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BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?

black walnut 08 Feb 07 - 09:06 AM
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Stilly River Sage 08 Feb 07 - 02:53 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: black walnut
Date: 08 Feb 07 - 09:06 AM

Re: triggers. Hey, when I consciously avoid wheat and cheese like the plague, and then eat wheat that I don't know is there - by not realizing that Swiss Chalet coats their fries in wheat - and then get a mega-migraine from it right away...well, it's hard to say that I was 'craving' wheat and therefore ordered those fries instead of the baked potato.   There are a lot of theories out there about migraines, but that's not one that I buy. This whole experience has taught me how much people do NOT know, rather what they DO know.

~b.w.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 08 Feb 07 - 05:38 AM

The trigger for me is overwork, or overdoing it in any way. For instance, last week, I worked a week of nights, then drove from Dublin to Connemara in the rush hour, taking seven-and-a-half hours in total. That night I got a raging migraine.

Immigran (on prescription) is the only thing that works when I have the migraine - as well as walking, to keep the pills down and keep the blood moving, and hot-then-tepid-then-hot showers. If it gets me fully before I get the Immigran, there's no hope, because one's digestion shuts down with a full-blown migraine, and the pill just sits there until vomited up.

But if I realise before I'm in the full throes, there's software called Pzizz (it's $60 but it's worth it) which generates auto-hypnosis snooze and sleep recordings. You put them on your iPod and play them over earphones, and they're really helpful for getting into a deep, relaxed sleep.

I think the problem with overtiredness may be that I get to sleep all right, but I'm so tense that I'm clenching my jaw and (the dentist tells me) grinding my teeth, and this puts the neck and jaw muscles into a rictus. Then I wake up with the start of the headache, but I'm so exhausted that I mutter "'Twill be better in the morning" and plunge back into an exhausted, tense sleep.

The tense muscles cause the veins leading up through the neck into the brain to tense, and voila! migraine.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: Charmain
Date: 08 Feb 07 - 04:27 AM

There are doubts about the idea of trigger foods reating to migraines - some doctors now think the foods are craved before migraine due to hormonal imbalances - much as in pregnancy (the hormonal effects of chocolate are well documented and the it is often quoted as a trigger by many sufferers) So rather than being a cause the cravings are another symptom of the migraine.
My partner suffers migraines - he has one right now as it happens... He is fortunate though in that he has a definate early warning when his left eye goes cmpletely blind and then about half an hour later the sight returns and the headache begins - his normal way of dealing with this is to take very strong painkillers when the sight goes and that minimises the headache when it arrives.
With the nausea often ginger and peppermint teas can help or smelling neat peppermint essential oil
It may well be worth getting hormone levels checked out as these can be the route cause. Homeopathy can also be an excellent solution if you can find a good practitioner.
Good Luck...


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Feb 07 - 02:53 AM

We felt so guilty when it was finally diagnosed--when he was little and it seemed like there should be nothing wrong, why he wouldn't just come to the dinner table to eat? I'd make him come sit at the table, try to coax him to eat, and he'd almost go so far as to rest his head on his plate--now we know that the best thing for him was what he was trying to do on his own--sleep it off. Now a days, when this kid looks sleepy during the day I just send him to take a nap. Whether migraine or power nap, it only does him good.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: black walnut
Date: 07 Feb 07 - 09:26 PM

SRS that's such good news about your son - such an increased sense of control.

I had an interesting run-in with a food trigger tonight. I discovered - too late - that there is wheat in Swiss Chalet 'fresh cut' French fries! Go figure...

~b.w.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Feb 07 - 01:44 AM

GUEST, if you're still hanging around waiting for an answer about amitriptyline, it has worked very well for my son, who started taking it when he was about 8 years old. He is 14 now. His migraines went undiagnosed for at least a couple of years before that and he got them several times a month. He gets breakthrough headaches every so often but (knock wood) lately he hasn't gotten them more than once every few months. He's good at recognizing their approach and if we can get him a motrin, a dark room or something to cover his face, and some sleep (even a power nap will help) then he can get through it pretty well. He started with a very low dose (10mg) and it increased to 25mg for a while. For quite some time now 35mg has been sufficient (we get our Rx mail order so the doctor has to write two prescriptions, one for 10 and one for 25, to be taken together each evening). This drug, taken at much higher levels, is an effective antidepressant. At this low dosage it doesn't affect mood, but it definitely prevents the migraines.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: Slag
Date: 05 Feb 07 - 11:01 PM

Don Last, you might want to check out any foods (natural or otherwise) that have sulfur in them (onions, garlic, dried fruits, etc.) as that may be your trigger.

