Is modern music shite?

Subject: RE: Is modern music shite?
From: FJGI
Date: 15 Dec 03 - 07:45 AM

I think modern music is not shite. But commercial music could be shite.
Music industry is looking for MONEY (logic) and secure investment. Promotion = 99% of success; Frequently, talented musicians are not the most important.....
Francisco


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Subject: RE: Is modern music shite?
From: Helen
Date: 15 Dec 03 - 04:20 PM

FJGI,

I think you are right, there. When money becomes the prime focus then the music becomes second best.

Warning to thread-creeps! Go and find your own thread. Enough is enough. Either discuss the topic and let us discuss it, or go somewhere else, please.

Helen

Subject: RE: Is modern music shite?
From: Peace
Date: 15 Dec 03 - 05:01 PM

Lotsa tough-guy talk here. I am impressed.

Subject: RE: Is modern music shite?
From: Peter Woodruff
Date: 15 Dec 03 - 05:35 PM

Did someone ask? Is this post shite? I most imfatically agree! Music and poetry and science and metaphysical studies move on! "If you you can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen."
                                        Some past American President.


Peter Woodruff

Subject: RE: Is modern music shite?
From: Sweetfia
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 07:38 AM

I hate it when threads turn like this (i'm not talkin about people who have posted posts relating to the title of the thread).

Subject: RE: Is modern music shite?
From: Peace
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 10:36 AM

The posting posters posted posts,
Some with meekness, some with might;
And what remains amuses most:
The thread itself has turned to shite.

Subject: RE: Is modern music shite?
From: Peg
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 10:54 AM

well, coming rather late to the thread, I must say, most of the "popular" music (Top 40) I hear on the radio does very little for me. Even interesting artists like Tori Amos and Liz Phair have allowed this smooth electronic pop soundalike stuff to permeate what were once very original-sounding songs. When we talk about "popular" music now we tend to mean those bands and their songs that pretty much all sound alike: similar use of meoldy and rhythm, similar singing styles (just now the over-ornamented psuedo-gospel of American Idol imitating Mariah Carey and Celine Dion is the popular thing; I am very very sick of good singers who are unable to get an original sound out of their throats...but being young maybe they will find their true voice at some point), and, perhaps more than anything, similar production values. I think it is production more than anything which typifies an era of recorded music, especialy since music started being so much more about electronics, starting in the 1970s. Think fo what a "different" sound the Beach Boys had. The songs were sometimes a bit silly (Surfer Girl) but no one could deny the production was absolutely brilliant.
I think there are some very talented songwriters and performers today working in a number of different popular genres, from folk to rock to disco, many of whom have shown some interesting growth over the years, like Dave Matthews, Paula Cole, Paul Weller, David Bowie, Peter Gabriel, Kate Bush, Neil Finn, Mike Scott, etc. I think some of the best bands of the last twenty years include some very experimental groups like Dead Can Dance, the Cocteau Twins, the Cure, Basque, Splashdown, Afro-Celt Sound System, and more "traditional" (in terms of rock/pop) ones like the Waterboys, Crowded House, the Jam, etc.
I think some of the most exciting contemporary music now is coming out of Scandinavia, where vibrant young groups are combining traditional and new sounds and instruments together to create a stunning body of work, like Garmarna, Hedningarna, Vartina, etc.

And I still think some of the contemporary/"traditional" bands out of Ireland and Scotland are terrific...

What the heck does "modern" mean anyway?

Subject: RE: Is modern music shite?
From: PoppaGator
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 03:22 PM

There is vital new original music being made everywhere in the world, but most of the world (especially the industrial "first" world) only gets to hear a small and very mediocre slice of it.

In the early 1970's, I became disgusted with mass-media popular music, dismayed to witness the sudden end of an era when terrific and, yes, revolutionary music had begun to find its way to a wide public via album-length recordings and FM radio.

That's when I moved to New Orleans, which has always had its own local music scene, and just quit listening to the watered-down crap promoted and promulgated throughout the outside world. Here, new music and new approaches to playing are emerging all the time, most of it quite beautiful and exciting, but very little of it ever emerging into national or international consciousness.

I've had the pleasure of witnessing performances by some of the most talented and expressive musicians ever to walk the earth -- some of whom you've heard of (or *should* have heard of), others who will sadly never be known outside their families and neighborhoods.

So -- I know that there is contemporary music that is wonderful. But -- most of that stuff being sold to us via the public airwaves? Shite, indeed!

PS: If you've got a high-speed connection, a sound card and speakers, you can hear some of what I'm talking about, any hour of the day or night, 24/7, at:

www.wwoz.org

Subject: RE: Is modern music shite?
From: Cluin
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 11:05 PM

Well, Sweetfia, John from Hull pretty much set the tone for this thread right from the beginning. It's not surprising how it's turned out.

I hold with the "95% of everything is crap" observation. Still I find myself sounding more and more like my father every year concerning what "the kids" are listening to these days. I've tried, really tried to keep an open mind but it just seems I'm becoming more and more jaded and ornery. I also seem to listen to less music of all kinds overall these days. I find I can go a whole day without turning on the stereo or TV and not miss it at all. Not like my younger days at all when I always had to have some background noise going on.

Subject: RE: Is modern music shite?
From: Pete_Standing
Date: 06 Jan 04 - 08:17 AM

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Subject: RE: Is modern music shite?
From: GUEST,Dr.Quelch
Date: 06 Jan 04 - 08:26 AM

Here is a undeniable truth. Crap is shite.

Subject: RE: Is modern music shite?
From: GUEST,Bobjack
Date: 06 Jan 04 - 08:28 AM

Having just read most of the above thread I now find myself exhausted! I am so glad that I am a Guinea Pig and not a human, we in piggy land have little or no access to computers, and long may it remain so.