BS: Best way to sell used books online?

Subject: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 17 Jan 04 - 11:29 PM

On ebay or through one's own listings at abebooks.com?

SOme I will list on Mudcat, but there are several that I don't think would be of much interest.

Thanks for any opinions and/or experiences.

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 17 Jan 04 - 11:36 PM

I've bought several used from the Amazon system. Works well for buyer; dunno how well it works for seller-- maybe you have to be a bookstore.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 18 Jan 04 - 12:21 AM

If you have a "coherent collection" and/or anything of reasonable value, the best use of the web would be to find a few book stores that specialize in used/old books, and then contact them for info on how to list them. They may have someone on their list that's already asked for one you have.

There are a number of good dealers, but the best one for you would depend on the kind(s) of books and location. The books need not be particularly valuable, but preferably out of print or at least a little hard to find.

If you have mostly stuff that you could take to the local used book mart, then the best advice is probably to just filter them into your local waste removal stream... but I know that's really hard to do, unless you've learned from giving the children away a few times (and the kids always find their way back).

John

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Jan 04 - 09:31 AM

**bg** Thanks, JohninKS. Indeed the kids do find their way back.

I just pass on the books which would normally go to the local used book exchange. The ones I am thinking of selling are all out of print or early, if not first, editions. I have the abe software downloaded and had started to list all of my library in it, sorted for sale or not, but got a bit bogged down at the time.:-)

Thanks, Susan, I'll look into that. I just never think of Amazon for rare and out-of-print.

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: artbrooks
Date: 18 Jan 04 - 10:32 AM

I've also bought a lot from Amazon...mostly obscure texts...and it seems to be a good outlet for graduate students who discover that the University bookstore will only offer them $1.25 for the $75 book they purchased 4 months before.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Jan 04 - 01:08 PM

People will also bid high for rarer books on Ebay, so that's worth a try. You can specify an opening bid too...and if no one goes for it, you haven't lost anything. Ask Two Bears...he has bought some rare books on Ebay, and he may have sold some too.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: open mike
Date: 18 Jan 04 - 01:39 PM

my ex is a used boook dealer...
the web page we used to have is
www.quiknet.com/~piercebk
he finds abebooks to be the
best way to sell books-not sure if
you uhave to be a shop or a member.
Wayne has thousands and thousands of
books. There are programs which you can
use to catalog the titles you have.
They have forms with places to enter
author, title, publisher, etc.
how many books are you talking about
here? you might send him a list of
titles you have...he specializes in
used, out-of-print and hard-to-find
books. He might be interested in
them. his e-dress is [e-mail]
good luck.Laurel

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Michael
Date: 18 Jan 04 - 01:50 PM

We have sold quite a lot of our old books on Amazon, it works very well, its easy , you take no risksm - payments are through Amazon.
I recommend it.
Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Jan 04 - 11:12 PM

Well, thanks, everyone! I will take a look at Amazon, Michael. And, Laurel, thanks for the info on yer ex.:-) I have started to enter my library in the software I downloaded from abe and looked into selling on there. It seems pretty straightforward, though I think for paying and no risk Amazon might be easier.

LH, I have also sold stuff on ebay, but not any really rare books, so I'll send a PM to Two Bears, thanks. The thing with ebay is, if someone else has what you're selling, your chances of selling your nearly same item are less and if you don't get your reserve price, if you choose to have one, you're still out for the listing fees, so I am thinking the other alternatives might be better except for the few really rare things I have.

I knew I'd get good input from 'catters!

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Sorcha
Date: 18 Jan 04 - 11:22 PM

You might try half.com It's an Amazon site

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 19 Jan 04 - 09:45 AM

If you've got quite a few books to dispose of, abebooks.com and alibris.com are worth considering - either in your own name or through a dealer who's already in there. They score high with search engines and are frequented almost exclusively by people (including specialist dealers) who are there specifically for used books. Very friendly, very easy, very effective.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: EBarnacle
Date: 19 Jan 04 - 09:57 PM

What books on what subjects? You've whetted our appetites, now let's feast!

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Jan 04 - 10:17 PM

Thanks, Fionn, that's what I'd found when I've searched and bought on abe.

EBarnacle, LOL, I'll have to get on the stick and get to it, won't I? Off the top of my head, the one I really want to get sold, for starters, is a first of Tramp Abroad, but I've got to get it appraise first and there's no one knowledgeable here that I trust. I've looked at sites which tell what to look for and seen some on ebay that look like mine, but there are some subtle distinctions between two issues. It's the first book in which he allowed his photograph to apprear. The rarer version has some water stains on his collar; they corrected that and republished it. I THINK I have the earlier one, but I need an expert to check it out.

I also have some old Will James; old 1930's metaphysical books from Unity School of Christianity; more recent herb books; and more. Haven't decided for sure which ones I will sell and which I will keep. Now that you've asked....:-)

Thanks!

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 19 Jan 04 - 10:52 PM

Over the past eight years ABEbooks (originally, Antique Book Emporium) has provided me with obscure books that have been unavailable in U.S because of politics. Thankfully, PC had not yet caught up with the rest of the ABE-globe, several of those books are no longer listed (hopefully - sold-out to collectors)...it is sort of like the world version of AMOK.

