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Subject: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: raredance Date: 13 Aug 03 - 09:23 PM I am looking for recordings of "Hangman" ("Maid Freed from the Gallows")(Child 95)in any of its many variations. I have a "ton" of texts and some printed tunes. I may even have more recordings of it than I am aware of. A niece is a budding film maker in southern California. A colleague and her are finishing up a horror type movie and want a version of the song sung by yours truly to run with the closing credits. It's never too late to be in the movies. rich r |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: masato sakurai Date: 13 Aug 03 - 10:08 PM Info from Folk Music - An Index to Recorded Resources: Hangman(, Hangman) [Ch 95/Sh 28]From folktrax: MAID FREED FROM THE GALLOWS, THE - "Hold up your hand, dear Judge" Ch: "O the Prickle Holly Bush that pricks my heart so sore" - CHILD #95 - ROUD#144 - SUMNER BM 1888 - BROADWOOD ECS 1893 pp112-113 Sumner Somerset/ Buckinghamsh "The Prickly Bush" - GREIG-DUNCAN 2 p222 1v/m - BROADWOOD ECS 1893 pp112-113 from Sumner BM/ Buckinghamsh "The Prickly Bush" - SHARP-MARSON FSS 5 pp54-55 Mrs Overd, Langport, Somerset "The Briery Bush" - Sel Ed 2 pp4-5 - Novello School Series 5 - SHARP-KARPELES CSC 1974 pp118-121 Mrs Overd, Langport 1909/ Mrs Betsy Pike, Somerton, Somerset 1906 1v/m/ Wm Major, Flamborough, Yorksh 1910 1v/m ("O the Prickerly Bush") - JFSS 19 pp228-38 (notes & related cante-fable & singing game) - JFSS 35 p304 - UDAL DF 1922 pp323-4 Procs of Dorset Field Club 27 1906 Herbert Pentin (c) "The Prickly Bush" - WILLIAMS FSUT 1923 pp281-3 #498 Robert Little, South Marston, Wiltsh & Tim Fox, Bampton, Oxfordsh 1v/ch/ #218 Charles Tanner, Bampton, Oxfordsh 5dv/ch (w/o) "The Prickly Brier" - REEVES IOP 1958 pp153-5 Miss Bertha Paul: Langport, Somerset 1908 (w/o) - REEVES EC 1960 pp184-5 2var Gardiner: Hampsh 1907 & Hammond: Marlborough, Wiltsh 1908 (w/o) "Prickty Bush" - PURSLOW WS 1968 p95 Gardiner: Charles Chivers, Basingstoke, Hampsh 1906 "The Prickly Bush" - COPPER SSB 1973 pp282-3 Fred Hewett, Mapledurwell Hampsh 1959 "Prickle-Holly Bush" - PALMER EBECS 1979 #60 pp113-4 Mike Yates: Bill Whiting, Longcot, Berksh 1972 ("Oh slack thy horse cried George") --- SHARP FSSA1917/32 #28 (vol 1 208-14) 11 var: T.Jeff Stockton, Flag Pond, Tenn 1916/ Mrs Sarah Buckner, Black Mountain, NC 1916 Mrs Orilla Keeton, Mount Fair, Va 1916/ N.B.Chisholm & Mrs Betty Smith, Woodridge, Va 1916/ Mrs Mary Anne Short, Pine Mt, Harlan Co., Ky 11917/ Miss Alice Sloan, Barbourville, Knox Co., Ky 19117/ Mrs Laura Donald, Dewey, Va 1918/ Mrs Effie Michell, Burnsville, NC 1918/ Mrs Laurel Jones, Burnsville 1918/ Mrs Sina Boone, Shoal Crek, Burnsville 1918/ Mrs Molly E.Bowyer, Villamont, Va 1918 - FUSON BKH 1930 pp113-4 Lizzie Dills, Ky (w/o) "The Hangman's Song" ("Through the pines (x2) - where the sun never shines") - HUDSON FSM 1936 pp111-114 Jessie Harvey/ Lois Womble, Mi (w/o) "The Girl FFTG"/ Ala (w/o) "The Hangman's Song" ("I went down to the old depot as the train was passing by")/ Mrs Flora Stafford Swetnam Mi (w/o) "The Hangman's Song" - HENRY FSSH 1938 pp93-8 Cora Clark, NC 1929/ Mary Riddle, NC 2v (w/o)/ Laura Ferrara, NJ 3v (w/o)/ Hettie Twiggs, NC 1931 (w/o)/ Mrs Calvina S Brown, Ala (w/o)/ James Taylor, Va (w/o)/ Wilma Clark, Mi (w/o)/ T D Clark, Mi (w/o)/ Mrs Flora Stafford Swetnam, Mi (w/o) "The Hangman's Song" - FLANDERS-BROWN-BARRY NGMS 1939 p117 - BELDEN Mo 1940 p66 - RANDOLPH OFS 1 pp143-8 Wm Lewis, Mi 1927/ Mrs Emma Baird Chambliss, Mi 1929 1v (w/o)/ Mrs Jeannie Pendleton Hall, Tex 1930 (w/o)/ Mrs May Kennedy McCord, Mi 1938/ Mary Drain, Ark 1942/ Mrs H L McDonald, Ark 1942 "Hold your hands old man" - COFFIN-RENWICK BBNA 1950 p243 - BROWN NC 1952 2 p143 - WARNER TAFS 1984 #105 pp268-9 Frank Proffitt, Watuga Co, NC 1960 8v/m "Hang Man" - McINTOSH FSSGIO pp39-41 Mrs Lessie Parrish, Ill 1937 "My Golden Ball" - Cf DAUGHTER ELLEN (Children's Ring Game with relations) -- Various Versions CASS-30-0528 - "Charlie" (Walter) LUCAS (hurdlemaker) rec by Francis Collinson, Sixpenny Handley, Wiltsh 1949: RPL 9497 (78) "The Prickle Holly Bush"/ rec by PK at "Village Barn Dance" March 1951: 7T-008/ COLUMBIA SL-206 1952/ 502/ Marjorie WESTBURY (soprano), John RUNGE (tenor) & choir of The Red Maids