BS: Ladies you are under arrest

Subject: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 07:31 PM

I'm watching CNN just now and they show a woman being led away in handcuffs for selling a vibrator to under cover narcotic officers. Yes narcotic officers. No there were no drugs in the vibrators. They just go bzzzzzzz.

Now I realize that the $4 billion for homeland security has given us free duct tape advice and 300,000 extra doses of the wrong flu vaccine but a crack down on the sale of vibrators????

The woman arranged private tupperware like parties to sell the vibrators and was registered with the chamber of congress etc.
Undercover narcs for vibrators????????

In other news the morning after pill manufacturers are seeking permission to go over the counter.

Dallas police scam exposed: Here's how it worked...Cops got extra money based on the weight of drugs confiscated divided by a street value formula. So the cops got convicted drug pushers to give 5lb bags of crushed billard chalk to illegal aliens and set up a sale sting. The aliens were arrested the "drugs" weighed and the checks were given out. On top of that...
Most of the checks that were signed turned out to be forgeries.
Then the Mexicans were duly sentenced to long prison sentences.

Well the police dept. said it was all done by a lone patrolman...and he was found innocent.

What the police did not count on was one Mexican family using all their savings for a lawyer. At least we are all a bit safer from killer billiard chalk... and vibrators?

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Gareth
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 07:34 PM

"Texas justice" has always been an Oxy-Moron.

Sorry - I mean "American Justice" has always been an Oxy- Moran.

Would any US of A 'Catter comment ?

Gareth

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 07:50 PM

Sold to a minor, right?

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: artbrooks
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 07:56 PM

Respond to an open invitation to attend a yank-bashing, eh? Would someone care to provide a link to these stories? I don't believe that a comment is appropriate without the full story.

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 08:00 PM

Maybe they could claim that these are in a sense a kind of artificial arm, and therefore protected by the Second Amendment?

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: curmudgeon
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 08:07 PM

Not a minor, but free adults. Remember, this is Texas. How much would Mexico charge to take it back?

Oh yes, here's the link -- Tom

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: artbrooks
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 08:13 PM

So, its against the law in Texas to sell them the way she was doing, and she was charged with a misdemeanor. So? Maybe she should have checked the law first.

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 08:40 PM

Well, it's about time, dangit. Vibrators! Shoot, women! No, don't shoot the women... Ahhhh, Like, okay, how am I gonna say this without Tom Ridge 'er some danged feminist with hair growin' out of her armpits longed that Saddam recent beard? Come on, Bobert, spit it out... Okay, womenz. Here goes. You live in the stud capital of the universe right here in that land of NASCAR and Budweiser... You don't need no vibrators in the good ol' US of A. No sir... All you need to do is, ahhh, fetch me a danged beer and turn the channel on to the 24/7 NASCAR TV station an' ol me 'ill get 'round to that stud stuff later, ya hear?

Geeze? Vibrators? Next thing ya' know these womenz is gonna want the right to vote....

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 08:53 PM

More'n that, Bobert. They's startin' to ask fer shoes an' lots of 'em don't wanna be pregnant alla time, too.

Oh, wait. That's Texas.

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 09:24 PM

various parts of the South have aspects of their culture, habits and morés that are fascinating to study, but I am sure I would not DARE to live there, as I would get myself run out of town, or worse. (Yeah, I know...not everyone in Texas agrees with that stupid law, but enough do that they HAVE the law!)

Texas, in general, is just bigger, richer and pushier about 'their' idiosyncracies. And they write and enforce laws that make news....

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 09:27 PM

Stupid law. Sorry the nice lady got arrested, but sometimes the publicity that comes from otherwise innocent people getting arrested for breaking stupid laws is what's needed to get the stupid laws repealed.

Bruce

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: DougR
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 09:29 PM

Geeze. Any of you folks that are so critical of Texas ever been there?

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 09:35 PM

In Queensland, "entrapment" by the police is legal.

And they are now boasting about having specially trained officers who impersonate young under age girls on line in order to attract pedophiles..... eeeuurrghhh! Don't want that job....

Robin

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 09:48 PM

Now that's gol danged right, Dougie. (Spit) Any of you commie tree huggin' pinkos come on down an' see fir yer sevvez... We got lectrical an' we know a womanz place. (Spit) Sure do, it's right here on ol' Bobert's lap. Come on or' here, cuty, and put that sweet stuuf right on my lap... Ahhh, wouldja get me a Bud Lite on the way, Cutie... An' get one fir my buddy, Doug, too, wouldja? (Spit)...

"Hunk o' man here, Sweetie. You can throw that wibrator away with me 'round there, Sweetie" Bobert

(Spit)

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 10:14 PM

Now that's gol danged right, Dougie. (Spit) Any of you commie tree huggin' pinkos come on down an' see fir yer sevvez... We got lectrical an' we know a womanz place. (Spit) Sure do, it's right here on ol' Bobert's lap. Come on or' here, cuty, and put that sweet stuuf right on my lap... Ahhh, wouldja get me a Bud Lite on the way, Cutie... An' get one fir my buddy, Doug, too, wouldja? (Spit)...

