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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: kendall Date: 14 Aug 03 - 03:51 PM Bee dubbya Ell, are you sure of that? My grandmother had a picture on her wall of this funny looking kid saying "What, me worry"? when I was a boy back in the 40's. How old is Howdy Doody? |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Teribus Date: 14 Aug 03 - 03:06 AM TIA, Over this side of the pond when the talking doll came out, the TV coverage only played coverage of an importer in the US, with the doll coming out with the "Bushisms". Thanks for putting the record staight. alanabit, Your request reminded me of the joke about a middle aged Italian, Luigi, who was complaining: Throughout my life, since leaving school, for forty years, I have dedicated myself to helping others, to the pursuit of fine art and fine music, both as an instrument maker and performer. Am I known as Luigi the Philanthropist? - No Am I known as Luigi the great artist? - No Am I known as Luigi the great musician? - No But I shag one bloody sheep. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Greg F. Date: 13 Aug 03 - 06:10 PM The Dumbya doll can't talk without the hand of the other doll in the set up its back working its mouth- you need to get the Karl Rove doll. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Amos Date: 13 Aug 03 - 05:52 PM You just pull this little cord in his shoulder, and these muffled lies come out of his belly.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Cluin Date: 13 Aug 03 - 05:12 PM Talking with his head up his ass? |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: alanabit Date: 13 Aug 03 - 04:51 PM Can I order one of the president snorting coke, or drunk driving or doing one of those things he's known best for? |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: TIA Date: 13 Aug 03 - 11:03 AM Teribus - I've got the GWB doll from last xmas, and it is actually quite fair and balanced. It is not (as you have characterized it) slanted. Of the 17 soundbites that it plays, only 3 are Bushisms. The other 14 are completely grammatical, and not "funny" in any fashion. I suspect that 3 howlers out of 17 statements probably constitutes a darn good replica of the real GWB. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Bill D Date: 13 Aug 03 - 11:00 AM That's Summerfallwinterspring, I do believe....(and I wasn't even a regular watcher...I just have a a damn memory like flypaper...you never know what's gonna stick to it) |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Amos Date: 13 Aug 03 - 10:41 AM Venerable? MISTER Doody??? Since when has ole Howdy been MISTER Doody, I wanna know? Along with MISS Summer-Spring-Winterfall and MISTER Thunderthud, I suppose? Ain't now MISTERing in the Peanut Gallery. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 13 Aug 03 - 02:03 AM Coincidentally, did you know that the similarity of appearance between Alfred E. Neuman and Howdy Doody is no accident? A.E.N.'s facial characteristics were, in fact, based on those of the venerable Mr. Doody. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: GUEST Date: 13 Aug 03 - 12:07 AM I bought one - and with a wiccan prayer - and the burning of praire sagebrush.
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Rustic Rebel Date: 12 Aug 03 - 11:58 PM It was bad enough insulting Alfred E. Neuman like that Bee-Dubya-ell, but Don F. doing it to Howdy Doody is just going a bit too far! Where are the loyalties? Peace, Rustic |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Amos Date: 12 Aug 03 - 07:43 PM On a more recent note, Al Gore recently remarked, among other things: The 2001 winner of the Nobel Prize for Economics, George Akerlof, went even further last week in Germany when he told Der Spiegel, "This is the worst government the US has ever had in its more than 200 years of history...This is not normal government policy." In describing the impact of the Bush policies on America's future, Akerloff added, "What we have here is a form of looting." See the rest of M. Gore's remarks on this page. Regards, A |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Amos Date: 12 Aug 03 - 07:28 PM And from this page, the following: "Dear Buzz, Attached is the formal complaint that I made with the Department of Defense concerning George W. Bush's desertion during the Vietnam war. Maybe you could post the complaint and encourage others to submit formal complaints as well. Tell people to call their congresspeople and request as a constituent service that they write a cover letter and deliver it. It was amazingly easy for me. A BuzzFlash Reader * * * RE: Desertion Department of Defense The Pentagon Washington, D.C. 20301-1900 To whom it may concern: Recently, I was made aware of allegations concerning several violations of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) by George W. Bush during the Vietnam War. The alleged acts include being Absent Without Leave (UCMJ Article 86) for a period