Sincerely,

Gargoyle

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Sep 06 - 06:57 PM

After a slight detour, :-), I am finally back at this. I have heard from the local used bookstore, that she no longer uses abebooks because they've upped their charges and other reasons. Anyone else have any more recent experience with selling with them or any of the other places noted above?

Thanks!

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Beer
Date: 09 Sep 06 - 08:35 PM

Well here goes. Time to let out my little secret.
I go to as many estate auctions as possiable and buy boxes (preferable old) of books for 1,2,3 dollars abox. I usually never spend more that this unless I know for sure tat something in that box is worth big bucks. I try to stay away from soft cover, readers digest and national geographic.
Once a year I put a small add in thje local newspaper asking folks not to throw out their old hard cover books. Call me instead and I'll come and pick them up.
When I get home I go through all the books and keep the ones I want to read and also keep anything on Canadian history or old American History. I now have about 200 in my collection.
I then go to AddAll.com and get an approxmate value of the books I have. They are very helpful in giving me a ballpark figure as to what a book is worth. Anything they (antique book shops)have listed under a $100.00 I don't keep. Anything over $100.00 I will list on e-bay.
My first sale on e-bay was a Will Rogers (title I forget.)book first edition and I got $167.00 Anerican. I was hooked. My worst sale was to a lone bidder from Alaska that got a first edition Agatha Christie at a reserve for $50.00. The book was valued over $3,000.00. I cried for awhile but then got thinking that I still made money. I had only paid $1.00 for a box that I also sold three others.
But make sure if you say it is a first edition that it is and not a republishers first edition. You have to get to know the companies that are republishers.
For example. You buy a book called "Moby Dick" You pay $3.00 for it but your all excited because it says "First Edition". Now you know this book is worth thousands so you list it at X numbers of $ only to get the dickens (shit) from someone that tell's you that it isn't worth nore that 25 cents at a garage sale. Why? Because it was a republished book by Burt, Cassel, Collier, Altermus, Blakiston, Greenwich house, Cupples & Leon, Fiction Library, Goldsmith, Grosset & Dunlap, Saalfield, Sun Dial, Triangle, Hurst, Tower, and on and on.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Beer
Date: 09 Sep 06 - 08:57 PM

Sorry about that folks. Pressed the wrong button so there are probably many spelling mistakes as I'm not a typist but I use spell check when I'm finished.
I got heck once from a buyer who said that before I list as first edition that I should make sure of what I was saying. He was very critical but also very constructive. I wrote back and thanked him. He pointed out that my first edition was a "Book of the Month Club". No where on that book did I read this. And no where would I have found it written. Except on the back of the cover there was a small indented "dot" at the bottom of the cover. And the dot was the same color as the cover. I learned a very valuable lesson.
The books that I can't sell I give to the local church for their yard sale. About 3 months ago I boxed over 600 books and they were shipped down to Katrina victims. Two years ago I gave over 1000 books to a community that was collecting books to open a library. I never throw a book out.
If you care to go to e-bay and somehow find my handle which is "noah_black". You will see some of the books I am presently selling. I think I'm aloud to say this?? All of these books are valued well over a $100.00, yet I paid next to nothing for them.

I'm not getting rich at this but it has helped me buy a "Blueridge BG40 Guitar and some extra for beer money.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Sep 06 - 09:17 PM

Thanks, Beer, that's exactly the kind of info I am looking for. I do know a bit about republishers, learned by observing, researching, esp. on abebooks, alibris and bookfinder. I hadn't heard about adadll.com, so will check it out, too. Thanks a bunch!

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Beer
Date: 09 Sep 06 - 09:34 PM

Your most welcomed.
I tell you Kat!, boxes of books for a buck or two at auctions is the way to go before to many folks catch on.   It's a gold mine.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Sep 06 - 10:36 PM

eBay. You can check Abebooks for the price the dealers are asking, but then you can check eBay for the true value. Click their site map tab at the top of the page and on the next page go about halfway down to Completed Listings on the left. I think they hold the completed postings for 2 weeks. (You need to be a member with a password to look at the Completed Listings). Makes me shake my head when I see what some of those books just sold for. I expect to get about a quarter to a half of the top price Abebooks lists, and I fix a reserve at that quarter to half. If I got the book cheaply, why not take a decent markup and move on? Good luck.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Sep 06 - 11:28 PM

Thank you, Guest. I am a member of ebay, but I didn't know that about the completed listings. I also had not worked out a "formula" for a reserve price, so that is quite helpful.

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Sep 06 - 12:12 PM

Right now I'm looking at a stack, not quite a complete selection, of paperbacks that are all first US editions by Janwillem van de Wetering. Deciding what to do--selling them one at a time doesn't seem to work. A whole bunch at a time seems to not get anywhere near what they're worth. I'm going to try a few at a time, in chronological order. Maybe I should list all of them, in three separate auctions, a few hours apart but more or less at the same time?

SRS (I ought to read them first, but I don't have time)

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 06:19 PM

Ah, had *lost* this thread and was going nuts trying to remember the site you mentioned, Beer, "AddAll.com." Thanks, again, for that. I am finally ready to start listing some books!

Thanks to the rest of you, too.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Tootler
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 07:09 PM

My daughter buys and sells books on eBay. She has a good idea of going rates for the type of book she is interested in and finds that prices on eBay can fluctuate around that price quite considerably.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: MBSLynne
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 10:01 AM

I was given a large pile of "Magical and mystical" and health related books recently..all hardback and in new condition. I don't have room for them so have listed them on Amazon about five weeks ago. I haven't made a single sale.

