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Lyr Add: I Wandered by a Brookside

Ian HP 22 Aug 98 - 02:47 PM
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Subject: Lyr Add: I WANDERED BY A BROOKSIDE
From: Ian HP
Date: 22 Aug 98 - 02:47 PM

I WANDERED BY A BROOKSIDE
Traditional

1. I wandered by a brookside, I wandered by a mill,
I could not hear the water, the murmuring it was still,
Not the sound of any grasshopper nor the song of any bird
For the beating of my own heart was the only sound I heard
The beating of my own heart was the only sound I heard

2. I sat beneath the elm tree and watched his long, long shade
And as it grew the longer I did not feel afraid
I listened for a footfall, I listened for a word
But the beating of my own heart was the only sound I heard
The beating of my own heart was the only sound I heard.

3. With silent tears fast flowing then someone stood behind,
A hand upon my shoulder, I knew the touch was kind,
She drew me near and nearer, we neither spoke one word
For the beating of our own two hearts was the only sound I heard
The beating of our own two hearts was the only sound I heard


Recorded by Archie Fisher, Whippersnapper, and others.


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Subject: Tune Add: I WANDERED BY A BROOKSIDE
From: Ian HP
Date: 30 Aug 98 - 08:01 PM

Dick, I posted the words to this a week or so ago, so here's the tune.

T:I Wandered By A Brookside
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:120
K:G
D2|D2D2E3D|D2G4GA|B2G2G3E1|D6D2|D2D2E3D|D2G4G2|G2E2B2cB|A6D2|
D2D2E3D|D2G4GA|B2G2G2E2|D6GA|
B2B2A2A2|G4D2DD|E2G2A2F2|G6GA|
B2B2A2A2|G4D2DD|E2G2A2F2|G6||


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Subject: RE: LYR. ADD: I WANDERED BY A BROOKSIDE
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 06:22 AM

Dunno if anybody has written this but the tune to this as used by Eva Cassidy, Chris Leslie and a few others, was composed by Barbara Berry, Afred Williams collected from Leah Sermon, Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, and it's registered with PRS by Barbara...


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Subject: RE: LYR. ADD: I WANDERED BY A BROOKSIDE
From: breezy
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 06:49 AM

The ref researched this song and traced many threads, he performs a version and Babara Berry is inc among the credits as welll as the other names mentioed and he can deliver more than 3 verses and with very tasteful guitar, may get him to sing it tonight Mon 8th Nov at my gig at the Staines folk club at the 3 tuns


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Subject: RE: LYR. ADD: I WANDERED BY A BROOKSIDE
From: Singing Referee
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 07:40 AM

Thanks Breezy.

I only knew the Eva Cassidy version in which she only sings two verses. But seeing that it was attributed by her as traditional and not knowing any other tradional song with only two verses (22 perhaps!) I guessed her's was an abridged version and set out to find some more. I soon found the Barbara Berry version, but also found a poem by, Richard Monckton Milnes (Lord Houghton) c 1850, which was recognisably of the same origins, although as none of the dates are precise it's not clear whether the song collected originated from this poem, or perhaps vice versa. This poem contained an additional verse which I have adapted slightly (to fit the metre of the song).

At the moment, I can't find the full version of the poem anymore, but I'll keep looking and will publish it if I do.

Anyway, here's the third verse of my version of the song.

She came not, no she came not, the night came on alone.
The evening stars grew brighter, each on its shining throne.
The evening breeze blew stronger, the leaves above they stirred,
But the beating of my own heart was the only sound I heard,
The beating of my own heart was the only sound I heard.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE BROOKSIDE (Lord Houghton)
From: Singing Referee
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 07:55 AM

Found it!

The Brookside

by Lord Houghton

I wandered by the brookside,
I wandered by the mill;
I could not hear the brook flow,-
The noisy wheel was still;
There was no burr of grasshopper,
No chirp of any bird,
But the beating of my own heart
Was all the sound I heard.
                                        
I sat beneath the elm tree;
I watched the long, long shade,
And, as it grew still longer,
I did not feel afraid;
For I listened for a footfall,
I listened for a word,-
But the beating of my own heart
Was all the sound I heard.
                                        
He came not,-no, he came not,-
The night came on alone,-
The little stars sat one by one,
Each on his golden throne;
The evening wind passed by my cheek,
The leaves above were stirred,
But the beating of my own heart
Was all the sound I heard.
                                        
Fast, silent tears were flowing,
When something stood behind;
A hand was on my shoulder,-
I knew its touch was kind;
It drew me nearer,-nearer,-
We did not speak one word,
For the beating of our own hearts
Was all the sound we heard.
                  

Note "He came not......", another reference to this poem suggests it was a sonnet written to Charles Lamb.

Now I read it again, the words here do scan to the tune, so I'm not sure why I changed them!


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Subject: RE: LYR. ADD: I WANDERED BY A BROOKSIDE
From: Leadfingers
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 12:51 PM

I had a nice chat to Barbara Berry at Towersey , she and Len are in good health still , and Barbara ALWAYS enjoys receiving the Royalty cheques !!


