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Lyr Req: The Bold Grenadier

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Subject: THE BOLD GRENADIER Lyrics Req..
From: Zorro
Date: 16 Sep 98 - 08:53 PM

Does anyone have the lyrics to The Bold Grenadier?? I was told that it was to the same tune as Dylan's With God on our Side, and the traditional "Patriot Game." The song was done by Jo Stafford (no, really) some time ago. Any one?? Someone???


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Subject: RE: THE BOLD GRENADIER Lyrics Req..
From: Barbara
Date: 17 Sep 98 - 09:57 AM

Well, Zorro, I know "Once a bold fusileer came marching down from Rochester..." and it's almost the same tune as Waltzing Matilda... is that close enough?


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Subject: RE: THE BOLD GRENADIER Lyrics Req..
From: Bruce O.
Date: 17 Sep 98 - 12:07 PM

Can you identify the song better? Is it "The Bold Soldier" or "The Bold Dragoon"?


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Subject: RE: THE BOLD GRENADIER Lyrics Req..
From: Pete M
Date: 17 Sep 98 - 04:54 PM

You're not thinking of :

As I was a walking one morning in May,
I spied a young couple, so fond they did stray,
One was a young maid so sweet and so fair,
And the other was a soldier and a bold Grenadier...

by any chance are you? I couldn't find this in the data base, so I wondered.

If it is I can dig out the rest of the lyrics.

Pete M


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Subject: RE: THE BOLD GRENADIER Lyrics Req..
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 17 Sep 98 - 10:37 PM

Hi- We have two versions---try a search for [nightingale sing]. or, for that matter, for grenadier (we have him as brave, not bold).


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Subject: RE: THE BOLD GRENADIER Lyrics Req..
From: Zorro
Date: 18 Sep 98 - 02:09 AM

Pete and Dick you were both right. Thanks very much. Now I recall Harry Belefonte recorded the song as well as others. I appreciate your help.


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Subject: RE: THE BOLD GRENADIER Lyrics Req..
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Sep 98 - 05:21 AM

Even James Taylor recorded this one, which seems almost as strange as Judy Garland singing about the maid milking her cow. It's in the "Rise Up Singing" songbook. When I've heard people sing it at song circles, a number of people can't sing anything but the James Taylor version, and it doesn't work out too well. I suppose the same could be said for the many songs that were altered by Peter, Paul and Mary (but I like them, so that's different....).
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: THE BOLD GRENADIER Lyrics Req..
From: Bruce O.
Date: 18 Sep 98 - 11:37 AM

The original 17th century version is in the Scarce Songs file on my website as "The Nightingale's Song".

www.erols.com/olsonw


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Subject: RE: THE BOLD GRENADIER Lyrics Req..
From: Barry Finn
Date: 18 Sep 98 - 10:32 PM

Alan Lomax collected an American version (real nice one) of this & recorded it on the Tradition label in 1958 "Texas Folk Songs" the song goes by "The Wild Ripling Waters" in this version, it's also in the DT. Barry


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Subject: RE: THE BOLD GRENADIER Lyrics Req..
From: GUEST,id_girl@msn.com
Date: 08 May 03 - 09:53 PM

Hi,

I heard a version of this tune in the film "Far From the Madding Crowd" starring Julie Christie, Terence Stamp and Alan Bates (70's)

One morning, one morning, one morning in May
I spied a young couple, a making of hay
One were a fair maiden, her beauty rang clear
And the other a soldier, a bold grenadier

(more verses in between)

Soldier, oh soldier will you marry me?
Oh nay my pretty maiden, for I've a wife o'er the sea

Anyway thought I'd mention, try to rent the film!

id


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE BOLD GRENADIER
From: GUEST,SNUFFY
Date: 05 Jul 03 - 05:47 AM

I recently listened to Alan Reid & Rob van Sante from The Battlefield Band do a version of this song

As I was out walking one morning in May,
I spied a young couple who fondly did stray.
One was a young maid so sweet and so fair,
And the other was a soldier and a bold grenadier.

Out of his knapsack he took a fine fiddle,
And he played such a merry tune that you ever did hear,
And he played such a merry tune that the valley did ring.
Oh soft cried the fair maid to hear the nightingale sing.

CHORUS: And they kissed so sweet and comforting as they clung to each other.
They went arm in arm down the road like sister and brother.
They went arm in arm along the road till they came to a stream,
And they both sat down together to hear the nightingale sing.

"Well, I'm off to far India for seven long years,
Drinking wine & whisky instead of small beers,
And if ever I return again it will be in the spring,
And we'll both sit down together to hear the nightingale sing."

"Well then," said the fair maid, "will you not marry me?"
"Oh no," said the soldier. "How well can that be?
For I have my own wife on the banks of the Dee,
And she's the fairest damsel that you ever did see."