Black Walnut, we're tracking the same page, my friend. At times I wish every Doctor could suffer just one grand mal migraine for about four days. I guarantee their attitude would change re painkillers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: black walnut
Date: 30 Jan 07 - 04:08 PM

It can be s difficult to sort out food triggers, especially the ones that are in many different kinds of foods. My triggers aren't the typical coffee, chocolate, so it took a long time to sort out. But 45 years - yikes!

~b.w.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Jan 07 - 11:31 AM

It took me 45 years to discover the common migraine trigger of onions.

I used to take 18 asprin a day until a doctor gave me percocet.
They are now managed to the point I can actually interact and be productive during a migraine episode although the after effects of the migraine in the form of residual memory deficits is still present.

To have allowed me to endure pure agony every 14 days for 45 years without the aid of an effective pain killer I find virtually criminal.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: black walnut
Date: 30 Jan 07 - 10:10 AM

Onions! They're in just about everything! Wheat and cheese are my main food triggers, so I know the feeling you must have of trying to find a decent meal out of the house.

~b.w.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: GUEST,Don Last
Date: 30 Jan 07 - 09:09 AM

I have had a migraine for 3 days now. Hot showers and drugs is the only relief.

I found that anything in the onion family will trigger a migraine.

I unfortunatly had some leek soup last week.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: black walnut
Date: 30 Jan 07 - 09:03 AM

Slag: you said, "I heard the head of the UCSD Pain Clinic state that all rebound and chronic migraine is caused from continuing to take pain killers." They may have said this but while it is probably the overwhelming factor, it is not totally true. I know because I have chronic migraine and the neurologists have totally ruled out drug rebound. All they can say is that for some reason my brain turned on the "migraine switch" and my body says I have to have them and they won't stop. It's like a roller coaster - up and down up and down. But sometimes there is a whole wonderful day without a migraine - like yesterday - I had a FABULOUS day and got out to a concert at night and smiled the whole evening long.

~b.w.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: alison
Date: 30 Jan 07 - 12:41 AM

since I last added to this thread I have discovered the joys of laser accupuncture.

Basically my doctor puts a few needles in my hands and feet (relaxation points - you almost drift off to sleep after a few minutes), then she spend 30 mins working around my neck, shoulders and upper spine with laser probes (just feels like a warmth)

now I get a migraine about every 6 months ie I still get the flickering eyes warning - but my treatment is now 2 disprin at the onset (+ 1 maxolon is recommended - but I don't get the nausea) and I get no headache at all.................. much better than the 8 nurofen plus I used to have to take.

If the migraines start to get more frequent again I just book in for a "top up" session

wonderful

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: Slag
Date: 29 Jan 07 - 04:06 PM

World Health Org released a statement a few years age that said to the effect that "Migraine" is one of the most debilitating diseases there is. The net effect of a grand mal migraine is blindness (due to both increased light sensitivity and vaso-dialation in the occipital lobe), quadraplegia because "you ain't going nowhere, baby" up to and including the bathroom (keep that bottle handy), and unremitting pain, some of the worst known to man. People have committed suicde to escape and most who have the bad ones have seriously considered it. Yup, throw in nausea and you got a real pinic.

Migraine usually has MULTIPLE triggers; flickering lights (include neon, TV, anything that strobes), TMJ, molds, neck pain, wine and various foods (alas, chocolate too), stress, and too often, no known reason!

Frustrating is what relieves them or fails to relieve them. I've had people tell me, "Yeah, I used to get migraines but all I do is take an Excedrine at night and that ends the problem." FOR THEM! It makes me doubt that they were ever really diagnosed with the condition. However different things work for different people. Ergotamine "works" but not if you have chronic migraine. It can poison you and give you Burgess' Disease where your toes and fingers rot off. And you get "rebound headaches" when you stop taking it.

