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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Fishpicker Date: 14 Jul 04 - 03:38 PM First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me. Pastor Martin Niemöller This is more timely today than ever before, just fill in the examples with contemporary ones. FP |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Bobert Date: 14 Jul 04 - 05:34 PM And will ya look at the ignoramouses waitin' in line to sign up for their brown shirts?!!!?... Dumbed down so called Christains who wouldn't know Jesus if He walked up to them across the water.... Being led by a heathenous group of thugs, liars, crooks and cheats. Hmmmmm. Guest is right. It is time to start buying guns so when they do come for the progressives and moderates at least it won't be cake walk... And sho nuff... they are coming... don't take a weatherman to tell which way the wind blows... Non-violent Bobert (but will defend myself and my family...) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Fishpicker Date: 14 Jul 04 - 07:32 PM Fighting for freedom are we? I wonder why our freedom is being systematically taken away from us if that is the case. The real *terror* is being slowly and surely ushered into a martial law police state with no protection from the high handed government neo-con overlords. This is one time I'm glad to be an old man! I truly am worried for what kind of future my kids will have in this country. FP |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Don Firth Date: 14 Jul 04 - 08:36 PM And Tom DeLay proudly proclaims himself to be a "Born Again Christian." Sheesh!! Maybe that should be "convenience 'Christian.'" Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Bobert Date: 14 Jul 04 - 11:27 PM Where's Tom DeLay's mama? He may think he's born again but his de*mean*or and actions show that he needs to be stuffed back in. He ain't half ready to be born again... ((((((((((((((((((((Judge thee not, Bobert!))))))))))))))))))))) Nevermind, ol' Tom's got somethin' serious comin' down the road... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 16 Jul 04 - 01:33 PM This New York Times editorial apologizes for not having had more sense about the fraudulent claims concerning WMD and the drum-beating in favor of war which it did not do enough to analyze. If a newspaper can take responsibility for its follies, surely a President should be able to. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 16 Jul 04 - 05:26 PM Whoopi Goldberg has defended her choice to attack US president George W Bush which led to her being dropped as a spokeswoman for diet aid company Slim-Fast. Bosses at Slim-Fast dropped the star from their ad campaign, after admitting they were disappointed in her remarks at last Thursday's star-studded fundraiser for presidential hopeful John Kerry at Radio City Music Hall in New York. Goldberg caused offence at the event, when, according to the New York Post she "fired off a stream of vulgar sexual wordplays on Bush's name in a riff about female genitalia". An unrepentant Goldberg hit back in a written statement. "Just because I'm no longer in those (commercial) spots, it doesn't mean I will stop talking. "While I can appreciate what the Slim-Fast people need to do in order to protect their business, I must also do what I need to do as an artist, as a writer and as an American - not to mention as a comic." "I only wish that the Republican re-election committee would spend as much time working on the economy as they seem to be spending trying to harm my pocketbook." Get it said, you San Diego gal, you!! Get it SAAIIIID!!! Yeehaw. Go, Whoopi. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Don Firth Date: 16 Jul 04 - 07:20 PM Guinan is centuries old and very wise. When those who cruise the gaxaly find themselves in a state of bewilderment, a few moments in 10-Forward chatting with Guinan usually puts them back on course. Make it so. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Don Firth Date: 16 Jul 04 - 08:08 PM Man, do I have a dislexic keyboard! That should be "galaxy"! (Maybe I'd better head for 10-Forward and have a snort of synthahol and a long chat with the bartender.) Don (Sheesh!) Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 17 Jul 04 - 11:11 AM The details on the snookering of law by the Republicans who used technical procedural manuvers to prevent the rollback of the Patriot Act are covered on this web page. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 17 Jul 04 - 11:13 AM NEW YORK - Cartoonist Garry Trudeau, who has skewered politicians for decades in his comic strip "Doonesbury," tells Rolling Stone magazine he remembers Yale classmate George W. Bush as "just another sarcastic preppy who gave people nicknames and arranged for keg deliveries." Trudeau attended Yale University with Bush in the late 1960s and served with him on a dormitory social committee. "Even then he had clearly awesome social skills," Trudeau said. "He could also make you feel extremely uncomfortable ... He was extremely skilled at controlling people and outcomes in that way. Little bits of perfectly placed humiliation." Trudeau said he penned his very first cartoon to illustrate an article in the Yale Daily News on Bush and allegations that his fraternity, DKE, had hazed incoming pledges by branding them with an iron. The article in the campus paper prompted The New York Times to interview Bush, who was a senior that year. Trudeau recalled that Bush told the Times "it was just a coat hanger, and ... it didn't hurt any more than a cigarette burn." "It does put one in mind of what his views on torture might be today," Trudeau said. Having mocked presidents of both parties in the "Doonesbury" strip since 1971, Trudeau said Bush has been, "tragically, the best target" he's worked with yet. "Bush has created more harm to this country's standing and security than any president in history," Trudeau said. "What a shame the world has to suffer the consequences of Dubya not getting enough approval from Dad." Rolling Stone was publishing the interview Friday. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 19 Jul 04 - 03:40 PM Washington Post editorial stresses the need for accountability for the deaths of hundreds in Iraq, inter alia. "The toll on America is all the more galling because of how the country went to war. We now know we were told a great many things that turned out to be untrue. Bush administration officials, relying on unfounded, distorted and exaggerated intelligence concerning weapons threats, took the country down a path that has led to a catastrophic waste of human lives as well as billions of dollars. Let's consider just a few of the things that were conveyed as the gospel truth: • "The Iraq regime is a threat of unique urgency. . . . [I]t has developed weapons of mass destruction." President Bush, Oct. 2, 2002. • "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." Vice President Cheney, Aug. 26, 2002. • "We said they had a nuclear program. That was never any debate." Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, July 13, 2003. ... Martha Stewart was convicted for, among several offenses, lying to the government. What's the penalty when the government misleads the people?" Regards, A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 20 Jul 04 - 09:31 PM A popular downtown bar installed a robotic bartender. One evening shortly after, a fellow came into the bar for a drink and the robot asked him, "What's your IQ?" The guy replied, "150." The robot proceeded to make conversation about quantum physics, string theory, atomic chemistry, and other esoteric topics. The fellow listened intently and thought, "Hey, this is great!" He decided to test the robot, so he walked out of the bar, turned around, and came back in. Again, the robot asked him, "What's your IQ?" He responded, "100," and the robot held forth on about football, baseball, and a variety of other sports. Again, the customer thought, "Wow, this is really cool!" He went out and came into the bar for a third time. As before, the robot asked him, "What's your IQ?" This time he replied, "50." And the robot said, "So, you gonna vote for Bush again?" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 20 Jul 04 - 10:12 PM As to what the candidates actually represent: http://cdn.moveonpac.org/data/debate.mov A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Bobert Date: 20 Jul 04 - 11:09 PM You try that blue clicky thing, Amos???.... Don't want load fir me.... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 21 Jul 04 - 11:36 AM Try: http://cdn.moveonpac.org/data/debate.mov A |
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Subject: Rock Stars Say No More Bushwah From: Amos Date: 25 Jul 04 - 01:24 AM Opinion-leaders in the rock-star constellation are joining forces to speak out with music against Bush in 2004 according to this article in the LA Times. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 26 Jul 04 - 05:49 PM Saddam's People Are Winning the War By Scott Ritter International Herald Tribune http://www.iht.com/articles/530608.html Thursday 22 July 2004 Misunderstanding Iraq Mister Ritter makes some telling points about the failure of the Bush administration among others to understand the real dynamics of the Iraq situation. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 26 Jul 04 - 10:24 PM FEEL-GOOD SPEAK Cheney this BY CONGRESSMAN BARNEY FRANK, FOURTH DISTRICT, MASSACHUSETTS With increasing pressure on the FCC to step up its role as censor, finding language that appropriately communicates the depths of one's feeling (especially when speaking on the record or within earshot of the press) while remaining within the bounds of propriety has become difficult. As a public-spirited move, I am recommending to my fellow elected officials - and to others engaged in public controversies - a semantic solution to this dilemma: use the word "Cheney" where discretion is required in the expression of frustration, anger, or extreme derision. Here are some examples of how this would work. * Go Cheney yourself. * How the Cheney would I know? * Cheney you. * I don't give a flying Cheney. * Who the Cheney do you think you are? In some cases, substitution of Cheney for its synonym would be particularly appropriate. For example: * George Bush sure has Cheneyed up the situation in Iraq. * The Bush administration's position is that it is none of our Cheneying business who helped formulate its pro-oil energy policy. * In some cases, Halliburton seems to be Cheneying the American taxpayer. Vice-President Cheney himself said after using the blunter word that it made him feel better. It makes me feel better to suggest a way of expressing the same sentiments while paying appropriate tribute to the vice-president's role in our society. (Recvd via email -- source not verified. A.