of more than a year from his National Guard assignments in Texas and Alabama. According to the UCMJ, a person who is AWOL for more than 30 days with evidence of no intent to return to duty is guilty of Desertion. (UCMJ Article 85) To understand the gravity of this offense, one need only read the section 4.9.5 e. of Article 85, which states that the maximum punishment for desertion in a time of war (3), is, "Death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct". As far as I am aware, George W. Bush has never received any punishment for these alleged crimes, nor has he ever been charged. When I read about these allegations in national media outlets including, but not limited to; The Boston Globe(1), The Washington Post(2), The Birmingham News(3), and The Dallas Morning News(4), I decided to call the Department of Defense to find out what the Statute of Limitations was for these crimes. I was informed that because of the nature of the crimes; deserting one's country during a time of war, that there is NO statute of limitations, and these crimes, if proven, can still be prosecuted today. The purpose of this correspondence is to make a formal written complaint with circumstantial and documentary evidence of George W. Bush's violations of the UCMJ. Since he is the Commander in Chief of our armed forces, the details of his past service or lack thereof, are of particular interest to the American people. DETAILS: From May to November 1972, George W. Bush was living in Alabama working on the US senate campaign of Winton Blount and was required to attend drills with the Air National Guard unit in Montgomery, Alabama. There is no record that he attended any drills whatsoever. Additionally, General William Turnipseed (r) who was commander of the unit at that time has stated in interviews that he never saw Bush report for duty. On September 5, 1972, Bush had requested permission to perform duty for September, October, and November at the 187th Tactical Recon Group in Montgomery. Permission was granted, and Bush was ordered to report to General William Turnipseed. In interviews, Turnipseed, and his administrative officer at the time, Kenneth K. Lott, have stated that they had no memory of Bush ever reporting. Seven months later, at Ellington Air Force Base in Texas, Bush's two superior officers were unable to complete his annual evaluation covering the year from May 1, 1972 to April 30, 1973 because, "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period of this report." Both superior officers, who are now dead, and also Ellington's top personnel officer at the time, mistakenly concluded that Bush served his final year of service in Alabama. Bush returned to live in Texas after the senatorial election in November, 1972, so this is obviously not true. According to the records available from the National Guard, the period between May 1972 and May 1973 remains unaccounted for. George W. Bush himself has refused to answer questions about this period in his life, other than to state that he fulfilled all of his National Guard commitments. If this were true, why is there no record of him fulfilling these commitments at either of his posts in Texas or Alabama? Why is there not one commanding officer that can come forward and state unequivocally that Bush reported for duty? If the allegations are true that Bush deserted his country during a time of war, this is one of the gravest offenses one can commit against their country, short of treason. This is why there is no Statute of Limitations concerning these crimes. My father served proudly as a field surgeon in Vietnam, and it distresses me greatly that a person could use his family's influence and power to not only avoid the draft for service, but then to not fulfill the duties that he was assigned in substitute for serving in Vietnam. These crimes are not to be taken lightly, and I believe that all men and women who serve America proudly would be shocked that a soldier was allowed to abuse the system in the way that George W. Bush allegedly has. These charges warrant investigation, and until a satisfactory record of Bush's service is produced, I can only assume that Bush did indeed desert his country in a time of war. I implore you to investigate these charges. In this time of war and talk of preemptive strikes against other countries, it would serve the American people greatly to know that our Commander in Chief did not run away from duty during Vietnam. If this man is to send other's husbands, wives, and children to die in a foreign land, we must make sure that he fulfilled his obligations and commitments to America before he demands that others do the same. Sincerely, A BuzzFlash Reader" |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Amos Date: 12 Aug 03 - 07:17 PM "A government document describing Bush's service record, obtained by Martin Heldt under the Freedom of Information Act, the "MILITARY BIOGRAPHY OF GEORGE WALKER BUSH" from the Headquarters Air Reserve Personnel center in Denver, Colorado, indicates