Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II

Subject: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 10 Oct 03 - 05:26 AM

Roll up, roll up for the return to Portaferry, Co. Down, and the other event of 2004 (other than the Eurogathering in Hull9) - LOUGHSTOCK II!!

This fantastic event is to be held on Friday 30th January - Sunday 1st February (St. Brigid's Day).

I've put together a web page full of relevant information, and it can be found by clicking here!

Any other questions - just ask.
Check out some photos of the 2003 happenings, and read a thread about what went on last year.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Noreen
Date: 10 Oct 03 - 06:12 AM

Wonderful, Fib!

(praps you might want to remove the extraneous extra t from the fancy heading?)


:0)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: sian, west wales
Date: 10 Oct 03 - 06:38 AM

Fib Mattock Girl Detective is on the case again! Well done - you've avoided St Davids Day this time! I've written it in the diary - a lot depends on whether I'm 'in employment' at that stage ...

sian
(OK - so Asian Developing Nationas and Endangered Species links? The Whimsy of Google Ads is a continuing delight.)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 10 Oct 03 - 06:40 AM

Well spotted Noreen! that'll teach me to proofread...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 10 Oct 03 - 06:41 AM

Hiya Fib.,...

Fab to hear from you - will tell him in doors and see what he thinks...

Ella
x

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From:
Date: 10 Oct 03 - 06:41 AM

great site Fibs!!

I am looking forward to it already, just need to book the fights!!

See you there!!

Khatt

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 10 Oct 03 - 07:28 AM

Ok, catsphiddle, you can book a fight with me! But only if I get the choice of weapons ;-)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 10 Oct 03 - 07:41 AM

kazoos at dawn!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Noreen
Date: 10 Oct 03 - 07:42 AM

Shaky eggs or kazoos at dawn?

:0)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Noreen
Date: 10 Oct 03 - 07:43 AM

AAAArrrgh!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 10 Oct 03 - 10:40 AM

Ennio Morricone-style kazoo as the sun rises over Strangford Lough... it has to be done!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 10 Oct 03 - 10:58 AM

Noreen, will you act as my fugle(wo)man (or is "second" the better word?), please?

And I'd prefer dusk to dawn... ;-)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From:
Date: 10 Oct 03 - 11:01 AM

Buggar my spelling is crap OK!!! fights=flights!!! do you forgive me ??!!!

If you do great if you don't..well I will see you in Ireland anyway!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: GUEST,CraneDriverAtWork-ShouldBeDoinSomethingElse
Date: 10 Oct 03 - 11:48 AM

I take it this will be Lough, Stock and lots of barrels? Depends on the financial situation by then - my contract is coming to an end in the spring, unless funding is renewed, but I might be tempted.

Andrew(GoinBackToWorkNow)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: GUEST,moo at Juan Les Pins
Date: 10 Oct 03 - 04:13 PM

Great site Fibs...

We'll be there for sure

the moos on the Cote D,Azur
with dratty French keyboard

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 10 Oct 03 - 06:06 PM

Weren't that place immortilized in the first record I ever bought - 'Where do you go to, my luvverly'?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Noreen
Date: 10 Oct 03 - 07:05 PM

Delighted, Andy- I like the sound of being a fugleman- it's not dangerous is it??


Could be at dawn, but only after not going to bed the night before :0)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 09:53 AM

freshen

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Micca
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 10:27 AM

Mind you skip I dont think Mooman "talks like Marlene Dietrich..."

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Micca
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 10:28 AM

and I KNOW he doesnt dance like Zizi Jeanmaire....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 10:41 AM

Are his clothes all made by Madman?
Giok

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Noreen
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 12:55 PM

Ah... there are diamonds and pearls in his hair- yes there are!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 02:39 PM

That's just fancy dandruff Noreen dear.
Giok

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: mooman
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 03:29 PM

...and do you want to get inside my head?!!!

Nope, I don't wear Balmain...just army surplus and Doc Martens! Nope that's pure silver Giok!!!

Peace

moo (who for some reason has been singing that song all week...even made up a rude version!)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 12 Oct 03 - 05:44 PM

Look into my face my eclair? Never understood that line! Great site Fib, don't worry about spellings-all that guff is only for the pseudo intelligencia. I'ts the music wot matter's !

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 13 Oct 03 - 04:18 AM

Erc-Its "look into my face, and marry Clair"
PS, your right about the spellings, this is music site, not speliing site.john

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Jeanie
Date: 13 Oct 03 - 05:27 AM

Nobody's mentioned the "carefully designed topless swimsuit" yet.... though I suppose it might be a bit too chilly for that in January !

Sorry I won't be able to get there this year again either. Ah well..one day... I know you'll all have a great time.

- jeanie

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 13 Oct 03 - 09:06 AM

I like the cold weather effect, it makes me want to practice my braille skills.
Giok

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: alanww
Date: 13 Oct 03 - 11:17 AM

Brill! Just left message at Barholm to make a reservation and am now looking at flights ...
"Give me a boat that will carry two ...!"
Alan

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: alanww
Date: 13 Oct 03 - 12:46 PM

Have now the booked flights, Fib. I could not resist your selling tempting offer of a rematch. Let's hope Barholm comes up with goods in terms of a reservation for Sandy and me.
I have also splashed out on a car hire for this trip and am willing to give a lift to or from Belfast City Airport (ie the little one on the north-east of the city, not the international one to the west!) if anyone is on the same flight. Flying from Birmingham International on Thu 29 Jan on flight BE406 (dep 12.20 & arr 13.20) and on flight BE415 on Sun 1 Feb (dep 18.45 & arr 19.45).
See you all there!
"Farewell to Princes Landing Stage ...!"
Alan

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 15 Oct 03 - 02:33 PM

If Yorkshire/Humberside catters see that Jet2 is offering flights to Belfast International from Leeeds/Bradford. They are £9.00 each way at present, plus taxes. About £86.00 for 2 people, Easy Jet was £52.00 for 2 people a week ago.

Still waiting for Barholm to get in contact.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 16 Oct 03 - 04:51 PM

Is there any more news about the Hostel? Greg and I arrive Belfst Intnl about 20.55.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Micca
Date: 17 Oct 03 - 10:18 AM

Have had confirmation of accomodation booking from Barholm!!!! Alan Linda at Barholm seemed a bit concerned about you appearing to book Thursday night, she asked if it is a mistake!!! I think she will contact you herself, but an e-mail might help, esp if you want breakfast on Friday morning!!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 17 Oct 03 - 03:26 PM

Did I do that?-(slaps himself, cos there's nobody else around) I'd better check!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 17 Oct 03 - 03:38 PM

Thanks Micca.

Letty, Andy, I have sent a new mail to the hostel asking for a 4 bedded room, I will go ahead and book it if that's ok. Sort out payment later, or pay direct to Barholm-that might be easier. I'll post details.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 17 Oct 03 - 05:29 PM

Eric, I can pay you or Barholm, does not matter.

What matters is that it is quite expensive to send money from Germany to UK - so if it is possible to pay in Portaferry I'd be glad...

Btw., if Barholm wants real names, see PM.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Herma
Date: 18 Oct 03 - 08:53 AM

Hi Everyone,

Very tempted (with a little help from Eric....) to come over as well! Flight to Belfast from Amsterdam is easy, but after that??
Seen some buslines etc. on the mentioned website, but is anyone perhaps passing by Belfast Airport, or flying in any time during the 29th and willing to share some means of transportation? Haven't booked a flight yet, so maybe there's some way to compare (more)flying times or such?

Won't bring my topless swimsuit, sorry, no room for the antifreeze in my weekendbag!!!

Herma

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: InOBU
Date: 18 Oct 03 - 10:59 AM

Hiya Friends: I don't know if I can make in in 04, but I will be in Dublin on Dec 10, not sure the schdual, will try to get out to Kerry to see old pals around that time, so keep a watch on the post Mudcatters in or near Dublin, and maybe we can get together for a tune or three. Cheers Larry

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 18 Oct 03 - 03:19 PM

Herma, I have not booked flights so far as well - might be interested in sharing.

But I have not really decided - maybe I will arrive on Thursday in Dublin and take bus from there on Friday...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 19 Oct 03 - 02:57 PM

Larry, I'd have gone to Dublin specially, but I'll only just be back from Croatia, and it can't be done. Are you including a stopover in GB by any chance?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: InOBU
Date: 19 Oct 03 - 07:44 PM

Hi Fionn: Maybe doing! It may be cheeper to go to london and then take the holyhead ferry. I will let ya know. CHeers Larry

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: David Ingerson
Date: 20 Oct 03 - 07:29 PM

I am so jealous of all your plans. But maybe I will be able to come next year.