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 27 Jul 04 - 11:15 PM An Excuse-Spouting Bush Is Busted July 27, 2004 Robert Scheer Busted! Like a teenager whose beer bash is interrupted by his parents' early return home, President Bush's nearly three years of bragging about his "war on terror" credentials has been exposed by the bipartisan 9/11 commission as nothing more than empty posturing. http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-scheer27jul27,1,7719764.column?coll=la-home-utilities |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: GUEST Date: 27 Jul 04 - 11:44 PM Why don't we just rename this thread 'Amos's View of the Bush Administration'? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 28 Jul 04 - 12:05 AM Because all of the reports in this thread are taken from amongst the population at large, not me. I do choose ones that I agree with. I can count on Bush' s Juggernaut machinery to take care of itself in a Fair and Balanced way. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: GUEST,Clint Keller Date: 28 Jul 04 - 02:32 AM it's ok, GUEST, if you want to stick in a view that you agree with. Honest. clint |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Deda Date: 31 Jul 04 - 02:47 PM Amos, as everyone knows, is a very articulate and intelligent guy. If he wanted to maintain a thread about his own political judgments, he could do that. This thread is a service AFAIC, disseminating material from the general press that I would otherwise have missed. Thanks, bro! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 31 Jul 04 - 03:08 PM Aw shucks...thanks, Deda! A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 31 Jul 04 - 03:35 PM An interesting example of Republican misappropriation of public spaces (school auditoriums) paid for by common taxes. Tsk, tsk. Arrogance cometh before a fall... A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 31 Jul 04 - 04:50 PM Teresa Hampton, writing for the "Capitol Hill Blue" Website, raises the possibility that Bush is on psychopharmaceuticals big time in this article. How depressed is he? "One long-time GOP political consultant who - for obvious reasons -asked not to be identified said he is advising his Republican Congressional candidates to keep their distance from Bush. "We have to face the very real possibility that the President of the United States is loony tunes," he says sadly. "That's not good for my candidates, it's not good for the party and it's certainly not good for the country."" A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 01 Aug 04 - 12:54 AM Ron Reagan's son, writing in Esquire Magazine summarizes the case against Mister Bush and the barbarism he has sponsored. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 02 Aug 04 - 07:42 PM Al Sharpton responds to Mister Bush's questions with vigor at the Democratic national Convention. Thanks, Al. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 02 Aug 04 - 07:51 PM John Perry Barlow proposes a civil insurgency -- dancing in the streets as an act of civil protestation! Ya gotta love this guy. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 04 Aug 04 - 09:53 AM Eric Umanski of Slate magazine describing the Wall Street Journal of August 4, 2004: "The Journal goes high with word the Kerry campaign's impending release of endorsements from 200 big businessmen. Many of them supported President Bush in 2000. "George is a really good guy personally," said one. "He had an opportunity to bring the country together--which was his MO in Texas. But for reasons only his psychiatrist would know, he's chosen to do just the opposite as president. He's turning out to be the worst president since Millard Fillmore--and that's probably an insult to Millard Fillmore."" (Emphasis added). A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 04 Aug 04 - 12:59 PM Dr Howard Dean, addressing the charges against Tom Delay for rigging undue influence machinery in the sacrosanct halls of governmnet: "Representative Tom DeLay of Texas needs to be stopped. He is at the center of machine that launders corporate influence in our political process. And now his machine is at the center of investigations by a grand jury in Texas and the House Ethics Committee in Washington into ethics violations and criminal activity. But the DeLay racket reaches even into the Ethics Committee itself. We must act now to make sure the job gets done right. The House Ethics Committee must appoint an outside counsel to lead the investigation. Add your name to the call for accountability: http://www.democracyforamerica.com/stoptomdelay Four of the five Republicans on the House Ethics Committee, which will review the charges against DeLay next month, have received over $35,000 from an arm of the DeLay operation. They are in no position to conduct an independent investigation. The examination of Tom DeLay's political money machine should be free from the influence of that machine. That can only happen with an independent, outside counsel leading the probe. We will deliver your petition to the House Ethics Committee. And we will take your messages to Texas to give DeLay's constituents your thoughts about the man they will have the chance to vote out of office in November. Sign the petition now: http://www.democracyforamerica.com/stoptomdelay The charges against DeLay filed in the Ethics Committee include trading