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Subject: RE: LYR. ADD: I WANDERED BY A BROOKSIDE
From: breezy
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 07:40 PM

Well done Ref, looks like you had a 'breeze' moment in verse 3, better than having the wind dont you think

I can see why you came to the variant

So how come Barbara Berry wrote it? is there something |i dont understand ? Royalty cheques?

She didnt look that old when I saw her in Maidenhead.

and ref ,you play very tasteful guitar accompaniment to it too.


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Subject: RE: LYR. ADD: I WANDERED BY A BROOKSIDE
From: Leadfingers
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 07:59 PM

My Word Breezy - You are getting worse !! Len and Barbara are Bob Berry's parents - I think you are confusing Barbara with Gill !!!!


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Subject: RE: Lyr add: I Wandered by a Brookside
From: breezy
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 04:32 AM

all berries look and sound like to me.
Yes I believe you are right L-f
So how come they recieve royalties on a trad song which is public domain?


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Subject: RE: Lyr add: I Wandered by a Brookside
From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 05:36 AM

Breezy - Barbara wrote a tune for this (not the one posted above) as part of getting tunes for all the songs in Williams' Folk Songs of the Upper Thames (which had none) - she gathered up traditional tunes from other versions where she could and wrote some when she couldn't find any. In fact there are traditional tunes for the song. The Coppers have a version and there's a version in Helen Creighton's Maritime Folk Songs. (I'll see if I can post these tunes when I've a bit more time). According to Roud there's also a recording by Walter Pardon, presumably to a traditional tune.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Lyr add: I Wandered by a Brookside
From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 06:06 AM

I might have been wrong about Folk Songs of the Upper Thames - the song doesn't appear to be there, only listed in William's manuscripts!

Mick


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Subject: RE: Lyr add: I Wandered by a Brookside
From: masato sakurai
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 08:27 AM

(1) From the Levy Collection:
Title: I Wandered By the Brook-side. A Ballad.
Composer, Lyricist, Arranger: Written by R. Monckton Milnes. The Music by James Hine.
James Hine Publication: Boston: Oliver Ditson, 115 Washington St., n.d.

(2) From American Memory:
I wandered by the brook-side / by Sebastian B. Schlesinger.
Boston: Prufer, Carl, 1883.


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Subject: RE: Lyr add: I Wandered by a Brookside
From: breezy
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 09:10 AM

Cheers Mick, hows the dog?


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Subject: RE: Lyr add: I Wandered by a Brookside
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 05:20 PM

Can anyone tell me whether the tune Archie Fisher uses on 'Sunsets I've Galloped Into' is trad. or the one written by Barbara Berry? He credits it to trad, but mistakes have been known to be made ...


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Subject: RE: Lyr add: I Wandered by a Brookside
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 05:30 PM

The words posted by the Singing Ref appear in Bob Copper's "Early to Rise" but the tune notated by Caro Kettlewell (nee Pardoe) is basically that of Home Sweet Home, (which is how I sang it at Uxbridge Folk Club in January 1994, with guitar accompaniment by MCP).

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Lyr add: I Wandered by a Brookside
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 06:20 PM

Oops.no, I meant "There's no place like home"!

Kitty


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Subject: Lyr Add: I WANDERED BY A BROOKSIDE (Eva Cassidy)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 06:22 PM

The poem by Milnes is the oldest version known, so it should be credited to him. It is interesting to note that both old sheet music editions have the four verses unchanged.

Are the tunes used by Fisher and Cassidy similar to the old tunes by Hines and Schlesinger?

The Eva Cassidy rewrite with just verses one and four of the poem is posted below for completeness, but I think the third verse as included by Singing Referee adds a bit of drama.

I WANDERED BY A BROOKSIDE
(Eva Cassidy version)

I wandered by a brookside,
I wandered by a mill;
I could not hear the water,
The murmuring it was still.
Not a sound of any grasshopper
Nor the chirp of any bird,
But the beating of my own heart
Was the only sound I heard.

The beating of my own heart
Was the only sound I heard.

Then silent tears fast flowing
When someone stood beside,
A hand upon my shoulder
I knew the touch was kind.
He drew me near and nearer,
We neither spoke one word.
But the beating of our own two hearts
Was the only sound I heard.

The beating of our own two hearts
Was the only sound I heard.

Stuart Lowe has tabbed the Cassidy song: Brookside tabs


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Subject: RE: Lyr add: I Wandered by a Brookside
From: breezy
Date: 10 Nov 04 - 12:43 PM

Dear Kitty,

Would the ref be able to accompany you singing it?

Les S is coming to snorbens for Robb J, dont suppose you could make it too?


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Subject: RE: Lyr add: I Wandered by a Brookside
From: BB
Date: 10 Nov 04 - 04:00 PM

Q - the tune used by Eva Cassidy is the one written by Barbara Berry, who's very happy to have some extra income in her old age, thanks to that recording!

Barbara


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Subject: Tune Add: I WANDERED BY THE BROOKSIDE
From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 10 Nov 04 - 04:04 PM

Here are the tunes from Levy and American Memory referred to above, along with the one from Helen Creighton's Maritime Folk Songs. I've transposed them all to the same key for comparison, and also included (No 4 below) the tune Ian posted above, also transposed to F.