School Bristol in an arrangement by Francis Collinson of Lucas's song rec 31/3/55: RPL 21750 - Ted KEEN rec by Seamus Ennis, North Marston, Bletchley, Buckinghamsh, 25/6/52: RPL 18140 "Prickle-lie Bush" - Sarah Ann TUCK & Julia SCADDON rec by PK, Chideock, Dorset 1952: CAEDMON TC-1145/ TOPIC 12-T-160/RPL 18694 (Mrs E BARNES & Sarah Ann TUCK 1952: talk bef)/ 502 "The Prickelly Bush" - Fred HEWETT rec by Bob Copper, Mapledurwell, Hampsh 1955: RPL 21859/ 426/ TOPIC 12-T-317 1977/TSCD-653 1998 (Tragic Ballads)/ ARGO ZDA-71 "The Prickle Holly Bush" - George "Pop" MAYNARD (frag) rec by PK, Copthorne, Sussex 1956: 279 "Prickle Thorny Bush" - A L Lloyd: RIVERSIDE RLP-12-623 1956 (coll by Fuller-Maitland, Somerset) - Steve BENBOW (voc/gtr) with Vic PITT (bass) rec by PK, London Jan 1959 RTR-0494/ 091 "Slack your rope, hangman" (from Leadbelly) - Ewan McCOLL & Peggy SEEGER: ARGO ZDA-71 1967 (Hewett & Ky) - Mrs Cunningham (Susie Phaidi Oig), rec by Hugh Shields, Teelin, Co Donegal: LEADER LEA-4055 1968 "The Weary Gallows" - Finbar & Eddie FUREY: TRANSATLANTIC TRA-191 1969 - DRUIDS (Group): ARGO ZFB- 22 1970 - WATERSONS: TOPIC 12-TS-415 1981 coll in Berksh by Mike Yates) "Slack your rope, hangman": on Radio 2: 30/9/87: CASS- 0404/ rec Farnham Folk Day on Radio 2: 4/1/83 CASS-15-0788 --- Bascom Lamar LUNSFORD rec 1949 (unacc & with gtr) & Bradley BROWNING rec by Alan & Elizabeth Lomax, Arjay, Kentucky 1937: RPL 13795 (Lib of Congress) "Hangman's Tree" - Jean RITCHIE (unacc) rec New York Sept 1950: RPL 16043/ (voc/ dulc): COLLECTOR CLE-1201 1956 "The Hangman" - Jean JENKINS (unacc) rec by PK, London 2/4/57: 915 - ODETTA (with gtr) rec USA: TRADITION TLP-1025 1958 "The Gallows Tree" (from Leadbelly) - ORIGINAL RIVERSIDERS Skiffle Group rec by PK, London 1958: RPL LP 24159 "The Gallows Pole" - Almeda RIDDLE rec by Alan Lomax, Arkansas 1959: ROUNDER CD-1705 1997 "Hangman Tree" - KINGSTON TRIO: EMI T-1474 1961- Frank PROFFITT rec by Frank & Anne Warner 1960 9v learnt from Nancy Prather, father's sister: 931/ APPLESEED APR-CD-036 2000 "Hangman" - LEADBELLY: TRANSATLANTIC XTRA- 1126/ ISLAND FOLK 101 (boxed set) 1975 - John Jacob NILES: VANGUARD SRL-7624 1965 "The Hangman" - Jimmy DRIFTWOOD (voc/ gtr/ auto harp): RCA Victor LSP-1994 1959 - LED ZEPPELIN III (WE-421) /CASS-60-0812 - Frank PROFITT Jr (unacc): CLOUDLANDS (Tenn) CLC-008 1992 CASS-1356- Hobart SMITH (voc with gtr) rec Saltville, Va 1942/ AFS 8723 B1/ ROUNDER 11661-1799-2-2001 --- Swedish Version: "Den Bortsalda" RELP-5004 |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: John P Date: 13 Aug 03 - 10:57 PM My two favorite recordings are Led Zeppelin's ("Gallows Pole", from Led Zeppelin 3) and my own ("Hangman", from Telynor 2). There's a bit of a sound file on the Telynor site. Hmm, the site seems to be down. Check back in a day or so. John Peekstok |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie) Date: 14 Aug 03 - 02:15 PM Masato- I'm floored! What a library you must have... Do you have that kind of information at your fingertips for all traditional songs? Very impressive- and a trifle overwhelming. Thanks. |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: GUEST,MMario Date: 14 Aug 03 - 02:22 PM gee Masato - do you have to be so terse in your answers? Pulling information out of you is like a game of twenty questions! *grin* |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: masato sakurai Date: 14 Aug 03 - 05:35 PM I only copied and pasted them. Several recordings are at the Max Hunter Collection: 0216 HangmanAnd at the Wolfe Collection:
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: RolyH Date: 14 Aug 03 - 06:04 PM The Steve Benbow version also released as a single (on Columbia DB 7691) in 1965 in the UK. |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: raredance Date: 14 Aug 03 - 11:27 PM Masato, nice work! I glanced at the list yesterday and thought it was all references to texts. When I looked more closely I realized that texts and recordings were intermingled. So far I have found several in my recording inventory (excluding the Smothers Brothers) including 2 not on the lists above (Burl Ives and Steeleye Span). I don't have a recording of Jean's, but I do have the score in her books. I had already come across the Max Hunter files. I also noticed an error in the "Hangman" list. Item 23 