I really want to get rid of them all, quickly...anyone want them???? They are too good to throw away

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Scoville
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 10:07 AM

If there is a Half Price Books or something like that near you, just take them there. You won't get a whole lot but they've never rejected anything I've given them and you can unload the whole batch in one trip. Save you the listing fees and the bother of storing them if they don't sell or take too long to sell.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 10:45 AM

Half-Price books is in the US, but there is probably a British equivalent.

You could offer them as a lot on eBay, get rid of them in one fell swoop. Be sure you package and weigh them FIRST so you know how much to charge for shipping. And if you're offering to sell internationally, you might suggest that bidders contact you and you'll research the rate and let them know.
List them cheap, maybe 25 - 50 cents a book to start, and go from there.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Beer
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 12:36 PM

I'm thinking of seriously dumping e-bay. They have up their prices and are getting to damn greedy. I'm going to look into You Tube and see if their are possibilities there.
Beer
Aka (adrien)

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Becca72
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 01:47 PM

I agree with Michael. I have been selling my old books, videotapes, CDs I don't want, any media, really on Amazon.com for a couple of years now and have had a wonderful experience. I also prefer them for buying books and love the "used" option as it is a good, cheaper alternative.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 02:02 PM

Not directly on Kat's point, but perhaps of interest to potential "used" book buyers, and following on what Beer describes above--

A "used" book seller (via Amazon) answered my question about how she can afford to let books go so cheap-- sometimes it's a penny a book, plus shipping. She said that books going at that rate have been bought by the case at auction, unexamined, and may be new or used, some new with slight water damage suspected from box damage, and that there are enough "good" items in these cases bought at auction that in total, she makes out quite well. She's happy to let the penny books go so cheap because it reduces her outlay costs as long as the shipping is covered. I've bought several books this way much cheaper than their "new" price and been surprised to get brand-new books with tight spines showing they were never opened.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 03:18 PM

Although I use abebooks.com to purchase older material, I agree that Amazon runs a good ship; I have bought used or remaindered material through them without problems. Also useful for used cds and dvds.

I am not yet into selling my books, but these are the two I would look into (North America).

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 04:03 PM

I will probably go with Amazon, though as a buyer I had a bad experience. Order and paid for a book. Let them know it never arrived, up to a month later. The seller basically said too bad and would not refund my money or send another copy.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Becca72
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 04:08 PM

Sounds like you got a bad seller, kat. I ordered a DVD and it never showed up. When I tried to email the seller I was told their right to sell on Amazon had been revoked. Amazon itself refunded my money, though. As a seller I haven't questioned it the couple of times my buyers have told me the books never arrived. All I generally asked was that they wait for the allotted arrival time to expire and then I refunded their money in full. Amazon definitely keeps you in the loop on the selling end, though. I am hooked. It's a great way to clean out unwanted stuff without having to haul it all down to the lawn and let strangers rummage through it.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: MBSLynne
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 04:20 PM

I don't know what Half Price Books is, but I don't think we have anything like it here. I thought about taking mine to a charity shop, but our local ones have signs up that they haven't got room to store stuff and aren't taking books, toys or bric-a-brac any more

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Scoville
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 04:27 PM

HPB is a chain bookseller--new and used. They buy used books, VHS, CD's, DVD's, that sort of thing. You don't get a lot but you also have the convenience of unloading a lot of stuff at once. Sorry, I didn't realize you were UK.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 06:35 PM

I've sold things through Amazon also. I used to buy books in their auction but it got too off track, with the listers all seeming to be sure they had rare valuable books that were in fact garage sale trash. Hard to sort through all of it.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 08:01 PM

Thanks, Becca. I should ahve contacted Amazon about it, I know. My local used bookstore is always getting more books than she can use. She was throwing them out. Now, she's set up a sellers' program. Sign the contract and you get a certain number of books signed out to you, with a check for the agreed upon wholesale price, then you can sell them any way that you want. Those you don't sell you can take back to her and you do not pay for them. Any sales get split 50/50. I may take her up on it.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 09:09 PM

Who gets the check--the bookstore, right? Can you pick through and get all the same author, etc? That would be the way I'd do it--selling lots of the same or similar (you have to show the connection) authors is pretty easy on eBay. You don't make a lot of money, but you can do better than break even.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 09:28 PM

SELL books!?!?!!! Sell your books??? Your children???

(Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. But I'm a librarian....)

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 10:02 PM

Though no fan of eBay after the hassle I had when they listed my stolen uilleann pipes, I feel obliged to update my earlier post. Small second-hand/antiquarian dealers are increasingly biting the bullet and throwing in their lot with eBay. There is more liquidity in that market than in all the rest put together. And any competent specialist trader will scour the listings, which saves you having to traipse round their stores.

A tip I picked up is that a decent photo can make a big difference on eBay. Thorough and fair description of condition, content, number of plates, etc helps too, but trade-style terms like G/VG are best avoided since many potential bidders don't understand them.

If you are going to be selling small-ticketitems in large numbers, the listing fees can become quite significant, so it's worth waiting for offer-price listing days.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 10:38 PM

Yeah, I know, Rapaore. I have books stacked all over which I have had for years. I was just telling Rog that I have a hard even thinking of selling them. I would rather give them to friends whom I know would appreciate them!