"Hunk o' man here, Sweetie. You can throw that wibrator away with me 'round there, Sweetie" Bobert

(Spit)

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: harpgirl
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 10:49 PM

watch out bobert. You'll get a vibrator up yer nose!

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 10:50 PM

yup, Doug...I been to Texas. Lived there when I was pretty small. Have been to Dallas, Kerrville and Austin as an adult. And I have talked with several people who used to live there...some had liked it, some didn't...but their explanations of the culture led me to believe it was not the place for 'me' for extended lengths of time. Austin was nice to visit, but Dallas-Ft. Worth felt strange to me....

I am SURE there are quite nice people and great things to see....but they have this HEAVY use of the death penalty and laws against stuff that I consider rights....

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Tinker
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 11:03 PM

Oh dear, I guess it's a really good thing I walked away from that young Texan and went back to finish college..... And I need to make a personal note NEVER to sing the BOB song in Texas. One summer in Beaumont and one in Dallas/ Fort Worth was enough for me. NOt bad for a short visit though.


Tinker

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 11:15 PM

Those stories are both true. The fake-drug one was covered in great detail tonight on All Things Considered. Scroll down to "Dallas Police Still Reeling from Fake Drug Busts." The feds really fell down on investigating it, sent one street-undercover guy as the fall-guy when clearly there is a big pattern and many people way up involved. 80 non-English speaking men don't just get arrested over a couple of years and lots of people get paid a fee for fingering them (when in fact they planted ground up pool chaulk on them) without a lot of people knowing what is happening. Dallas is now investigating and no longer deferring to the feds, now that the trial is over.

The vibrator incident is just plain stupid. Some law enforcement official has their head up their ass. The woman was in her office, and the person kept pressuring her to sell the item there instead of waiting for the party. It'll probably get thrown out as a case of entrapment, but for gods sake, why on earth would anyone be arrested for selling a vibrator? You can buy them in any drugstore or grocery store. Albertson's, owned by the Mormons, sells vibrators, they're over near the alarm clocks, coffee makers, irons, and other small appliances. Walgreens. Eckerds. They're right out there in front. They're labled "massager."

The top seller at Good Vibrations (this is a new window--you may want to keep it up to shop around!) is the Hitachi (same folks as make electronics) Magic Wand. You might want to check out their vibrator museum. I've seen this in places like the old Service Merchandise.

One of the industry standard brands is Wahl and a search on the term "Wahl Massager" will bring hits all over the place.

Then look here and here at Walgreens.

Eckerd has a Conair knockoff of the one by Wahl.

KMart has one also.

They're everywhere. And unless they start arresting store cashiers any time they ring one up, they're not going to be able to make that charge stick.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 11:21 PM

I've never understood why a vibratory "O" is more desireable than the manual kind....

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Amos
Date: 16 Dec 03 - 11:31 PM

Predictable, not desireable...

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: GUEST,guest, kicks just keep getting harder to fin
Date: 17 Dec 03 - 02:53 AM

In the Good Vibrations Catalog there is one item named ALABAMA SLAMMER.
The commentary says "We named this vibe to commemorate the recent turnover of the Alabama state law that banned the sale of sex toys!"

Perhaps the Avon Lady of Sex Toys would have better luck in that state.

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Dec 03 - 03:40 AM

But just remember, ladies, the vibrator cannot mow the lawn...;-)

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 17 Dec 03 - 05:54 AM

- Nor can they get spiders out of the bath - and have you ever known a vibrator with a credit card ?

Still they obviously have their priorities right, over in Texas - it's perfectably legal to buy a gun, but an offense to buy a vibrator - go out and see the film - "The Texas Vibrator Massacre".

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: harpgirl
Date: 17 Dec 03 - 08:44 AM

Hey, Dave, my lawn needs some work...

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Sweetfia
Date: 17 Dec 03 - 08:45 AM

Yeah but at least with a vibrator you know it's gonna last longer than 3 minutes...cause your controlling it!!

I do agree though that gettin arrested for selling one is daft and i'm sure it was a complete waste of the womens time; time she have spent doing something else....

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 Dec 03 - 10:26 AM

What about mobile phones with the sound turned off? Are they illegal as well?

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Wolfgang
Date: 17 Dec 03 - 11:17 AM

China Sentences Two to Life for Sex Party

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Dec 03 - 11:32 AM

I don't know if vibrators are a dick tive but it was still a stiff penalty.

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Peace
Date: 17 Dec 03 - 12:20 PM

I wanted to ask if it came with directions, but that doesn't sound right. I don't know the ins and outs of the vibrator business but--that doesn't sound right, either. OK, let's get something straight between us--man, this id hard to say--make that difficult------ah, fu#k it.

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 Dec 03 - 01:20 PM

Of course, if it had been an assault rifle...

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: NicoleC
Date: 17 Dec 03 - 10:41 PM

Oh fer heavens sake, I've been to one of those "sex toy" parties and it's about as erotic and obscene as a party with actual Tupperware.

50th in the nation in education and pollution, but Texans can take pride in arresting ladies for possessing a hand held massager. What an excellent use of police resources.

