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Lyr Req: Let God Abide

Jerry Rasmussen 09 Nov 03 - 05:05 PM
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Subject: Lyrics: Let God Abide
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 09 Nov 03 - 05:05 PM

My group is learning Let God Abide from a recording by Robert Anderson. It's a wonderful recording, but it only has one verse to the song. I tried the DT lyrcis and forum search in here with no luck. Anybody have more verses to this song? or know of other available recordings?

Would appreciate it..

Jerry


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Let God Abide
From: Sorcha
Date: 09 Nov 03 - 05:45 PM

I didn't find anything, Jerry. Sorry.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Let God Abide
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 09 Nov 03 - 06:04 PM

Thanks for looking,looking, Sorcha..

Jerry


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Let God Abide
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Nov 03 - 06:29 PM

I have something-- have it for you later tonight.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Let God Abide
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Nov 03 - 06:45 PM

In the meantime, hear how it was recorded by the Harmonizing Four in 1950-1952 at Dovesong.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Let God Abide
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 09 Nov 03 - 08:36 PM

Thanks, Susan... I clicked on the Harmonizing Four and all I got was "This page cannot be displayed." Maybe that's because I've never made MP3's...

Jerry


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Subject: Lyr Add: LET GOD ABIDE (from Harmonizing Four)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Nov 03 - 09:23 PM

Dunno, Jerry, the link is working for me. Try: http://www.dovesong.com/MP3/MP3_Harmonizing4.asp

If still no joy, go to the main page--

www.dovesong.com

and find the links to black and southern gospel MP3s, and find the groups' pages.

Anyway-- I dug through my files... and....

Yep, I did have it already transcribed-- we're thinking of doing it too.

At Dovesong, you also can hear how the href="http://www.dovesong.com/MP3/MP3_Harvesters.asp">Harvesters Quartet did their one-verse, southern-gospel version in 1955.

Below are how I hear the two quartet's versions. (You may hear them a little differently in some places.) If you have a different version/verse, please post it. I'd welcome an additional verse-- an old and authentic one, or I may write one myself.

~S~

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LET GOD ABIDE, I
Harmonizing Four version, 1950-52

Verse 1:
If you are a witness, let God abide.
If you've been converted, let God abide.
And if you're sure you know Him, He will walk by your side
You'll get an answer to every problem, let God abide.

Verse 2:
When your loved ones deceive you, you just let God abide.
When friends don't believe you, oh let Him abide, now.
When storm clouds gather, or trouble betide,
You'll find God standing right by your side, hey, let Him abide.

REFRAIN (twice):
Within your soul (within your soul)
Within your soul (within your soul)
Within your soul (within your soul)
Deep down within (deep down within)
He'll hear your call; He'll never let you fall,
You'll get an answer to every problem, let God abide.


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LET GOD ABIDE, II
The Harvesters Quartet version, 1955

If you are a witness, let God abide.
If you're downhearted, let God abide.
If you're sure you know Him, He'll be right by your side.
Yes, you'll get an answer to every problem, let God abide.

REFRAIN (twice):
Within your soul (within your soul)
Within your soul (within your soul)
Within your soul (within your soul)
Deep down within (deep down within)
Oh He will hear your call; oh, He'll never let you fall,
Yes, you'll get an answer to every problem, let God abide.

SH


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Subject: Lyr Add: LET GOT ABIDE (from Robert Anderson)
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 09 Nov 03 - 10:04 PM

Thanks so much, Susan:

Here are the words on the Robert Andesron recording:

If you are a witness, won't you let God abide
If you've been converted, then let God abide
If you ever need him, walking by our side
You'll get an answer to every problem, If you let God abide

   Within your soul, within your soul
   Within your soul, deep down within
   He'lll hear your call. He'll never let you fall
   You'll get an answer to every problem, Let God abide.

The lead sings the chorus a second time and changes the last line to:

   You'll gain the victory to every problem, Let God abide

The lead also interchanges the word "trial" for "problem" a couple of times in the song.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Let God Abide
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Nov 03 - 10:22 PM

I think we ought to try adding another verse, and editing it all together. Maybe tomorrow I'll take a whack at it. Fun lead part, eh? It's very interesting moving a piece like this from quartet style to congregational singing.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Let God Abide
From: masato sakurai
Date: 09 Nov 03 - 10:23 PM

"Let God Abide" is on Harmonizing Four 1950-1955 (Heritage HT CD 29). Probably the same version as that at Dovesong.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Let God Abide
From: masato sakurai
Date: 10 Nov 03 - 05:33 AM

Also on Harmonizing Four : Where He Leads Me.