Now the stuff I get from the bookstore, yes, I think those I could sell!

SRS, good idea. I might think about that. She had suggested focussing on genre, but it would be up to me. She would hold a check, from me, for any books I would take, in lots of fifty, but I would get the individual checks/payments from buyers. After I sell the first fifty, I pay her half and get my check back OR, she holds it for the next batch. She does nothing with my held check unless I never bring the books back or pay her from the sales of them. I should also say we are talking about paperbacks only. She prints out the ISBN, pricing labels with her bookstore name on them AND also the seller's name, i.e. my name. The profit level goes up the more books you sell. She has a lot of good suggestions on how and where to sell them, too, including ebay by the book lot.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 11:21 PM

Is there a way to sell/swap here? I have all 16 of the Henry Gamandge mysteries by Elizabeth Daly (Agatha Christie's favorite mystery writer), but I'll never get around to reading them. I'd let them go, cheap. Are proposals like that permitted here?

http://mail.moment.net/~michael/DalyBooks.JPG

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 11:55 PM

Only in the acution and you can only use the auction if you sign up to be a member, which is free. Also, you have to set a percentage of the auction price to go to Mudcat which is a non-profit.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 11:57 PM

Oh, I see yours are hardbacks. Better check what they are selling for, esp. as you seem to have some with their dustjackets. Here's a comparison pricing site which shows some of hers as rather pricey: click here.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 12:14 AM

Kat,

I've been selling mysteries of my Dad's that after nine years I still hadn't gotten around to reading. He had shelves full of them, and the authors he liked he collected all of the books. I recently found a couple of boxes in the garage that rounded out some sets I'd already sold, so in some instances (like Ed McBain) I've sold 20 books at a time in a large lot. I start out low, maybe listing it at 2.99, knowing someone is going to bid on it just because if they get lucky they'll get a whole bunch of books for next to nothing. As soon as one person bids, others want to see what might be there and will also take a look. On some authors you're actually better off starting really low. Others that will probably only get one bid I sometimes push a little higher because they'll get some attention but not the active bidding. The ones I've sold in lots through eBay that generated some excitement included McBain, the Kellermans, Elliot Roosevelt, Stuart Kaminsky, Dick Francis, J.J. Marric, James Melville, Marcia Muller, Sara Paretsky, Josephy Wambaugh, Donald Westlake. Some of them, like the Dick Francis and Joseph Wambaugh came from a garage sale up the street and I got them low enough that I made a little money selling them.

I've sold almost all of the books I've listed, but these excited enough interest that I ended up with a nice little profit. You don't make much money selling paperbacks at eBay, but what you do earn supports the eBay habit (in my opinion!). Most of these books didn't cost me anything to begin with and I make sure I don't lose money on shipping (I use recycled library book mailers I get for free from the recycle bin at work). I add in the sixty cents tracking fee on book rate boxes because if for some reason I do have to take it to the post office, it's covered. I always track anything I ship that I sold on eBay.

I agree with Peter--good photos are key. I make a point of using a beautiful wood background (tabletop) for my paperbacks, I arrange them so a few edges and spines can be seen, I spell out any flaws and if needed, include a photo of the damage. I make larger images and post them to a personal web page and do my eBay book ad in a template I designed in FrontPage. I link back to the personal page so I don't pay for extra photos at eBay. I set them up so the photos open IN A SEPARATE WINDOW. The last thing I want is for my customer to be navigating away from my sales page!

Also, I always try to have a book cover with a face and eyes in view in the photos. That seems to make a difference, not just the dripping dagger and blood on the thorn of the rose next to the broken mirror and a scrap of paper. Arrange your books so they look interesting. Don't have personal stuff near the subject OR in the background, and don't use the carpet or bedspread, or couch upholstery, etc. I don't want anything in the photo giving any clues as to the house or to the quality of carpet or furniture I have here. With digital cameras it isn't like you're wasting film trying to get it right. I photograph two or three of the best looking or most popular in the lot and post that in the free eBay photo space and then have thumbnails through my ads and text links to the other photos, also letting them know that it will open in a separate window. In the auction itself they can see all of the books, but if they're at a page with all auctions and looking at the gallery photos I want my books to be recognizable in the eBay thumbnail. I don't always run gallery shots though. Sometimes that is overkill when the author isn't over-represented in the auctions. People searching for their favorite authors will click on the ad if they can see that there is a photo in it somewhere.

Hope this helps! I think I'd enjoy trying the bookstore sales routine--it would allow me to combine what I already own with some newer offerings by the same authors so I could sell more complete sets.

Maggie (SRS)

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 12:33 AM

Thanks, Maggie!! I really appreciate all of your info and hearing about what has worked for you.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 01:06 AM

All of that sounds like it takes a while, and at first it does. But I have a staging area for this work, the table where photos are taken, the mailers, a scale, tape, and templates in FrontPage along with the USPS web site to calculate postage. The most time consuming part is transcribing the blurb (into Notepad) on the back cover of each book. I drop it into FrontPage, Photoshop the photos, and launch the thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 01:26 AM

Go to Amazon for the blurb. Copy and paste.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 11:34 AM

That is a good idea, and it works if they have the identical book, but some of the editions I have used different wording, or when searching on the ISBN it won't turn up. I do cut and paste when I can. (Sometimes you can piggy back from other eBayers if they've already copied it, but pay head to the proofreading thread and be sure you're not repeating their mistakes or it is conspicuous where you stole found your copy). :)

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 01:16 PM

Yeah, I meant to mention the ISBN search on newer books. Sounds like you have things well thought out. Good luck.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 01:31 PM

Touble is, some of the paperbacks here are so old they don't have the ISBN because it wasn't around yet. I'm packaging those in plastic bags and selling them as "collectible." ;-)

And that was supposed to be "pay heed." Pay head sounds a little dicey. . .

