Subject: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Mickey191 Date: 08 Dec 03 - 08:48 PM Who would you clone? No restrictions-public or private life. I'll be thinking--a democrat who could beat our (p)resident hands down. |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Bobert Date: 08 Dec 03 - 09:06 PM JFK: he'd carry 80% of the vote... Bobert |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Rapparee Date: 08 Dec 03 - 09:36 PM Ah, but a clone isn't the person cloned. Take JFK. Suppose that his brain, which was removed during the autopsy and lost, was found and further suppose that it was possible to obtain DNA of a quality and quantity sufficient for cloning. Let's suppose we did just that. Okay, now we have a young JFK, alike him down to the very chromosones. **But that clone cannot EVER grow into JFK, because that clone cannot have the same education, experiences, and so forth that the original had. JFK's father Joe and his mother Rose are dead, there would be no one to give the clone the same upbringing, nor would the clone commit the same good and bad acts that the original committed. The clone could not meet and marry Jaqueline Bouvier. The clone could not serve on PT boats in WW2. And that is just a few, a very few, of the experiences that defined the first JFK that could not define the clone. In short, a perfect physical copy cannot be a perfect psychological/social/sociological/philosophical copy.** Sorry 'bout that. |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: kendall Date: 08 Dec 03 - 09:40 PM Harry Truman |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Rapparee Date: 08 Dec 03 - 10:14 PM Kendall's right. |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Sam L Date: 08 Dec 03 - 10:51 PM me--send the thing to work my absurd futile day jobs for me. my wife--better odds of getting her in bed. my kids--they're pretty good kids. |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Mickey191 Date: 08 Dec 03 - 11:13 PM Rapaire & all: This is Hollywood cloning-the exact duplicate, education,socialability,intellect,nuances & even his tics. It's like Arnold. Only real. Kendall, I thought of HST too. Love the story of his return, as Mr. Citizen, to Independence. The Limo driver wanted to take his suitcase into the house, and HST refused. Said to the driver, "I'm just a regular citizen now, I'll carry my own bag." He was as down to earth & honest as they come. |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Dec 03 - 11:14 PM My main objection to Truman was he okayed the dropping of two atomic bombs on people, but...he was a pretty good president anyway. I would clone Spaw and send him to Ohio to harass the original Spaw and challenge him to a fart-lighting contest. This would probably result in most of the American midwest being scorched right off the map, after which Canada could invade and occupy the rest of the USA, and give the best parts back to the Indians. That would be a nice start, I think... I would spare the Atlanta area, though, having visited there recently. They are nice people! - LH |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Bill D Date: 08 Dec 03 - 11:19 PM ...well...not easy. But speaking of someone who was as honest as they come, and maybe brighter than HST , I would like to give Barbara Jordan another run at it all..(and 200 more choices I could have picked.) |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 09 Dec 03 - 12:42 AM I would clone myself so I'd finally have a decent rhythm guitarist to play with. |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: DonMeixner Date: 09 Dec 03 - 01:18 AM Totally of topic and purely philosophical I have wondered.... If you cloned yourself, then dropped the correct X or Y and then had intercourse with the resulting clone would it be masterbation or incest? Don |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Nigel Parsons Date: 09 Dec 03 - 05:31 AM "If I could clone somebody, as I pass along....." |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: mooman Date: 09 Dec 03 - 06:02 AM ...I still wouldn't! Peace moo |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: kendall Date: 09 Dec 03 - 07:44 AM There are two schools of thought on the bomb, LH. The one he went by was thaT it would save a million lives by making an invasion of the Japanese homeland unnecessary. We must judge a man by his time, not ours. The other thought, it was the quickest and best way to end the war and keep Russia from invading Japan. As it was, they took the Kuriel Islands. |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: GUEST Date: 09 Dec 03 - 07:52 AM Bach |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: JedMarum Date: 09 Dec 03 - 09:58 AM Ronald Reagan |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Little Hawk Date: 09 Dec 03 - 11:03 AM Yep, I know, Kendall. Have discussed it many times on this forum. I think a Japanese surrender could have been secured readily without use of either the A-bombs or an invasion...by simply assuring the safety of the Emperor. The Japanese were seeking a negotiated settlement, and were in no position to continue