Lyr Add: Down Yonder (L Wolfe Gilbert)

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Down Yonder (L Wolfe Gilbert)
From: JennieG
Date: 04 Sep 13 - 08:38 AM

Wow, this thread was started before I even knew Mudcat existed! Somewhere in a large pile I have the sheet music, tomorrow morning I will dig it out and post the details.

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Down Yonder (L Wolfe Gilbert)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Sep 13 - 01:18 AM

Gene posted the chorus and Pete Peterson posted the lyrics. Anybody want to put them in proper order, with songwriter and source information documented?
I'm in Scotland and unable to do that just now.

-Joe-

Subject: Tune Add: DOWN YONDER (L Wolfe Gilbert)
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 20 Feb 02 - 02:30 AM

The song that this one plagarizes (at least the same guy had a hand in both of them) is Waiting for the Robert E. Lee.

The following is taken from Perfessor Bill Edwards' site at http://www.perfessorbill.com/index1.htm

"L. Wolfe Gilbert - 1921: Many performers I know of have long been politely amazed at the durability of this simple piece, but then again, it may be that simplicity that has made it durable. Down Yonder is essentially a partial plagiarism of a piece Gilbert co-wrote with Lewis F. Muir nine years earlier, Waiting for the Robert E. Lee. There is even one line, lyrics and music, lifted directly from the predecessor. However, this song was not a big hit at its inception. Like 12th Street Rag it had to wait for the ragtime revival to really catch on. Jo Ann Castle, Del Wood and Lou Busch were among the artists who did rather well with the piece in the 1950s and 1960s. As with many revived ragtime era hits, the verse was excised. This allows for a level of reptition that helps the melody sink in, but a level of redundancy that can stymie some musicians or quickly fatigue listeners.
"

And to round it off, here's the MidiText:

MIDI file: downyndr.mid

Timebase: 120

Name: untitled
TimeSig: 4/4 24 8
Key: C
Tempo: 120 (500000 microsec/crotchet)
Start
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Subject: RE: ADD LYR: Down Yonder
From: khandu
Date: 19 Feb 02 - 01:45 AM

I have heard this all my life and have been playing it for years and, until tonight, I was unaware it had lyrics!

I am amazed!

khandu

Subject: RE: ADD LYR: Down Yonder
From: Joe Offer
Date: 25 Aug 98 - 04:50 AM

Hi, Pete. the HTML tag for the end of a line is < br > - that's [br], but enclosed in angle brackets, with no spaces within the brackets. I've tried various ways of displaying this code, but that didn't work because it looks different in different browsers.
So, I hope that's clear enough. The code is br, and all HTML codes are enclosed in the angle brackets that are on your comma and period keys. I usually type lyrics up in a word processor, and then "replace" carriage returns with a carriage return and the "br" symbol in angle brackets. If you still have trouble understanding, send me a personal message or an e-mail.
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Subject: RE: ADD LYR: Down Yonder
From: Pete Peterson
Date: 24 Aug 98 - 09:44 PM

a) would somebody teach me how to get the lyrics arranged in clear lines the way I try to write them out for people?

b) it somehow submitted before I mentioned that the song is by L. Wolfe Gilbert

Pete Peterson

Subject: Lyr Add: DOWN YONDER (L Wolfe Gilbert)^^
From: Pete Peterson
Date: 24 Aug 98 - 09:42 PM

Thanks to two friends from Hobo Pie, Bob Woodcock and Barb Johnson, I have a Xerox of the sheet music! In addition to the chorus printed above it has two verses (to a different tune-- sorry)

Railroad train, railroad train, hurry some more
Put a little steam on just like never before,
Hustle on, bustle on, I've got the blues
Yearning for my Swanee shore
Brother if you only knew
You'd want to hurry up to---
Down yonder. . .

Summer night, Fields of white, Bright cotton moon
My but I feel glad I'm gonna see you all soon
Lasses cakes, Mammy bakes, I taste them now
I can hear the (politically incorrect term) croon
I'll see my sweetie once more
There's lots of kissing in store

Subject: RE: ADD LYR: Down Yonder
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Aug 98 - 03:47 PM

Snookums, I woulda swore the three songs you requested were instrumentals, with no lyrics. You certainly hear "Down Yonder" and "Blue Skirt" most often without lyrics. I almost posted a message to tell you the lyrics were da-da-da-dum-dum-dum - but then Dick and Gene came through with actual words. If anybody here knows about lyrics, it's Dick and Gene.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: ADD LYR: Down Yonder
From: snookums
Date: 24 Aug 98 - 12:13 PM

Thanks- this song has been driving my mother and me nuts for 2 years!!! snookums

Subject: Lyr Add: DOWN YONDER (L Wolfe Gilbert)^^
From: Gene
Date: 22 Aug 98 - 10:47 PM

This is from memory....I have the sheet music and a recording - somewhere!

Down Yonder

Down yonder - someone beckons to me
Down yonder - someone reckons on me
I seem to see a race in memory
Between the Natchez and the Robert E. Lee
Swanee shore - I miss you more and more
Ev'ryday my mammy-land - you're simply grand.

Down yonder - where the folks get the news
Don't wonder - at the hulabaloo
There's Pappy and Mammy - Ephraim and Sammy
Waitin' down yonder for me.