I heard the head of the UCSD Pain Clinic state that all rebound and chronic migraine is caused from continuing to take pain killers.

My case: I occasionally got migraine as a kid and a teen but I thought all headaches were the same. Asprin never worked and I'd just tough it out. They seldom lasted more than a day. Then for some unknown reason at age 31 I got one that lasted almost a month. I finally concluded that "this was not normal" and went to a neurologist. Heck! I might have a brain tumor! No, I had Chronic Migraine. I tried various meds. This first migraine lasted ( at various stages of intensity) about 3 months. I got over it finally and thought " good, no more headaches" That lasted about a monthe and the next one lasted about 6 months. Since then, (I'm 58 now) the most time off I get is 2-3 weeks, maybe once a year. I have meds that lessen the severity but they are never gone.

For many years I would go in to the Dr.'s office once or twice a month for 125 mgs of Demerol w/ Phenergan or Vistoril 50mgs. There goes a couple of days. That would break the pattern and I'd have 2 or 3 days relief, then wham! I've done elimination diets, bio-feedback, Tooth guard ( yea, TMJ to boot!) all to no avail. Today I take Imitrex for the one's that don't want to let up under painkiller. I get 10 of those a month and I don't really want to take them as there is a real risk of heart attack. Other wise I take #4 Codiene w/ asprin every 4 or 5 hours. This allows me to function, like right now.

I always read labels very carefully for the one thing that will always trigger a grand mal migraine and the is MSG (mono sodium glutimate, one of the more pernicious poisons known to man). This is the stuff in much Chinese cooking and it is marketed as a "flavor enhancer". It is used in brain studies on labortory animals to kill certain portions of the brain. Great stuff. If I chance to encounter it ( usually because it was unamed and listed as "flavorings") it's a trip to the Doc's for Demerol. I have stories, but don't we all.

My advice? Find what works for you. Don't leave home without it. Find a Doc who really knows what terrific pain is involved. So many Dr.s simply do not believe that it could be as painful as they are. You don't want one of those Docs. Make sure that he is available and will promptly give you whatever you need to take the pain away. Most of all, you may feel alone but you are not alone. We who suffer KNOW what you are going through.

One last note. My lady love also suffers with Migraine too, though not quite as chronically as I. However she has what are being called ischemic episodic migraines. The blood vessels in her occipital lobe swell so tight that blood fails to circulate and little by little these portions of her brain are dying. From her migraines she has stroke-like symptoms and has residual effects that have lasted over a year. They effect her muscular response and speech and vision. She was at first diagnosed with MS because of the scarring on her brain but further work came up with the present diagnosis. I suppose you could say, in a very real sense that some migraines have the potential to be fatal.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: GUEST,ib48
Date: 29 Jan 07 - 03:08 PM

Decapitation usually does the trick


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 29 Jan 07 - 10:47 AM

I'm not sure if they are the same but as well as the excruciating pain you feel nauseous and have to rest so the symptoms are similar.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: black walnut
Date: 29 Jan 07 - 10:03 AM

Are TMJ headaches the same as migraines? I've had both, and they weren't really similar in any way. The biteguard by the way only made the TMJ worse for me, and I "cured" my agony - I stopped playing the flute. My jaw muscles were ruined during surgery to take out 4 wisdom teeth, and since we couldn't fix the muscles, I had to stop doing the thing that caused the most pain. It was a difficult choice to quit playing an instrument I loved, but I did, and haven't had any TMJ pain since.

~b.w.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 27 Jan 07 - 03:06 PM

Stress causes grinding of teeth and this can cause severe headaches. A visit to the dentist would be worthwhile because teeth grinders can be fitted with a biteguard to wear at night. It worked for me (not very attractive though!).


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: Slag
Date: 27 Jan 07 - 01:47 PM

All, I emailed Guest that very advise. Who goes asking for medical advice on the BS section of a Folk Music chat room??!!!!. Ask a doc. Go to the clinic. I don't know if there are any MDs who are members or visitors but even if there are any, no one is going to diagnose or evaluated in a chat room!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: black walnut
Date: 27 Jan 07 - 11:41 AM

Exactly what I was going to write, Sorcha. Do NOT play around with meds. Ask you doctor, or pharmacist at the very least.