fighting effectively, quite regardless of A-bombs. The Russian attack shocked them considerably more than the A-bombs did. One never needs "unconditional" surrender to end a shooting war, one merely needs one side that wants a way out of continued hostilities that it knows it cannot win. Truman, of course, was seeing it through the eyes of his own time, so I'm not sure what he may have thought about the possibilities. - LH |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Bill D Date: 09 Dec 03 - 11:40 AM "Ronald Reagan" ...they did...they named it Bonzo, and it starred in a movie with him. |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: DonMeixner Date: 09 Dec 03 - 11:57 AM Jed, I gotta disagree with you on Ronald Reagan. In all honesty the last Presodent I voted for and was sure it was the right vote to cast was when I voted for Gerald Ford. The man never got the chance to prove his worth. Based on how he handled the Mayaguez situation and the fact that he was willing to try and heal the nation at the cost of his political future makes me want him on my side and in charge. Don |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: John MacKenzie Date: 09 Dec 03 - 12:46 PM Hairy Arse Truman sounds like a good idea, although Korea raises doubts in my mind. There is a guy this side of the pond that I'd like to clone. His name is Nicholas Van Hoogstraten, and he has just been released from jail where he has spent 1 year of a 10 year sentence for manslaughter. He was released because the court said that he wasn't to know that the two hit-men he hired to frighten a business rival would actually kill him. The fact that he is most obnoxious, slimy, and arrogant person I've ever heard of, you may wonder why I want him cloned, and this is why. SO I CAN CASTRATE THE BASTARD TWICE!! Giok |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Jeri Date: 09 Dec 03 - 01:08 PM I have a feeling that if some of the above named dead guys came back, we'd get to see less of the fallen heroes and successes and more of the mortal, vulnerable humans. We often look into the past with rose-tinted glasses or shit-smeared ones, and many people get categorized as good or bad without much of a chance for them to land in between. Add to that the fact that the press these days tends to print any dirt, major or minor, that it can find, and people tend to think that's just fine. I'd like to say Martin Luther King, but I fear scandal might have overcome him. I'd like to say JFK, but you know, his exploits today would make the big deal over Bill & Moncica seem like not so much a molehill but a pimple on a dust mite's butt impersonating a mountian. Ghandi maybe, but I think they'd stick him on a talk show or Fox news 'interview', not let him get a word in edgewise, and ridicule the hell out of him. I can't think of any political figure I'd like to see make a return visit. I'd rather pick family and friends I've lost, but probably still wouldn't. The candles of our lives are only meant to burn for a short while. If we take care of that flame, it burns as bright as possible for as long as possible, or we can just let the winds of fate make it sputter or simply blow it out. It's because we know we have only one chance to be the best 'whomever' that we can do great things. If Truman knew he was coming back, might he have said "Nah - I'll be president next life. This one, I fish!" |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Bobert Date: 09 Dec 03 - 01:22 PM I have reconsidered my choice... Yeah, my first thought was JFK but you know in these times with the right wing so interested in the sex lives of their opponents, I think the biggest loss's to the progressive movement were BobbY Kennedy and Martin Luther King. It's a close one for me but if I'm thinking strictly electability, it's Bobby. But if I'm thinking of socail institutions and the way people get (or not) along with each other, it's Martin... With the absolute disgust I have with the way our citizens have become so narcsistic and meanspirited, it's Martin Luther King. The nation would further down the road toward being *civil*ized had we not lost this man, his compassion, his vision and his love... Bobert |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Little Hawk Date: 09 Dec 03 - 06:56 PM Bobby Kennedy sounds good to me. Martin Luther King also. I would also like to clone Bob Dylan at age 22, but this time NOT smoking, and see how much longer he stayed young looking and how well his voice held up. Joni Mitchell as a nonsmoker would be interesting too, though God knows she has done superbly despite the mountain of cigarettes she has consumed! Then there's Warren Zevon. All kinds of possibilities. - LH |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: JedMarum Date: 09 Dec 03 - 09:44 PM Jesus - because I'd like to meet him. Martin Little, my great grandfather - because I'd like know him. Jed Marum - because I could tell hime what to watch out for over the next 40 years (and he'd believe me). |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Amos Date: 09 Dec 03 - 09:55 PM Little Hawk: The Japanese were not overtly seeking