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 01:51 PM

I just found the ISBN for an old collectible by searching for it at addall.com, no problem. Usually you can get them that way and also the descriptions at abebooks and bookfinder can be copied and pasted.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 04:27 PM

I'll try that. I have a few more large lots coming up, once I finish a couple of things I started during the holidays.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: GUEST,na0
Date: 12 Jan 07 - 02:20 PM

hi. i've never posted at this forum before.
i was wondering what everyone's most popular selling books are?
when you sell on half.com, ebay.com , abebooks.com , amazon.com, etc...
which books sell the best for you?
i'm new to the book selling process and my sells are hit or miss.
thanks for any tips!

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Jan 07 - 03:48 PM

I would say that if you belong to a community that has interest in a particular type of book, the best way to give that book a good home, is to sell it through that community. I think Mudcatters would be wise to sell folk music books through Mudcat. One way is through the Auction, but I don't like the uncertainty of auctions. Personally, I don't see a problem with starting a thread and saying I have such-and-such books for sale at such-and-such a price (or to give away). Then I don't have to a pay a profit to a merchant.
In my view of fairness, I think it's usually appropriate for anyone to use Mudcat for selling folk music books, and I think it's appropriate for regular members to sell things occasionally through BS threads. I don't think it's appropriate for people to come in and use Mudcat solely for the purpose of selling non-music items, and I usually delete those threads.
I suppose it's a subjective judgment I make, whether this person is coming here simply to take commercial advantage of Mudcat, or if it's a normal human bartering function of the community. I suppose it sounds arbitrary, but usually it's an easy decision to make because it's quite obvious.
Think that's fair?
-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: GUEST,Curious
Date: 12 Jan 07 - 07:41 PM

I didn't past the log-in link to the auction. Do you have to be a member, or can you do the mudcat auction with a Guest name? I'm not a big joiner.

My uncle left me a bunch of record albums, and this spring and summer I should get around to sorting through them. Crates of them which he graded and marked and then stored in the plastic sleeves. I haven't looked at them closely yet, but unless there are some rarities, I'll probably just try to interest one of the local dealers in the lot. But if there are folk albums, I could run them through here.

Forget the question about signing up. I imagine you have to, in order to sell. I'll check out the membership rules.

One other thing, do LPs play the same in Britain as they do in the U.S.? And the same in Australia and other places besides the U.S. (Same RPM and all that)? Never had occasion to ask this question. Some of the albums may be of more interest to people in other countries.

Sorry this is off the topic of books. Didn't want to start a new thread about it.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Jan 07 - 07:52 PM

Hi - yes, you have to be registered and logged in, if you want to bid or sell in the auction. Otherwise, you can't be identified.

You can also list your folk cd's in a thread and have people contact you directly. But if you're not registered, people take more of a risk because they can't identify you at completely.

As for LP's, I think they're more-or-less the same worldwide, although they come in a variety of sizes. I think the speeds of records are standardized at 78 revolutions per minute, 45, 33-1/3, and (rarely) 16.

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Beer
Date: 12 Jan 07 - 08:17 PM

I think that is very fair Joe.
Beer.
Aka (adrien)

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: danensis
Date: 13 Jan 07 - 05:04 PM

I have two lots of books I am considering selling, (or giving to an appropriate institution). My late father in law was a chemist and metallurgist, specialising in wire rope making. I have a number of books on the subject. I'm told old text books don't sell too well, but these are slightly more technical than college texts.

The other lot are my late wife's books on everything from weaving, embroidery and textiles to fashion and home design. Some are from the 1930s, and many more from the 1970s and 1980s.

And going completely off the subject of books, she also left me dozens (perhaps scores) of bales of cotton lawn, which she was going to make into dolls clothes. The fabric was rescued from a firm thay dyed cotton, and which closed down during the 1940s. Great for anyone doing a period film about the 1940s!

John

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Jan 07 - 05:18 PM

John,

If you have free time on your hands then you're a natural for eBay. There is a learning curve for using it, and before you sell there it is a good idea to buy a few things to learn how it goes. I've been selling estate stuff since I started with eBay about a year and a half ago. Sometimes you just don't want to fool with an estate sale open to the public because things get jumbled, picked over, dismissed, and you can never be sure that people who would really want what you're selling are going to walk through the door. eBay is one of those places where you have a huge audience. You still have to wait for people to discover what you have for sale and the open market can be a fickle place, but the odds are much better.

Another of our Mudcatters was selling some fabric via eBay right when Katrina hit New Orleans and their fabric was destroyed in the flood. They were selling the yardage as it was, not cutting it into lengths, if I remember correctly. But you can do it however you wish, depending on the amount you have. It sounds like the fabric you have would be popular as vintage yardage. If you do research on this kind of thing at eBay be sure to look at Completed Sales (get there via the site map) as well as ongoing sales.