I spent five wonderful summers in Ireland in the mid-80's but then got married--traded Ireland for a fine wife and eventually 2 wonderful kids. But now,my 15 year old daughter has fallen in love with Ireland (after spending two weeks there in 2000--my first time back, and not nearly long enough) and wants to spend her junior year abroad in Ireland, if we can arrange it. (And we are willing to do it independently if we can't find an agency to do it through--anyone interested in taking (for the school year) a 15 year old Yank girl who rides horses--C3 in Pony Club--is a competitive rock climber, straight A student, polite, and also punk-dressing and very individualistic, and learning focail ansin agus focail anseo (sp?)???

At any rate, if (or rather when) she finds a placement there, I will surely visit--maybe at the end of January. I hope, I hope.

David

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 20 Oct 03 - 07:30 PM

Or go to London and get a Ryannair flight to Dublin? (Sorry for thread drift.)

Someone told me there were some splendid musicians from Bangor at Portaferry last year. Did they include Dianna Boullier by any chance, or Geordie McAdam?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: mooman
Date: 21 Oct 03 - 04:09 AM

Can't remember their names Fionn but there were an excellent husband and wife pair. Both excellent fiddlers and he a s**t hot tenor banjo player too.

I got roundly castigated at that session for playing the local "finishing tune" before the end (how was I to know as a simple London-raised, Belgian-based Sligoman?)! But it was a bodhran player that did the castigating so I didn't take it too personally!

Peace

moo

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 21 Oct 03 - 01:41 PM

Wasn't it wicked!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 22 Oct 03 - 04:52 AM

Fionn - spot on! It was indeed Dianna and Geordie (Nigel being the s**t hot tenor banjo player). Hopefully we'll see them again this year - I know Dianna drops into the Mudcat now and again.

David Ingerson - if your daughter is into rock climbing (the finest of sports!) then Donegal has a lot to offer, I believe (never climbed there meself though). However, I there's no bolted (sports) routes in Ireland - it's all trad, as far as I know. Belfast, Derry and Newcastle (Co. Down) have climbing gyms, and I think there might be some in the universities in Dublin. http://www.climbing.ie/ is a good place to start.
I can't think of anything better than arranging a year away around your favourite hobbies!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Letty
Date: 22 Oct 03 - 05:49 AM

Looking forward to it all. Still considering driving to Portaferry from Cork, if anyone needs a lift, let me know.

Letty

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: sian, west wales
Date: 22 Oct 03 - 06:05 AM

So, for the novices, how is accommodation arranged? I won't know if I can come until 9 Nov., but I see there are some cheap-ish flights from Cardiff (arriving Fri. night).

sian

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Letty
Date: 22 Oct 03 - 06:11 AM

Hmm, my first attempts at finding transport seem to indicate that flights from Cork to Belfast and back will cost about 200 euros (Jetmagic), and that the bus going via Dublin takes about 9 hours, and I'm not in Portaferry yet by then. Seems like I'm going by car!

Letty

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 22 Oct 03 - 08:26 AM

Thanks, Fib. Did Georgie stick to Irish tunes, or was he allowed to treat everyone to some old time? I'll see if they're planning to go next time. (Or maybe you already know?) Once again I know I'll be in Co Down (Bangor and Moira) for several days beforehand - but again, it might prove difficult staying on over the weekend.

Incidentally Dianna had an interesting book published about Irish traditional and some of its exponents: "Exploring Irish Music and Dance" (O'Brien Press, Dublin, 1998).

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 22 Oct 03 - 04:24 PM

Is the hostel back online yet-sent a couple of messages but no reply.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: JudeL
Date: 29 Oct 03 - 12:34 PM

Have now booked places at the hostel having finally got through by phone.

Have booked from Thursday night to Sunday night inclusive. Have not yet booked flights as am still discussing details of timing etc.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: My guru always said
Date: 29 Oct 03 - 07:47 PM

Oh excellent (bit slow - back on-line (ish))- can't wait, will be sorting bookings asap. Wonderful!! Loughstock II, any workshops being planned?
Hil

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 30 Oct 03 - 01:11 PM

cake making?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: My guru always said
Date: 30 Oct 03 - 07:54 PM

Been there, done that.....
Next!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 31 Oct 03 - 03:54 AM

How to suck a kazoo?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Oct 03 - 09:39 AM

Booked to fly with Greg and Eric from Liverpool. Ireland here we come - Can't wait. Never been over there before.

Look forward to seeing everyone.
Kate

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Kate
Date: 31 Oct 03 - 09:42 AM

Bloody computer keeps making me sign back in again. The previous guest was me.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 31 Oct 03 - 02:16 PM

Now I've got to book a bigger room. Is that alright Letty? Andy? What a room that will be, 2 young ladies, Andy, Skipjack me and three sheep!(Well it might be 5, you never know, and possibly a Dutch sheep dog!)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 31 Oct 03 - 02:35 PM

Ok with me.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: alanww
Date: 06 Nov 03 - 06:49 AM

Hi All

Just back from the USA and caught up with this thread. Thanks for worrying about me, Micca. But I have now emailed Linda at Barholm to confirm that we will be there from Thu to Sun (sightseeing on Fri and back on Sun so that Sandy can work on Mon am). Really looking forward to it. Will be nice to see some new names too as well as meeting old Mudcat friends.

MudGuard (not to mention the two ladies!): are you really agreeing to share with Eric the Viking and Skipjack?   That sounds very risky to me! Remember: I shared with them this year and I have been a nervous wreck even since!

Workshops, MGAS? That sounds a bit serious! What had you in mind?   I'm sure someone could oblige!   For myself, I think the kazoo workshop is the best idea - I have never mastered it myself. Must be something to do with pursing your lips in the right way, I suppose ...!

"One day in October, neither drunken nor sober ...!
Alan

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 06 Nov 03 - 02:23 PM

Fionn, yes both Geordie and Diane were playing, and Diane's husband also. I also saw Geordie playing at the bluegrass fest in Omagh this year.

the weekend was better than the threads

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 06 Nov 03 - 05:17 PM

Alan, why should I not share again with Erig and Skipjack?
As I am not such a weakling as you seem to be ;-), I was not wrecked by sharing Letty's brother's living room with them...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 06 Nov 03 - 07:58 PM

Definitely will be there. All the way from Bangor! Berths booked at Barholm.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Letty
Date: 07 Nov 03 - 12:39 PM

I called the hostel, and dogs aren't allowed, so it'll be just me coming up to Portaferry. Which is just as well, as my dog gets nervous when tin/low whistles are being played (or maybe it's just me playing them).
Did you think about my proposal, Herma (coming to Cork first)?

Love, Letty

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 07 Nov 03 - 06:49 PM

Letty,,when you rang the hostel, did you book yourself in? Or do you still want me to do it?

Well said Andy, that Alan hasn't as much staying power as we have!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 07 Nov 03 - 06:51 PM

Just a second thought Letty, why not fly "the Moose" over for the weekend, I'm sure he's empty the guiness vat!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 08 Nov 03 - 12:46 PM

I've booked and paid for flights for Micca and myself. We will be flying out from London Stanstead at 10.45 on Friday 30th January ( would love to have flown over on the Thursday but I can't get the time off!!) we arrive at Belfast International at 12.05. The return flights are 12.25 Belfast arriving London Stanstead 13.40.

See you all there!!

Khatt

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: My guru always said
Date: 08 Nov 03 - 01:03 PM

One of those wonderful charts of whose travelling how & when would come in handy soon....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Nov 03 - 02:01 PM

Arriving Belfast City Airport at 13:20 30th Jan
Depart same 13:50 2nd Feb.
Anybody around with wheels, or shall I hire??
Giok

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 10 Nov 03 - 10:15 AM

Freshen

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Letty
Date: 10 Nov 03 - 11:29 AM

Eric - I didn't book, merely asked about the dog situation (how's your dog?). So, I'd still be happy to share with you and the other fellas.
I've been told to look out for relatives of a friend of mine in Portaferry, a called Swain. Not too sure about the first name now.
Ah well, time to go back to work.

Letty

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: My guru always said
Date: 14 Nov 03 - 07:57 PM

Am booked at Barholm & flight .... now for the car hire etc.

Really looking forward to it, Thanks Fib!!!!!

Hil

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Leadfingers
Date: 15 Nov 03 - 09:32 AM

Hostel Booked !! Flights Booked !! Driving Licence being sorted for car hire !! Spare strings to be ordered for Bandola and Mandolin !!
All Systems GO !!!!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 27 Nov 03 - 07:13 AM

Just a little refreshing and updating.