~b.w.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: Sorcha
Date: 27 Jan 07 - 10:40 AM

Guest 1:55, for pity's sake, ask your Dr that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: GUEST,ib48
Date: 27 Jan 07 - 09:34 AM

aspirin


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Jan 07 - 01:55 AM

how safe is amylotriplene for children in age grouop 10 years pl advise.

mktiwari@jrd.jindalsteel.com


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: fiddler
Date: 28 Jun 05 - 08:24 AM

ah good old Amitryptelye (never could spell it) yup I have boxes of it sat there since I bought the magnet, I've used it the past few weeks when work (and life stress) got a bit too much it is also an anti depressant. It doesn't make me groggy. I still swear by teh magnet.

Web site quoted above or pm me - I'm not on commission only happy feelings.

Hasn't helped the blood pressure - weight loss and fitness are probably the only cure


Andy


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Jun 05 - 12:30 AM

He gets a certain look and we know he's coming down with one. Darken the room, and sometimes taking a warm shower helps (with a low-light lamp instead of regular bathroom lighting). Photo sensitivity is a big part of his, and I have a lesser form of migraine that seems to be purely photo sensitive. Morning light, driving into the sun, kills me.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: black walnut
Date: 27 Jun 05 - 01:47 PM

It must be horrible for a child to have migraines. They don't have the words to say what hurts, or where, or how badly. It's difficult enough for adults to describe their pain. I'm glad to hear that the amytriptaline is working for him, and I hope it keeps working for a good long time. The term "breakthrough" is a very good one.

~b.w.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Jun 05 - 10:45 AM

My son has had migraines (that we now can look back and call migraines) since he was five or six years old. When he was about 8 we finally realized what they were, and he has used amytriptaline, gradually increasing the dose to keep them more or less at bay (we have referred to those as "breakthrough" headaches--meaning there always will be some, but we don't want to take so much of this stuff to completely block them but have the side effects you discuss). He's at 35mg now and doesn't get headaches very often. They tend to occur more during high allergy season.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: black walnut
Date: 23 Jun 05 - 09:32 AM

I'm on way less that that, Morticia. Only 40mg. And I still feel groggy in the morning. It seems to improve over time, however, and so much better than the daily migraines that plagued me over the fall and winter.

I'm off coffee, too, only decaf. So I can't rely on that to shake me out of my sleep. I'm so glad to be rid of that addiction, though. If I drink even half a cup of real coffee I get really wired now.

~b.w.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: Morticia
Date: 22 Jun 05 - 03:04 PM

glad to hear that is working for you, BW.......I tried it but hated the doped up feeling I had the following morning...although the fact I was up to 100mg before it worked might have had something to do with that


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: black walnut
Date: 22 Jun 05 - 08:54 AM

Pauline, it's a low dose of amitriptyline. After trying other things with no effect whatsoever, this one is working. I still get the occasional migraine, but rarely a bad one. I've been to the local migraine clinic at WCH and was told to stay on it for up to a year, then see if I can decrease or go off it for good. The side effect I don't like is a dry mouth which makes singing a bit more difficult, but the side effect I do like is a great night's sleep.

~b.w.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: GUEST
Date: 11 May 05 - 11:10 PM

If you try to follow the above posted "diet" you may surely die from a migraine.



Instead, fast on nothing but "Cream of Wheat" for four weeks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: GUEST
Date: 11 May 05 - 01:26 AM

Start your mornings with a full glass of aged-sulfated-red-wine - and a bit of aged chedder-cheese on sourdough bread.



Lunch with several cups of black coffee - and a nitrated beef hunk. i.e.


Sausages

Ham

Corned Beef

Garnish with a side of pickled salt-cabbage (saurkraut) or pickles



For dinner - start with two stiff drinks of Scotch Whiskey

Add a Speckled Red Hen or glass of red-wine

Half a loaf of white bread with imitation garlic spread.

Pasta - with sweetened red sause (no meat)
Have a bowl of pistachio ice-cream for desert.



ENJOY


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: JennyO
Date: 10 May 05 - 09:40 AM

Rumncoke, I'm really curious to know about your trick for lowering your blood pressure. I could probably use something like that. If you don't want to say it here, you could send me a PM.

