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Folklore: Pogue Mahone

MartinRyan 10 Feb 04 - 07:28 AM
Seamus Kennedy 10 Feb 04 - 06:39 AM
GUEST 10 Feb 04 - 06:32 AM
GUEST,Pedant 10 Feb 04 - 06:22 AM
Big Tim 10 Feb 04 - 06:14 AM
Lighter 09 Feb 04 - 11:12 PM
michaelr 09 Feb 04 - 07:26 PM
GUEST,Bill Kennedy 09 Feb 04 - 04:22 PM
Big Tim 09 Feb 04 - 04:15 PM
Lyrical Lady 09 Feb 04 - 03:36 PM
GUEST,Pedant 09 Feb 04 - 02:55 PM
Lyrical Lady 09 Feb 04 - 12:32 PM
GUEST,Bill Kennedy 09 Feb 04 - 09:08 AM
GUEST,Bill Kennedy 09 Feb 04 - 09:07 AM
breezy 09 Feb 04 - 07:17 AM
GUEST,An Púca 09 Feb 04 - 02:59 AM
Cluin 09 Feb 04 - 12:32 AM
Bob Bolton 08 Feb 04 - 11:26 PM
Lyrical Lady 08 Feb 04 - 11:13 PM
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Subject: RE: Pogue Mahone
From: MartinRyan
Date: 10 Feb 04 - 07:28 AM

"pogue YOUR mahone" - some pedant!

Regards


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Subject: RE: Pogue Mahone
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 10 Feb 04 - 06:39 AM

And in the old Bowery Boys movies, Leo Gorcey occasionally played a character called Pug Mahoney.

Seamus


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Subject: RE: Pogue Mahone
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Feb 04 - 06:32 AM

Will you to get married and have done with it.


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Subject: RE: Pogue Mahone
From: GUEST,Pedant
Date: 10 Feb 04 - 06:22 AM

"Fuck off you nasty eegit" not terribly lyrical nor ladylike. Besides eejit is spelt with a j not a g. Who knows I might rather like to pogue your mahone.


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Subject: RE: Pogue Mahone
From: Big Tim
Date: 10 Feb 04 - 06:14 AM

And of course it also gave the Pogues their name!


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Subject: RE: Pogue Mahone
From: Lighter
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 11:12 PM

As a footnote, I recently saw a World War II photo of a USAAC B-17 bomber with the nickname "Pog Mahone" painted on its nose. Fortunately, there was no accompanying illustration.


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Subject: RE: Pogue Mahone
From: michaelr
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 07:26 PM

Yeah, Bill! That verse makes the song!

Cheers,
Michael


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Subject: RE: Pogue Mahone
From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 04:22 PM

it's a verse of the song, should be in everybody's version:

Now the Queen she came to call on us, she wanted to see all of us
I'm glad she didn't fall on us, she's eighteen stone.
"Mister Melord the Mayor," says she, "Is this all you've got to
show me?"
"Why, no ma'am there's some more to see, Pog mo thoin!"
And he took her up etc.


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Subject: RE: Pogue Mahone
From: Big Tim
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 04:15 PM

The phrase crops up in the Dubliners' version of "Monto".


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Subject: RE: Pogue Mahone
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 03:36 PM

Pogue Mahone to you then....sweet guest Pedant. Oh... one more thing....fuck off ....ya nasty eegit.


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Subject: RE: Pogue Mahone
From: GUEST,Pedant
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 02:55 PM

Lyrical Lady

apart from your inability to fathom that Mahone was an arse not a person I think you should also be told that it is a surname not a sir name.

blessings


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Subject: RE: Pogue Mahone
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 12:32 PM

Now I get it! So Pogue Mahone is nothing more than the english phonetic spelling of pog mo thoin! I was wondering if the sir name Mahone also entered into the joke? Seems "Kiss my Ass" is a funny name for a pub?
Thank you all for your help.
LL


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Subject: RE: Pogue Mahone
From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 09:08 AM

sorry, so in a phrase it would be written 'póg mo thóin'

long 'o' as in 'home'


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Subject: RE: Pogue Mahone
From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 09:07 AM

to follow up 'AN Puca''s post, lenition is a softening of the consonant. in this case the possessive pronoun 'my' - 'mo' requires lenition , so 'tóin' becomes 'thóin'; the initial 't' is 'softened', it becomes silent, so pronounced 'hone'


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Subject: RE: Pogue Mahone
From: breezy
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 07:17 AM

so its not Port then


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Subject: RE: Pogue Mahone
From: GUEST,An Púca
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 02:59 AM

Póg - kiss
mo - my (causing lenition of following consonant)
tóin - arse.

Mac Mahon or Mahoney from Ó/Mac Mathghamhna (Mod. Mathúna). Mathghamhain was an old word for bear (another was milchobur 'honey-lover'). Gamhain is still used for a one-year old calf.

Connacht Irish stresses the first syllable of words; Munster Irish stresses the second syllable; therefore, when Munster speakers say "Mac Mathúna" it is phonetically equivalent to "mac mo thóna" in Connacht Irish (ó becomes ú when close to a nasal 'n').

Therein the joke of the butt.


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Subject: RE: Pogue Mahone
From: Cluin
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 12:32 AM

Pog = kiss
mo = my
hone = hind end


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Subject: RE: Pogue Mahone
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 08 Feb 04 - 11:26 PM

G'day LL,

I do remember a radio program about Carolan dealing with some recorded instances of feuding between harpers. A harper named McMahon accused Carolan of not speaking English ... and Carolan retorted that he knew the English for "McMahon": 'son of an arse'! (I will mention that persons I know called MacMahon swear that it actually means 'son of the bear' ...!).

Anyway, this suggests that there is a longstanding Gaelic word that can be so construed ... but you need a Gaelic speaker!

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: Pogue Mahone
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 08 Feb 04 - 11:13 PM

I know this is gealic for "Kiss my Ass" but can anyone come up with an origin to this saying. IE: who was Mahone ...is it a Sir name of significance? I also know that this is the name of many Irish Pubs and a band as well. Thanks...

LL


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