I've admitted to a couple of people that I am learning the fiddle, which prompts me to ask the next question: Hilary mentioned workshops, and I was wondering/hoping we could have an informal hour or two with likeminded songsters and musicianers.I'd love it if I could get some help with my fiddling, if you pardon the smut.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 27 Nov 03 - 07:02 PM

Oh heck! Greg the Brigg fiddle festival teacher will give you several lessons I'm sure Fib-just watch out what he wants in payment!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Leadfingers
Date: 27 Nov 03 - 07:45 PM

Fibs. I would fiddle with you any time. Perhaps I ought to bring a violin ?? Or can I get away with Mandolin ??

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 27 Nov 03 - 08:36 PM

Maybe at least a workshop where beginners learn a tune collectively on whatever instruments they have? If the Bangor contingent are coming down again, then you've got a firstclass fiddle coach in Dianna. As I said earlier, I'll check on that, if you've not already done so, Fib.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 28 Nov 03 - 03:20 AM

Hiya Fib...

Don't forget to check out fiddle stuff near you... There's a beginner fiddle session near you every other Wednesday - down at the 'baisin'. I'll send you an email - of course there's Donals crew, but car is needed for that... Will email you about the one nearer town...

Ella....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 28 Nov 03 - 04:39 AM

Nice responses! A beginners' collective tune learning is a lovely idea.

Eric - indeed, mr skip has already mentioned his festival fiddle teaching experience - I await further instruction!

Leadfingers - I reckon a mandolin is just fine. Make sure the noise drowns out my scratchy playing!

Yup Fionn, the Bangor contingent are going to be there, all being well.

Ella m'dear - I know about the Nova Scotia sessions but am not yet ready to unleash my dirge-like "music" on the world. What's the story about the Avonmouth stuff (it is Avonmouth, isn't it?) as I'm in cycling distance of that!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From:
Date: 28 Nov 03 - 05:34 AM

I'll bring my fiddle too.....hopefully I won't have flu for this gathering!!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 28 Nov 03 - 09:27 AM

I'm learning 5 string banjo shall I bring it with me??
[AKA A bodhran with a stiffy.]
Giok

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 30 Nov 03 - 12:12 PM

Giok, isn't that the instrument that Luke Kelly made respectable? And if Geordie comes down from Bangor, he plays pretty mean bluegrass fiddle.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 21 Dec 03 - 06:25 PM

Portaferry beware! I am coming!

I just booked flights from Munich to London and London to Belfast and Belfast to London and London to Munich (as you can see, there is hope for Portaferry, as I intend to leave again).

If someone is going by car from Belfast to Portaferry and has an empty seat, I am willing to use that seat ;-)

Andy the MudGuard

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 21 Dec 03 - 06:29 PM

What time do you get into Belfast and on what day Mudguard??? Micca, Leadfingers and I are landing at Belfast International on the friday at 12.05 and will be sharing a taxi if you want to jump in with us??

Khatt

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 21 Dec 03 - 06:43 PM

I am supposed to arrive Belfast International at 12:25 on Friday - so if you are willing to wait for me...

Micca will be able to recognize me - we have met before...

Andy/MudGuard

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 21 Dec 03 - 06:49 PM

No problem Andy, we will wait for you to get of the plane!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 22 Dec 03 - 06:34 PM

They never responded to me e-mails, so I'll ring them tomorrow and book for Andy, Kate, Letty, Greg and myself.

In the meantime;

Have a very merry Christmas and a happy new year.

By the way, the sunrise and sunset on the solstice was really clear in Cleckheaton.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 23 Dec 03 - 02:48 AM

Eric, did you sacrifice a sheep at winter solstice? ;-)
(in the way illustrated on the postcard I sent you?) ;-)

Looking forward to meet you all (again)!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 24 Dec 03 - 06:47 PM

Listen mate-I've been stuffing a turkey this evening!!!!

Merry Christmas to everyone.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 29 Dec 03 - 06:06 PM

And so the Christmas festivities are over, (shame) New year looms, and the hostel is booked for Letty, Kate,Andy, Greg and myself.Breakfast is booked for the Saturday morning at 09.30. I've only paid a deposit so far.

Five weeks to go!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 30 Dec 03 - 09:02 AM

Thanks, Erik.

Flights are booked.
Place to stay is booked.

Something missing?

Oh yes:
Where can I book the fun? ;-)

31 days - less than 4.5 weeks - to go!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 31 Dec 03 - 06:23 AM

Is there a cash machine/hole in the wall/atm/... in Portaferry? Just in case I run out of these pounds... (it would be much easier if you had Euros over there...)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Micca
Date: 31 Dec 03 - 08:42 AM

Andy, Yes there is, just opposite the Pub!!! now thats planning!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 31 Dec 03 - 09:21 AM

Bad planning...

When you need more money after some beers, you have to cross the street twice to get more beer. Very dangerous.

The machine should be located WITHIN the pub ;-)

But thanks anyway, Micca. Last time I was in Portaferry is too long ago - and I did not spend more time there than is necessary to cycle from the ferry to the northern edge of town (on the way to Belfast...).

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 31 Dec 03 - 09:33 AM

I arrive at Belfast City Airport at 13:20 Friday, and pick up a hire car, return is Monday at 13:50. So if any one needs a lift let me know, I will have my mobile phone so if anyone thinks they might need my number, send me a PM.
Not long now..........John

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 31 Dec 03 - 09:39 AM

Greg, Kate and I need to hire a car from the airport. Any ideas or suggestions for a hire company, a bit less expensive than Hertz-which we used last year.

By the way;

A very happy new year to everyone.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 31 Dec 03 - 09:49 AM

Enjoy yourselves! And I hope someone has a mini-disc recorder - and pictures!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 31 Dec 03 - 10:09 AM

Hmmm... pity Aer Arann doesn't fly Cork to Belfast, its fares are good:

http://www.aerarann.com/

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 31 Dec 03 - 11:04 AM

Giok/John: I might buy a lift on the way back, my flight is scheduled at 12:25 (otherwise will take bus) - so it is okay to speak about details when there. On the way to Portaferry I'll join CatsPhiddle, Micca and Leadfingers.

MMario, I don't have a mini-disc recorder, but I will have my digital camera with me.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 31 Dec 03 - 12:12 PM

I found Budget to be the cheapest.
John

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 31 Dec 03 - 12:50 PM

Mudguard.....It seems you are on the same flight back to London as Micca and I.....we could share a taxi to the airport if you like too????

Khatt

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 31 Dec 03 - 01:19 PM

Thanks John, I'll try budget.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 31 Dec 03 - 07:35 PM

catsPhiddle, yes, we could. Or we could declare Giok/John to be our taxi-driver ;-)

I just checked the flight details again.
And I must somehow have mixed up arrival time in Belfast with departure time.
Seems to be the same flight from London to Belfast as well.

My flights are

London - Belfast: Friday, 30th January, Stansted 10:45, Belfast 12:05, easyjet flight no 253

Belfast - London: Monday, 2nd February, Belfast Intl 12:25, London 13:40, easyjet flight no 254

Btw, happy NEW YEAR 2004!
Only 29 days to go!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 01 Jan 04 - 06:46 AM

Where are you staying on the Sunday night Andy? I have only booked you in for Friday and Saturday nights. It might be that there is a bed in the hostel(probable) Do you want to check that out and make your own arrangements or wait until you get there?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 01 Jan 04 - 07:31 AM

As I said at the time, the best deal last year was with Alamo (National). I don't suppose they're offering that deal this year, but they might be worth trying. You should also get a price from Dan Dooley's - they sometimes have the best prices.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 01 Jan 04 - 07:37 AM

Eric, thanks for the hint, I somehow overlooked that - I will phone the hostel myself for booking the Sunday night!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Letty
Date: 01 Jan 04 - 09:30 AM

OK, I'll be coming by car from Cork on Friday. Anyone need a lift en route? I'm driving via Dublin, and will try to get to Portaferry using the ferry. Will there be ferry crossings in the evenings?

Letty

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 01 Jan 04 - 09:38 AM

Schedule of Strangford-Portaferry-Ferry

last ferry departs Strangford at 10:30 on Friday nights...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 01 Jan 04 - 07:00 PM

Letty, I have a pal who will be coming from Kilkeel. He's prepared to do it by buses, but is disabled (stroke) and might well appreciate a lift. If so, would you be willing to pick him up in Kilkeel? Or Newry, if you're going the inland route?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 08:56 AM

Did anybody ever do a complete list of those that are definitely coming?
John

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 09:42 AM

No, John, this job is still free - you can have it ;-)

To give you some help, I will start the list:

MudGuard (Andy)
John the Giok ;-)
Eric the Viking
Micca
Catsphiddle
Fibula Mattock
Letty
Alanww + Sandy
Skipjack Greg
Noreen
Mooman + Lady McMoo
Peter K (Fionn)
JudeL + ?
Leadfingers

(no guarantee that this list is complete or correct)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: mooman
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 09:47 AM

Tres malheuresement the Good Lady and I will not be able to come this time, the weekend unfortunately clashing simultaneously with our 25th wedding anniversary and our daughter's 16th birthday. We hope to see some combatants however at the Barton EuroGathering 2004.

