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Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic

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TEDDY BEARS PICNIC
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Subject: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: Iak
Date: 06 Sep 03 - 07:37 PM

Looking for the lyrics to a song which parodied the Teddy Bears' Picnic, back in the 1950s or 1960s. I think it started 'If you go down to the woods today/You'd better go in disguise/With stovepipe trews and fancy shoes/And something intense in ties.' What's the rest of it?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: Pene Azul
Date: 06 Sep 03 - 07:47 PM

Check out the links above. I don't think we have complete lyrics, but it's a start.

Jeff


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: Leadfingers
Date: 06 Sep 03 - 07:57 PM

It was always only a fragment Except for Pee Wee Hunts rewrite,which is not the one you are asking about


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: Leadfingers
Date: 07 Sep 03 - 07:00 PM

And I posted in one of the threads as well.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: GUEST,humbug
Date: 08 Sep 03 - 09:00 AM

This is a memory from a Boy Scout gang show I was involved in in the early '60s. I think its about right, hope it's the one your after.


If you go down to the park today,you better go in disguise,
If you go down to the park today, you're in for a big surprise,
For every Ted that ever there was, will gather today for certain because.
Today's the day the Teddy Boys have their picnic.

Waistcoats made of gay broccade, our suits are tailor made.
We love a bit of flattery.
See us formed up on parade, prepaired to do assault and battery.
Rozzers chase us when they can, they ran us in for working over one old man.
The Beak was kind of sympathetic and fined us half a crown.
Because were nice little Teddy Boys ( Here comes a copper!! )
Were nice little Teddy Boys.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: GUEST,www.corroon-portraits.com
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 12:49 PM

dont bother to wash its shoor to rain /just bring your cosh and your bicyle chane /todays the day the tedy boys have there picnic


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: GUEST,www.corroon-portraits.com
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 01:42 PM

with further thought this was on bbc early 50s


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: GUEST,AR282
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 10:52 PM

No mention of beetle-crushers or drainpipe trousers in the lyrics?

And they generally call their waistcoats "drapes" short for drapecoat which isn't cut in at the waist--a boxcoat, I guess. The pockets, usually 3 or 4, are always lined with velvet as are the cuffs and collar. The drape's lining is often done up like the Confederate rebel flag of the American civil war but the Brits don't associate it with the Southern cause since they're workingclass Brits who could give a shit. They wear it because it symbolizes rebellion and rocknroll.

A tie is worn but are often string ties of the type worn in the American west. Sometimes a cowboy-type stetson is worn with it. The hat is optional because most Teds are proud of their quiffs--their greased hair piled high and combed back--and like to show them off.

Teddy comes from King Edward VII who was affectionately called Teddy by the British media. The fashion worn by Teddy Boys was popular in Edward's day (he was Elizabeth I's son and reigned from 1901-1910). So it is aften called Edwardian fashion. It was actually made popular by gay men during in WW2 where it functioned very much like the zoot suits did in America. In fact, the Teddy clothes ARE zoot suits.

The Beatles were Teddys but wore leather. Many Teds actually wear leather and are indistinguishable from greasers. Some Teds wear the Edwardian clothes for hanging out or hitting the clubs but switched to leather for brawling or for also hitting the clubs.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: Charmion
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 09:14 AM

I saw it in a Pick of Punch from the mid- to late 50s:

If you go down to the park today, you'd better go in disguise,
In drainpipe trews and fancy shoes and something intense in ties.
Don't bother to wash -- it's sure to rain;
Remember your cosh and bicycle chain;
Today's the day the Teddy boys have their picnic.

It's amazing what you could learn from contents of the bottom shelf of your Granny's drawing-room bookcase.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: MMario
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 09:25 AM

Teddy comes from King Edward VII who was affectionately called Teddy by the British media. The fashion worn by Teddy Boys was popular in Edward's day (he was Elizabeth I's son and reigned from 1901-1910)

Elizabeth I had no children - and died in 1603 - so it would have been extremely difficult for her to have a son reign from 1901-1910


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: Flash Company
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 10:56 AM

First person I heard do this was Bob Monkhouse on BBC Radio as someone above saye 'in the 50's'

FC


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: Mo the caller
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 01:16 PM

Victoria perhaps, who the plums are named after
"Send her Victorias
These plums are glorious"


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: Scotus
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 05:23 PM

"Elizabeth I had no children - and died in 1603"

There's also the whole business of Elizabeth first or second depending on whether you're in Scotland or England, of course!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: GUEST,AR282
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 05:31 PM

>>Elizabeth I had no children - and died in 1603 - so it would have been extremely difficult for her to have a son reign from 1901-1910<<

HAHAHA!!! What the hell was I thinking???? I meant Queen Victoria. Many many apologies!! Jesus, what was I high on crank or something?? LOL!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: GUEST,AR282
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 05:57 PM

>>In drainpipe trews and fancy shoes and something intense in ties.<<

Drainpipes are called that because that's kind of what they look like.