lists a Chad Mitchell Trio recording called "Gallows Tree". That track is actually a version of "McPherson's Lament". rich r |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: GUEST,Sandy Paton sans cookie Date: 15 Aug 03 - 01:23 AM I learned a version of "The Pricklye Bush" from A. L. Lloyd in 1958. Taught it to Judy Collins in Denver in 1959. I think it's on her first Elektra recording. Caroline and I recorded Frank Proffitt's Child #95 titled "Joshuay" ( a fine version of the ballad) on our Folk-Legacy "New Harmony" (CD-100). We sing it in parallel fifths, by the way, so no matter which voice you tend to follow on the recording, you're still singing the melody. Using a different, cookieless computer these days. Gonna have to get that fixed, when I can remember what my password is. Sandy Paton |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: raredance Date: 20 Aug 03 - 10:13 PM Sandy, Thanks for the addition. I have that album (LP not CD)and didn't catch that one on my fast scan of LP covers because of the unusual title. rich r |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: GUEST,Pete Peterson Date: 20 Aug 03 - 10:36 PM as a Charlie Poole fan, I beg to point out that HE recorded it; it hasn't been reissued on ano of the three County CDs but the original recording was Columbia 15385, according to Kinney Rorrer's book. I wonder if he had ever heard of Prof. Child?! Rich, for your specific question, if you want a "pretty" version one of the Prickle Holly Bush variants (i first heard Bonnie Dobson's recording) would be nice; a more haunting (yes, that IS the word I want) would be the one that the Patons recorded, which may be close to what you want. The Poole may be a little too rough for your needs-- but you could use his words & tune and sing it yourself as described in your first post. good luck! |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: Greg F. Date: 21 Aug 03 - 08:54 AM Then there's rather terse version by the Smothers Brothers.... |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: GUEST,Bold Reynard Date: 21 Aug 03 - 10:01 AM |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: GUEST,Bold Reynard Date: 21 Aug 03 - 10:10 AM Sorry, I pressed the wrong key. David Jones does a nice version of "Prickly bush" on his Widdecombe Fair album. I recently made a tape of a number of Child ballads for my mother, and threw in the Led Zeppelin "Gallows Tree". I don't know whether she's picked up on it yet: she used to believe they were great contributors to the decay of modern society. |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: Fossil Date: 31 Jan 04 - 05:39 AM I'm not sure whether Masato's huge list includes this one, but Nic Jones provides a rather nice version of "The Prickly Bush" on the "Unearthed" CD released in 2001. I was researching it with a view to performing it when I came across this thread. |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: The Borchester Echo Date: 31 Jan 04 - 06:03 AM The version on Unearthed (Mollie Music MMCD02/03), obtainable here is indeed fantastic. The Prickle Eye Bush as performed by John Spiers & Jon Boden on Bellow (FECD175) from here is er...loud, and fun. |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: breezy Date: 31 Jan 04 - 06:19 AM got that one and then Boden and Spiers do an upbeat version which retains attention because it is a rather 'boring' song as only one word changes each verse |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: dick greenhaus Date: 31 Jan 04 - 09:33 AM Just to mention: CHarlie Poole's version appears on Juneberry 104: "Charlie Poole-the Remaining Titles", along with all the music he recorded that isn't included on the County CDs. Available (in a spiffy new packaging job) from CAMSCO Music. |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: The Borchester Echo Date: 31 Jan 04 - 11:31 AM THE PRICKLE EYE BUSH (chorus) Oh the prickle eye bush That pricks my heart full sore And if ever I get out of this prickle eye bush Then I never will get in it any more Hangman stay your hand Stay it for a while For I think I see my sister coming Over yonder stile Oh sister have you brought me gold Or silver to set me free For to save my body from the cold cold ground And my neck from the gallows tree Oh no I've not brought you gold Or silver to set