Wishing everyone a great weekend of music, song and friendship.

Peace

moo

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 09:52 AM

Here is a list....if I have missed anyone off please add on!!!

Fibula Mattock
Micca
Eric the Viking
alanww + Sandy
Letty
MudGuard
mooman + Lady MacMoo
My guru always said
Kate
Peter K (Fionn)
catsPHiddle
John MacKenzie formerly known as Giok
Leadfingers
JudeL?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 09:53 AM

ooppss......mine and Andys posts crossed!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 10:07 AM

Richard, could there be a better way to celebrate than a MudGathering? ;-)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 11:59 AM

Quelle domage mon frere. I was so looking forward to the combat trousers, and the DMs.
John

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 12:02 PM

Noreen?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 07:02 PM

I think Noreen might have pulled out, perhaps because the dates are uncomfortably close to the recent publicised extravaganzes of the Shellback Tour?

You may add to the list my daughter Sorcha (11), who should know perhaps three or four fiddle tunes by then, and as indicated in my last post, who is disabled but will enjoy listening to the music and walking amid the pleasant scenery.

What abouit Felipa/Philippa?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 07:49 PM

Sorcha knows three more tunes than the rest of us, then! Nice to have the musicians' ranks swelled.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: mooman
Date: 02 Jan 04 - 08:18 PM

Dear John MacKenzie FNAG!

Is my sartorial elegance so widely known on the 'Cat. I had even received some new combat trousers as my Christmas gift from the Good Lady McMoo and was going to give my newer brown nubuck DMs an outing!

I hope we shall meet soon and wish you and all the attendees an excellent Portastock II. If a III is planned, I will definitely be over for that.

Dear Andreas,

You are quite right of course but the combined ranks of the female Clan McMoo members have me outvoted on this occasion I'm afraid!

Peace

moo

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 03:57 AM

Richard, why did you let the women have a vote at all? ;-)
Or why did you not at least give yourself 10 votes? ;-)

See you at the Euro Gathering then...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 03:54 PM

Just noticed a couple of words missing from my last post. I hesitate to spoil the image of my daughter heroically taking life by the scruff of the neck, in the face of cruel adversity, but before "who" in the fourth line I should have put "a chum".... It is the chum, not Sorcha, who is disabled (stroke damage).

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 04:57 AM

Catsphiddle/Leadfingers/Micca: according to the Motor Hackney Carriages By-Laws, a taxi from Belfast International to Portaferry costs about 50 Pounds (roughly 45 miles, 1.1 Pounds per mile, first 1.5 miles cost 2.5 Pounds ==> 2.5 Pounds + 43.5 * 1.1 = 2.5 + 47.3 = 49.8 Pounds).
Same price for the way back ==> 100 Pounds.

Might it be cheaper to rent a car? (No idea of the prices)
Or are you three non-drivers like me?

Just an idea...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 05:22 AM

micca and I don't drive. We split the cab 3 ways last time which didn't cost that much when paid in that way. A cab is better than the bus!!!! Last year I think it cost £49 or £50. If there are 4 of sharing the taxi it will be £12.50 each!

not long to go now!!!

Khatt

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Letty
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 05:48 AM

Happy new year everyone!


PeterK: I'd be happy to pick up your friend. I'll let you know if it's going to be Newry or Kilkeel: I haven't had a look at the map yet. You can PM me with details if you like.

Letty

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 07:07 AM

catsPhiddle: it was just a thought - no problem with the taxi...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Noreen
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 07:13 AM

Happy New Year all!

Stewart and I will be joining you in Portaferry. Flights and hostel booked, just need to make car arrangements.

Looking forward to our first holiday together :0)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Noreen
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 07:18 AM

Updated list:

alanww + Sandy
catsPHiddle
Eric the Viking
Fibula Mattock
John MacKenzie formerly known as Giok
JudeL?
Leadfingers
Kate
Letty
Micca
MudGuard
My guru always said
Noreen + Stewart
Peter K (Fionn), Sorcha and Peter's chum

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 07:26 AM

Noreen, that's great!
So I will have hard times in Portaferry! ;-)

26 days...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Leadfingers
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 11:05 AM

Cheapest Car hire I found was £120 for the weekend - and as the car is just going to sit outside the Hostel it seems a bit silly. The tax will be fine I think. By the way I have a mate who might well join in on Saturday just for the day - Good musician too.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 11:08 AM

Ok, if the car hire is more expensive than the taxi the decision is made. As I said before, it was just an idea to save money because I guessed the car hire would be cheaper - it isn't, so forget the idea...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 12:10 PM

A car was a good idea Andy and if I could drive and was going to stay for longer than weekend then I would definately consider the idea.....maybe I'll be driving for Loughstock III in 2005!!!

Looking forward to meeting up with everyone again!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 01:45 PM

BUDGET £58 Friday to Monday
John

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 05:43 PM

That might not be a big enough motor for four plus instruments, John. But there's certainly no need to pay anything like £120. Leadfingers, have you tried Alamo/National and Dan Dooley, both of which have bases at Aldergrove?

Letty, thanks. I'll send you a PM.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 06:00 PM

Quick update from Portaferry while I'm still here (was over for the new year, heading back to Bristol tomorrow):

We have 2 (TWO) cash machines now - count 'em an' weep. Both are in the Square.
Dumigan's is under new management - don't know what the music situation will be because of this, but I'll check it out.
There's a new session that has started up on Tuesday nights in Sand's, at the bottom of Church Street/corner of Ann Street, but I don't know if there'll be music at a weekend in there as the room is often used for other things. I'll have the family folks put out feelers and find out what's going on.

I'm sorry to hear that the moos won't be coming, but I'll see yous for the Eurogathering, all being well.

Peter K - I've only started on the fiddle, so all being well I'll know 3 or 4 tunes by then, so Sorcha will be in good company!

See you all soon...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 06:18 PM

Ohoh - so I will have to decide WHICH one of the many2 cash machines to use...

25 days...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Noreen
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 07:16 PM

John, BUDGET's advertised price doesn't include VAT or 'location charge' etc, so ends up being more expensive than other quotes. Dan Dooley looks good so I'll ring them in the morning to check a couple of details.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Noreen
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 07:20 PM

Now, is it the Stone outside Dan Dooley's door, or Won't you come home Dan Dooley that this makes me think of?
Or another song entirely?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 03:49 AM

Maybe you thouhgt of

Oh Danny Dooley Boy,
the cars, the cars are hooting

;-)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Micca
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 06:04 AM

or perhaps "dan dan dooley dooley dooley watch that dan dan do, dan dan do"?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Noreen
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 07:52 AM

:0)

No, it was
Hang down your head Dan Dooley !

Which he doesn't need to do, as Dan Dooley is far cheaper than the others- we've just hired a car for 5days for £95.70 compared with over £130 for any of the main car hire companies.

Portaferry here we come!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: GUEST,Skipjack K8
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 08:07 AM

Noreen, I thought we'd agreed it was 'Come ye back, Dan Dooley, to Ballyjamesduff'!

Despite partially true rumours that I have been annexed by the Viking, I will be coming, as I have a couple of free pints to collect from Frank in the Fiddler's.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: My guru always said
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 11:43 AM

Not long now....

Am booked to arrive at Belfast International at 15.30 on Friday returning 15.50 on Monday.

Just gonna check car hire, thanks for all helpful hints!!! Will have a couple of seats (& boot space) spare if anyone matches our times at the Airport. Let me know....

Can't wait! So sorry the Moo's can't make it!
Hil x
ps - how about a Pancake workshop this year????

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 11:53 AM

ooo Pancakes sound good....a workshop could be interesting Hil!!!

Last year some of the remaining catters put together for a sunday which we cooked and ate in the evening...anyone want to do this again?!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: My guru always said
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 11:57 AM

Am no good at cooking, but I can stand & fry pancakes for hours - as long as I get to eat some too!

If there's a microwave I can make large batches so we can just whizz them - then it's just a question of which fillings?????

I'm for Maple Syrup & Cream...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 11:59 AM

I quite like savoury fillings......spinich and ricotta cheese is a fav!! On the sweet side..chocolate is always good!!