The fancy shoes are called beetle crushers are generally made of bright-colored suede or something on the top with laces or straps but the soles and heels are always crepe rubber.

>>Don't bother to wash -- it's sure to rain;
Remember your cosh and bicycle chain;
Today's the day the Teddy boys have their picnic.<<

They were called Cosh Boys initially in the early 50s. A cosh is a kind of baton or club. I guess that's where "A Clockwork Orange" took its imagery from. They were quite violent but as the Teddy movement grew, it mellowed a little more. It still exists and they still dress the same and generally will only listen to 50s rocknroll, maybe some Beatles. It would appear that Teds and punks do not get along. A Ted had told me how much he and his mates hated punks and took great delight in pummeling them. It made me think of that one Emerson, Lake & Palmer song, "Bennie the Bouncer," where a big Ted named Bennie squares off against a punker with a blade named Savage Sid and Greg Lake sings it in this raucous cockney accent.

Teddy girls dress in Toreador-style jeans or circle skirts. 50s chicks. I suppose some might even wear poodles on them although that might have been purely American. There's also a middle ground--punkabilly. In fact, these punk-teddy hybrid bands are often excellent--really really cool stuff!! But the English teddy bands today put out some really hard-hitting face-shredding rockabilly. There's even a racist, xenophobic branch of teds.

But from what I saw, Teddyism is distinctly British. I don't think you can really be a ted unless you are British.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: Folkiedave
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 06:41 PM

There is a film called Zoot Suit Riots which says on its website:

Initially an African American youth fashion, closely connected to jazz culture, the zoot suit was co-opted by a generation of Mexican American kids, who made it their own.

The oversized suit was both an outrageous style and a statement of defiance. Zoot suiters asserted themselves, at a time when fabric was being rationed for the war effort, and in the face of widespread discrimination.

Zoot suits were reserved for special occasions -- a dance or a birthday party. The amount of material and tailoring required made them luxury items. Many kids wore a toned-down version of the "draped" pants or styled their hair in the signature "ducktail.",/i>

Loads on Google...

Dave


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: GUEST,tonyswww
Date: 21 Oct 09 - 08:41 AM

Try this!

tonyswww Teddy Boys Picnic!...Youtube.com


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: The Villan
Date: 21 Oct 09 - 08:57 AM

Ah those were the days.

I wish I had photo's of me when I wore a Teddy Boy Suit with Bootlace Ties and a pair of Brothel Creepers


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jan 10 - 10:10 AM

if you go down to the woods to day you better go in disguise, if you go down to the woods today your sure of a big surprise, mom and dad are having a shag and uncle frank is having a wank and aunty flo is having a go with grandad


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: GUEST,jimbob
Date: 28 Apr 11 - 07:20 PM

If you go down in the woods today, you'd better go in disguise,
In drainpipe trousers, fingertip coats, and don't forget your knives,
Don't bother to wash, cos it mighthe da rain,
And don't forget your bicycle chain,
Today's the day the Teddy boys have their picnic.

That's the version I heard, as a 1970s Ted in Oldham, Lancashire, England.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: GUEST,John Davison
Date: 27 May 14 - 01:24 PM

Radio Sutch played this song today, whilst celebrating the station's 50th Birthday. www.radiosutch.net


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: Musket
Date: 28 May 14 - 10:45 AM

....... You'd better go in disguise,
For Jeremy the Sugar Puffs bear,
Has bought some boots and cropped his hair,
Now every tosser knows that he's a skin.       Head.

I come from the next generation...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Teddy Boys' Picnic
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 29 May 14 - 06:48 AM

Musket:
more a parody of an advert than of the original.
Sugar Puffs used the tune for one of their tv ads in the 60s(?)

. . . for Jeremy the Sugar Puffs bear
who loves his honey has left some there
to bring his friends, and have a Sugar Puffs picnic. (from memory)

Cheers
Nigel (currently lounging in the sun in Mallorca)


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