favors for contributions, laundering illegal corporate contributions to influence Texas legislative races, and improperly directing the Department of Homeland Security to conduct a political witch hunt against Texas Democrats. Tom DeLay has done more than any other person to construct a system where our representatives sell the privilege of writing legislation to the highest bidder. His contempt for his opponents and win-at-all-costs approach pollute our political life -- and may have broken the law. Join the call for a proper investigation of Tom DeLay: http://www.democracyforamerica.com/stoptomdelay Please forward this message to your friends and spread the word -- we are tired of business as usual and we demand a real investigation into the man who has been called the "chief enforcer of company contributions to Republicans." Thank you. Governor Howard Dean, M.D. P.S. - Be sure to attend the DFA Meetup tonight at 7 PM in your community: http://dfa.meetup.com |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 04 Aug 04 - 11:13 PM The New York Times reviews an off-Broadway Bush-bashing dramatic piece of merit. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 05 Aug 04 - 03:15 PM WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush told a roomful of top Pentagon brass on Thursday that his administration would never stop looking for ways to harm the United States. The latest installment of misspeak from a president long known for his malapropisms came during a signing ceremony for a new $417 billion defense appropriations bill that includes $25 billion in emergency funding for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we," Bush said. The Republican incumbent, who is in a tight race for reelection against Democrat John Kerry, a decorated Vietnam veteran, used the 11-minute presentation to underscore his commitment to U.S. troops. |
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Subject: Dildos and the Constitution From: Amos Date: 07 Aug 04 - 01:49 PM How deeply involved does the Federal Government need to be in individual lives and personal decisions? Here's one article chastising excessive intrusive reach by the guvvy sector into civvy street. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 09 Aug 04 - 07:06 PM An excerpt from a Mother Jones article excoriating the Bush administration ofr manufacturing false intell on Iraq intentionally: "Kwiatkowski, 43, a now-retired Air Force officer who served in the Pentagon's Near East and South Asia (NESA) unit in the year before the invasion of Iraq, observed how the Pentagon's Iraq war-planning unit manufactured scare stories about Iraq's weapons and ties to terrorists. "It wasn't intelligence-it was propaganda," she says. "They'd take a little bit of intelligence, cherry-pick it, make it sound much more exciting, usually by taking it out of context, often by juxtaposition of two pieces of information that don't belong together." It was by turning such bogus intelligence into talking points for U.S. officials-including ominous lines in speeches by President Bush and Vice President Cheney, along with Secretary of State Colin Powell's testimony at the U.N. Security Council last February-that the administration pushed American public opinion into supporting an unnecessary war. Until now, the story of how the Bush administration produced its wildly exaggerated estimates of the threat posed by Iraq has never been revealed in full. But, for the first time, a detailed investigation by Mother Jones, based on dozens of interviews-some on the record, some with officials who insisted on anonymity-exposes the workings of a secret Pentagon intelligence unit and of the Defense Department's war-planning task force, the Office of Special Plans. It's the story of a close-knit team of ideologues who spent a decade or more hammering out plans for an attack on Iraq and who used the events of September 11, 2001, to set it into motion. SIX MONTHS AFTER THE END of major combat in Iraq, the United States had spent $300 million trying to find banned weapons in Iraq, and President Bush was seeking $600 million more to extend the search. Not found were Iraq's Scuds and other long-range missiles, thousands of barrels and tons of anthrax and botulism stock, sarin and VX nerve agents, mustard gas, biological and chemical munitions, mobile labs for producing biological weapons, and any and all evidence of a reconstituted nuclear-arms program, all of which had been repeatedly cited as justification for the war. Also missing was evidence of Iraqi collaboration with Al Qaeda. The reports, virtually all false, of Iraqi weapons and terrorism ties emanated from an apparatus that began to gestate almost as soon as the Bush administration took power. In the very first meeting of the Bush national-security team, one day after President Bush took the oath of office in January 2001, the issue of invading Iraq was raised, according to one of the participants in the meeting-and officials all the way down the line started to get the message, long before 9/11. Indeed, the Bush team at the Pentagon hadn't even been formally installed before Paul Wolfowitz, the deputy secretary of Defense, and Douglas J. Feith, undersecretary of Defense for policy, began putting together what would become the vanguard for regime change in Iraq." Rest of article can be found in the February 04 edition of Mother Jones: The Lie Factory