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Let God Abide
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 10 Nov 03 - 08:03 AM

Thanks to all... The Harmonizing Four are one of our main sources for material. Our bass singer Joe's sister dated one of the guys in the harmonizing four.. they all lived in the same area of Virginia, growing up. All the original members of the group have passed away, the last one dying two or three years ago.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Let God Abide
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Nov 03 - 08:47 AM

Jerry, did you listen to the other 2 recordings-- is there a substantial difference in style/tempo etc. for the Anderson version? Would you know when his version was recorded?

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Let God Abide
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 10 Nov 03 - 11:43 AM

Masato, and Susan:

Thanks, Masato... funny thing is, I realize that I have the CD you posted... bought it a while back and had misplaced it. But, I found it, and listened to it. The Harmonizing Four version is very smooth, with fine harmonies, as all of their stuff is, with a high tenor lead.
I haven't been able to play the other version you mentioned, Susan. The Robert Anderson version is on a CD from Specialty, which I highly recommend. It's called Greatest Gospel Gems, and is a Specialty Gospel Twofer, with two albums on one CD. The stock number is SP-2144 & 2145.

The CD often shows up on eBay, and I'm sure that you could pick it up at Amazon.com, or CDUniverse. It has several numbers by the Soul Stirrers, and other artists include Alex Bradford, Dorothy Love Coates and The Original Gospel Harmonettes, Brother Joe May, The Pilgrim Travelers, the Original Five Blind Boys of Alabama (who the Messengers are going to see, Dec. 1,) the Swan Silvertones and James Cleveland.

The Robert Anderson version is the one we'll build off of because it is at a slower pace, which allows the lead to do the song with a lot more freedom and power.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: Art "Rupe" (Goldberg) & Specialty Records
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Nov 03 - 02:10 PM

Is this the Specialty you're talking about?

~S~

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Art Rupee's Specialty Records
(source: http://www.history-of-rock.com/specialty.htm)

Art Rupe was born Arthur Goldberg September 5, 1917 in Greensburg, Pennsylvania to David and Anna Goldberg. David was a furniture salesman and Anna instilled into Art her love of music. In his youth Art listened to music sung at a local black Baptist church and love this music with it's rich traditions.

After attending Miami University in Oxford, Ohio Art left to Hollywood in July, 1939. After settling down in Los Angeles and attending UCLA Rupe decided he'd like to be involved in the entertainment industry. His first choice was the movies but, found it to be to clubby and hard to crack. He felt that the record business was more open to newcomers.

Art, (now using the more show bizzy sounding name, Rupe) became partners with Bob Scherman in Atlas Records in 1944. Atlas, though having Frankie Laine, Nat "King" Cole, and Johnny Moore's Three Blazers featuring Charles Brown under contract, had nary a hit and soon folded. Rupe lost his investment but, looked at his time at Atlas as an learning experience. That experience taught him that he couldn't complete with the major labels on their own turf   The majors had decided to forego the specialty and ethnic music markets because of the wartime shortage of shellac. For this reason Rupe decided to go into black popular music.

He took $200 and went down to Central Avenue in the black section of Los Angeles and bought race records. He made a analysis of each record, technically, musically, etc. so as determine why some were hits and others weren't.. Out of this he established a set of rules or principles that he was to use in making records.

Next he began looking for artists. Looking in after-hours clubs he found the Sepia Tones, a small group that fitted into his budget. During his research he had noticed that an inordinate number of successful records had the word "boogie" in the title, jukebox operators were the biggest customers for these race records and also acted as wholesalers for small independent companies. Boogie #1 was the first release on his Juke Box label. It sold 70,000 copies and enabled Rupe to record Marion Abernathy "The Blues Woman," Roosevelt Sykes "The Blues Man," and Roy Milton and His Solid Senders.

"Voo-it! Voo-it!" by the Blues Woman and "R.M. Blues" by Roy Milton were hits in 1946.

Al Middleman, who had co-owned Hit Records with Eli Oberstein, became partners in Rupe's Juke Box Label and Rupe became a partner in Middleman's Sterling label. Rupe soon found out that Oberstein, a talent chief for Victor Records, was a partner in Sterling and wasn't pleased.

To make a long story short Rupe sold his entire interest to Middleman and kept some masters which were recorded by his new label Specialty Records. Some of the masters included sides by the Sepia Tones, the Blues Man, the Blues Woman, Buddy Banks and Roy Milton.

Encouraged by Jules Bihari of R.P.M. Records Rupe started Specialty Records. The first office was located at 2719 W. 7th Street in Loa Angeles, California. Specialty moved to 311 Venice Boulevard in downtown Los Angeles in 1947. Venice Music was the name of Rupe's BMI publishing arm while Greenwich Music published ASCAP songs.