I don't mind doing the cooking if people are up for a sunday dinner...as long as I can have a hand...I've heard that catters are rather good in the kitchen!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 12:00 PM

A fruit cake has fruit inside, a chocolate cake has chocolate inside, so a pancake has pans inside - whole pans or small pieces of pans? ;-)

Ah - language is unlogic!
rain code: protects against rain
children's coat: does NOT protect against children... ;-)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: My guru always said
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 12:18 PM

Hmmm.... I'll get me coat!

Cats - will help in kitchen, Fine Girl you are!!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 12:21 PM

grand! Im up for it if everyone else is....I think we all pitched in £5 or £10 and got a joint of beef and an assortment of veggies. we all brought a bottle of something to drink too

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 12:48 PM

cats, I will help as well but I want to get back my hand afterwards... ;-)

BUT: this means we have to do our duel Sunday after dinner or Monday morning - as only one of as will be alive afterwards... ;-)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 01:03 PM

I'll join that food game, I'm on a drastic diet at the moment, but have promised myself that weekend off, as a reward.
John

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 01:05 PM

I am on a drastic diet too: I must not eat anything between two meals ;-)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 05:27 PM

Skipjack annexed? Not by me.And I thought one of them pints o guiness was mine!! We need to sort out a car, and car parking at Liverpool yet skip. Us three (Andy, Me and thee) have been annexed away from Letty and Kate at night time-much to their relief I'd guess!!

https://kiosk4.ts.com/k?liverpoolairport&parkingtry this link for parking at the airport.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: An Pluiméir Ceolmhar
Date: 06 Jan 04 - 04:36 AM

Beware, MudGuard, the last time I was in Norn Iron (admittedly five or six years ago), most of the cash machines even in central Belfast displayed a few dozen UK cash-card logos, but did not accept cards from other countries.

Moreover, even if you do persuade them to cough up, the poinds which they give you are issued by Norn Iron banks and would not be accepted anywhere else in the UK. So you will either have to overestimate your Sterling requirements before you travel in order to be sure you don't run dry, or else accept that any money which you succeed in withdrawing in NI will have to be spent on drink before you leave there. Tough choice, huh?

Ironies of history footnote: the banks which issue these strange notes include the banks based in the Republic, even though the latter cannot issue notes on their home territory (which is part of the Euro zone). My experience of trying to withdraw money as a Southern Irish Catholic with a Belgian bank card yielded enough material for a PhD thesis (well OK, at least a short song) on the echoes of history in daily life in Northern Ireland. E.g. the charming young shop assistant in Eason's bookshop (Eason's in Dublin was still in my lifetime a very "Protestant" shop) who didn't register my Dublin accent and kept asking about whether my card (from the capital of Europe) would work "on the mainland" (i.e. in Great Britain); or the fact that one of the banks which issue this strange money is the successor to the bank established by Daniel O'Connell ("Liberator" of the Catholic peasantry in the 19th Century); or the fact that this sweet girl, who doubtless is proud to be a British subject, checked all the tills in the shop and could only come up with about twenty pounds in notes which would be accepted on what she would regard as "the mainland".

But don't let my ramblings put anyone off, the half-dozen people whom I approached in shops and on the streets were all extremely helpful and made me feel really welcome in a city that I hadn't visited in the previous thirty years.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 06 Jan 04 - 04:50 AM

Thanks, APC, for that reminder - I have been to that part of the UK before - and also to Scotland (which has its own bank notes as well). I did not have any troubles using the "left-over" banknotes in other parts of the UK (Scottish notes in North Ireland, North Irish in Wales...). The only money NOT excepted in England was the Isle-Of-Man-Notes this year.

I had no problem using my bank card in Warrenpoint, Cushendall and Coleraine in Summer 1999 - and I think the situation should have become better, not worse in the meantime.

It would be much easier if the UK had the Euro though...

24 days...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 06 Jan 04 - 05:07 AM

Ok, did not reach the hostel by phone so tried it by email.
Erik, you must have done something wrong - I got an answer - I got the extra night booked.

Linda also wrote this:

>I have explained to some, but I am hoping to start repairs to Barholm, and
>the first to get fixed will be the conservatory, or I should say knocked
>down. Have to fix the gable end, so I am removing the conservatory and
>rebuilding it, but sadly it will not be done before you get here. I just
>hope it does not cause too much inconvenience.

Sounds like the conservatory will be knocked down and not yet rebuilt by the time we are there.

24 days...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 06 Jan 04 - 05:16 AM

I was having a banknote argument only yesterday. I knew I'd heard somewhere that bank of England banknotes were only legal tender in England and Wales, and other forms of paper money were representative of money (rather than actually *being* money). In fact, I probably heard this on Mudcat....
Bank of England website says:
The concept of legal tender is often misunderstood. Contrary to popular opinion, legal tender is not a means of payment that must be accepted by the parties to a transaction, but rather a legally defined means of payment that should not be refused by a creditor in satisfaction of a debt.

The current series of Bank of England notes are legal tender in England and Wales, although not in Scotland or Northern Ireland, where the only currency carrying legal tender status for unlimited amounts is the one pound and two pound coins.

So we're all just using make-believe mickey mouse money after all.
I agree about the Euro though.Oh, but a lot of places in Norn Iron take Euros now, certainly in Belfast.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: An Pluiméir Ceolmhar
Date: 06 Jan 04 - 06:29 AM

This brings back memories of the declaration on the pound note that used to say "I promise to pay the bearer one pound", or words to that effect. Is that tautology or wha'?

As a postscript, on the way back I tried to use a pound coin picked up in NI which had a thistle motif on it (presumably issued for use in Scotland) in the environs of London, and it was refused, even though it had the Queen's head on the other side and coinage is at least notionally issued by the sovereign state rather than by a bank.

All the more reason to spend it all on drink before it goes out of fashion.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 06 Jan 04 - 06:41 AM

I didn't have a problem when we retuned from Portaferry with coins last year....a tip though...if the coins are refused by the shops just use them in vending machines or ticket office machines...thats what we used to do when we came back from Guernsey!!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 06 Jan 04 - 08:42 AM

Well...

I hope you all have fun... Just think of me, stuck in diy hell with no end in sight. All fun and festivities are called off. Got no kitchen, no kitchen tap (just the outside tap), no washing machine, and no cooker. it's amazing what can be cooked in a microwave. Though going outside to get the water for the morning cuppa is breathtaking...

Coooo have fun! Ella full of dust, old rendering dust and owner of sneezing cat.... Still at least the cat still gets fed.

;-(

Won't be long now!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Letty
Date: 06 Jan 04 - 10:16 AM

What a strange money system. Perhaps I should bring stuff to trade ( I still have lots of wine, did you know you can import 90 litres for your own consumption per trip within the EU? I wonder which AA member thought that up)
I'll probably be okay, 'though, with an Irish (Republic), Dutch and German bankcard.
If only I had more money on them :-)

Letty

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 06 Jan 04 - 10:19 AM

Letty, don't bring the wine for trading - I think shiny colored glass pearls might be better ;-)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Micca
Date: 06 Jan 04 - 12:04 PM

Letty, DO Bring the wine for Trading, I would be happy to exchange standard British Beer Tokens for some ( especially if it is dry and red)
I have been in touch with the Fair Linda at Barholm and have a list of the room allocations, I am reluctant to publish it but if you want to know your room number please Pm me

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: GUEST,Skipjack K8
Date: 06 Jan 04 - 12:05 PM

That nice Dan Dooley has sorted me out a wizard little car, which the Viking can jolly well drive, for a bargain £48, Friday through Sunday. That'll be good.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 06 Jan 04 - 03:41 PM

You se how kind he is to me-I can drive him and others about-"OH THANKYOU MIGHTY ONE FOR THAT SMALL PLEASURE".

"Would you allow me the privalage of carrying your baggage?"

Oh what it is to be management.

Just one small request sir. Please may I stop at that sheep field on the way over?

Thankyou

Yours sincerely (sheepishly)

Peasant.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 07 Jan 04 - 06:17 AM

~REFRESH~

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 07 Jan 04 - 09:51 AM

One other thing - we had a raffle with the proceedings going to Mudcat last year. If you want this to happen again, then can everyone bring something suitable so that Cllr can win it all (whether he's there or not. He cleaned up last year, the jammy sod).

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: My guru always said
Date: 07 Jan 04 - 10:31 AM

What an excellent opportunity to rid ourselves of those strange Christmas gifts. Or perhaps end up winning them again.....
Thanks Fib,
Hil x

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Big Mick
Date: 08 Jan 04 - 01:06 AM

I am just in from practice with The Conklin Ceili Band. Would you folks have room for 5 to 6 more folks? If we can get the flights, the lads, lass and I will try and make it in on Friday and take off on Monday. Keep your fingers crossed. I will be checking with Aer Lingus and Lufthansa tomorrow. Are there rooms available in the hostel?

