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Lyr Req: Not For Joe

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alanww 29 Dec 03 - 10:44 AM
Hillheader 29 Dec 03 - 12:58 PM
Jacob B 29 Dec 03 - 05:33 PM
alanww 05 Jan 04 - 05:41 AM
GUEST 05 Jan 04 - 07:48 AM
Charley Noble 05 Jan 04 - 08:41 AM
GUEST,Hugh Jampton 05 Jan 04 - 09:51 AM
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Subject: Lyr Req: Not For Joe
From: alanww
Date: 29 Dec 03 - 10:44 AM

My dear friend Snuffy has previously posted the words we know for Not for Joe as part of the thread om si the gom , started by pavane.
[This song is quite different from the song referred to by Joe Offer in the thread Not For Joseph.]
Clearly the first verse of Not for Joe is at best non-PC and many would say that the use of the word "nigger" is offensive. However, it is a song which was tradionally sung in the second half of the 19th century in Warwickshire and Worcestershire in England at the end of mummers performances (and indeed there is documentary evidence that a dance was performed to that tune).
Question: does anyone know of any further traditional verses, which we could use instead of the offending one? (Obviously, we could make some up ourselves but it would be nice to have use of any traditional ones.)
Thanks.
" ... and he showed it to the girl next door!"
Alan


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Not For Joe
From: Hillheader
Date: 29 Dec 03 - 12:58 PM

Is this the one


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Not For Joe
From: Jacob B
Date: 29 Dec 03 - 05:33 PM

I understand that Not For Joe was an extremely popular tune for Border Morris dances, to the extent that doing those dances was often called "Not For Joeing".

For more information, check out this link: http://notforjoes.org/


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Not For Joe
From: alanww
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 05:41 AM

Any more thoughts?
"... she thought it was a snake ...!"
Alan


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Not For Joe
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 07:48 AM

Who has decided that a perfectly innocent and non-offensive use of the word 'nigger' to describe a black person should have become offensive in our enlightened times.

Souns like a step backwards, if you ask me. How can we reclaim our tradition ?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Not For Joe
From: Charley Noble
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 08:41 AM

Troll alert!
Troll alert!
Troll alert!
Troll alert!
Troll alert!
Troll alert!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Not For Joe
From: GUEST,Hugh Jampton
Date: 05 Jan 04 - 09:51 AM

Sounds like Mr.Noble has been rattled by P.C.`ness. With all his Troll alerts, gawd `elp the Billy Goats Gruff.


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