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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: Benjamin Date: 29 Aug 03 - 04:45 PM M.Ted, T-Bone Walker is at number 47 on that list. And no one's mentioned Norman Blake yet! |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: Murray MacLeod Date: 29 Aug 03 - 06:27 PM Interesting endorsements of Lukather and Tedesco there, Ted. I used to read Tommy Tedesco's diary in "Guitar Player" every month, fascinating stuff. I must try to hear some more of Steve Lukather. My ex's daughter was Toto-obsessed, and used to fixate on "Luke" as she called him. It kind of spooked me, but there is no question he is a huge talent. One more name that should have been on the list, in the first five, is Blind Blake. Murray |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: jaze Date: 29 Aug 03 - 07:16 PM Joni Mitchell a non-guitarist?? You can't be serious. |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: GUEST,pdq Date: 29 Aug 03 - 08:51 PM More people who should be on some guitar player list are country greats Sam McGee, "Slim" Bryant, "Zeke" Campbell, Don Reno, and Jimmy Bryant. Studio and Rock and folk great David Bromberg is conspicuouly missing, as is Clarence White! |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 29 Aug 03 - 08:52 PM Small correction to Willie-O's post: The Allman Brothers Band doesn't have three guitarists on the list, it has four. Derek Trucks is #81. Nice to see John Fahey ranked so highly on such a rock-heavy list, but that sorta makes Leo Kottke's absence even more peculiar. Bruce |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: Midchuck Date: 29 Aug 03 - 09:43 PM Actually, Guest PDQ, Clarence White is on the list - #41. He's the only one of the great flatpickers who is. But they refer to him as "of the Byrds." I wonder if they even realized that he did fool around with an acoustic guitar once in a while. Peter. |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: kendall Date: 29 Aug 03 - 10:05 PM Lenny Breau. Chet Atkins once said, "Lenny Breau has forgotten more about the guitar than I ever knew." |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: GUEST,Frankham Date: 29 Aug 03 - 10:10 PM Groucho Marx played the guitar. He didn't get nominated. Luis Milan but he played the guitar before they called it a guitar. They called it a Viheula. Frank Hamilton |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: Sandy Mc Lean Date: 29 Aug 03 - 10:55 PM Rolling Stone makes a stupid subjective judgement from a narrow perspective. |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: simon-pierre Date: 29 Aug 03 - 11:37 PM Gary Davis? Skip James? Big Bill Broonzy? Dave Van Ronk? Kelly joe Phelps? Or Tim Sparks? Now, it's just to mention some of my favorites, there's to many holes in this list. What a lack of musical culture, it's unbelievable. |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: musicmick Date: 29 Aug 03 - 11:46 PM Frank, I'm glad that you liked Burl Ives's guitar playing because I did, too. But that wasn't himself at all. His usual accompanyist was Millard Lampbell, who later worked with Belafonte. Lampbell's guitar was best displayed on the Burl Ives recording of "Golden Vanity". Back in those days, many wonderful singers used professional accompanyists. Those unsung heros were some of the finest and most tasteful artists. I'm sure you remember Ray Bogislav (who worked with Theo Bikel), John Stauber (Leon Bibb), Dick Weissman (Judy Roderick), Paul Prestopino (Judy Collins and the Chad Mitchell Trio) and Dick Rosmini (who played for everyone else). Some backups achieved fame, of course.(David Bromberg comes to mind). Some were famous first. (Fred Hellerman was a Weaver long before he met Joan Baez). But so many great ones sat on the side of the stage in proportional obscurity. I didn't mean to suggest that Joni Mitchell is less than superbly talented as a singer, composer and creative artist but unless she has gotten a hell of a lot better on her instrument recently, I find her inclusion on any list of great guitarists akin to adding Bill Clinton's name to the ranks of saxophone immortals. |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: GUEST,pdq Date: 29 Aug 03 - 11:51 PM It took 60 posts to get to my all-time hero Dave Van Ronk! More conspicuous absentees are Dan Crary, Joe Maphis and Arthur "Guitar Boogie" Smith. Studio work by Glen Campbell deserves a mention, even if people question his Pop attitude in his personal music. Who did the guitar on Marty Robbins "El Paso"? Great stuff. Anyone heard Rich O'Brien? Martin Taylor? Frank Vignola................... |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: Margret RoadKnight Date: 30 Aug 03 - 01:57 AM John Martyn Bruce Langhorne, accompanist extraordinaire |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: Margret RoadKnight Date: 30 Aug 03 - 01:59 AM To treble the Australian content, add Chris Finnen and Bruce Mathiske |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: fat B****rd Date: 30 Aug 03 - 04:12 AM Scotty Moore, LEADBELLY, Chuck Berry, Elliot Randall if only for "Reelin' In The Years".................. |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: John Robinson (aka Cittern) Date: 30 Aug 03 - 04:20 AM If you are into guitarists, go out of your way to see/hear Woody Mann. Best regards John Robinson http://www.JulieEllison.co.uk |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: Greycap Date: 30 Aug 03 - 09:20 AM Norman Blake got missed out again,Bryan Sutton. |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: GUEST Date: 30 Aug 03 - 12:05 PM 1.TONY RICE-My opinion the best Acoustic Guitarist ever. No Acoustic/ Electric crap. But straight ahead Acoustic. And Tone and Smoothness to die for. 2.Steve Vai- IM sorry, but Steve is so far ahead of Jimi Hendrix it is pathetic. Forget the hype and just listen to the solos and the speed and unbelievable technique. 3. Grady Martin-The guy who played guitar on Marty Robbins, "El Paso" 4.Paco De Lucia- Played on Bryan Adams- Have You ever really loved a woman? 5. George Benson- Simply Amazing 6.Bryan Sutton- Listen to his break on RawHide off of Ricky Skaggs CD "Bluegrass Rules" Even if You hate Bluegrass, just give it a listen.And be honest with Yourself about how great some of these hot shot players are, Sutton will bring them back to reality. Period!!!! |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: Phil Cooper Date: 30 Aug 03 - 12:37 PM I'd second John Martyn. I'd also like to mention Dick Gaughan's instrumental work on both electric and acoustic guitar. Also, for rock guitarists, Tim Renwick was very good. I suspect a lot of the guitarists that we folkies really respect are not on Rolling Stone's radar. |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: Don Firth Date: 30 Aug 03 - 12:48 PM Uh . . . not to nit-pick, but I think you'll find that it was Millard Thomas, not Millard Lampbell who was Harry Belafonte's main guitar accompanist early on. Ray Boguslav also accompanied Belafonte for awhile. Dick Rosmini and I crossed paths a couple of times, once when he was accompanying Bob Gibson and a few years later when he was accompanying Barbara Dane. He's one helluva guitarist. He and Gibson were in Seattle for a couple of weeks, and we had several chances to get together and jam. After the Barbara Dane concert, she, Rosmini, and a whole bunch of Seattle singers got together. She opened for Bob Newhart, and only sang about five songs, so she was rearing to go. Somebody offered their living room and we had a big songfest that went well into the wee small hours of the morning. The whole mob, Barbara, Dick, and all, went out for breakfast afterward. I learned a couple of songs from Barbara. Good times! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: Benjamin Date: 30 Aug 03 - 02:38 PM Greycap, I caught Norman Blake earlier in this thread. Brownie McGhee. D'Gary, the Madagascarian Phenom. I've always thought that Paul Simon was a very under rated guitarist. |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: GUEST,pdq Date: 01 Sep 03 - 11:34 PM Charlie Christian or Barney Kessell on list? Didn't see 'um. Steve Goodman probably out-played Paul Simon, but that type of guitatr work is not going to garner votes for "best ever", although composing a neat piece to accompany an individual song is a true art. |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: musicmick Date: 02 Sep 03 - 02:29 AM Mr. Firth is correct. It was Millard Thomas. May I add a lesser known name to the3 list. John Pilla was the lead guitarist for Eric Anderson and Arlo Guthrie. He was a favorite partner of Doc Watson's. (He was a dear friend who passed too soon). |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: Dave Bryant Date: 02 Sep 03 - 05:46 AM Murray - Albert Lee was interested in the guitar at school (The Roan School, Greenwich). I can remember that when we had to paint murals in the art class, he did an excellent one of Elvis with Guitar. He was playng lead guitar in a group at school and I can remember playing several gigs with him (I played electric bass) - a couple when he stood in for the lead of the band I usually played with, and one in a scratch band for a school charity event. He was brilliant then - could play anything straight off - he didn't need to copy records as we all did - his lead guitar parts were much better than the records ! I can remember one master at the school telling him to concentrate on his school work, because playing the guitar wouldn't earn him a living - how wrong can you get ! |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: GUEST,Strollin' Johnny Date: 02 Sep 03 - 08:26 AM Has anyone mentioned James Burton? 