It would be great fun to meet you all.

Mick

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 08 Jan 04 - 03:58 AM

Linda of Barholm Hostel will know whether there are beds.
Get contact details here: Barholm Hostel

I think in the room Erik, Skipjack and myself are sharing there should be one bed free. I can't speak for Erik and Skipjack but I do not mind if that were taken by one of your party, Mick.

22 days only...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Micca
Date: 08 Jan 04 - 04:39 AM

Mick, the latest info I had(day before yesterday)is that there is still a room available that should be big enough for you guys contact Linda at Barholm, (details in first post in this thread)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 08 Jan 04 - 05:25 AM

Most other details are on the web site.

Lookng forward to it. Ella, I'm so sorry you won't be able to make it. That would've been good.

Mick - fingers are crossed!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: alanww
Date: 08 Jan 04 - 06:13 AM

Yes, Fib - Cllr - I haven't heard from him for quite a while. Anyone else in contact? Is he well? Is he not going to Portaferry? And what about the Middle Bar Reunion and Whittlesey, this weekend, as well?
" ... just as the sun was rising ...!"
Alan

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: My guru always said
Date: 08 Jan 04 - 11:58 AM

Alan - Cllr is well but it doesn't look like he'll be joining us this time. Middle Bar reunion is a must.

Big Mick & The Band - I am CERTAIN that Linda of Barholm will be able to fit you guys & gal in! Chatting to her last year she told us the total number of beds and then proceeded to tell us that there are loads of 'put-you-up' beds available aswell. Please contact Linda of Barholm - by phone in the mornings Irish time is best - we're all keeping our fingers crossed that you can get the flights etc this year!!!!

Hil

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 08 Jan 04 - 12:14 PM

Big Mick I have everything crossed for you and the guys+gals to make it this year.....looking forward to meeting you!!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 08 Jan 04 - 01:34 PM

Mick,you and your mates can come(It would be really great) ,but be warned,us English don't take prisoners in the sheep department-so who ever sleeps with us had better be brave!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 08 Jan 04 - 03:00 PM

Andy-that was bloody quick! Chatting up on o them yanks before they even got here-he don't hang about does he? Hope he gets the ugly one for that! (Don't know if any of them is ugly) But because he's got an americin he can't have a sheep-so there.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: JudeL
Date: 08 Jan 04 - 03:28 PM

Yes we are coming. John Henry, Raven & myself are booked on a ferry leaving Holyhead @ 3pm arriving @ Dublin 6.15 pm on Thursday. We leave Monday catching the 9pm ferry back. See you all there

Cheers Jude

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 08 Jan 04 - 03:54 PM

I should have told noone here at home that I am going to Ireland...

Letty or any one else who is coming through the Republic of Ireland:
I have requests to bring 3 complete set of Irish Euro coins.
If you could bring them to Portaferry, I will buy them off you...

Erik: what should I do with a sheep? Sheep are good for tiny people like you, I need something taller. Btw., are there any elephants living in Co. Down?

22 days...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 08 Jan 04 - 04:28 PM

No elephants Andy, but I believe there's an ostrich farm on the peninsula. Or maybe it was llamas...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Big Mick
Date: 08 Jan 04 - 05:18 PM

You lads have obviously never heard about Bossie, the stump trained cow. Some customs get a bit twisted when they cross the pond......LOL

I will keep you all posted.

Mick

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 08 Jan 04 - 05:45 PM

Right, Andy-tiny people-I'll show you!!! I'll bring a big box!!

Stump trained cow, eh! That sounds ok to me, Greg-You try it first-you are management.

Richard n Pat-see what you are missing out on!! (In your new combats, you could get nearer to the Ostriches or Llamas!!)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: My guru always said
Date: 08 Jan 04 - 06:39 PM

I have to say that there is no way that I'm going to Coleraine this year......

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 09 Jan 04 - 08:01 AM

Why not mgas?

What's wrong with Coleraine?

E

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 09 Jan 04 - 09:02 AM

Because there are better Irish Whiskeys than Coleraine!? ;-)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: My guru always said
Date: 09 Jan 04 - 10:56 AM

Ah Ella, I managed to do a 'side-trip' to Coleraine accidently during the last gathering. My own fault for offering to take someone to 'above Belfast' but instead of a 2 hour car journey, it took 6 hours. I missed lots of fun with the Catters but managed to get 30 minutes at the Giants Causeway though which made me feel a bit better about the whole deal. Silly wasn't I?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: JudeL
Date: 09 Jan 04 - 11:32 AM

I have told Raven he owes you lots of creeping crawling and liquid refreshment merely for you to consider saying hello to him.

It has not had any noticible effect.... but then what does .... at that age boys seem to have very little awareness of the impact on others of what they want to do, or indeed how fair or reasonable it is for them to ask!

Remember MGAS just smile & keep refusing to take him anywhere!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: My guru always said
Date: 10 Jan 04 - 09:33 AM

creeping crawling and liquid refreshment merely for you to consider saying hello to him

This sounds like a wonderful strategy & I will take your advice on board re. smiling & refusing....

Actually, I may not even be able to get a hire car due to terms & conditions, so I may be using taxi's anyway!!!

Not long now.....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 10 Jan 04 - 10:15 AM

Like I said, arriving at Belfast CITY Airport about 13-30 on the Friday, have only hired a small car, but I'm on my own, so if anybody is around that needs a lift, try 07739 464742.
John

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 11 Jan 04 - 02:04 PM

19 days...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 12 Jan 04 - 03:18 AM

I phoned Easyjet yesterday to make sure their policy from last year regarding taking instruments into the cabin is still in place, and it its! All instruments are allowed to be taken into the cabin as well as your hand luggage as long as it fits into the over head lockers!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 12 Jan 04 - 03:24 AM

Thanks for the info, catsPHiddle. On the way back I might use my tin whistle to force the pilot to make a direct flight to Munich... ;-)

18 days...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 12 Jan 04 - 04:04 AM

Ahhh.. I see MGAS... Though you did get to see some of the lovely Antrim coastline and surrounding countryside. So not a lost cause. I love it up by the Causeway, its lovely!

Anyways, you don't get lost.... you find new places!

Ella

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: My guru always said
Date: 12 Jan 04 - 12:06 PM

Looks like the car hire is still OK for me having had a bit of a chat with Avis. So still got a couple of spare seats & some boot space around 4pm Friday at Belfast International, returning about 4pm on the Monday.

Hope everyone's as keen on pancakes as I am.......

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: My guru always said
Date: 12 Jan 04 - 12:09 PM

And you're so right Ella, exploring is a real pleasure - so is meeting new friends & hearing new songs. These things make the world go around for me....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Big Mick
Date: 12 Jan 04 - 12:54 PM

My friends,

Circumstances, once again, cause me to have to cancel. I will make this gathering one day, I swear. But I fear this is not the year. I am sorry, as I was very excited.

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 12 Jan 04 - 01:00 PM

What a pity, Big Mick...

BUT: if you are not coming, I'll most likely win the furthest travel award...

18 days...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: My guru always said
Date: 12 Jan 04 - 07:23 PM

And we were excited too Big Mick, so sorry you can't make it this year.... Maybe next time!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Leadfingers
Date: 12 Jan 04 - 10:32 PM

Are there going to be ANY transponders over this year then ??? If not, its got to be their loss as we seem to have a great time with just fairly local people. And this year I am bringing MY minidisc, so prepare to have songs and tunes stolen!!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 13 Jan 04 - 09:22 AM

Leadfingers, that depends on the pond...

Strangford Lough?
Irish Sea?
Channel?

17 days...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 13 Jan 04 - 10:45 AM

I'm trying to borrow a minidisc player, but if that doesn't work out then can some of you kind people with your own burn me a cd of all the great tunes and songs that will be played?

So, don't forget the checklist:
warm clothes,
instrument of choice (kazoos welcome, and indeed, encouraged),
something for the raffle,
yer good selves

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 13 Jan 04 - 01:47 PM

I'll bring my minidisc too!!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 13 Jan 04 - 04:25 PM

I don't need no warm clothes-I've got a Skipjack!! He has a hot sweaty body-so I'm told!(Shame 'bout them mericins though)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jan 04 - 05:22 PM

I shall bring my digicam.
John

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 13 Jan 04 - 06:02 PM

john is a funny name for a digicam! I thought Len (s) might be a better name.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 13 Jan 04 - 06:28 PM

Sorry a bit over exposed on that one, it was me. MAY HAVE LEFT MYSELF A BIT EXPOSED ON THAT ONE [damn laptop!] My ISDN line died on me today and I can only connect on the laptop, which I haven't used for ages, so everything was SNAFU, no log-ons, clock wrong, date 2003, oh what a day I've had with computers. Don't you just love them?
My digicam is called Sony Boy!!
Climb upon my knee!!
Shit it's past my beddy time.
Night all....John

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 14 Jan 04 - 05:16 AM

16 days...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Letty
Date: 14 Jan 04 - 05:23 AM

I think your countdown makes the happening sound a bit ominous, MudGuard! :-)
Can I bring my shiny egg?

