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Lyr Req: Cheerful horn?

Forsh 05 Sep 03 - 08:54 AM
George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca 05 Sep 03 - 09:36 AM
GUEST,Alan Grace 05 Sep 03 - 09:46 AM
George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca 05 Sep 03 - 09:53 AM
masato sakurai 05 Sep 03 - 09:53 AM
masato sakurai 05 Sep 03 - 10:01 AM
GUEST,MMario 05 Sep 03 - 10:11 AM
Forsh 05 Sep 03 - 12:25 PM
RoyH (Burl) 05 Sep 03 - 12:42 PM
GUEST,Alan Grace 06 Sep 03 - 05:27 AM
Herga Kitty 06 Sep 03 - 08:56 AM
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Subject: Lyr Req: Cheerful horn?
From: Forsh
Date: 05 Sep 03 - 08:54 AM

The cheerfull horn it sounds in the morn and we'll a hunting go, and we'll a hunting go, and we'll a hunting go...Help! what's the title? how does the verse finish? couldn't find it on the DigiTrad.
Thanx


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cheerful horn?
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 05 Sep 03 - 09:36 AM

Haven't found it, but found these two

From When Bucks a-Hunting Go

CHEERFUL HORN, THE - WHEN BUCKS A-HUNTING GO

From Bracken Lane


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cheerful horn?
From: GUEST,Alan Grace
Date: 05 Sep 03 - 09:46 AM

As sung by Sid Long, Ged Grimes, Roy Harris, and other reprobates of the Nottingham Traditional Music Club (and recorded as Notts Alliance)
From the deep recesses of my memory so it could be completely wrong!

The cheerful horn she blow in the morn and we'll a hunting go
The cheerful horn she blow in the morn and we'll a hunting go
And we'll cry tally-ho-o And we'll cry tally-ho-o-o-o-o-o-o
And all me fancy fell upon Nancy And I'll sing tally-ho
And all me fancy fell upon Nancy And I'll sing tally-ho

The fox jumped over the hedge so high and the hounds all after him go...etc

Our huntsman blows his joyful horn, we'll have his brush to show..etc

Never despise a soldier boy though his station be quite low....etc


So pass the jug around me boys and homeward we will go.....etc

Don't ask me the sense of this song for to tell or the reason for to show
Don't ask me the sense of this song for to tell or the reason for to show
I don't exactly know-o I don't exactly know-o-o-o-o-o-o-o
And all me fancy fell upon Nancy And I'll sing tally-ho
And all me fancy fell upon Nancy And I'll sing tally-ho


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cheerful horn?
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 05 Sep 03 - 09:53 AM

Thanks, Alan. Excellent.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cheerful horn?
From: masato sakurai
Date: 05 Sep 03 - 09:53 AM

Also from
folktrax
:
WHEN BUCKS A-HUNTING GO - "How sweet is the horn" "All my fancy dwells upon Nancy" - Foxhunting Song - ROUD#217 - Many BSs - KIDSON TT 1891 pp143-5 Thomas Hewson, Roundhay, Leeds, Yorks (notes)/ Chapbook: "The Royal Sportsman's Delight" (w/o) - KIDSON NC 1927 - BROADWOOD ECS 1893 pp168-9 Arthur Thompson, Somerset 1858 "The Cheerful Arn" ("he blows in the morn") - BARING GOULD GCS 1895 pp108-9 - BARING GOULD-SHARP Schools 1906 p72 - SHARP- KARPELES CSC 1974 #269 Robert Pope, Minehead 1906 & Wm Stokes, Chew Magna, Sonmerset 1909 "The Cheerful Arn" ("O the stag went over the hedge") - WILLIAMS FSUT 1923 pp48-9 #399 Elijah Iles, Inglesham, Wiltsh 3v (w/o) "How sweet is the horn" -- STAVERTON BRIDGE (Group) rec by PK, Foxhole School, Dartington, Devon 3/7/70 7"RTR#0141 - Roger of NOTTS ALLIANCE: TRADITIONAL SOUND TSR-011 1972/B>


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cheerful horn?
From: masato sakurai
Date: 05 Sep 03 - 10:01 AM