you free For to save your body from the cold cold ground And your neck from the gallows tree (chorus) Hangman stay your hand Stay it for a while For I think I see my mother coming Over yonder stile Oh mother have you brought me gold Or silver to set me free For to save my body from the cold cold ground And my neck from the gallows tree Oh no I've not brought you gold Or silver to set you free For to save your body from the cold cold ground And your neck from the gallows tree (chorus) Hangman stay your hand Stay it for a while For I think I see my own true love Coming over yonder stile Oh true love have you brought me gold Or silver to set me free For to save my body from the cold cold ground And my neck from the gallows tree Oh yes I have brought you gold And silver to set you free For to save your body from the cold cold ground And your neck from the gallows tree (chorus) last time '...and now that I'm out of that PEB I never will get in it any more...' Jon Boden says he learned this version round the campfires at Forest School Camps. ' Boring' it ain't! |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: GUEST,brian d Date: 04 Feb 04 - 02:07 PM This will hopefully reach you. I have done an exhaustive search for information about a band called The Goldwaters. I found that you, rich r, had posted in 99 that you had a copy of that album. I would very much like to hear from you, and possibly talk about purchasing that from you. I have a very good friend that was actually a member of that band - and he doesn't have a copy. My email address is brian@onweb.net. Thank you so much for your reply.... Brian |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: Stilly River Sage Date: 04 Feb 04 - 09:05 PM Brian, if you'll join mudcat (an easy thing to do, and free) then you can send a personal mail message directly to RichR. He last posted here in August, so it might be a longshot that he'd see your message. I'll send him a PM and let him know to look for it, however. SRS |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: Roberto Date: 05 Feb 04 - 01:17 PM THE MAID FREED FROM THE GALLOWS (#95) Three recordings: A. L. Lloyd's; Martin Carthy's; Leadbelly's. Another recording that I like is the one by John Jacob Niles, on the lp "Folk Balladeer". The Prickly Bush A. L. Lloyd, with Alf Edwards, concertina, on English & Scottish Folk Ballads, Topic TSCD480 (original LP release, 1964) Oh hangman, hold your hand – he cried And hold it for a while I think I see me own dear father Coming o'er the yonder style Oh father, have you brought me gold And will you set me free Or have you come to see me hung All on this high gallows tree? Oh no, I haven't brought thee gold And I'll not set thee free For I am come to see you hung All on that high gallows tree Oh, the prickly bush, the prickly bush It pricks me heart full sore And if ever I get out of that prickly bush I'll never get in any more Oh hangman, hold your hand – he cried And hold it for a while I think I see me own dear mother Coming o'er the yonder style Oh mother, have you brought me gold And will you set me free Or have you come to see me hung All on this high gallows tree? Oh no, I haven't brought thee gold And I'll not set thee free For I am come to see you hung All on that high gallows tree Oh, the prickly bush, the prickly bush It pricks me heart full sore And if ever I get out of that prickly bush I'll never get in any more Oh hangman, hold your hand – he cried And hold it for a while I think I see my own dear sweetheart Coming o'er the yonder style Oh sweetheart, have you brought me gold Or will you set me free Or have you come to see me hung All on this high gallows tree? Oh yes, I've brought you gold – she cried And I would set you free For I would never see you hung All on that old gallows tree Oh, the prickly bush, the prickly bush It pricked my heart full sore And now that I'm out of that prickly bush I'll never get in any more The Prickle-Holly Bush Martin Carthy with the Watersons, on The Watersons, Green Fields, Topic TSCD500, original lp release 12T415, 1981 Oh, slack your horse, cries George Come slack it for a while For I think I see my father coming Over yonder stile Did you bring gold? Did you bring silver to set me free? For to keep my body from the cold gaol wall And me neck from the high gallows tree