Roy Milton who had left Juke box records was persuaded by Rupe to come to Specialty. Right away they became successful on a par with Louis Jordan, the master of the jump blues. This success attracted other artists. Among them were Joe Lutcher who had a hit with "Rockin' Boogie" and Jimmy Liggins who had hits

In 1948 Rupe began recording gospel quartets. The Pilgrim Travers were the first and sold well. Rupe's memories of the black churches of his youth served him well as he recorded gospel greats such as the Soul Stirrers, The Swan Silvertones, Alex Branford, Brother Joe May, Sister Wynona Carr, the original Gospel Harmonettes, and the Chosen Gospel Singers.

Rupe's love of gospel music carried over to his taste in secular music and influenced his artist selections, such as Guitar Slim, Don and Dewey, and his biggest star Little Richard. It, too, influenced his approach to recording as he valued feeling over technique.

1949 saw the end of the recording ban. Among Specialty's hits was "The Hucklebuck" Joe Liggins who had hits with "The HoneyDripper" and "Got A Right to Cry" was signed to Specialty as his Exclusive label folded.

His first record with Specialty "Rag Mop" went to #4, followed by "Pink Champagne" was the #! record of 1950, as well as Specialty's first number one.

1951 saw more hits and Specialty switching to the 45 r.p.m. format.that had been introduced in 1949 by RCA . The independents were slower to change over as their market couldn't afford the new record players.

Impressed by rival Imperial Records Fats Domino Rupe decided to enter this new field in 1952. While on a talent hunt in New Orleans he discovered seventeen year old Lloyd Price. In Specialty's first recording session in New Orleans Rupe produced   Price singing "Lawdy Miss Clawdy" using Dave Bartholomew's Band which featured Fats Domino. "Lawdy Miss Clawdy" would be Specialty's third number one hit and would be among the first records to "cross over" and sell to both blacks and whites, setting the stage for rock and roll.

Late in 1953 Guitar Slim recorded "The Things I Used To Do." It became Specialty's fourth number one in early 1954. The year would end with Jimmy Liggin's his last and biggest hit "Drunk." Saleswise the year would be a disappointment.

1954 was a slow year as the market began to change as teenagers began making themselves known. Though Rupe had tried to tap into the teen market with Lloyd Price in 1952 nothing had hit nationally. However, Specialty did have a few regional hits.

Things became so bad in 1955 that Rupe, who detested it payola, finally broke down and began using it.

The end of 1955 saw the release of "Night Owl" by Tony Allen and "Tutti Fruiti" by Little Richard. "Tutti Fruiti" was exactly what the teenagers were looking for loud, spirited music with a beat, performed by a flamboyant singer who their parents wouldn't like. Little Richard would have fourteen top ten r&b and two top ten pop hits in eighteen months.

1956 Little Richard's follow up to "Tutti Fruiti"   "Long Tall Sally" was Specialty's fifth number one and first gold record. Rupe's publishing company, Venice music, thrived as all the big rock and roll stars recorded Little Richard songs.

1957 saw Little Richard's religious conversion and leaving Specialty. Rupe with the help of A&R Sonny Bono, were able to make a Little Richard clone out of Larry Williams. Williams, Lloyd Price's former valet, had hits with "Just Because," Short Fat Fannie," and "Bony Moronie." The last two made it to the top ten.

Sam Cooke dissatisfied with singing only gospel music wanted to sing pop.Rupe was afraid Specialty would lose of Cooke's gospel audience if he began releasing him singing pop.

The end of 1957 saw Specialty with three top ten records "Bony Moronie," "I'll Come Running Back to You," and "Keep A-Knockin'."

1958 saw Specialty's last Top Ten record "Good Golly Miss Molly, " a Little Richard master from 1956.

The lose of Little Richard, the break up of his marriage and the feeling he should have seen Sam Cooke's success and kept him under contract, along with the development of other business interests, caused Rupe to lose interest in the record business. Having made a lot of money from other interests, tired of music business headaches he turned the day-to-day operations over to others.

Rupe pursued his oil and land interests until he received a call from Little Richard in 1964. Richard who had only recorded gospel music unsuccessfully since leaving Specialty was considering recording secular music again. Also, Richard had been touring Europe with four British musicians who excited him called Rupe to see if he might interested in the group. The group was the Beatles. Rupe said no, but was interested in recording Richard if he was ready.

Richard recorded "Lama Bama Lama Loo'" which went nowhere. During that time he also recorded Don and Dewey and Percy Mayfield with even less luck.

In 1970 he reactivated his old catalog, releasing albums from time to time by classic, gospel and secular artists over the next twenty years until the company was sold to Fantasy Records in 1990.

"Uncle Art Rupe has formed a charitable foundation which he is currently running, among other things he's endowed a chair somewhere in the California University system dedicated to studying the impact of media on society. Extremely alive, still very active, no known health problems and hundred of projects from his charitable work to doing genealogical research about his ancestors----- might be because he has been a vegetarian for decades, never smoked --- or at least not during my lifetime and his always exercised moderately " .....