'Hello Mary Lou' wouldn't be half the record without James' guitar. Also played with (amongst lots of others) Emmylou's Hot Band and, of course, Elvis in the '70s. |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: GUEST,Li'l Aussie Bleeder. Date: 02 Sep 03 - 10:33 AM To Candyman That's Dr Washington !!! Jackie Washington was awarded an honarary doctorate of letters from Hamiltons' Mc Master University, just this year. I'd like to mention Amos Garrett for the list. LAB |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: Nerd Date: 02 Sep 03 - 12:25 PM Frank, we both mentioned Pierre Bensusan, but your post reminded me of Davy Graham, who really developed DADGAD in London in the 60s. Few guitarists in UK folk were as influential as he was, as an early influence on Renbourn, Jansch, Carthy et al. |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: M.Ted Date: 02 Sep 03 - 01:02 PM I never like saying"This great guy blow that great guy away"--but I do think Steve Vai is an incredible guitarist--one of his less well known talents: notating music for Frank Zappa, who said that Steve was the best of anyone ever at accurately notating those frenetic Zappa melodic/rhythmic phrases-- |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: C-flat Date: 02 Sep 03 - 03:44 PM I think we could make a terrific "Top 100 list" from all these ommissions! I enjoy listening to, and playing(attempting) many different styles and to try and rate them into some sort of order is impossible. I did intend to post a thread in memory of Stevie Ray Vaughan, the great bluesman, who died on August 27th, 13 years ago, but as that date coincided with my birthday I got sidetracked and forgot! Maybe next year. (if it doesn't clash with my birthday) |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: GUEST,Arkie Date: 02 Sep 03 - 04:05 PM The Rolling Stone List may have included a "who's who" of rock guitar but the compiler apparently knew very little or cared very little about other guitar styles. Merle Travis and Chet Atkins were very influential in country music and Travis also had some effect on guitarists in Great Britain as well as the United States. Travis' son, Thom Bresh, is an incredible guitarist by almost any standard. Travis, Atkins, and Bresh can bring almost any piece of music alive with a solo guitar. Nothing else is needed. Other fine guitar players deserving mention are Eddy Adcock, Jerry Reed, Comer Mullins, and Eddy Pennington. While Mullins and Pennington are not well known outside the Thumbpicker guitar circles, both are certainly masters of the instrument. Adcock is well known in bluegrass circles and Reed plays with a wreckless abandon in a style of his own. |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: GUEST,Tunesmith Date: 02 Sep 03 - 04:50 PM As always, such lists are a compromise. I remember telling Nick Jones that I thought he was a great guitarists, but he wouldn't have it. " If you call me great," he said, " what are you going to call Django".I know where Nick was coming from, but could Django have created the great guitar acompanyingments that Nick produced? Take another case: Bert Jansch -v-Davy Graham. Now I love Bert and I think he was so good way back when, but he is not a complete guitarist like Davy. I guess it's horses for courses. |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: GUEST,Herrington Corpustle Date: 02 Sep 03 - 05:22 PM Has anyone encountered Kaki King from (I think) New York city. I saw her at Winnipeg folk fest and she is well worth checking out. On technique at least she deserves to be in the top one hundred IMHO, despite being a far from well known name. Other than that, Ian Carr and Ian Stephenson from England both deserve a placing representing 'our' music and Martin Carthy wouldn't have been a bad choice either.- |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: alanabit Date: 02 Sep 03 - 05:38 PM You are right Tunesmith. At the end of the day it all comes down to what you want the musician to do with the bleeding thing. Not a bad guitarist has been mentioned on this thread. It is not the inclusion ofnames that causes problems - but the exclusion. |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: GUEST,cheyenne medders Date: 02 Sep 03 - 10:30 PM derek trucks should be at least #2 django reinhardt should be in the top 10 jeff tweedy should be listed chet atkins is top 5 duane should remain around the top BB King and Eric Clapton don't belong on this list Where is Trey Anastasio? Neil Young belongs in the top third Ry Cooder could move up a notch or four The rolling stone list is a terrible list aimed to please everyone |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: Steve Latimer Date: 02 Sep 03 - 10:53 PM Where's Willie Nelson? Bob Dylan? |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: wlisk Date: 02 Sep 03 - 11:55 PM Three of my favorites: David Bromberg, Pat Flynn (who will be at Winfield this year), and Maybell Carter who was and still is one of the most influential guitarists of all time. Bill |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: Mark Clark Date: 03 Sep 03 - 12:13 AM Since starting this thread I've been out of town. I assumed many Catters would have contrary opinions and I'm not disappointed. Many truly great guitarists have been proposed and it's hard to argue with people's suggestions. I get the impression that when people are moved by a particular band, they automatically assume the musicians must be world class. My own opinion is that the most popular bands can have some of the poorest quality musicians if you're talking about any music outside of their particular niche. Kurt Cobain comes to mind. I'm not a fan of grunge—although my daughters were—so I just took the trouble to listen to some Nirvana clips. The guitar playing sounded sophomoric to me, both the electric and the unplugged. Even though I can enjoy music in which the guitar plays only a few throbing chords, I don't think of the technique as being a skillful use of the instrument. In addition to the names everyone has contributed (and many of my favorites have been listed), I think we should add