Regards, A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 10 Aug 04 - 12:10 AM MoveOn PAC asked their members who voted for Bush in 2000 to talk about why they are voting for Kerry in 2004. Academy award-winning documentary film director Errol Morris interviewed these former Bush voters on camera, and cut seventeen ads that tell their stories. These stories of disaffection are powerful statements about the failed Bush presidency. http://www.moveonpac.org/morris/ Go to the link above to vote on the ads you like the best. The highest-rated ads will be aired during the Republican convention |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Jim Dixon Date: 10 Aug 04 - 04:12 PM This irony was pointed out by Maureen Dowd, a columnist for the New York Times, when she was being interviewed on The Al Franken Show: (She has a new book out: "Bushworld: Enter at Your Own Risk") Bush #1 went to war to prove that you can't unilaterally invade another country. Bush #2 went to war to prove that you CAN unilaterally invade another country. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 12 Aug 04 - 07:55 PM Washington Post, August 12, 2004 Of course it would never happen like this, but it should: President Bush and political guru Karl Rove are enjoying a quiet evening together in the private quarters of the White House. Suddenly, Rove looks up in horror from his computer printouts and asks: "George . . . where are the kids?" Where, indeed. And we're not talking about Jenna Bush or her sister Barbara, but millions of other younger voters who supported Bush in 2000 but currently plan to vote for Democratic nominee John Kerry. Surveys suggest that Bush's popularity has plummeted among 18- to 29-year-olds in the past four months, posing a new obstacle to the president's bid to win reelection and an immediate challenge to Republicans seeking to win over impressionable and lightly committed young people during their upcoming convention. Four years ago, network exit polls found that Bush and Democrat Al Gore split the vote of 18- to 29-year-olds, with Gore claiming 48 percent and Bush getting 46 percent -- the best showing by a Republican presidential candidate in more than a decade. But that was then. In the latest Post-ABC News poll taken immediately after the Democratic convention, Kerry led Bush 2-1 among registered voters younger than 30. Among older voters, the race was virtually tied. Bush's problems with younger voters began months before the Democratic convention, Post-ABC polls suggest. The last time Bush and Kerry were tied among the under-30 crowd was back in April. In the five surveys conducted since then, Bush has trailed Kerry by an average of 18 percentage points. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 15 Aug 04 - 09:56 PM WASHINGTON, D.C. (August 1, 2004) Praised by the members of the House Select Committee on Intelligence, Newt Gingrich's testimony yesterday was serious, thought-provoking, and entertaining. Newt Gingrich, former Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, testified yesterday before the House Select Intelligence Committee, and blew away representatives of both political parties with his radical proposals for what to do about our systems of intelligence. Here's the video of that session (be sure to watch the Q&A that follows the testimony). See the rest of this interesting article about radical restructuring of our Intel community on this page. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 16 Aug 04 - 10:21 PM Another stunning victory for secrecy and Ashcroft's New World: On the 16th of August 2004, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals begins work on the Gilmore vs. Ashcroft case. At stake is nothing less than the right of Americans to travel freely in their own country -- and the exposure of 'secret law' for what it is: an abomination. The man who is fighting the good fight is named John Gilmore. John made his fortune as a programmer and entrepreneur in the software industry. Whereas most people in his position would have moved to a tropical island and lived a life of luxury, John chose to use his wealth to protect and defend the US Constitution. On the 4th of July 2002, John Gilmore, American citizen, decided to take a trip from one part of the United States of America to another. At the airport, he was told he had to produce his ID if he wanted to travel. He asked to see the law demanding he show his 'papers' and was told after a time that the law was secret and no, he wouldn't be allowed to read it. He hasn't flown in has own country since. http://www.gilmorevsashcroft.com |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 17 Aug 04 - 11:36 PM President Bush has unveiled his first campaign commercial, highlighting all of his accomplishments in office. That's why it's a 60-second spot." -- Jay Leno "President Bush says he has just one question for the American voters,'Is the rich person you're working for better off now than they were four years ago?'" -- Jay Leno "The election is in full-swing. Republicans have taken out round-the-clock ads promoting George Bush. Don't we already have that? It's called Fox News." -- Craig Kilborn "Kerry is well on his way to reaching his magic number of 2,162. That's the total number of delegates he needs to win the Democratic nomination. See for President Bush it's different, his magic number is 5. That's the number of Supreme Court judges needed