that Bush finished his active duty and his military servie by serving in Denver, Colorado, between 2 Oct. '73 and 21 Nov. '74. Bush attended Harvard Business School full-time between the Fall of '73 and the Spring of '75, and nothing has ever been said or written about Bush taking trips to Denver during this period. Heldt concludes that, based on the relevant documents, "it would appear that the way Bush fulfilled his duty was not by attending the obligated number of drills, but by having his name added to the roster of a paper unit at the ARPC (ORS) Denver Colorado for an extra six months." The above is from http://www.bushwatch.com/bushgate2.htm. The government document referenced in the quote is described by the recipient on this page. Regards, A |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Deckman Date: 12 Aug 03 - 06:47 PM To everyone: I've been hearing of President George bush's rumored A.W.O.L. Can anyone here, post a realistic and reasoned answer to this this? I'm not a supporter of him, even though we've sat in the same chair, but I am trying to get to the truth of this issue. Was George bush A.W.O.L.? |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Deckman Date: 12 Aug 03 - 06:04 PM Rapaire ... correct me if I'm mistaken, but I think you have just defined the consequences for being AWOL. AWOL means "Absent Without Leave." That means that you did NOT report to your duty station, as assigned, on time, and in condition to serve your country. Again please, correct me if I'm incorrect. Bob(deckman)Nelson |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Rapparee Date: 12 Aug 03 - 05:31 PM Deckman, I can only go by what I remember of the regulations of the period. In the Illinois Army Reserve National Guard, failure to make three drills without excuse could get you involuntarily activated. Miss THAT and the FBI came around inquiring about you. This may have varied from state to state. And of course, the Army Reserve would have worked by different rules. GII was in the Texas Air Guard; I was basing my response upon what I (think?) I remember of the regulations of the National Guard in the early '70s, when GII was in the ANG. And, of course, he was an officer and I just a poor, benighted, three-stripe sergeant who didn't get ordered to a disciplinary unit. Of course, I did go to drills and summer camp and state duty and even, God help me, was involuntarily activated with the whole damned unit (most to Chu Lai, me to Korea). |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: TheBigPinkLad Date: 12 Aug 03 - 04:36 PM George II was the pudding king's son and father to that tyrant -- last king of America -- George III (not counting Elvis, the Great Pretender). |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Don Firth Date: 12 Aug 03 - 03:42 PM And after a long, hard day of invading countries with third-rate military forces (and no WMDs), making touch-and-go landings on aircraft carriers, and generally screwing up the world, here he is, relaxing in front of the television with his cowboy boots on. YEEHAW!!! (Or is that "HEE HAW?") Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Deckman Date: 12 Aug 03 - 03:33 PM Rapaire ... I beg to differ with you. NOT showing up for reserve duty clearly IS AWOL. Unless the rules have changed since the 1950's and 1960's. If I am wrong, please educate me. Respectfully, Bob(deckman)Nelson |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Rapparee Date: 12 Aug 03 - 03:00 PM Not showing up for reserve duty drills isn't being AWOL and isn't considered such. It is, or was in the early 70s, sufficient reason for being returned involuntarily to active duty. In 1979 Jimmy Carter toured the 3 Mile Island reactor. At the time, someone asked, "Why the hell is he doing that? What makes him think that he knows anything or can do anything?" The response was that Carter has a degree in nuclear engineering, earned at Annapolis. From what I have learned, George II might have been a lousy reservist, but he still could fly a plane. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 12 Aug 03 - 03:00 PM Sorry, I think somebody already did a Shrub bobble-head and it looks much more like the real thing than the jet pilot figure. CLICK HERE. Well... |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Don Firth Date: 12 Aug 03 - 02:07 PM Ah! But could Shatner land the Enterprise on a carrier deck? It occurs to me that they could have guaranteed at least a measure of authenticity had they made it a bobble-head doll. . . . Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Little Hawk Date: 12 Aug 03 - 01:54 PM That's telling it like it is, Leo! Well said. By God, with Shatner at the helm you'd see some action and you'd see some changes around here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: GUEST,Leo Condie from the USS Iraqi Freedom Date: 12 Aug 03 - 11:35 AM i'm glad someone is finally standing up for a brave, talented and honest man on this board. all of you, making up lies about him to further your own cause, you come off as completely pathetic in the face of real solid facts. because it IS a fact that William Shatner, even if not a great starship captain, can record a log like no other man. george bush on the other hand, what a tosser... |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Little Hawk Date: 12 Aug 03 - 11:21 AM Got that right, Alba. It is my firm opinion that had Willam Shatner been born an American he would today be the President of the United States and be serving his 4rth consecutive term, just like Roosevelt did. Just imagine... - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Alba Date: 12 Aug 03 - 11:10 AM and right up there with them...John Travlota.....but you know none of them can Captain a Starship like William Shatner. When any of them can do that and they make the bloody Doll. Ill buy it:>) JD |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Little Hawk Date: 12 Aug 03 - 10:55 AM My God, teribus, my already unbounded admiration for GWB has now hit the stratosphere due to your calm and objective postings! I will have to get right out and buy at least ten of those figures... :-) You are quite right that carrier landings are tremendously challenging, and one (class of) carrier may differ quite a bit from another in the technique required. A great many planes were lost in WWII due to bad carrier landings/takeoffs...sometimes more than were lost in combat, I believe. I've tried it on various flight simulation programs and if the program is realistic...it ain't easy! So how come we haven't got Clint Eastwood into this discussion yet? Clint has been filmed flying various hot jets too. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Amos Date: 12 Aug 03 - 09:57 AM Teribus: How so? Do you have some factual data about his flight record? A |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Teribus Date: 12 Aug 03 - 09:55 AM kendall, The facts as stated by yourself "I have no doubt that he can fly a plane." That is as gross an understatement as saying that Clapton could play a guitar. At one stage in his life GWB could do a damn sight more than just fly a plane. Not only could he just pilot an aircraft, he could do so in all weather, day or night, in close company with another aircraft and he could also fight that aircraft. I can play a guitar - but there is on hell of a difference between the levels of accomplishment between myself and Eric Clapton. "But, the fact is, he hasn't flown one since he went AWOL." This is ground that has been gone over many times in the past - what you state here is definitely not a fact - had he gone AWOL he would have been charged, as far as I know he never was. What on earth ever happened to the principle of giving credit where credit is due, fairly and without bias. In refusing to do this, all that is demonstrated is a meanness of spirit, that beggars description. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: EBarnacle1 Date: 12 Aug 03 - 08:53 AM He should have been at the controls of an Osprey. Might have given him a little perspective on safety. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: GUEST,Redhorse at work Date: 12 Aug 03 - 08:27 AM But wouldn't the 9/11 one have to show whim scuttling round the country on Air Force One looking for somewhere safe to hide? |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: kendall Date: 12 Aug 03 - 07:29 AM Facts? you want facts? I have no doubt that he can fly a plane. But, the fact is, he hasn't flown one since he went AWOL. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Hrothgar Date: 12 Aug 03 - 07:29 AM Forty bucks US money? No way!!!! Unless you really, really wanted something into which you could stick pins. They slipped up with the 9/15 availability date, too = they could have used 9/11 and made it really tacky. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Teribus Date: 12 Aug 03 - 06:41 AM GUEST 12 Aug 03 - 04:27 AM "yes and you're completely objective...." Thank you for saying so, albeit that I fully understand that your comment was not meant as a compliment - sarcasm is the poorest form of wit - it's a real bitch when facts can't be made to fit in with your prejudices. gnu: Regarding your man "Ahhnold" - He ain't a Governor yet - not by a long shot - He can't fly a Harrier - He can't travel through time Of course according to the sources attributing at least the last of those two talents to the man - America won the war in Vietnam. Objective and factual enough for you Guest?? |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Peter Kasin Date: 12 Aug 03 - 05:30 AM I want an elite Irwin Silber action figure. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: gnu Date: 12 Aug 03 - 05:09 AM Hey. Ahhnold has an action figure and he's only a governor. Of course, he can fly a Harrier and travel through time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: GUEST Date: 12 Aug 03 - 04:27 AM yes and you're completely objective.