The first guitarist to create and master an important style should have recognition but the myriad average players who couldn't possibly have invented it but can learn to immitate it don't get any special consideration from me. I may enjoy their music a great deal but they don't rank among the “greatest of all time.” They're just good competent journeymen making a living. Now if they add something important to the canon… that's different. - Mark |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: BO in KY Date: 03 Sep 03 - 01:17 AM A few more to add to the mix: I second the motion on the inclusion of Glen Campbell and Ledbelly - awesome 12-string stylists. Mark Knopfler should be further up the list Spider John Koerner and Mississippi John Hurt, who define acoustice blues. Joe Satriani, in a class by himself in realizing the melodic potential of the electric guitar; And finally, where is Phil Keagy? Saw him in concert about 15 years ago, blew me away with his virtuosity; he had more sounds coming out of that electric guitar than I thought possible. Of course, his religious stance may not have "fit" with whoever judges these things at Rolling Stone... |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: GUEST,Mario Date: 03 Sep 03 - 04:41 AM Shame on Rolling Stone! They forgot (among many others) Tony Rice! I like so much Scott Nygaard (who played with Tim O'Brien's O'Boys). Do anybody know that guitar player? |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: GUEST,James Date: 03 Sep 03 - 09:10 AM Paco de Lucia, Martin Carthy, Dave MacIsaac, Martin Simpson, Leo Kottke,Carlos Montoya, Julian Breem, Doc Watson, Ellen MacIllwaine,Eric Clapton, Stephen Stills, Jimi Hendrix, Mississippi Fred Macdowell, Bukka White..tons more..but these are my favourites, in no particular order. |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: GUEST,Dano Date: 03 Sep 03 - 10:38 AM Why is Lowell George not there??? |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: simon-pierre Date: 03 Sep 03 - 01:10 PM And me? They forgot me?? (I'm just an average guitarist, but I'm far better than Kurt Cobain you know.) |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: GUEST,Mario Date: 04 Sep 03 - 04:48 AM simon pierre, I know what you mean! |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: GUEST Date: 04 Sep 03 - 06:59 PM What about Ian Carr and Ed Boyd (Flook)???? |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: GUEST,pdq Date: 04 Sep 03 - 08:46 PM We have to keep this going to atleast 100 posts! No mention of jazz player Jim Hall, not to be confused with rocker John Hall, another fine player in his own right. Fingerpickers are in short supply. I nominate Dave Laibman for his outrageous tone, and his cousin Ricky Schoenberg or all-around mastery of the ragtime revival of the 1970's. Acoustic Disc just released a live concert ('65?) of George Barnes, whom I know only from a very old and very worn-out LP. Barnes should make top 10 on the list of anyone who hears his work. |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: Ely Date: 04 Sep 03 - 09:13 PM Third vote for Norman Blake . . . Etta Baker Paul Geramia Memphis Minnie Brownie McGhee Bonnie Raitt (well, if you put Joni Mitchell and Joan Jett on there, you have to have her) and I just saw Wayne Hancock in concert and the two electric guitarists he has in his band kick butt (Wayne himself is mostly limited to flailing away on the rhythm). |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: Ely Date: 04 Sep 03 - 09:20 PM Which reminds me: Cordell Jackson Jean Shepard |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: Midchuck Date: 04 Sep 03 - 09:27 PM Jack Lawrence Chris Newman P. |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: GUEST,pdq Date: 04 Sep 03 - 09:49 PM Memphis Minnie was one of the great blues singers of all time, but believe it or not, a very young George Barnes played the lead guitar on her best sessions. |
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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time From: mooman Date: 05 Sep 03 - 04:18 AM Oh...OK then (to make it 100!) (In no particular order) some of my favourites: Pat Metheny Paco Pena Steve Tibbetts Taj Mahal (simple but so tasteful Eric Bibb Ani DiFranco (highly original and underestimated a master of unusual tunings and dynamics) Isaac Guillory (one of the best I saw live - brilliant bass runs and lead played together - very sadly R.I.P. not long ago) Blind Blake Re: the Keith Richard discussion above, not a showy guitarist but I personally rate him as a melodic genius! Peace, moo |
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