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Subject: RE: Tech: ?404 not found /null? From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 27 Oct 03 - 07:34 AM Hello, Chris Welcome to Mudcat- you'll love it (well, you've seen bits of it already) Tonight I have looked at 3 threads since I logged on (interspersed with reading & replying to mail) - all tried to connect to the funny google site & got 404 messages. Right clicking n Netscape doesn't give Properties, instead I get View source & View Info. 1. View source - #HTML##HEAD##TITLE#404 Not Found#/TITLE##/HEAD# #BODY bgcolor="White"##H2#404 Not Found#/H2# The requested URL was not found on this server:#P##CODE#/null#P#(c:\!webserver\mudcat\htdocs\null)#/CODE##P# Please return to the #A HREF="http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=62028&messages=163&page=1"#referring document#/A# and note the hypertext link that led you here.#P# #/BODY##/HTML# ................ 2. view info Location: http://www.mudcat.org/null File MIME Type: text/html Source: Currently in memory cache Local cache file: none Last Modified: Unknown Last Modified: Unknown Content Length: 390 Expires: No date given Charset: Unknown Security: This is an insecure document that is not encrypted and offers no security protection. ............................... all very intersting - last night it I read a number of threads before getting one that gve the 404 message (17 minutes after logging on), tonight the first thread I clicked on gave the 404 message. I'll go to Ozemail's site later to see if I can see anything useful there - like a client services address! I can't call them as I don't have a mobile. for those not in the know my ISP is one of the big ones here. I think it's a subsidiary/relation of AOL (I dunno if that is a Good Thing or not!) sandra pps. I submitted & got the following insistant message - in red!! ....................... Your post contains a forbidden HTML tag.Your post contains a forbidden HTML tag.Your post contains a forbidden HTML tag.Your post contains a forbidden HTML tag.Your post contains a forbidden HTML tag. .................... I assume that was referring to the source message as it contains cryptic bits in pointy brackets! I'll try to remove the pointy brackets & substitute hatches### & see what happens. this is fun (but then I do have a twisted sense of homour) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: ?404 not found /null? From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 27 Oct 03 - 07:39 AM Ozemail - who bought Powerup - so I'm stuffed too - :-) is/was part of the Worlcom Global Empire that went phut a while ago.. Robin |
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Subject: RE: Tech: ?404 not found /null? From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 27 Oct 03 - 07:49 AM we'll all be rooned said Hanrahan! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: ?404 not found /null? From: Chris Maltby Date: 27 Oct 03 - 09:09 PM Now that Sandra has posted the details of the error she is seeing, I'm inclined to believe it's some sort of error at Mudcat... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: ?404 not found /null? From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 27 Oct 03 - 10:20 PM A technician at my server played with it awhile. He also thinks the null is from Mudcat, but is not sure. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: ?404 not found /null? From: JohnInKansas Date: 28 Oct 03 - 04:09 AM Possibly applicable, even though Netscape has been mentioned as a browser where the problem sometimes occurs: Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 827667 "HTTP 404 - File Not Found" Error Message When You Try to Visit Web Pages That Are Opened by JavaScript Functions in Frames or in Windows SYMPTOMS After you apply the cumulative security patch for Internet Explorer that is included in Microsoft Security Bulletin MS03-032, you may receive the following error message when you try to visit Web pages that are opened by JavaScript functions in frames or in windows: HTTP 404 - File not found CAUSE This problem occurs because the cumulative security patch for Internet Explorer that is included in Microsoft Security Bulletin MS03-032 changes the base URLs of JavaScript functions to the direct scripting sites. If the JavaScript functions use relative URLs to open Web pages, this change will cause the URLs of the Web pages to be incorrect and you will receive the error message that is in the "Symptoms" section of this article. RESOLUTION A supported hotfix is now available from Microsoft, but it is only intended to correct the problem that is described in this article. Only apply it to systems that are experiencing this specific problem. This hotfix may receive additional testing. Therefore, if you are not severely affected by this problem, Microsoft recommends that you wait for the next Internet Explorer 6 service pack that contains this hotfix. To resolve this problem immediately, contact Microsoft Product Support Services to obtain the hotfix. For a complete list of Microsoft Product Support Services phone numbers and information about support costs, visit the following Microsoft Web site: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[LN];CNTACTMS Note In special cases, charges that are ordinarily incurred for support calls may be canceled if a Microsoft Support Professional determines that a specific update will resolve your problem. The usual support costs will apply to additional support questions and issues that do not qualify for the specific update in question. Prerequisites You must apply the cumulative security patch for Internet Explorer that is included in Microsoft Security Bulletin MS03-032 before you install this hotfix. For additional information, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 822925 MS03-032: August 2003 Cumulative Patch for Internet Explorer Note that this is a fairly old article, and that the "fix" that caused the problem was the August 2003 update. There has been at least one more IE update that may have fixed this as part of the upgrade. For WinXP and Win2K users, I'd recommend the IE6 upgrade, and then get it current to latest bulletins. (I have IE6 on my Win98 machine, but I use that one so seldom for web stuff that I can't really say whether it's a "recommended" update there.) Even if you use another browser, Windows has to have current IE to operate those other browsers. Since few people have the problem, I'd still be inclined to think it's coming from some server in your path to the 'cat, rather from mudcat, but I guess that's something to figure out - - - eventually. And since those who've been most affected seem to be up to date on everything else, it's just a "shot in the dark" that anyone may need IE updates. John |