Jenny


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 07 May 05 - 02:00 PM

Another sinus rinse, sold by Boots chemists and available online in various places, is Sterimar.

Apparently what salt water does is this: the salt causes the mucous membranes in your sinuses to dry out a bit, so your nose runs like a tap, taking down the miserable congestion and cooling off the nice muggy bacteria-encouraging temperature.

If it's a true migraine, your doctor might give you something called Imagrin (or maybe it's Imigran), which kills any headache in about an hour and 10 minutes - *if* you take it when the headache has only begun recently.

If you leave it too long, you can't take anything because your digestion shuts down and anything you take comes back again.

Prevention: there's a good tai chi exercise that consists of holding your neck gently and revolving your elbows backwards 32 times, forwards 32 times, then alternately backwards (left then right) 32 times, then *gently* pushing the neck to loosen up the tight muscles.

Another good option is to go for a professional neck and head massage.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: Pauline L
Date: 07 May 05 - 01:09 PM

Estrogen can be related to migraines. I used to get migraines as part of PMS.

bw, I'm so glad you found something that works. What is it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: Rumncoke
Date: 07 May 05 - 12:03 PM

I had migranes in my younger days - they stopped when I divorced my first husband. I also stopped drinking black coffee, so it is difficult to say precisely what happened to stop them.

I still find feverfew self sown in the garden, have peppermint essence in the drawer with cookery things - but I have only ever had a migrane once since then. It was not the same, as I used to get a flashing lattice, but this was being half blind.

I can voluntarily lower my blood pressure - I am overweight and have been using the trick to annoy medical professionals for decades. My blood pressure without the trick is good - I checked at the gym, but it is excellent at hospital and clinic. I do it quite regularly - it is a cure for insomnia. I don't get ordinary headaches and my calm good humour is remarked on.

Anne


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: black walnut
Date: 07 May 05 - 08:56 AM

I started on a new (my third first line trial) drug last week, and I haven't had a migraine for FIVE WHOLE DAYS!!!! It's heaven. I can think. I can work. I can plan. I can drive. It's totally amazing!

~b.w.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: JennyO
Date: 07 May 05 - 05:42 AM

Oestrogen controls blood flow in the arteries as witnessed by hot flushes (or flashes if you prefer). Is that relevant? Capiliaries would be affected first.

Mr Red, I suspect that this could be relevant to my experience. I don't have enough medical knowledge to be sure though. At the time I was just glad to find something that worked!

Jenny


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: fiddler
Date: 07 May 05 - 03:50 AM

Terri,

INvest 50 squids in a magnet!

I never got migranes - although some said they were - I had persistant headaches! Hell not on legs.

a:href="http://www.ecomagnets.com/bioflow.htm">http://www.ecomagnets.com/bioflow.htm

Not taken any drugs or haheadaches since! - I suppose I shouldn't have said that should I!!!!!

Andy


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: Mr Red
Date: 06 May 05 - 02:13 PM

I used to get headaches from cold weather and I was always careful when I washed my hair (evaoration and cooling) especially not going to sleep with wet hair.

I seem to have mine under control - but it is difficult to gauge how bad they were. Pain is so subjective.

Oestrogen controls blood flow in the arteries as witnessed by hot flushes (or flashes if you prefer). Is that relevant? Capiliaries would be affected first.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: JennyO
Date: 06 May 05 - 12:30 PM

I used to get migraine-like headaches around the time of my period - apart from them being worse, I could always tell they were not an ordinary headache when I would take the usual headache medication and it didn't work.

What did work every time was Naprogesic (Naproxen Sodium), which was sold as a medication for period pain.

These days, all I have to worry about is whether I will get the 100th post - well someone might as well have it :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 May 05 - 06:27 PM

Way up there WYSIWG mentioned "electrolyte imbalances.... " Along that line- I recently got an email ofering "Quick Cures" and among a whole list it said: "Did you know that drinking two glasses of Gatorade can relieve headache pain almost immediately -- without the unpleasant side effects caused by traditional "pain relievers?"

Oh, if getting rid of pain were only that simple! The pain and frustration some of you periodically experience is appalling, and you have my utmost sympathy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: GUEST
Date: 01 May 05 - 05:34 PM

Good news. Helps one's disposition.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: GUEST,autoharpy
Date: 01 May 05 - 05:23 PM

I just want to say the Neti Pot is changing my life! I can breath! No headaches in the morning!