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Teribus Date: 12 Aug 03 - 03:23 AM From the "Doll" Advert, backed up by press coverage: "While at the controls of an S-3B Viking aircraft..., designated "Navy 1," he overflew the carrier before handing it over to the pilot for landing." What is stated above is totally credible. From personal experience, that was simply courtesy, my own example of that was down at HMS Osprey, RN helicopter base, Portland, I was given a joy-ride in a Wessex III ASW helicopter. Although all my flying had been fixed wing, the pilot let me handle the aircraft, taking me through some basic manouevres, he let me fly the helicopter for the complete approach down to the hover over the runway, he then took over and slotted it into it's landing position on the flight line. From Bobert: "Maybe, just maybe, he was in the plane but not actually, ahhhh, flying the danged thing. No matter, Vegas still has the odds at 121 to 1 that if Bush actually had to attempt a carrier landing without a real pilot in the plane, he'd crash!" By "real pilot", I trust Bobert means one qualified for deck landings. Fact is Bobert, most pilots, who have not been trained to land an aircraft on a carriers deck, would crash. Another little story, by way of an example, it concerns a USMC aviator, a Major, on loan to the RN at RNAS Heron. He was there to teach the RN Phantom pilots how to fight the aircraft. The RN had bought the F-4 Phantom and a direct copy of the flight simulator the USN had at San Diego. Now this guy was a very experienced pilot with lots of deck landings under his belt. I had a ride in the simulator with him in the drivers seat and me in the Observers seat. We did three trips, the only point of difference between the simulator in San Diego and the one in Yeovilton was that the carrier characteristics in the Heron simulator were those of HMS Ark Royal. In all the simulator trips this very experienced pilot made, not once did he ever manage a successful deck landing. From NicoleC: "....calling GWB an "Elite Aviator" is a rather stomach-churning insult to the real elite aviators who stick their necks on the line." Well the term Aviator encompasses quite a range: Private Pilots Licence, VFR, single engine; Above with an instrument rating; Private Pilots License, twin engine; Flying Instructor; Commercial Pilot, light aircraft; Commercial Pilot, multi-engine, Jet; Military, Transport Pilot; Military, Maritime Recon Pilot; Military, Strike; Military, Fighter; Military, Fighter, all-weather interceptor; Test Pilot. GWB, was fully qualified as an all-weather interceptor, fighter pilot - Fact. Believe me, such a qualification is not handed out with the cornflakes in the morning - you have to bloody well earn it, doesn't matter who your daddy is. GWB's terms of service in the US ANG roughly equates to the expected time of service for a short term flying commission in the Royal Navy. So, when looked at objectively, it's not such a "stomach churning insult" as GWB detractors like to make out. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Stilly River Sage Date: 12 Aug 03 - 02:06 AM It fits. A plastic toy. Plastic comes from oil. Dubya fought this war over oil (despite his protests to the contrary). |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: GUEST,Paul D Date: 12 Aug 03 - 01:30 AM Don't worry, folks. Even if you don't order one, they'll alter the shipping records in Florida and bill you for it anyway. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Little Hawk Date: 12 Aug 03 - 12:51 AM Naw... You have the wrong idea about Martians, Amos. Martians are hip to that kind of thing and will not be fooled. If you can corner the market on enough of those George Bush Elite Aviator dolls, though, (assuming they're available before August 31st) you can strike a good deal with the Martian figure collectors after the victory celebrations, which should be happening by, oh, Sep 3rd at the latest, I figure. The only thing that'll fetch more from a Martian action figure collector is an unopened original issue James T. Kirk in the harvest gold lycra top with phaser. Those are just about priceless. You got one of them and you're set for life. Oh, an original Spock is damn good too! Bones? Well, you can still get a Martian dome house or a land speeder for him if he's original issue, but he's sort of a second-stringer. An action figure of Jerry Lewis will get you atomized right quick, so hide those for God's sake! Same goes for Rodney Dangerfield and Howard Cosell. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Amos Date: 12 Aug 03 - 12:17 AM Maybe we could use these as a sort of feinting manuver iin the upcoming clash witht he Martians. If they eat a few of these and discover how bad-tasting Earthlings are, they'll give itup for a bad show and go attack Jupiter.... A |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Little Hawk Date: 12 Aug 03 - 12:15 AM Did I say "6 inch" figure? Sorry, it's 12 inch...or 1/6 scale in other words. There is no way you can get a 6 inch figure with articulating fingers. There are limits to what even the Chinese can do... - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Little Hawk Date: 11 Aug 03 - 11:43 PM HOLY MILITARIA, BATMAN!!! This is gonna be a hot item with collectors, and they did the head sculpt quite well too. These figures are highly detailed, the equipment being particularly well done, but they are still not as good as the Dragon brand figures from Taiwan...some of which have individually movable fingers as well as all the other major joints in the body. If Dragon did GBJ you could raise his middle finger in the famous salute (aimed at whomever you please). Let's hope Dragon sees fit to do their own George Bush Jr 6-inch figure soon. Alba - It's not 14-year-olds who collect this stuff (mostly). It's adults from their twenties to their fifties who do. Believe me, I know about this, because I have been a hobby item collector for years. Kids play video games and do a little Dungeons & Dragons cum Sci-Fi type stuff like the Warhammer figures. Adults collect historical military figures and military vehicle models...or model trains...or model cars. Dharmabum - I'm sorry to tell you that it is most certainly not anatomically correct. You'd be surprised to know how odd these military figures look when their outer gear and clothing is removed. The knee joints and hip joints and other fulcrums are clearly far from human in contour. The torso likewise is lacking certain features such as nipples, hair, navel, and genitalia, and the entire pubic region is vestigial and sexless, to say the least. Sort of robot-like. Quite disappointing. The best idea with these guys is KEEP THE CLOTHES ON 'EM AT ALL TIMES!!! They look great and very manly as long as you do that, and they can assume virtually any position except for certain of the toughest yoga postures. GUEST - Good guess. All those figures are made in China, and to a pretty impressive level of quality too. Downright amazing in some cases. I shudder to think how little the workers are paid for doing it. The Dragon line alone must have put out maybe 300 different figures by now, mostly of WWII soldiers, but some of the later wars, and some of law enforcement officers, and so on...it's a big business, and adult collectors are its customers. It's rather comparable to collecting diecast 1/12 scale cars, you might say, but more military. They can definitely do it without GW's permission, cos he's a public figure, but they CAN'T do me or Spaw without our permission, so be thankful for small favours. (I've always fancied being done in Sioux Indian regalia or else a suit of armour...) And Bill, you are dead right...HOT collector item somewhere down the line. At $39.99, that's a steal! Yes, indeedy! :-) And teribus... Give us a break, man! We are proud of our "lack of perspective and objectivity" on this matter... (snicker) - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 11 Aug 03 - 09:02 PM I'm so damned proud to be an AMERICAN I could just shit. Bruce |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: GUEST Date: 11 Aug 03 - 08:59 PM The REALLY sad part is these things are probably made by slave labor in Communist China. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Jim Dixon Date: 11 Aug 03 - 07:14 PM In answer to heric's question: Yes, I think they can do this without GWB's permission, at least in America, because GWB is a "public figure." Legally, it's no different from drawing a caricature of him in an editorial cartoon, or putting his picture on the cover of a book about him (e.g. Molly Ivins' Shrub). Click here for an article about the Princess of Wales Memorial Fund vs. The Franklin Mint. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I make no comment. . . . From: Gareth Date: 11 Aug 03 - 06:57 PM Well - as Mudcatters will know from other threads I am not a fan of GWB Jnr - but, hell he is your president, not ours. You will also be aware that I am a Railway enthusiast. (Danger - Anorak Alert) One of he things we do when modeling British Railways is "weather" our models ie put the dirt and the grime and the rust on them, as real rolling stock was. I believe the US of A modelers do the same. Now just supposing GWB Jnr had attempted to land, in control, on that carrier. Musical Interlude look up the "A-25" song in the DT Click 'Ere I think we can assumne that there would have been a nasty mess, probably a "flamer", or a "bounce" over the wall, or both. A pint of "Bitter" to the 'Catter, or "lurker" who can provide the best image of GWN jnr, after the body was recovered. No need to buy the GWB Jnr doll, the features would be unrecognisable, burnt, or after a day or two in the water, any "weathered" "Action Man" or "GI Joe" would suffice as the basic model. Photo's in JPG format to garethwilliams@gareth72.fsnet.uk.co. I'll put the repeatable ones up on the Web. Remember, the soft tissues go first. Still let us be happy it did not happen - President Chenney (SP) anyone ?? And yes I have got a sick mind !!! Gareth |