settlement; there was a major division between the internal power cliques -- between the militant Japanese and those who, along with the Emperor, wanted to settle. The militants believed they could force a guerilla war in the islands which would still have a chance. A |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Charley Noble Date: 09 Dec 03 - 10:29 PM So let's clone Jeri since she's the only one who's really making any sense, and we probably would all agree to that. Then let's clone my electrician and my plumber so they have time to redo all the work that I've screwed up in this building. Cheerily, Charley Ipcar |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Little Hawk Date: 10 Dec 03 - 12:03 PM Yes, Amos, the militants were willing to sacrifice every last man, woman, and child in Japan to save their "honour" and serve their emperor. Their emperor, however, had other ideas...and would have brought the whole stupid thing to an end...as he did anyway...quite regardless of A-bombs and/or invasion. That is my opinion. All that was necessary for the Allies to do was to continue blockading Japan, bombing their key industries (not their civilian population) and letting the breakdown of the Japanese economy and the subsequent loss of face of the military before the Japanese public do its inevitable work. Their navy did not have enough fuel (or ships) left to mount any kind of offensive operation. Their airplane squadrons were mostly grounded...and the paltry number still able to fight effectively were being overwhelmed by massively superior American forces. Their army was pinned down in defensive postions, incapable of launching offensive operations. They were seeking negotiation. A prince had been sent to Moscow to feel out contacts with the West. Stalin was not interested in helping him, because Stalin was planning to attack Japan shortly. To demand "unconditional surrender" of an enemy who would certainly be interested in seeking a conditional one is...in my opinion...a sort of war crime in itself. It smacks of arrogance and brutality. It was an American tradition begun by Ulysses S. Grant in the Civil War, and it is not one that I admire. It causes many thousands of unnecessary deaths to no purpose, just so the victor can strut and preen over the body of his absolutely destroyed and humiliated opponent when the slaughter is finally over. There is no f**king excuse for it whatsoever. The time to end a war is when one side sees it cannot win anymore, not when the last town has been invaded and the last city burned to the ground. If people had been this unrealistic in 1918, the First World War would have ended in the rubble of Berlin rather than on the Western Front...and another million people would have died. - LH |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Amos Date: 10 Dec 03 - 12:45 PM Terribly sorry, LH, but I sympathize with those who demanded unconditional surrender; the extent of the atrocities that began with Pearl Harbor is untallied even unto this time. It was little enough to require. A |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Little Hawk Date: 10 Dec 03 - 05:29 PM Okay, Amos, so we agree to disagree on this one... Here's another observation: All supposedly "unconditional" surrenders turn out, in real life, to actually be conditional! The victorious force first shows its utter hatred and contempt for the opponents by demanding unconditional surrender. The opponents react predictably with rage, bitterness, and contempt in return, dig in, and fight longer and harder than they might have done (partly because they fear the results of surrendering unconditionally to the uncertain mercies of their enemy). After much unnecessary bloodshed, things finally get so awful and hopeless for the weaker force that ANY end seems better than continuing the fight. They agree to surrender unconditionally. What happens then? Well, the shooting stops. Envoys are sent either way, and the commanders or their representatives agree to meet...and discuss...THE CONDITIONS!!!! Yes, the conditions. Even at that point, hostilities may in fact resume if the conditions turn out to be utterly unacceptable to the surrendering force. It could have happened in '45, and the Allies feared that it might...thus MacArthur quietly guaranteed the safety of the Emperor to the Japanese, and that he would not be brought to trial. Unconditional surrender is propaganda bullshit intended to make the populace of the winning side feel that they have won an allmighty and total victory, and to make the populace of the losing side feel lower than the belly of a snake. The Indians at Wounded Knee were also obliged to surrender "unconditionally", after the soldiers kind of ran out of moving bodies to shoot at, I guess. Regarding the atrocities committed by Japan, yes...they were many and despicable. No argument there. But that is not essentially what the war was about. It was about competing spheres of influence, and it was being anticipated by Japan and America for a long time before it actually happened. It was, in fact, virtually inevitable. The only question was...when? - LH |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Bobert Date: 10 Dec 03 - 05:48 PM Jed Marum: I'll have to change my mind once again. Yes, Jesus, though Johnny Ashcroft would have Him locked up in heartbeat... Bobert |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Bill D Date: 10 Dec 03 - 06:46 PM as a matter of fact, I'd like to see Jesus too, as some questions need to be answered...if theology is correct, though, cloning is not necessary! (and Ashcroft might do down in history like Pontius Pilate) |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Little Hawk Date: 10 Dec 03 - 09:54 PM Jesus gets my vote too, although it is possible to meet him non-physically...but physically is easier for most people to relate to, so it gets my vote. - LH |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Little Hawk Date: 10 Dec 03 - 09:55 PM Oh, and I would like to clone Cleopatra. She was one interesting woman! Dejah Thoris would be worth cloning too, if one could find any genetic material from her... |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Don Firth Date: 11 Dec 03 - 03:58 PM Franklin Delano Roosevelt, thirty-second President of the United States. Intelligent, strong personality, eloquent speaker, and he actually cared about the state of the country, particularly the rank-and-file citizenry. When he took office in 1933, the country was in the Dumpster. This was the result of twelve years under the Republican administrations of Warren G. Harding, Calvin ("The business of America is business.") Coolidge , and Herbert Hoover. The stock market crash, brought about by wild speculation, graft and corruption, not unlike the Enron sorts of things that seem to be epidemic today, occurred during Hoover's administration. What is known as The Great Depression followed (spawning many songs by Woody Guthrie). Brief description of the causes of the Depression HERE (some of this sound kinda familiar?). And HERE is a longer essay on the causes Depression for those who wish to go into it more deeply. In a nutshell, one of the major causes was the increasing disparity between the rich and what had been the middle class, but was swiftly becoming "the poor." Profits were steadily increasing, wages steadily decreasing. Read the history of the union movement leading up to this period. Bloody revolution was not that far away. Roosevelt set about putting the country back on track and putting people back to work. Two of his programs are described HERE and HERE (the Library of Congress Archive of American Folk Song was set up under the aegis of the WPA). He also started the "old age pension," which later became known as Social Security. And every week, he explained exactly what he was doing and why he was doing it on his "Fireside Chat" radio program. Finally, there was someone in charge who was actually concerned with people, and he wasm't just talking, he was actually fixing the problems. His political adversaries carped every inch of the way, screaming such words as "Socialism" and "Communism," and later critics, revising history, tried to claim that he ended the Depression by getting us into World War II. But by December 7, 1941 (Pearl Harbor attack), the Depression was pretty well over and the country was functioning reasonably well. Perhaps for the first time. Yep. We need him again. Don Firth |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Peace Date: 11 Dec 03 - 05:06 PM William Wallace. Scots, wha hae wi . . . . |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Benjamin Date: 11 Dec 03 - 06:27 PM I'll go with Abraham Lincoln. Honestly, the more I learn about the presidents we've had (especially in the past century) he's the only guy who I would really want to have in office. |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 11 Dec 03 - 09:20 PM The interesting thing would be to clone some real historical nightmare, and see if they mightn't turn out to be decent human beings in different circumstances and with different influences. |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Amos Date: 11 Dec 03 - 09:33 PM Dejah THORIS? Cloning dreams???? Oh, LH, you're opening a wide door, there!!! I accept your argument about conditions; unconditional surrender is clearly a token, while in fact there are always conditions being renegotiated through time. I merely meant that it is entirely understandable, after all they went through during the war, to want to enforce an unconditional surrender, even though it might have been unrealistic. People want their fears and trials and suffering to be acknowledged. A |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Clinton Hammond Date: 11 Dec 03 - 10:19 PM Myself... So I'd have a guaranteed match for organ and tissue donation... |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: GUEST Date: 11 Dec 03 - 10:37 PM Natalie Wood, over and over. And we'd buy our own little town in the middle of nowhere. All of us. |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Little Hawk Date: 11 Dec 03 - 10:38 PM Clinton, that is f**king brilliant! Hats off to you, sir. :-) My latest idea is: Clone George Bush...two or three times...and send 