Letty

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 14 Jan 04 - 03:06 PM

Letty, you can bring all the eggs you want, no matter whether they are shiny or shaky ;-)

As long as you bring along lots of Irish Euro coins as well. By now, I'd need 4 complete sets... ;-)

Still 16 days...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 14 Jan 04 - 06:16 PM

Not looking forward to it then Andy?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 15 Jan 04 - 02:55 AM

Why should I not be looking forward to it?

Just because I count backwards? ;-)

15 days...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: alanww
Date: 15 Jan 04 - 06:29 AM

Hiya Fib et al
I've had my winter hibernation now and am looking forward (not backwards, Andy) to NI. The sap is rising! What's the latest on numbers and when is everyone arriving/departing? Its a pity Big Mick cannot make it this time - and Cllr and Noreen (is that really true?)!
Sandy and I are coming on the Thurday and going Sunday. Unfortunately, its work for her on Monday - all together now: "SHAME". I am still willing to give a lift from the City Airport if the time is convenient ...
"Five jolly fellows came over the hill together ...!"
Alan

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 16 Jan 04 - 06:28 AM

Alan, the latest, in numbers, is - of course - 23:59:59 ;-) ;-) ;-)

not much change since the last list:

alanww + Sandy
catsPHiddle
Eric the Viking
Fibula Mattock
John MacKenzie formerly known as Giok
John Henry, Raven & JudeL
Leadfingers
Kate
Letty and some eggs ;-)
Micca
MudGuard
My guru always said
Noreen + Stewart
Peter K (Fionn), Sorcha and Peter's chum

20 people

14 days...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: GUEST,Skipjack K8
Date: 16 Jan 04 - 06:43 AM

Can I come?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 16 Jan 04 - 06:57 AM

Course ya can! Put Greg on that list! Quick!

So, I suspect we can all meet up in Fiddlers on the Friday afternoon, just like last year, except this year I have short hair, a fiddle, and a much better disposition. Ah, you'll have trouble recognising me alright.

Fib/kate

p.s. No sign of John Moulden, potato peeler extraordinaire, yet?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 16 Jan 04 - 08:14 AM

alanww + Sandy
catsPHiddle
Eric the Viking
Skipjack
Fibula Mattock
John MacKenzie formerly known as Giok
John Henry, Raven & JudeL
Leadfingers
Kate
Letty and some eggs ;-)
Micca
MudGuard
My guru always said
Noreen + Stewart
Peter K (Fionn), Sorcha and Peter's chum

21 people

14 days...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Morticia
Date: 16 Jan 04 - 08:30 AM

21 people, 14 days.......doesn't that sound like the intro to a Disaster movie? You know, one where the plane crashes and they have to eat one another to stay alive or somesuch? Sorry, guess I'm being whimsical again.....I do try and control it but sometimes it gets the better of me.

Anyway, I hope you all have a fabulous time....I wish I could afford to do Ireland and the Middle Bar Reunion, but as I can't, I went with the Middle Bar 'cos the 25 hour sing sounds like something I can bore people at dinner parties with for years.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 17 Jan 04 - 05:30 AM

Morticia, if you don't come, you can't collect your free pint!

13 days...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 17 Jan 04 - 08:20 AM

Morty you will be missed....but I am sure (with a little help from others) that I could drink you quota of the alcoholic stuff!!!

It would have been a good way to celebrate your birthday....I'll have post your pressie to you instead!!

Khatt

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 17 Jan 04 - 08:26 AM

No, catsPhiddle, you don't get Morticia's free pint! You get the fight you booked ;-)

13 days...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 17 Jan 04 - 08:49 AM

I wasn't on about her Free pint...she has to claim that one in person!! Fights will have to be postponed due to me being crippled.....however if I stuck sharp blades to my sticks I could be at an advantage!!!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 17 Jan 04 - 09:57 AM

Crippled? What happened?
Speedy healing!

13 days...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: JudeL
Date: 17 Jan 04 - 12:54 PM

No Cllr & no Morty ! Does this mean I don't need to bring the massage oil this year?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 17 Jan 04 - 01:06 PM

Jude, do you massage bad backs? Then I might be your victim ;-)

13 days...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: JudeL
Date: 17 Jan 04 - 01:12 PM

It has been known...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 17 Jan 04 - 09:03 PM

I've been known to give massages to.....do I need to bring oils???

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 18 Jan 04 - 04:37 AM

You don't need to, but you may ;-)

12 days...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: JudeL
Date: 19 Jan 04 - 08:52 AM

Cat: Don't go overboard but it might be a good idea for you to bring oils as well cos last year I was the only one who had packed any... and as that was more luck than design & as the oil in question was cocoa butter oil there were quite a number of people going round smelling like chocolate!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 19 Jan 04 - 09:05 AM

Not to worry Jude I'll bring some oils too!

I have a count down running in my work diary now until I leave work for Ireland!!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 19 Jan 04 - 09:20 AM

We could buy some olive oil or vegetable oil in the supermarket... ;-)

11 days...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 19 Jan 04 - 09:23 AM

I'll bring some dripping, and maybe a bonus jar of recovered vegetable oil from a Bradford curryhouse

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 19 Jan 04 - 11:16 AM

I'll bring the midnight oil which I am currently burning (a month and a half of my PhD to go, all being well, and a HUGE paper deadline for this Wednesday, so I've barely slept in a week and am somewhat frazzled).

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 10:02 AM

10 days only!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Letty
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:46 AM

Have taken some emergency fiddle classes (St Anne's, Sporting Paddy's, Father O'Flynn's and Tripping up the stairs).
BEWARE!
:-)

Letty

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 12:09 PM

Sure'n ye'll be the incredible Dr Fibs before ye know it.
John

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 12:14 PM


The Abominable Dr Fibs [Phibes]

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: GUEST,Fibula (guesting)
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 04:27 PM

Fantastic! I never knew about that before. I will double my efforts to ensure such a role does not elude me.

I will also try and learn some very sloooooooooooooow versions of the tunes Letty mentioned. On fiddle. Or kazoo. Or both, mwah aha hah ahahh (evil laugh).

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 02:24 AM

9 days only!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 22 Jan 04 - 04:23 AM

8 days till Portaferry, one week until departure!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fortunato
Date: 22 Jan 04 - 12:40 PM

Have fun you lucky suckers. Wish I could be there. Give the girls a hug and a smooch for me, and keep an eye on the Micca for me.

chance

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 22 Jan 04 - 01:04 PM

OK, I'll take the job of hugging the girls.
Keeping an eye on Micca I leave for the rest... ;-)

8 days!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 23 Jan 04 - 02:31 AM

Just a week now! 7 days only!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 24 Jan 04 - 12:33 PM

6 days only! I am getting really excited!
What about the rest of you? Are you getting bored?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Jan 04 - 01:51 PM

Perish the thought Andreas, I'm just worried about the snow that is forecast, as I have a 3 hours + drive to the airport across wild highland hills.
John

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 24 Jan 04 - 02:00 PM

Ohoh!
Doesn't sound good...

Some of these highland roads were hard work in summer - must be much worse in snow conditions!

Save traveling!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 25 Jan 04 - 03:08 AM

5 days! Almost there!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: My guru always said
Date: 25 Jan 04 - 08:11 AM

Hope the snow doesn't interfere with anyone's travel, looking forward to the weekend!

Same as last time my back has just 'gone' so I'll be very careful with any hugging :-)

Am definitely not bored...
Hil

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 25 Jan 04 - 08:32 AM

Heavy snow here in Munich, 20cm (8inches) since last night, and still more coming down...

Weather in Belfast seems to be 4°C (39°F), lots of clouds, but no rain/snow.