I've no gold I've no silver to set you free But I have come for to see you hang-O Hang upon the high gallows tree O the prickle-holly bush, it pricks, it pricks O it pricks my heart full sore And if ever I get out of the prickle-holly bush I'll never get in there any more Oh, slack your horse, cries George Come slack it for a while For I think I see my mother coming Over yonder stile Did you bring gold? Did you bring silver to set me free? For to keep my body from the cold gaol wall And me neck from the high gallows tree I've no gold I've no silver to set you free But I have come for to see you hang-O Hang upon the high gallows tree O the prickle-holly bush, it pricks, it pricks O it pricks my heart full sore And if ever I get out of the prickle-holly bush I'll never get in there any more Oh, slack your horse, cries George Come slack it for a while For I think I see my sister coming Over yonder stile Did you bring gold? Did you bring silver to set me free? For to keep my body from the cold gaol wall And me neck from the high gallows tree I've no gold I've no silver to set you free But I have come for to see you hang-O Hang upon the high gallows tree O the prickle-holly bush, it pricks, it pricks O it pricks my heart full sore And if ever I get out of the prickle-holly bush I'll never get in there any more Oh, slack your horse, cries George Come slack it for a while For I think I see my sweetheart coming Over yonder stile Did you bring gold? Did you bring silver to set me free? For to keep my body from the cold gaol wall And me neck from the high gallows tree I've brought gold I've brought silver to set you free For I've not come for to see you hang-O Hang upon the high gallows tree O the prickle-holly bush, it pricks, it pricks O it pricks my heart full sore And now that I'm out of the prickle-holly bush I'll never get in there any more The Gallis Pole Leadbelly, The Tradition Masters, Tradition TCD 1086 Father, did you bring me the silver? Faher, did you bring me the gold? What did you bring me, dear father Keep from the gallis pole? Yeah, what did you? Yeah, what did you? What did you bring me – keep from the gallis pole? Spoken In olden times years ago When you put a man in prison behind the bars in jailhouse If he had 15 or 25 or 30 dollars you'd save him from the gallis pole Cause they gon' hang 'im if he didn't bring 'em a little money (…) Mother, did you bring me the silver? Mother, did you bring me the gold? What did you bring me, dear mother Keep from the gallis pole? Yeah, what did you? Yeah, what did you? What did you bring me – keep from the gallis pole? Son, I've brought some silver Son, I've brought some gold Son, I've brought you everything Keep you from the gallis pole Yeah, I've brought it Yeah, I've brought it I've brought you – keep you from the gallis pole Wife, did you bring me the silver? Wife, did you bring me the gold? What did you bring me, dear wife Keep from the gallis pole? Yeah, what did you? Yeah, what did you? What did you bring me – keep from the gallis pole? Friend, did you bring me the silver? Friend, did you bring me the gold? What did you bring me, dear friend Keep from the gallis pole? Yeah, what did you? Yeah, what did you? What did you bring me – keep from the gallis pole? |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: Garry Gillard Date: 22 Mar 09 - 02:32 AM Bellowhead do this as The Prickle-eye Bush, for example at Folk Day at the Proms, 2008. |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: GUEST,Gerry Date: 22 Mar 09 - 06:10 PM I don't think anyone has mentioned the recording by The Fagans, on their first CD, in 1991, as The Prickle Holly Bush. Some info on this recording at http://nla.gov.au/nla.cs-ma-an23661823 |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: Steve Gardham Date: 22 Mar 09 - 07:39 PM The Watersons did another very influential version before Martin joined them. |
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Subject: RE: Recordings: 'Hangman' (Child 95) From: Richie Date: 28 Dec 11 - 11:19 AM Hi, Just recorded this related version playing Nathan Hicks dulcimer from the 1930s that my grandfather used to play. My neice and nephew assited: Endurance: http://bluegrassmessengers.com/endurance--nathan-hicks-nc-circa-1936.aspx Richie |
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