of the folks who go to the Getaway.)

Edmund

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Dani
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 06:32 PM

Hate to drag this thread back around to music ; ) but have y'all seen the thread on lyrics to other tunes? The possibilities are endless, and I think it would make a hilarious (and educational)workshop.

Dani (who's already packed her earplugs)

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: kendall
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 09:48 PM

No comment

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Janie
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 09:31 PM

You're right Kendall. No matter... I will always be a legend in my own mind. Actually, I come from a family of legendary snorers. Annie must have got the recessive non-snoring gene. Either that, or she was adopted. But she loves me anyway and is masochistic enough to keep taking trips with me.

Dani says she didn't notice that I snored. All the guys next door (or Sinsull Who Doesn't Snore) must have drowned me out. (Don't hit me, Mary, please?)

Janie