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Subject: RE: Tech: ?404 not found /null? From: GUEST,Q Date: 28 Oct 03 - 02:57 PM Thanks, John, for the IE notes. I generally use and prefer Netscape, but I will use IE today and see if any 404 problems with Mudcat crop up. I switched to IE for this post, and notice that I will probably be posted as a Guest, although I just posted a message in Mudcat through Netscape and was recognized as a member. The frustration level has remained about the same since my last post to this thread. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: ?404 not found /null? From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 28 Oct 03 - 03:01 PM Guest in above post, but I think this one will put me as a member. I have not used the membership facilities. Odd! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: ?404 not found /null? From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 28 Oct 03 - 03:04 PM Yep, I was a Guest just for the one post at IE. Now IE also has restored my membership. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: ?404 not found /null? From: nutty Date: 28 Oct 03 - 03:17 PM I'm getting these problems with Netscape but am managing to overcome them. Netscape starts to load Mudcat but then the 404 message comes up. If I then use my back button Netscape usually continues to load normally (although on occassions I have had to use the back button two or three times). I then read the threads by using the right click - open in new window - which works normally and means that Netscape isn't having to refresh all the time. It's a little inconvenient but it works OK. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: ?404 not found /null? From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 29 Oct 03 - 06:45 AM Hello, again Unlike Q my frustration levels have risen. EVERY thread I try to read in Mudcat these days gets the 404 message & often more than once. So I'm not opening every thread that looks inbteresting and logging off earlier than I normally do! And then I got really pissed off tonight as I can't open Mudcat help. Last night I posted this thread & asked Joe & the other experts for their advice. Has anyone logged into help & seen if there is a reply? John - once again many thanks for the research & good advice. And once again, all the words are English but I don't understand it - I am a bear of small (computer/internet) brain! - but I'll send an email to Chris as I always do when I'm overwhelmed by complicated computer/internet stuff. Nutty - welcome! & thanks for the advice. sandra |
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Subject: RE: Tech: ?404 not found /null? From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 29 Oct 03 - 07:21 AM Hey, Nutty I've been following your advice - it works!! I love it & it ain't a hassle at all. sandra |
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Subject: RE: Tech: ?404 not found /null? From: JohnInKansas Date: 29 Oct 03 - 08:19 AM There is an indication that the error report seen here can result from an incorrect setting for a Proxy Server. This normally occurs only for communication on a LAN (Local network); but for some kinds of internet connection interfaces a Proxy may be set. In IE, click "Tools" and then "Internet Options." Click the "Connections" tab at the top. Click on the "LAN Settings" button at the bottom. In the settings screen that comes up, if there is no entry at the bottom, for "Proxy Server," then this doesn't apply. If you do have a Proxy Server checked on, look at the address entry and make sure there is NOT a "\," "/," or a blank space at the end of the address. Details at Microsoft KB article 296275 are vague on whether this might relate to your web connection; but the remote possibility is there. Another KB article, on which I have some notes but haven't been able to find again, indicated that the same sort of "extra \ or / or space, in script used on your ISP's server could cause the problem. Unfortunately, since there's not too much you can do about that, I didn't keep good enough notes. Apparently, when the extraneous character at the end of an address gets "read into" the script to make the actual connection, it can get translated into a \null or /null that looks like a non-existent folder identification to the server. It's a long shot - but simple to check and eliminate. John |
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Subject: RE: Tech: ?404 not found /null? From: JennyO Date: 29 Oct 03 - 09:06 AM Sandra, I can't get into Mudcat Help either. I think it must be down. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: ?404 not found /null? From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 30 Oct 03 - 07:04 AM Mudcat Help is working for me tonight - Joe Offer has passed this thread to Pene Azul for his consideration as he deals with heavy techo stuff. I had trouble even getting into Mudcat tonight - I clicked onto Mudcat in my Bookmarks & it started connecting & loading but before the home page showed up I got a 404 message. After a couple of tries I got in & right clicked on threads. sandra |
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Subject: RE: Tech: ?404 not found /null? From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 08 Nov 03 - 05:19 PM Problem with Mudcat on Netscape has disappeared. If someone at Mudcat helped, many, many thanks. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: ?404 not found /null? From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 09 Nov 03 - 07:18 AM Q - there are 2 threads explaining what happened - one on Mudcat (a BS thread), the other on Mudcat Help where did the ads go? http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=64240 404 thread http://help.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=2383&messages=29 everything is fine for me & for Nutty thanks (& now for you!!) thanks to Jeff's efforts sandra |
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