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: GUEST,Saulgoldie
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 02:56 PM

I don't have a migraine right now, but I probably will if I don't get a good night's sleep sometime soon. But I sure wisht I could get a "100."


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: Mr Red
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 02:25 PM

Nasal sprays and the like probably work because one cause is the inflamation of sinuses. Another reason is the anti-histamines. I only just found-out that histamines are alcohols and present in dark drinks as congeners &/or associated with them. My doctor prescribed anti-histamines and I didn't take them because despite my questioning he reckoned there would be no contra-indications. Till I got the box, plastered with warnings about driving &/or drinking and taking the tablets. Maybe one before bed might do the trick. Asprins can but asprin and alcohol are not a good conbination - not that I noticed. Certainly drinking to replace fluids during the night instead of flooding my stomachhe feels better.

As for migraines without apparent cause - don't get em since the responsible job went out the window.

Though I am careful if I have a sniffle to were a wooly hat during sleep. Lets face it the rest of the body is lagged but not the head and in the winter if the capilliaries get cold they shut down in most of the body which in the head starve the brain of oxygen and thus gives you a headache. It "helps" rather than cures - staves off the "almost".


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: GUEST,Frug
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 01:29 PM

I have suffered from migraine attacks for years since I was a kid of about 5. I used to collapse with the pain. They have followed me throughout my life and then developed into cluster headaches, basically migraine in bunches. I can assure you that these are the most disruptive and unpleasant things that have ever happened to me healthwise. I have tried acupuncture ( after all the pills that is!!) with some success. Most recently I went through a period of cluster migraine 49 days every bloody day. The Doc eventually put me on Beta Blockers which appear to have had an effect and I am now migraine free.............but for how long? Mine are usually triggered by tiredness and stress, however given my work pattern and responsibilities I don't see how to avoid them, I don't get the warning signs, ho hum!!

Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: Pauline L
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 12:23 PM

I have found that my triggers for migraines include sinus congestion and changes in barometric pressure. I'm incredibly sensitive to the latter. I have numerous allergies and yesterday was our first heavy pollen day. I've got a splitting headache and enervating asthma. Thanks, SRS, for the suggestion about Neti Pot. It sounds like something I used to use at my ENT doctor's office. It was not a panacea but it helped. So far, the only non-drug treatment I've found which helps is mild exercise, like walking, indoors during pollen season.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: black walnut
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 11:24 AM

Thanks Leeneia. I'll keep that on my list of suggestions. I like to try just one thing at a time. Today it's Maxalt + coffee. The doctor says that my migraines are 'in stasis'...as in when one goes, another cometh. Waiting for the MRI...not much music happening in my life these days.

~b.w.


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Subject: RE: BS: Migraine sufferers, advice please?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 01 Apr 05 - 07:08 PM

I have suffered from wicked headaches for many years. They seem to have more than one cause.

One problem with headaches is that doctors seem to call any headache which is seriously painful a migraine. This may be incorrect. For example, one night I woke in such pain that sat up in bed and wept. And then, somehow, it came to me that the great pain was merely a cramp in one of the muscles that attaches my head to my neck. What a relief to know that it was not air pressure, sinuses, something I ate or an emotional problem.

Now when I sense that muscles are involved, I use Aspercreme. A nurse recommended it to me, and she knew what she was talking about. When my neck and shoulders feel like someone is tightening them with a winch, I rub Aspercreme in. It often helps. Also, it can't upset your stomach.

Black Walnut, you spoke of a jackhammer drilling into the left side of your head. Try Aspercreme for that. There is a group of long, thin muscles that attaches to your skull at your temples, and if they are stressed, that may create that drilling sensation.

Another thing I can tell you is that no prescription medicine has ever done a thing for my headaches.

Dropping air pressure, especially a wet, cold front is a factor, too. One night River City had a tornado (talk about low pressure!) and I had to be taken to the hospital. (Turned out I had migraine plus the flu.) I asked a fellow sufferer about that night, and she said, "I thought I was going to die!"

Anybody know why low pressure causes such problems?


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