A related version is posted at the thread: Lyr Req: fox jumped over the parson's gate.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cheerful horn?
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 05 Sep 03 - 10:11 AM

and at folkinfo


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cheerful horn?
From: Forsh
Date: 05 Sep 03 - 12:25 PM

Thanx to Alan Grace: That's the one I half recall! thanks to all others for info.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cheerful horn?
From: RoyH (Burl)
Date: 05 Sep 03 - 12:42 PM

Alan, slight mistake there. It was Roger Grimes, not Ged. It was on the original Notts Alliance album 'The Cheerful 'Orn' on Traditional Sound Records TSR 011. Singers were Roger Grimes, Laurence Platt, Ian Stewart, and Roy Harris, with Carol gardiner (fiddle) as guest artist. Notts Alliance were the house band for the Nottingham Traditional Music Club, very famous in it's day. They had no official name so had to find one when called on to record. The name chosen was the name of a local footbal league. The rights for the album are now held by Fellside. Burl


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cheerful horn?
From: GUEST,Alan Grace
Date: 06 Sep 03 - 05:27 AM

Thanks Burl, it's all a very long time ago so I hope you can forgive the blurring of the grey cells. I was with the Leicester Traditional muisic club at the time which was very much moddled on the one in Nottingham. Both clubs had a lot of very good singers and the frequent club exchanges were great. Ah! the good old days.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cheerful horn?
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 06 Sep 03 - 08:56 AM

This is one of those songs that got sung a lot about 30 years ago, before hunting became non-PC, but which is now rarely heard. I think I remember Tony Rose singing it....

Apologies for thread drift, but Notts Alliance is still going, currently consisting of Sid Long (who lives in Leicestershire!), Phil Hardcastle, Stephen Bailey and Chris Orme. According to the album notes for their latest CD ("Nothing spoken" after a song written by Leicester's Pete Morton) their renditions of "Moreton Bay" and "Here's adieu to all judges and juries" have been recorded for the Galleries of Justice in Nottingham.

I shall be in Loughborough for work, next Wednesday evening and Thursday, but (having seen Pete Burnham's Leicestershire folk diary) don't expect to be able to get to a folk club.

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cheerful horn?
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 06 Sep 03 - 03:34 PM

I'm not familiar with the tune, but the words bear a vague resemblance to The Innocent Hare by the Copper Family.

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cheerful horn?
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 06 Sep 03 - 03:59 PM

Mark

This is a very English thread reminiscing over 30+ years.... The Young Tradition were singing the Copper family songs in the mid-late 1960s, when the original Notts Alliance were singing, and I reckon they will all (including the Coppers) have heard each other sing both songs. (At the National Festival, which Roy Harris used to run, if not elsewhere.) You could, at a pinch, sing the Innocent Hare to the tune of "When Bucks a Hunting go" and vice versa! It would be great if you could make it over from Hawaii to next year's National at Sutton Bonington, the last weekend in March.

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cheerful horn?
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 06 Sep 03 - 04:25 PM

"Notts Alliance" seem to have recorded an arrangement of the set printed in Lucy Broadwood and J Fuller Maitland's English County Songs (1893, pp. 168-9), where it is called The Cheerful Ârn. It was "noted down in a village ale-house [in Somerset], 1858, by Arthur Thompson, architect". Thompson made a determined effort to convey the strong regional pronounciation (hence the title) but for obvious reasons Notts Alliance didn't attempt to sing it that way. Allowing for that, the words are much the same, though the unknown singer(s) heard by Thompson sang "cup" rather than "jug".

Number 217 in the Roud Folk Song Index. There are a number of broadside editions at  Bodleian Library Broadside Ballads.  These are also indicated in the other thread referred to above.

When bucks a hunting go

No relation to The Innocent Hare.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cheerful horn?
From: Folkiedave
Date: 06 Sep 03 - 04:32 PM

And, in passing, the Stephen Bailey in the group is "known" as the "other" Professor Bailey along with Roy Bailey. Stephen is Vice Chancellor (or similar) of Nottingham University.

Dave
www.collectorsfolk.co.uk


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