'em all to the White House posthaste. The ensuing power struggle would devastate the Republican Party, rip the USA into pieces, and leave the rest of the World free to engage in peaceful trade and have a gay old time (in the old sense of the word). - LH |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: wysiwyg Date: 12 Dec 03 - 12:01 AM Hm....... welllll............, If you clone someone and then bump off the copy, izzit still murder? ~S~ |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Little Hawk Date: 12 Dec 03 - 12:05 AM Yes. The intent is still there, and that's what counts. |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: GUEST Date: 12 Dec 03 - 11:51 AM The greedy, serve the world answer is probably pretty ghoulish. Most clones, without the experience of their counterparts would probably be pretty useless replacements. Their organs, limbs etc could be used without expecting the same thoughts, beliefs and abilities as the original. I'd clone Stephen Hawkings body both to help the existing man (if possible) and to learn more about the desease that cripples him. I'd clone severe accident victems: Christopher Reeve comes to mind as a valiant man trapped unfairly in a prison of his own flesh. My mind recoils at the ethics of growing a brain-dead clone but unless you have a mind\experience transfer machine I don't see the point of clones otherwise. If you can take for granted a mind\experience transfer machine why not a cell retraining rejuvination machine -- equally improbable. One area Cloning would really screw things up is in Royal Lineages. What would Prince Charles have to say about his 'birth right' faced with a clone of Queen Victoria? What would Russia say to a clone of Czar Nicholas? or Egypt to a clone of Ramses 2 (which I gather is a comparatively reasonable proposition?) bo |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Peter T. Date: 12 Dec 03 - 07:38 PM Audrey Hepburn. yours, Peter T. |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Amos Date: 12 Dec 03 - 07:59 PM It is immediately clear that time-tags would have to be incorporated into identities starting with a definitive point in the multiplying process, the "birth" date of the cloned entitiy. Thus the "Victoria Regina August 2005" would have no more claim on Charles' legacy than a normally born descendant of Victoria's born on that day (if such could exist). I'd be curious about Cleopatra. Maybe John Kennedy Jr. Wouldn't it be interesting to resurrect the unkillable Rasputin? A |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Clinton Hammond Date: 12 Dec 03 - 08:26 PM "the unkillable Rasputin" He was obviously NOT unkillable... Heh |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: DonMeixner Date: 12 Dec 03 - 08:36 PM Dejah Thoris, why not Dian the Beautiful too. And maybe a Zitadar or a Thoat? Don |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Peace Date: 13 Dec 03 - 12:56 AM My gawd, someone who read the ERB John Carter of Mars series. (Can't remember, was it 10 or 11 books, Don?) |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: DonMeixner Date: 13 Dec 03 - 01:50 AM Bruce, I read everything available by ERB except the Tarzan stories. He was truly an elegant hack when it came to writing. There must be at least 8 of the Mars stories, as many Pellucidar stories, 4 Carson of Venus. The Mad King, The Outlaw of Torn, Beyond The Farthest Star, The Mucker I & II were probably my favorites. Don |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: ard mhacha Date: 13 Dec 03 - 05:02 PM My old Labrador he`s on the way out, 14 years of faithful friendship. Ard Mhacha. |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: GUEST,Rasputin Date: 13 Dec 03 - 06:09 PM No, Clinton, but I was damned near unkillable. And how can you be totally sure I am gone forever? Be careful when out late at night. They didn't call me "The Mad Monk" for nothing. |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Don Firth Date: 14 Dec 03 - 02:43 PM A highly placed executive in a multi-national corporation found himself busy to the point of exhaustion, so he contacted a super-secret biotechnology laboratory within the corporation's many holdings and told them that he wanted them to clone him—make a duplicate who could take over some of his duties. He needed the full-grown double as quickly as possible. The biotech laboratory told him that although a clone would normally grow up at the same rate as its "starter" species, they did have a newly developed acceleration process and could produce a fully-grown duplicate within a few months. There were potential problems, however. They couldn't guarantee certain personality traits of the clone. The executive decided to take the chance, let them take a sample of his DNA, and told them to go ahead with the project—supply him with an exact duplicate, ASAP. Three months later, much to his relief, because business trips, meetings, and other duties were running him ragged, he was introduced to his clone. He was amazed. An identical twin, who had been imprinted with all of the necessary memories and knowledge, ready and eager to take over whatever