Mick



X: 1
T:I Wandered By The Brookside
M:2/4
L:1/8
S:Levy
C:Words:R.Monckton Milnes Music: James Hines
K:F % transposed from A
"^Andante Affetuoso"C|F2- F3/4E/4G3/4F/4|AF zC|G2-G3/4^F/4A3/4G/4|F2 z
w:I wan_der'd by the brook side I wan_der'd by the mill
(D3/4C/4)|CF (F3/4E/4)(G3/4F/4)|AF zF|{F}E>E (G/F)D/|C2 z
w:I_ could not hear_ the_ brook flow the noi-sy wheel_ was still
C|G>^F G>A|F>C Cz/A/|B>A G<F|(FE) z
w:There was no burr of grass-hop-per no chirp of a-ny bird
D3/4C/4|CF (F3/4E/4)(G3/4F/4)|A(c- c/B/)(D/G/)|F3/4C/4 A2 E|F2 z||
w:But the beat-ing of_ my_ own heart__ was_ all the sound I heard.

X: 2
T:I Wandered By The Brook-Side
M:6/8
L:1/8
S:American Memory
C:Words:Richard Monckton Milnes Music:Sebastian B.Schlesinger
N:The last note of v3 was missing from the sheet music copy - added by MCP
K:F % transposed from G
"Allegretto v1&2"C|F2 F G2 G|c3 A2 C|F2 F (GF)G|A3- A2
w:I wan-dered by the brook side I wan-dered by_ the mill_
A|A2 A (AG)A|c3 B2 G|F2 A (cG)A|F3- F2
w:I could not hear_ the brook flow the noi-sy wheel_ was still_
F|F2 F F2 F|D2 D D2 D|(B,_E)G F2 E|D2 z z2
w:There was no burr of bu-sy bee no chirp_ of a-ny bird
D/D/|G2 G (GA)B|(c2 B) A2 F|B2 F F2 G|A3-A2||
w:But the beat-ing of_ my own_ heart was all the sound I heard._
"^v3"F|E2 E {G}F2 E|D3 D2 D|F2 F E2 D|(C3 E2)
w:He came not no he came not the night came on a-lone_
E|G2 G G2 G|G2 G F2 F|E2 E E2 D|C3 z2
w:The lit-tle stars set one by one each on his gold-en throne
E|A2 A G2 G|F2 F F2 F|B2 B B2 B|HB3- B2
w:The even-ing air passed by my cheek the leaves ab-ove were stirred_
B/B/|A2 A G2 F|E3 G2 (C/D/)|E2 F D2 E|F3-F2||
w:But the beat-ing of my own heart was_ all the sound I heard_

X: 3
T:As I Wandered By The Brookside
M:4/4
L:1/8
S:Helen Creighton: Maritime Folk Songs from Mr.Beron Young, West Petpeswick,NS,Aug 1951
K:F
"^Moderate"FG|A2 A2 ((3G/A/G/F) (FB)|d4 (Hfd) ((3d/e/d/c)|A2 (FA) A2 G2| F6
w:As I wan-dered by___ the_ brook side_ I___ wan-dered_ by the mill
c2|f2 e2 f2 g2|f2 ((3e/f/e/d) ((3d/e/d/c-) cc|d2 c2 (fA) (Ac)|c6
w:I could now hear the brook flow___ for____ the noi-sy mill_ was_ still
(cf)|f2 e2 f2 ag|f(e/f/ ed) d2 cc|B2 A2 (Bc) (cf)|f6
w:No_ sound of grass-hop-per could I___ hear nor the sound of a_ny_ bird
FA|c3 d B2 (FB)|d4 Hf2 ((3d/e/d/c)|A3 F A2 ((3G/A/G/F)|F6||
w:For the beat-ing of my_ own heart was___ all the sound I___ heard.

X:4
T:I Wandered By A Brookside
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:120
K:F % transposed from G
C2|C2 C2 D3 C|C2 F4 (FG)|A2 F2 F3 D1|C6
w:I wand-ered by a brook-side, I_ wand-ered by a mill,
C2|C2 C2 D3 C|C2 F4 F2|F2 D2 A2 BA|G6
w:I could not hear the wat-er, the mur-mur-ing it was still
C2|C2 C2 D3 C|C2 F4 FG|A2 F2 F2 D2|C6
w:Not the sound of any grass-hop-per nor the song of any bird
FG|A2 A2 G2 G2|F4 C2 CC|D2 F2 G2 E2|F6
w:For the beat-ing of my own heart was the on-ly sound I heard
FG|A2 A2 G2 G2|F4 C2 CC|D2 F2 G2 E2||
w:The beat-ing of my own heart was the on-ly sound I heard


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: I Wandered by a Brookside
From: Singing Referee
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 06:03 AM

MIght sing it tonight at the Robb Johnson gig at the Duke of Marlborough, Holywell Hill, St Albans, if Breezy will let me!


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