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: PapaWhiskey
Date: 18 Dec 03 - 01:48 AM

I was in Cleburne once and the people there seemed nice. If I read the article correctly the nice people in Cleburne think sex toy parties are real trashy, and, rather than live in trashy place, made it a misdemeanor to have one in Cleburne. Not a law I'd vote for, but there it is. Then the police arrested the Passion Parties rep and charged her with the misdemeanor. That seems to be just what the nice people in Cleburne intended when they passed the law.

Now sex toy dealers from San Francisco and accordion players and whatnot from all over the map are outraged, and are writing very stern notes to the Mudcat Forum denouncing the arrest in Cleburne in particular and Texas in general.

The Passion Parties rep must be grateful that brave souls had the courage to defend her in this forum (which is surely a mighty voice for shaping public opinion in Cleburne, Texas). And of course, anyone who owns an autoharp is better qualified to decide what should be legal in Cleburne than the nice people who actually live there; so Cleburne better shape up! If they don't we'll start typing in all CAPS and using lots of exclamation points!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Dec 03 - 11:59 AM

WELL PAPA WHISKY - I DON'T THINK IT WILL "COME" TO THAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Peace
Date: 18 Dec 03 - 11:24 PM

Papa Whisky: Do you know what the exclamation marks look like?

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: GUEST,Mickey 191
Date: 19 Dec 03 - 08:57 PM

A year ago i had an email entitled "exciting underwear' I usually send spam away without opening. But i couldn't resist opening this--had no idea what it could be. Do you?
This is ladies panties with a vibrator atached, and a remote control to make it buzz. I have to say I laughed all day at the possibilities. Imagine you are doing the dishes- Hubby says i think Maizie needs a fix. BZZZZZZ. There goes my best chrystal goblet. Or you waiting for hubby at a restaurant. As he peers thru the window--he turns the juice on. BZZZZZZ. The possibilities are endless.    Sandra Day O'Connor--onthe bench. Condalezza introducing the president.

No I didn't send for it. Afraid of being electracuted.

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Dec 03 - 11:26 PM

"..Afraid of being electracuted." that's the only reason?...*grin* 2AA batteries wont hurt you....go for it!
(This brings back memories-24 years ago, I worked in an adult book/toy store for awhile--some of the products we sold are still available! I guess they are the right thing for some people!)(The 'remote control' I remember was just a cord...not a wireless....the user was expected to choose her OWN time and place.....which seems much more sensible. If cell phones are dangerous, imagine BZZZZZ in heavy traffic!)

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Dec 03 - 11:59 PM

PapaWhiskey, you may have been to Cleburn once, but I live 15 miles up the road from it and I reported my attitude. I'm sure the nice folks in Cleburn are greatful that you're out there defending their stupid laws. Texas recently (finally!) had a legal decision that declared the old sodomy laws unconstitutional. State law now upholds the right to privacy. If they can acknowledge that there's some thing more to sex than the old Missionary Position between a man and a woman, then maybe they'll even decide that targeting someone who sells sex toys is unconstitutional also.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Dec 03 - 12:52 AM

"Imagine BBBZZZZZZZ in heavy traffic??" At last a cure for road rage!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Peace
Date: 20 Dec 03 - 02:25 PM

Gives new meaning to the expression "Coppin' a few Zs."

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Mickey191
Date: 21 Dec 03 - 01:45 PM

How about slipping one of these undies on Queen Elizabeth. She then goes to Westminster abbey for some grand pronouncement. The "Rottweiler" has the remote and suddenly the Queen is smiling as never before. She is in a state heretofore unknown to her. (Her children were conceived and delivered without a peep or a moan) She is trembling and excited and ... ........."Anybody got a cigarette?"

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Peace
Date: 21 Dec 03 - 02:36 PM

Smoke after sex? I don't know, I never looked.

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Mickey191
Date: 21 Dec 03 - 02:41 PM

LOL Brucie, If you did it right ........Nuf said.

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 21 Dec 03 - 04:46 PM

Well that's OK then, I'm no lady!

Do you talk to your husband whilst making love?

Well, if he phones me......

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: PapaWhiskey
Date: 21 Dec 03 - 08:10 PM

SRS, don't get me wrong, it is a silly little local misdemeanor law (and not one I'd vote for) and I expect it will be off the books within seconds of being challenged in court. What lit my board was reading some posts a) that were just pointless, pompous diatribes about Texas and b) that no one said a word about doing something to help, not even popping for a few bucks to help the sex toy woman defray the cost of challenging the law.

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Dec 03 - 09:37 PM

SRS...I finally took a look at the "Good Vibrations" site, and the most fascinating thing I saw was The Winnie-the-Pooh vibrator and IT was the one out of stock! *grin*.... next, Piglet?

Subject: RE: BS: Ladies you are under arrest
From: Peace
Date: 21 Dec 03 - 10:44 PM

Stick. Plow. Disker.
Voice. Megaphone. Microphone.
Smoke. Telegraph. Telephone.
Icarus. Wrights. Glenn.
Shank's mare. Bicycle. Car.
Runes. Printing. Internet.
Hand. Dildo. Vibrator.

I'm starting to see a pattern here.