Whatever you sell, it is the research you do before hand that can make or break it. Listing it correctly and using the code words that will bring in the people who will bid on what you're selling is a challenge, but I have found it quite interesting. For the books you might want to look at Amazon as well as eBay.

Good luck!

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Jan 07 - 05:30 PM

John, welcome to the Mudcat. Sounds as if you have some interesting stuff. As SRS says, eBay might be the perfect place for you. Good luck!

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Jan 07 - 05:52 PM

If you have books to sell on any subject, a general bookselling thread like this is a good place to post information about those books. It seems much less commercial than starting an entire thread to advertise your books for sale.

One other thing - if you sell books for a living, people aren't as likely to welcome your sales efforts here - unless you're selling folk music books.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Folkiedave
Date: 13 Jan 07 - 06:04 PM

Since I added positively to the thread about self-promotion I thought I might do a bit.

I specialise in selling second-hand folk books. (I also do a few vinyl records but I do not buy vinyl nowadays). If you are looking for an immaculate copy of all four volumes of Bronson's Traditional Tunes to the Child Ballads then I have to tell you these will come expensive. I also have to tell you I can sell all I can get my hands on even at my prices!!

I try and sell around the median price off all sorts of second-hand lists but especially addall and ABE. Since reputation is everything in this business I only deal fairly. Many will testify to that. I buy at half those prices and that is standard for the trade. I sell via emailed lists and at festivals. Feel free to send your email address and I will ensure you are on the next list.

I rarely buy off ebay usually there is little margin in it for me so go for it, though I often see people paying daft prices on there when they could get them off me far less expensively. Good if you are selling.

I have a (badly out of date) website at www.collectorsfolk.co.uk and people can PM me here.

Virtually every single book over the past five years I have sold has gone to a singer or musician and my advice comes for free.

Anyone is welcome to visit my home in Sheffield to use the books for research under no obligation.

BUT NB - I only do folk music, folk song, folklore and folklife. So don't ask me about Agatha Christie. (Though my daughter collects Tom Adams covers......)

Dave Eyre

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Jan 07 - 07:04 PM

Dave, I really like the way you have your books listed! Thanks for the link.

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Jan 07 - 10:40 AM

Anyone have any experience selling on Yahoo Auctions? I just bought an LP - "Porches of the Poor" - on there. The fellow I bought it from has hundreds of items for sale and, from what I can tell, there are no fees for sellers.

Thanks,

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Jan 07 - 12:24 PM

The books I'm selling are from an estate, and the reason for using eBay is to target an audience. On occasion I've had sales go to someone who sells books, but the lion's share go to readers who like these authors. When I bundle different authors in a lot it is because I don't have very many of each. Selling fewer than three books seems to be a crap shoot at eBay and you pay much higher fees that way, so I group them by author or subject or kind of author. British women (Christie, James), women sleuths (Paretsky, Muller), western mysteries (Hillerman, Page), family (Kellermans), etc. I'm finding a number of these buyers are in places where getting out to a used bookstore to find the books by favorite authors is a challenge. That's why I think if Kat were to bundle books she buys wholesale, she might not make a lot of money, but she'd have a steady audience of readers who crave this kind of affordable access.

I also think being transparently and absolutely fair is the only way to sell on eBay. When I sell kids clothes, I see how many garments in the category (boys pants, size 10, for example) I can fit in the box. (We shop in a thrift store so my kids have a lot of clothes, all purchased in excellent condition or mended before I sell them. I sell nothing that is in poor shape). If I have 10 pair, that seems to me too many if someone is wanting a few for their son, so I'll put five pair per smallish boxes and list them at the same time. If someone wants both I will absolutely repack them into a larger box so they're not penalized by paying individual shipping on both auctions. This often happens. I usually also try to sell corresponding sized shirts at the same time, and I have had people buy three at once. I sell those by setting up the auction and then paying the 10 cents extra per to start them at a given time. I have them end 15 minutes apart and end on a weeknight evening.

This also applies to books. I've had people buy a couple of different lots and will repack them. Personally, I think this is the best way to interest people in your auctions, is to be upfront about condition, identify flaws, and be reasonable in the shipping. I won't get rich, but I have made steady little transfers from PayPal back into my bank account. And this kind of sale isn't taxed as income.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Jan 07 - 03:14 PM

That makes a lot of sense, SRS, at least for the wholesale paperbacks. I've have a lot of old hardbacks. Not sure if they would do better alone or in packs.

Thanks for all of your input.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Folkiedave
Date: 16 Jan 07 - 11:49 AM

Most S/H bookshops with potboilers (Grisham, Archer, Taylor Bradford etc) are not too keen on hard backs - their experience shows them they do not sell very well.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 11:46 AM

I just unloaded a textbook my daughter couldn't sell by listing it on Half.com. It wasn't difficult and it sold overnight because I dropped my price by about $5 under everyone else. They underpay you on shipping and they take a hefty commission, but we weren't going to get anything for the book at the U bookstore (a new edition is being used at her university now) and we cleared about $30 on a book she probably paid $80 for. Not good, but better than nothing.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Scrump
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 12:13 PM

The problem with selling books online is the cost of shipping them. I've sold books on ebay and made a loss, because of the commission on the sale and using Paypal. I gave up selling them there because of that.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 12:52 PM