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Subject: RE: THE BOLD GRENADIER Lyrics Req..
From: Billy the Bus
Date: 05 Jul 03 - 06:08 AM

First heard the song sung by one Warwick Brock, back in the 60s. Alas Brockie is dead just now. Howsomever, he explained the phrase "to hear the nightingale sing" was a euphimism for sexual co-habitation. Run through the words above and you'll see it makes sense. Anyone else caught up with that theory? Just don't fiddle in your knapsack!

Cheers - Sam


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Subject: RE: THE BOLD GRENADIER Lyrics Req..
From: Snuffy
Date: 05 Jul 03 - 08:26 AM

Are there two of us then???

I posted this version back in Feb '00

WassaiL! V


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: THE BOLD GRENADIER
From: GUEST,phil
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 08:25 AM

The Lyrics can be heard in the 'Far From the Madding Crowd' 1967


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bold Grenadier
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Nov 06 - 04:15 PM

i was looking for the lyrics also.

i know some of them

"as i was a walking one morning in May
i spied a young couple, a making of hay.
oh one was a fair maid, and her beauty shone clear,
and the other was a solider,
a bold grenadier.."

later on in the song:

"oh solider, oh solider will you marry me?

oh no my fair lady, that never can be,
for i have a wife at home in my country
two wifes and the army 's to many for me.."

thats all i know, we sing it in our school choir and i need to learn it, but our teacher has no spare lyrics.

anyways, is a brill song ;)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bold Grenadier
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Nov 06 - 04:16 PM

oky, so i noticed the last post from this was 2 years ago XD

ah well..


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE BOLD GRENADIER
From: Rumncoke
Date: 06 Nov 06 - 07:00 PM

This is actually number one in my songbook - started around 1969 and fairly chronological -

As I was a walking one morning in May
I saw a young couple coming my way
The one was a fair maid and her beauty shone clear
The other was a soldier and a bold Grenadier.

CHORUS
And they kissed so sweet and comforting as they clung to each other
They went arm in arm along the road like sister and brother
They went arm in arm along the road till they came to a stream
And they both sat down together, love, to hear the nightingales sing.

Now tell me fair lady why do you walk here
Down by the stream where the waters runs clear
For to see the sweet flowers that bloom in the Spring
And to hear the pretty small birds and the nightingales sing.

Come now said the soldier it is time to give o'er
Oh no said the fair maid let us have one tune more
For I do like the music and the tune of your string
And I like to see the flowers grow and hear the nightingales sing

Now said the fair maid will you marry me
Oh no said the soldier that never can be
For I have a wife in my own country
Two wives and the army would be too much for me

Now I'm off to India for seven long years
Drinking fine wine and whisky instead of strong beer
But if I should return again it will be in the Spring
And we'll both sit down together love to hear the nightingales sing.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bold Grenadier
From: Little Robyn
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 01:23 AM

Many years ago (early 70s) I heard a group, I think named Stonegallows, do this slightly differently;
As I was awalking one morning in May
I met a young couple so fondly did stray
One was a soldier and a brave grenadier
And the other one was a fiddler and a little bit queer....

This was performed with actions and general teasing of the guy who played fiddle.
Robyn


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bold Grenadier
From: GUEST,logan's run
Date: 18 Jul 10 - 10:36 AM

check out LUKE KELLY on u tube, he does a version of this song. it's excellent!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bold Grenadier
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 18 Jul 10 - 01:31 PM

On another discussion forum, someone wrote that "MtheGM's pedantry is legendary": so I make no apology except for the delay in correcting the OP after 12 years, where he refs to "the traditional 'Patriot Game'", which no-one appears to have taken him up on in the long interim.

'The Patriot Game' was written by Dominic Behan.

{I deny that I am a pedant, BTW; I simply work by the watchword that ACCURACY MATTERS.}

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bold Grenadier
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 18 Jul 10 - 01:46 PM

By the way, the version in the Far From The Madding Crowd film [beautifully sung by the late Isla Cameron] was not sung to the "God on our Side/Patriot Game" tune, to which this song is indeed often sung; nor yet to the equally familiar "They kissed so sweet & comforting" air; but to the one that Bonny Sartin used to sing with the Yetties, which is, if memory serves tho I wouldn't swear to it, from one of the Hammond or Gardiner collections.

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bold Grenadier
From: GUEST,SallyB
Date: 19 Oct 10 - 01:23 PM

Here are the lyrics as sung by Fred Cantwell on the album "Folk Songs of England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales: Songs of Seduction", collected by Alan Lomax:

As I was a walking one morning in May,
I saw a sweet couple together at play,
And the first was a fair lady, so beautiful and so fair,
The other was a soldier, a brave Grenadier.