to win." -- Jay Leno "There was a scare inWashingtonwhen a man climbed over the White House wall and was arrested. This marks the first time a person has gotten into the White House unlawfully since President Bush." -- David Letterman "A new poll says that if ! the election were held today, John Kerry would beat President Bush by a double digit margin. The White House is so worried about this, they're now thinking of moving up the capture of Osama Bin Laden to next month." -- Jay Leno "The White House is now backtracking from its prediction that 2.6 million new jobs will be created in theU.S. this year. They say they were off by roughly 2.6 million jobs." -- Jay Leno "InLouisiana, President Bush met with over 15,000 National Guard troops. Here's the weird part: nobody remembers seeing him there." -- Craig Kilborn "President Bush said he was 'troubled' by gay people getting married in San Francisco. He said on important issues like this the people should make the decision, not judges. Unl! ess of course we're choosing a president. Then he prefers judges." -- Jay Leno "The White House has now released military documents that they say prove George Bush met his requirements for the National Guard. Big deal. We've got documents that prove Al Gore won the election." -- Jay Leno "There was an embarrassing moment in the White House earlier today. They were looking around while searching for George Bush's military records. They actually found some old Al Gore ballots." -- David Letterman "The big story now is that President Bush is coming under attack for his service in the National Guard. The commanding officers can't remember seeing Bush between May and October of '72. President Bush said, 'Remember me? I was the drunk guy!'" ! -- Jay Leno "On 'Meet the Press' yesterday President Bush was asked what he would do if he lost the election and Bush said, 'You mean like last time?''" -- Jay Leno "This week, both John Kerry and Wesley Clark are making campaign appearance with the guys who saved their lives inVietnam. Meanwhile President Bush is campaigning with a guy that once took a math test for him." -- Conan O'Brien "President Bush released his new $2.4 trillion federal budget. It has two parts: smoke and mirrors." -- Jay Leno "Bush admitted that his pre-war intelligence wasn't what it should have been. But we knew that when we elected him!" -- Jay Leno "As you know President Bush gave his State of the Union Address, interrupted 70 times by applause and 45 times by really big words." -- Jay Leno "President Bush said that American workers will need new skills to get the new jobs in the 21st century. Some of the skills they're going to need are Spanish, Chinese, Korean, because that's where the jobs went." -- Jay Leno The new Prime Minister ofSpainhas called the war inIraqa disaster, and plans to bring his troops home as soon as possible. In fact, President Bush is so upset atSpainthat he is now threatening to close down the border betweenSpainand theU.S. -- Jay Leno "The U.S. army confirmed that it gave a lucrative contract in Iraq to the firm once run by the Vice President Dick Cheney without any competitive bidding. When asked if this could be conceived as Cheney's friends profiting from the war, the spokesman said "Yes.'" -- Conan O'Brien "Dick Cheney finally responded today to demands that he reveal the details of the Enron meetings. This is what he said. He met with unnamed people, from unspecified companies, for an indeterminate amount of time at an undisclosed location. Thank God he cleared that up." -- Jay Leno "Plans are being discussed as to who will replace Dick Cheney if he has to resign for health reasons. It's not easy for President Bush, he can't just name a replacement. He would first have to be confirmed by the oil, gas and power companies" -- Jay Leno "President Bush spoke briefly to reporters before playing a round of golf in Crawford, Texas earlier today. ... This raises the question: Shouldn't the guy who is really running the country and who has had like 20 heart attacks be taking the vacation?" -- Craig Kilborn |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 19 Aug 04 - 09:03 PM Dahlia Lithwick -- a senior editor at Slate -- warns us against portraying Bush as a juvenile in this insightful piece in the NY Times. In doing so she manages to castigate his Administration for the right reasons en passant. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 25 Aug 04 - 02:42 PM The chances are good that the Florida Presidential votye this year will be totally without credibility and tainted with multiple angles of corruption. This article in Slate describes why. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: robomatic Date: 25 Aug 04 - 10:45 PM This thread is just so far into Bush hate that I think it is missing most of the important points that we need to pay attention to in the world of today, and yes, it harkens back to my point that if you want the world and the US to get better, you start with the leader you have. Getting rid of Saddam was a good thing. If Iraq can be stabilized, that will be a good thing. I think Tony Blair has vocalized very well the reasons for prosecuting the war. Bush may have many annoying characteristics. He is NOT a halfwit. I am aware of plenty of assertions that he and his administration lied. I am unaware of any proof. It's just like the Swift Boat veterans, a lot of accusation with no real tissue. Bush may have connections to the religious right in the United States. He is not the same creature as a religious mullah who sends minions to their deaths with the assurance that they will be rewarded with virgins in heaven. If you want to assert parity here we aren't on the same planet. This is not the Vietnam of a new decade. The strategic situation is different, the background is different, the weapons are different. Things that are genuinely dangerous to the United States: Not finishing what we start. Government money being spent with no income increasing national debt. Long term balance of trade against the U.S. Heavy military expenditures which are mostly waste, such as missile defense system even now being installed in Alaska. I agree with the observations above about flawed science policy. We experienced terrorism under Democratic watch, and it proved no more effective than under this administration. We have some real nuclear proliferationi problems with Pakistan, N. Korea, Iran. We NEED to solve these and we NEED to involve the world in solving it. I don't care who is leading the country, I want the problems addressed and a constant watch across party lines for this. So go to town all you like on this thread, if it makes ya happy. But it's just like listening to Rush's twin brother on the left side of the dial. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 25 Aug 04 - 10:58 PM Wel, Robo, you and I are a bit apart on a number of points. I think GWB IS a half-wit and a murderous one at that. He had all the opportunity in the world to define and resolve the very issues you are speaking of with the world's blessing. Many of us here raised alarums about how he proceeded after 9-11 to disspate and ruin that good-will. By not finishing what we start, what do you mean? Killing Iraqis in sufficient numbers? Additionally, there are a lot of very specific charges of falsification which you seem to be dodging -- not that I blame you. The simple fact in my view is that there are far too few people telling the truth about this jerk. As for my going to town, I don't write these articles -- I just post links to them. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: GUEST,Clint Keller Date: 26 Aug 04 - 08:58 PM "Getting rid of Saddam was a good thing." Was it good enough to be worth killing your kids? Or just good enough to be worth killing Iraqi kids? Please don't explain to me that kind of thing always happens in war; I know it does. That's why I don't like war as a solution to anything. But we finished what we started with Iraq. I saw the "Mission Accomplished" sign right behind our War President. That can't be a lie or Mr Bush wouldn't have participated in it. clint |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 31 Aug 04 - 07:53 PM Garrison Keillor reports his view of the Bsuh Administration in this telling piece called We're Not in Lake Wobegone Anymore, which I think is one of the funniest rebuttals of our current tragedy I have seen yet. Garrison concludes: "The Union is what needs defending this year. Government of Enron and by Halliburton and for the Southern Baptists is not the same as what Lincoln spoke of. This gang of Pithecanthropus Republicanii has humbugged us to death on terrorism and tax cuts for the comfy and school prayer and flag burning and claimed the right to know what books we read and to dump their sewage upstream from the town and clear-cut the forests and gut the IRS and mark up the constitution on behalf of intolerance and promote the corporate takeover of the public airwaves and to hell with anybody who opposes them. This is a great country, and it wasn't made so by angry people. We have a sacred duty to bequeath it to our grandchildren in better shape than however we found it. We have a long way to go and we're not getting any younger. Dante said that the hottest place in Hell is reserved for those who in time of crisis remain neutral, so I have spoken my piece, and thank you, dear reader. It's a beautiful world, rain or shine, and there is more to life than winning." Get the vote out. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 31 Aug 04 - 08:06 PM Charles Rangel, congressman from the 15th Congressional District of New York State, has introduced into Congress H.Res. 629 IH. "Resolved that Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense is impeached for High crimes and misdemeanors, and that the following articles of impeachment be exhibited to the Senate." There are nine articles listed in this bill, and the last sentence of the last article reads, "Wherefore, Donald M. Rumsfeld, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, removal from office, and disqualification for any further office of profit or trust under the United States." This bill is currently in the subcommittee on the Constitution (under the House Judiciary Committee), and may be read It is co-sponsored by: Rep Lee, Barbara [CA-9] - 7/21/2004 Rep Owens, Major R. [NY-11] - 7/9/2004 Rep Slaughter, Louise McIntosh [NY-28] - 7/9/2004 Rep Stark, Fortney Pete [CA-13] - 6/18/2004 A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views of the Bush Administration From: Amos Date: 01 Sep 04 - 05:20 PM A stunning description of the use of Secret Sevrice Agents to prevent members of the press from interviewing an author of unpopular material about Bush can be found on this page for Monday, August 30. Sorry times indeed. A |