The calculation of postage via USPS at the postal site is what you pay if you go to the post office. If you sell something via eBay and have posted the flat rate for shipping (I calculate by using my zip code here and putting in the zip code of my home town in Washington--generally as far away as I can manage on the continent) and use that as the advertised shipping cost, you can sometimes do a little better than break even. When I pay and print the label via PayPal there is usually a discount of some sort in there--sometimes only 50 cents or a dollar, sometimes several dollars. The post office usually charges the same on book rate whether it is going near or far. Parcel post is by zone. I don't know how to calculate that discount beforehand, and if a buyer wants to check on the accuracy of my rates they can see the standard cost at the USPS site. There's also a discount on the tracking fee (.14 vs .60). So I use PayPal for shipping when I can.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 09:05 PM

DANENSIS - You probably missed the Hot-Spot for your father's metalurgical books. Up until five years ago they would have been "paper-gold" to lawyers in the asbestos lawsuits.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Some simple 20 page booklets fetched $500 US and more.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 11:45 PM

Gargoyle, you're correct. People are compensating for apparent low prices on items they sell by charging higher than necessary shipping fees. eBay is aiming at getting sellers to charge reasonable shipping fees while half.com underpays any shipping so the cost has to be built into the sales.

ABE and Bookfinder are great for finding books (I've purchased hard-to-find scholarly books through them many times) but for someone who isn't a business themself, is it really a practical place? I've had books that were hard to move on eBay that go for quite high prices on ABE--I figure my low $ sales add to the supply of some of the high sellers. But how would one get their catalog of books for sale listed at ABE? They must charge something somewhere along the way. And how do they judge the viability of the businesses offering these books?

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 01:30 AM

They do, SRS, and they have just raised their fees to booksellers in the past year. The bookstore I mentioned which is offering the affiliate program stopped listing with them because of their fee increases. I was disappointed until she told me why as it gave me a quick easy online way to check her inventory before I actually went shopping in her store.

A person can download ABE's software and catalogue their own library, use it to upload it to their site, etc. if one wants to pay their fees. I haven't compared them to ebay's etc., so can't say which I think would be best. Their software is easy to use.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Kim C
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 01:51 PM

I've had good luck getting rid of used books on Amazon.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 02:58 PM

Interesting. Does ABE charge per sale or is the a monthly fee? The range in sales prices out there makes me wonder if the folks who do some of the listing ever compare prices? Why would you buy a book for $70 when you can get one apparently in the identical condition and edition for $12? Yet those inconsistencies are out there, and the high prices for not particularly rare books really skew the research.

I've also heard about having items listed in multiple listings and pulling it if it sells at auction. Dicey to do it that way.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: danensis
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 03:59 PM

Well, accoring to their website The Pricing Model is as follows:

Monthly Subscription Rates
For a reasonable [!] monthly subscription fee, which is calculated according to the amount of books you list, your books will be listed worldwide:
Number of Books        Rate per Month
0-500         £ 17.00
501-4000         £ 25.00
4001-10000         £ 28.00
10001-20000         £ 35.00
20001-30000         £ 53.00
30001-50000         £ 83.00
50001-100000         £ 116.00
100001-150000         £ 150.00
150001+         £ 200.00


Transaction Fees
Upon a successful sale via the Abebooks shopping basket, a sales commission of 8% is incurred. The maximum sales commission is £22.00 per book. When processing Visa/MasterCard payments, Abebooks will charge an additional processing fee of 5.5% of the total order value (all prices are recognised as net value).

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: danensis
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 04:08 PM

Has anyone tried these people:

http://www.therota.net/books

Seems quite an interesting idea,

John

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 04:09 PM

It's based on how many books you list and in the USA minimum monthly fee is $25 plus 8% of each sale. There is a max of, I think it is, $40 for their percentage of a sale. The more books you have on there, the higher the monthly fee. Also, if you don't have paypal or a way to accept credt cards, they will do it for you, for a fee. I think it is 5.5%.

The only rhyme or reason I can see to someone selling for a lot more there is they know a lot more about the worth of a book than the average person? Or, they THINK they do. Also, I think it works well for them in getting buyers who don't want to bother with auctions. I've bought several books from them, at slightly higher prices, because they were fairly rare and/or out-of-print or something else a friend or family member wanted and I wanted a really special, clean copy for them. I will pay extra if I think it is a better edition.

I haven't checked with bookfinder. Might do that just to see what they offer.

KimC, thanks for the info.

I have been getting my ducks in a row - pix taken, hosting site set for pix, etc.

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 04:13 PM

Sorry, John, we must've cross-posted. I tried your link and it didn't work. I backed it up to just "rota" without the 'books" at the end and it said I needed to sign in. Do you have a different addy for them?

As someone else has said, a good place to compare prices is at www.addall.com

Thanks for the info.

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Folkiedave
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 04:22 PM

I am a second-hand bookseller specialising in folk books.

Differences in book prices can sometimes be explained and sometimes not.

Explanation why they are different sometimes is due to condition. This is rarely important to folkies - what they tend to want is words and tunes to songs and the fact that the book is in perfect condition versus what is known in the trade as a "reading copy" i.e. falling apart at the seams is rarely important. To a book dealer this is not understood so they might have two identical books and price them accordingly.

What normally differentiates a book on price are things like condition, edition and provenance (like the author's or sometimes the owner's signature). These can sometimes be marginal. Remember to a normal book seller - i.e. not me who understands these things!! - a first edition hardback against a worn paperback can be vastly different - to a folkie there might not be that much difference because they are identical in content.