duties he was assigned. For the first few weeks, everything worked beautifully. Since only a very few people were aware of its existence, almost no one knew they were dealing with a clone and not the executive himself, and the executive was even able to take a few days off to rest up, and actually get in a couple rounds of golf. But—strange things began happening. People began looking at him peculiarly, and a few even shied away from him. Discreet inquiries turned up that the clone, although in most respects undetectable, had a definite personality quirk. The clone was very "handsy" around women in the company, came on to just about every woman he came in contact with, and had an extremely foul mouth. He told dirty jokes at highly inappropriate times and sprinkled his conversations and—worse yet!—speeches with four-letter words. The executive, deeply concerned for his personal reputation, spoke firmly to the clone. The clone listened for a moment, then told him in no uncertain terms to "f**k off," turned on his heel, and walked out of the office. One thing led to another, and since almost no one in the corporation knew about the clone, they naturally assumed that this was the behavior of the original. And it was getting worse by the day! There were even discreet inquiries and ominous murmurs from the Board Room. So the executive decided that he had to take drastic action. He met the clone in a fifteenth floor conference room and gave him a direct order to keep his hands to himself and put a guard on his mouth. The clone told him to go screw himself, and started to leave the room. The executive predicted this reaction and as the clone pushed past him, he stuck his foot out, tripping him, and simultaneouslly gave him a hard push. As planned, the clone toppled out an open window and hurtled fifteen floors to the street below. Homicide Detective Lieutenant Sherlock Columbo was completely baffled at first, but being a wily fellow and highly experienced, he ferreted out information here and poked around there, and it didn't take him long to determine exactly what had happened and why. He went to arrest the executive. But the executive laughed at him. "No one," he said, "has been murdered. Everyone identifies the corpse as me, but I am still here. You can't even charge me with suicide, because I am still alive!" Frustrated, Detective Sherlock Columbo wiped his nose, chewed the stump of his cigar, palmed his forehead, and squinted out the window for a moment. Then he turned and said, "Well, it's true, I guess, that I can't charge you with murder. But at least you are not going to get away with this completely. There is a crime I can charge you with." "Oh, yeah?" said the executive with a smirk. "And what crime might that be?" "Making an obscene clone fall." Okay . . . I'll go quietly. . . . Don Firth |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Art Thieme Date: 14 Dec 03 - 03:49 PM Remember Clarabelle on the old Howdy Doody TV show??? I'd do him so he could be the first clown clone. Art |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Peace Date: 14 Dec 03 - 04:44 PM Don, I read the Tarzan stuff, too. I tried to reread one a few years ago, got to page 12 and stopped. But, the were wonderful when I was a young kid. I read the Carson of Venus, and could never really understand why the 'series' stopped. Thanks for reminding me of some fond memories. |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: GUEST,rock chick Date: 14 Dec 03 - 05:33 PM my partner, the thought of two of him would be mind blowing, i would never get to work, ;0))))))))) |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Little Hawk Date: 14 Dec 03 - 05:48 PM The Edgar Rice Burroughs books make wonderful reading in early adolescence, and are very imaginative, but they are too silly in later years. I read virtually every one of them, and liked the "John Carter of Mars" series the best, with Tarzan a close runner-up. - LH |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Mickey191 Date: 14 Dec 03 - 11:56 PM Don, People seem to be ignoring both you & your story. I thought it was great! Well, maybe not great....I'm prone to exageration. How about amusing? No, it was funny! |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: GUEST,JTT Date: 15 Dec 03 - 03:38 AM Isn't it depressing that virtually all of the clones chosen are male? I'd clone the mammy. |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: GUEST Date: 15 Dec 03 - 12:46 PM I'm very sorry about your Labrador, Ard. That's tough. -Guest. |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Don Firth Date: 15 Dec 03 - 01:18 PM Thanks, Mickey191. One tries. . . . Don Firth |
Subject: RE: BS: If You Could Clone Someone.... From: Charley Noble Date: 16 Dec 03 - 09:14 AM The reference above to "Edgar Rice Burroughs books" reminds me of the fun we used to have taking turns reading them aloud. The point was to catch the reader when he had "departed" from the text, whereupon the successful challenger would continue the read. Given Burroughs exaggerated prose, catching someone digressing was not an easy task to do. Cheerily, Charley Noble |