CHORUS
But they kissed so sweet and comforting as they pressed to each other,
They went arming along the road like sister and brother,
They went arming along the road till they came to a spring,
Then they both sat down together, love, to hear the nightingales sing.

Then out of his knapsack he drew a long fiddle,
And he played to her such a merry tune that ever she did hear,
Oh he played to her such a merry tune, it caused the valley to ring,
"Oh, hark," replied the pretty maid, "Hear the nightingales sing!"

Now I'm off to India for seven long years
Drinking fine wine and whisky instead of strong beer
But if ever I should return again 'twill be in the Spring
And we'll both sit down together love to hear the nightingales sing.

Then up spake the fair lady, oh, soldier, tarry with me,
No, no, replied the soldier, how ever can that can be,
For I've got a little wife at home in my home country,
And she is the fairest little woman that your eyes ever see.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bold Grenadier
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Oct 10 - 04:45 PM

Cantwell's version sems to be the one popularized everywhere, with minor changes, by the Clancys and the Dubliners.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bold Grenadier
From: GUEST,Lighter
Date: 19 Oct 10 - 07:17 PM

Hey, that last GUEST was me! What the...?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bold Grenadier
From: GUEST,CLETUS HARDDINGER
Date: 19 Oct 10 - 07:37 PM

Hey thair Mr. MtheBM. You seem like a purty smart feller an i wuz wundrin sumthin. I aint red no wordz ta thizzeer song but i wuz trine ta figger why ennybuddy wud rite sun song bout strong pommagranit juice?

CLETUS HARDDINGER


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bold Grenadier
From: GUEST,Lighter
Date: 19 Oct 10 - 10:07 PM

As I recall, the tune in the movie is almost identical to that of the stanzas (not the refrain) in Steeleye's "Sheep Crook and Black Dog."

It must be used for other songs as well, but I can't think what.

I think it's far superior to the usual "Patriot Game" tune, and it dispenses with the annoyingly repetitive chorus.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bold Grenadier
From: GUEST,This version has been in my head for yeras
Date: 30 Oct 10 - 04:43 PM

As I was a walking and talking one day
I spied a young couple a making their way
One was a fair maid, her beauty shone clear,
The other was a soldier and a bold grenadier
Bold Grenadier, the other was a soldier and a bold grenadier

Well walking and talking and walking together
They went walking so far that they couldn't tell whither
Then they lay themselves down by a clear crystal stream,
For to see the flowers grow and hear the nightingales sing
Nightingales sing, for to see the flowers grow and hear the nightingales sing

Then out of his knapsack he drew forth a fiddle
And kissing and comforting he drew around the middle
And he played such a pretty tune made the hills and valleys ring
O hark said the young maid how the nightingales sing
Nightingales sing, O hark said the young maid how the nightingales sing

O come now says the young maid will you marry me
O no says the soldier that never can be
For I have a wife already in my own country
And so fine a woman as you ever did see
As you ever did see, so fine a woman as you ever did see

O no said the soldier that never can be
For I have a wife already, and children three
But if I shall be this way again, and the leaves are still green
I will stop to see the flowers grow and hear the nightingales sing
Nightingales sing, I will stop to see the flowers grow and hear the nightingales sing


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bold Grenadier
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 30 Oct 10 - 05:04 PM

Lighter ~ agreed a tune not a million miles from [indeed quite closely related to] the stanzas ["Unto my dear Wotsit a letter I'll write'] of Sheep Crook & Black Dog. {Sorry can't call up that name ~ is it Dinah? ~ the song not for some reason being in DT that I can find.}

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bold Grenadier
From: Lighter
Date: 30 Oct 10 - 06:03 PM

Dinah it is.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bold Grenadier
From: GUEST,Breton
Date: 12 May 14 - 11:43 AM

From 'More Folk Songs from Lincolnshire'

As I went a-walking one morning in May
I spied a young couple full on the high way,
And one was a lady, and her beauty shone clear;
The other was a soldier, a bold grenadier.

2. He threw his arms around her and he clasped her by the middle,
And out of his knapsack he drew a grand fiddle.
He played such a tune, my boys, made the valley to ring,
And they watched the pretty flowers grow and heard the nightingale sing.

3. "Well now," says the soldier, "it's time to give ower."
"Oh no," cried the lady, "play one hour more,
For your music I like so well, and the tune of that string,
And to watch the pretty flowers grow and hear the nightingale sing."

4. "Well now," says the soldier, "we must part for a while.
We'll drink of good ale, my lass, and also of wine;
And when I return again it will be in the spring
To watch the pretty flowers grow and hear the nightingale sing."


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