Specialty Records
(source: http://members.tripod.com/hoppula/labels.htm)

You just can't imagine what would the world of rock'n'roll look like if the Specialty Records had never existed? After forming in Los Angeles by Art Rupe (real name Arthur Goldberg) in 1946, it had raised to one of the leading independent companies, and had released a countless number of hit recordings over the years. The list seems to have no ending: Little Richard, Lloyd Price, Jimmy & Joe Liggins, Earl King, Don & Dewey, Larry Williams, Wynona Carr, Sam Cooke & the Soul Stirrers, Art Neville... Ain't no doubt what is the most important label of all-time, when it comes to black rock'n'roll, gospel and rhythm'n'blues. However, Rupe's career in music business started already in 1944 when he formed the Atlas Records with Robert Scherman, recording for instance Nat "King" Cole, Charles Brown and Frankie Laine. After a couple of months Rupe decided to set up his own label Juke Box Records. In 1946 Rupe sold his share to the company-partner Al Middleman, but kept the masters he had produced on Roy Milton, the Sepia Tones and the Buddy Banks Sextet, and that's when the Specialty Records got started.

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March 18, 1991, FANTASY, INC. ACQUIRES SPECIALTY LABEL
(source: http://www.fantasyjazz.com/html/specialty_acquisition.html)

Fantasy, Inc. has purchased the Specialty Records catalog, according to label president Ralph Kaffel, substantially enriching the Berkeley-based conglomerate's holdings in jazz, blues, and r&b.

"Specialty played as vital a role in the development of rhythm & blues and rock n' roll," Kaffel asserts, "as Prestige and Riverside [acquired by Fantasy in the early Seventies] did, each in its own way, in the development of jazz.

"It's primarily a roots catalog, a seminal catalog of tremendous importance," continues Kaffel, "and we intend to treat the music with the same sense of historical significance as we've accorded our jazz reissues, with the twofer and Original Jazz Classics series."

Founded by Art Rupe in Los Angeles in 1946, Specialty was one of the first post-war independent labels to specialize in black popular music. It was a pioneer in recording early stars of rock 'n' roll, rhythm & blues, and gospel such as Little Richard, Guitar Slim, Sam Cooke and the Soul Stirrers, Percy Mayfield, Lloyd Price, Joe Liggins, and the Original Gospel Harmonettes.

Specialty was essentially a singles label, however, and much of the music has been heard only on the original singles, which, of course, have been long unavailable. Kaffel estimates that less than ten percent of the catalog is currently available on Compact Disc.

"Over the next two or three years," Kaffel reports, "we plan to build a catalog of some 80 to 100 CDs that are truly representative of Specialty Records.

Chief reissue producer will be Billy Vera, bandleader and archivist, artist and fan, who over the last several years had compiled a number of reissues for Specialty. "After meeting with Ralph Kaffel," says Vera, "and seeing just what his plans for Specialty are, I'm convinced that Fantasy is the best possible home for the Specialty catalog."

The Specialty reissue program will aim to educate the consumer about the artists (through packaging, blurbs, etc.) in much the same way that the jazz buyer has come to rely on the OJCs (Original Jazz Classics) for an informed perspective on the music.

The Legends of Specialty series, which already includes extended compilations (20 to 25 cuts or more) by Percy Mayfield, Larry Williams, Jesse Belvin, Roy Milton, Jimmy Liggins, and Joe Liggins, will continue with new titles to be released this spring by Guitar Slim, Don & Dewey, Sam Cooke & the Soul Stirrers, Lloyd Price, Floyd Dixon, and Little Richard.

In addition to its acknowledged role in r&b, Specialty has been regarded as a leader in gospel recordings, and its extensive gospel catalog is considered to be one of the best extant. Debuting in 1992 will be the Legends of Gospel series, featuring CDs by the Soul Stirrers, Brother Joe May, the Swan Silvertones, and the Pilgrim Travelers, among others, as well as compilations.

CURRENTLY AVAILABLE TITLES


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Let God Abide
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 10 Nov 03 - 03:21 PM

It sure is, Susan... and the CDs are available at very good prices..

Jerry


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Subject: RE: Lyrics: Let God Abide
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Nov 03 - 03:41 PM

Well, I may have to break down and get a few. Our Archdeacon (sorta like Bishop's assitant) has made a nice contribution to our music ministry, to get more music to hear and learn.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Let God Abide
From: GUEST,Jermias Carter
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 10:19 PM

Hey Jerry The First Recording Group of Let God Abide is "Harmonizing Four" my uncle and i use to song the lead to it at church its a beautiful song to learn good luck to you all.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Let God Abide
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 08 Aug 04 - 09:01 AM

Hey, Jermais:

Time passes. And now, we are singing the lead, adding the second verse from the Harmonizing 4 version. We did the song at our 7th Anniversary concert a couple of months ago, and it is very powerful.

Jerry


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