London (where I stop on Thursday night) is a bit warmer: 8°C, cloudy.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: GUEST,Stephen R.
Date: 25 Jan 04 - 10:07 AM

And while you over there on the holy ground, if anyone should come across a hill with a name that sounds like 'lunar' mountain or 'valiant' mountain, or else could be translated to either of these, please post the information to my poor neglected (except by Claire Bear) thread. Thanks

Stephen R.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 04:08 AM

Well folks it would seem like once again the fates have conspired to thwart my visit to Portaferry. My Mother passed away early hours of this morning, so sadly I can't make it again this year.
John

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 04:14 AM

I am very sorry for you, John. May her soul rest in peace!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 04:16 AM

John, I'm really sorry to hear about your mother. Take care. We'll be thinking of you.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: GUEST,Skipjack K8
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 04:30 AM

Very sorry to hear your sad news, John. Perhaps you can make the Eurogathering as small consolation?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Leadfingers
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 06:05 AM

Condolences John

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 07:36 AM

So sorry to hear of your loss John..... {{hugs}}

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: My guru always said
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 10:58 AM

So Sorry John....
Hil

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 03:37 PM

4 days to go...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: alanww
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 07:38 PM

Sorry to hear that, John.
Hope to see you at other events during the year.
"Time passes over ...!"
Alan

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 27 Jan 04 - 02:20 AM

3 days only!

All those coming through the republic, please remember to bring lots of Irish Euro coins - thanks in advance!

Andy/MudGuard

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 27 Jan 04 - 03:55 AM

Another question about Portaferry:

Does Portaferry have a post office (for some stamps for postcards)?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 27 Jan 04 - 04:51 AM

Yes Andy, it does. It's on The Square.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 27 Jan 04 - 05:30 AM

Thanks, Fibula!

Everything in Portaferry seems to be on The Square (except for the hostel).

3 days!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: My guru always said
Date: 27 Jan 04 - 07:41 AM

Just checked my booking with Linda, all is well & can't wait!

Have just been & had my back cracked so am feeling much better now (hooray). Not too many painkillers by the weekend - I suppose I'll have to rely on the Guinness again - oh dear....

Will have a few small surprises with me - not as much fun as the Cake workshop last year but should bring a few smiles.

Gearing up to a complete system restore on this thing so may not get back on-line before the weekend - in which case I wish you all safe travel now...

Hil

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Micca
Date: 27 Jan 04 - 07:54 AM

Oh and Fellow Loughstockers, dont forget something for Fibs famous (or is that infamous?) Raffle ,in aid of Mudcat funds, last year Leadfingers won a guided tour of the Ards Peninsula !!! and it was good fun all round, so if you have an unwanted xmas prezzie, or a bag of Jelly babies or whatever to add to the prizes,bring it along and you will get Points, and what do points make????

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Morticia
Date: 27 Jan 04 - 08:08 AM

erm.......very pointy things?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Micca
Date: 27 Jan 04 - 01:57 PM

Morty "...and the horse you rode in on"

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 27 Jan 04 - 05:39 PM

And so we are nearly there.Time to start packing! Hope the snow looks beautiful when we arrive, but is safe for driving. First snow for Cleckheaton this year started about 1 hour ago.See you all soon.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Leadfingers
Date: 27 Jan 04 - 08:55 PM

As long as Easy Jet is still Flying out of Stanstead on Friday Morning

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 02:45 AM

And out of Munich tomorrow...

2 days!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 04:03 AM

Okay folks, I'll probably be in Fiddlers Green from lunchtime on Friday, where we met last year. (More-or-less in The Square - yet again - for anyone who's new to the place.)

On Friday night a lot of the pubs will have their own stuff on so we'll have to find somewhere that avoids the regular entertainment. My suggestion is Dumigan's, on Ferry Street, but it's recently changed management and I don't know what the new policy is on sessions. But I will find out! There's always the hostel anyway - maybe we can use the conference room again like last year.

According to my personal weatherforecaster (my da) there's no sneachta in Portaferry yet, but we don't get snow all that often, being by the sea an' all.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Letty
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 04:58 AM

Ta se an-fhuar ar fad i gCorcaigh!

Letty

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: alanww
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 06:18 AM

So Mudguard et al, am I the first to leave home?
After lunch today (Wednesday) I am off to Ross-on-Wye to pick up Sandy for a Thursday morning drive to Birmingham International Airport, arriving at Belfast City Airport after lunch.
Then a bit of relaxing until it hots up on Friday evening.
See you all then!
"Oh Lord, help me to raise 'em, boy...!"
Alan

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 08:23 AM

Letty, my immense knowledge of the Irish Language tells me that you wrote something about "Cork". All the rest is still a mystery to me...

Alan, who is Mudguard? I am MudGuard ;-)

2 days till Portaferry, 1 day till London...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 09:01 AM

My paltry Irish skills (which don't get much more complicated than asking "would you like a cup of tea?") translate this as "it's altogether very cold in Cork"! I would believe it too.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Letty
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 09:57 AM

It's probably colder up north though. Ba mhaith liom cupan tae, Fibula, le do thoil!

*grin*

Letty

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 10:12 AM

Ar mhaith leat bainne agus siúcra, Letty?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 10:22 AM

Are you talking about a cup of tea, with milk and sugar?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 10:27 AM

Hopefully!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Noreen
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 11:57 AM

No sugar for me ta.

Setting off from home at 5.45 am Thurs to drive to Liverpool for flight to Belfast. My previous experience of that time of the morning is usually from not having been to bed the night before...

Andreas, I am bringing Stewart with me so you will have someone to look up to for a change :0)


See you all soon!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 12:34 PM

Whoa! So some of you will be in town village on Thursday? I don't get in til Thursday night late, so I doubt I'll be out. There's usually a pub quiz on in Fiddlers on a Thursday evening if yez fancy yer chances.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 12:47 PM

I hope we can get out of London on Friday morning...In the past 45 minutes we have had a thunder storm and about an inch of snow has fallen...and it settling....it will more than likely have disappeared by Friday with a bit of luck!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 01:03 PM

How tall is Steward, Noreen?
Taller than my 1.94m? (6'4")

1.5 days!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 01:21 PM

I've twice e-mailed Linda at the Barholm, and had the mail returned. All I want to do is let her know I can't make it.
John

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 01:29 PM

Don't worry John, we'll get the message to her somehow!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 01:33 PM

John, I will tell her, no problem.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 01:34 PM

Uuups, Fibula was faster...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Noreen
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 01:41 PM

He tells me he's an inch taller than that, Andy- but I'll find it difficult to compare your heights from down here on the ground :0)

And he's a Stewart rather than a Steward!

You bringing any chocolate cake???

(Giok- so sorry you can't make it- hope all is as well as it can be at home.)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 02:02 PM

Sorry Stewart! No offense intended!

Sorry Noreen, no chocolate cake coming with me...
Let's see whether the hostel has good kitchen equipment...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: My guru always said
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 07:45 PM

MudGuard: The hostel certainly does have some kitchen equipment (not necessarily up-to-date, but workable) & it was used well last year, both for a sponge cake & a wonderful roast dinner!!!!!

Back on-line after a raggy system restore - till the next time...

Keeping fingers crossed for no snow, good luck to those travelling tomorrow, enjoy the quiz night!
Hil x

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: MudGuard
Date: 29 Jan 04 - 12:46 AM

1 day! I am so excited!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 29 Jan 04 - 05:43 AM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

Bristol Airpport is closed due to an iced over runway and all flights are cancelled.

With a bit of luck they'll have de-iced by this evening and maybe it won't refreeze... my flight's at 7.55pm.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Leadfingers
Date: 29 Jan 04 - 06:52 AM

We are sweating on Stanstead for tomorrow morning. All being well we will be in Fiddlers early afternoon.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: GUEST,AKA a catter remaining anonymous
Date: 29 Jan 04 - 08:55 AM

Noreen/Mudguard I don't know what the problem is. What's an Inch among friends?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Letty
Date: 29 Jan 04 - 09:39 AM

I'm so glad I didn't book a flight to Belfast (instead I'm going by car), as I just heard that JetMagic's gone bust.
Hope nobody's affected.

Letty

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: alanww
Date: 29 Jan 04 - 10:53 AM

Birmingham International closed last night ... icy runway ... then open at 12 noon today ... many early flights cancelled ... others just delayed ... our flight ok ... then our flight cancelled ... all alternative flights booked up ... changed to a 9am flight tomorrow, Friday ... back home for tonight! Ugh! More ice tonight???
Still hope to make it!
"Abroad for pleasure ...????"
Alan

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 29 Jan 04 - 11:43 AM

Bristol airport has reopened. So far so good. See yous tomorrow.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 29 Jan 04 - 02:41 PM

Yup, me, Skipjack and Kate will be seting off for the airport at 16.30 tomorrrow. Should be ready to get on the plane about now 19.40.See you tomorrow night.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 30 Jan 04 - 01:54 AM

Micca, MudGuard and myself will be setting off at 7.30am when the taxi comes to pick us up to take us to Stanstead....see you all in the Fiddlers at lunch time!!

Khatt

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From:
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 05:17 AM

There should be a new thread-the floow up. I'll start one.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Meet Ireland 2004: Loughstock II
From: Letty
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 08:48 AM

That'll be here