There are vast differences in editions. Try sorting out the various editions of "Folk Songs from the Appalachians". Look at the databases and you will see some dealers mistake the "80 Folk Songs from the Appalachians" a little thin paperback, (ought to be £10.00) with the 1960 edition of the same book "FSFTA" which is the two volume set of 1932 (off the top of my head) at £250.00 for two volumes, put into one volume at £150.00. That's apart from describing the 1932 edition as a second edition when it is a totally different book. So the First edition 1917 is less valuable than the second edition (which isn't a second edition anyway). Follow all that?

Some books in a series were printed in lesser numbers than others - Bronson being a notorious example of this where Volume 4 was not produced in the same numbers as Volume 1. Which is why Bronson 4 is hard to find and fetches higher prices than 1, 2, and 3.

Some booksellers may not have updated prices since they added them to a database. A good example of this is the 5 volume set of Dover Child of 1965 (or thereabouts). It used to be around £250.00 - £350.00 depending on condition. But then Loomis House started producing a much better edition and the price of the Dover dropped like a stone. I sold a set at £50.00. Then people desperate for a copy of Child realised the Loomis House edition would not be completed in five minutes. So the price is going up again. Currently £100.00.

Blatant self advert I have all the books mentioned. Not the Bronson.

Hope this helps and ask away - I will try and help.

Dave Eyre

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 04:26 PM

Thanks, Dave. I was thinking all of these things were a given, though I do NOT know all of the ins and outs of it all. (I am still trying to find someone nearby who can tell me just how rare my "Tramp Abroad" is worth.) It's really good to have them spelled out by an experienced sell such as yourself.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Kim C
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 05:27 PM

Kat, with Amazon you don't have to take photos --- if you have the ISBN numbers, they usually have a stock photo you can use.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 05:42 PM

Thanks, Kim. That will work fine with the paperbacks, but most of my hardbacks are "collectibles" with no ISBN's. I thought I could find assigned ISBNs for them, as I'd advised SRS, but it didn't work the way I thought it would. Also, I like to see a picture of what I am buying so...figure I should extend the courtesy for them, at least.:-)

Appreciate it,

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 07:09 PM

Kat, where are you going to list your books, have you decided yet?

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 08:18 PM

Nope, SRS. I am thinking probably amazon for the paperbacks and ebay for the hardbacks - the old ones. Whatcha think? (I've based this a lot on what you and a couple of others have recommended. Thanks, again!)

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: A Wandering Minstrel
Date: 19 Jan 07 - 08:37 AM

For unwanted paperbacks and to encourage a little environmental conciousness I can recommend these guys

Green Metropolis

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Jan 07 - 11:18 AM

Wow! That is wonderful, Wandering Minstrel! I would love to sell the paperbacks through that, but does it work in the USA, too?

Thanks!

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: danensis
Date: 19 Jan 07 - 04:25 PM

Sorry Kat,

Try xbooks.co.uk or http://www.therota.net/books/faq.aspx

therota seems something quite different!

John

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 19 Jan 07 - 07:57 PM

THANK you S.R.S.!!

It is particularly validating - when someone makes reference in a thread to one of my previous thread-postings that has been "Expunged/Deleated" for "Nastiness" or someother crone's imagined "Crimes"

Antique Book Emporium is IMHO the BEST.

They are reasonable at both ends of the spectrum Buyer/Seller.

College Bookstores are beginning to quack and quake as the earth begins to move under their feet of clay.

The small store in Kentucky or Oregon now has the exposeur of one on Charing Cross Road.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: danensis
Date: 20 Jan 07 - 12:03 PM

Didn't ABE get boycotted by the Federation of Booksellers or whatever they're called because of a change in their pricing policy, or am I thinking of someone else?

John

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Jan 07 - 01:02 AM

Gargoyle, you have your grim moments, to be sure, but are a helluva lot more interesting than some of the others who have been banned from Mudcat. (I think it's your interest in bawdy songs that made me decide you are okay--there's work involved in that research).

I get the impression you're selling high dollar more specialized books, and ABE is a practical place to get listed. Though I've thought about the possibility of buying wholesale lots of books and arranging them into small lots to resell, that takes planning, space, and time. Is that what you're doing? Or are you buying estates or other bulk sources of books?

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: danensis
Date: 21 Jan 07 - 11:06 AM

I knew I'd seen it somewhere:

http://www.aba.org.uk/abeprotest.htm

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 21 Jan 07 - 01:19 PM

Thanks, John, for the link.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Jan 07 - 05:07 PM

Since I am not an experienced, nor professional, bookseller I don't feel qualified to apply to sell books on a site I found, but I did want to let you all know about it: Biblio.com. The link is to their seller's terms, etc.

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Jan 07 - 05:36 PM

Won't be selling this one. My grandfather felt strongly about his books. Here's what he wrote in one of them:

"This volume is the property of one ***** ****** a resident of village, hamlet, or town of Carbondale which is situated near the foot of Sopris. Whosoever shall steal this book may the hungry hounds of hell pursue his soul through the eternal fires of damnation until the same are congealed by the frost of the big winter."

Subject: RE: BS: Best way to sell used books online?
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Jan 07 - 06:25 PM

Having fun looking up old books. Found a neat site HERE a sort of stump the booksellers/solve the mystery searchable forum.