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Subject: RE: BS: OPEN LETTER TO JOHN KERRY From: CarolC Date: 20 Feb 04 - 11:29 AM Based on his opening post to this thread, we have no reason to expect that tar_heel ever saw any kind of military service whatever. We don't even have any reason to expect that he knows anything at all about the Vietnam war. All we know is that he's good at copy-pasting other people's words, and using them to try to make a point that he is, apparently, incapable of making himself. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OPEN LETTER TO JOHN KERRY From: GUEST Date: 20 Feb 04 - 11:19 AM I'm sorry I even feel a need to post but sweet sufferin Jaysus is it ever enough? Thanx UK Guest for your useless opine, every vote counts. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OPEN LETTER TO JOHN KERRY From: Jack the Sailor Date: 20 Feb 04 - 12:57 AM An open letter to Don Bendell Canon City, Colorado You wrote this??? My wife had rotator cuff surgery earlier this year, and the recovery is terribly painful. Then, she developed a staph-epi infection, and they had to cut the same scar open and operate on her again. Just thinking about the pain and anxiety of facing that painful surgery a second time in the same wound, makes me cringe. That experience, however pales in comparison to what I am going through right now, in my heart. The old hurts are surfacing and the feelings of betrayal by fellow citizens, and their leader stirring them up, are breaking my heart again. I am being cut in the same scar. You big insufferable five year old cry baby!!!! How dare you compare your hurt feelings to your wife's real pain. Grow up!! You are denegrating the memory of your fallen comrades with this clearly partisan rant. Jack the Sailor If you wish to answer me personally register and send me a P.M. I'm not trying to belittle the hurt feelings returning Vietnam Vets might have had. But this is clearly rhetorical B.S. Clearly there were soldiers convicted of all those things that Kerry spoke of when protesting the war also it is clear the Mr. Bush Chose not to volunteer for the war and that Mr. Kerry did. Tar_Heel what the heck is wrong with you? Why did you post this whinefest? Get over it! Get a life!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: OPEN LETTER TO JOHN KERRY From: Little Hawk Date: 20 Feb 04 - 12:54 AM He's not talking about you, tarheel, and I doubt that he was talking about most American soldiers in Vietnam, but he was referring to things that actually happened and that matter. Are you aware that in WWII it was pretty routine for American pilots in the Pacific to strafe and kill hundreds of Japanese survivors in the water after ships sank? War crimes. It is also true that the Japanese did the same thing to Allied survivors. There was tremendous brutality on both sides. Are you aware that American pilots in '44 and '45 were given instructions to freely strafe anything that they considered might be of benefit to the German economy? This included any man, woman, or child they saw, any farm animal in a field, any living thing in effect that moved on German ground aside from a wild animal. And they did it. I read a book about Chuck Yeager. He and one of the other American pilots were talking about it one day, and the guy remarked, "I hope to God we win this war, cos we're in a whole heap of trouble if we don't." Well, they won it, and you don't hear much about that stuff now. There were lots of American soldiers who, like you, served honorably in Vietnam and in previous wars. There were also bad apples, bad policies, units that went berserk on some occasions, and there were war crimes. Kerry just happens to be a Democrat, which you don't like, and he happens to have drawn attention to specific incidents that you'd rather not know about or hear about. That doesn't mean you, personally, have been accused by him of anything whatsoever, nor is it a blanket condemnation of American soldiers. Another thing: At the end of WWII there were any number of German soldiers who had never personally committed war crimes, had served honorably, and some did not believe that their side would or could ever commit war crimes. Sound familiar? Loyalty to flag, unit, and country is a powerful thing, and there are good and honorable men (plenty of them) in ALL armies. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: OPEN LETTER TO JOHN KERRY From: Sorcha Date: 20 Feb 04 - 12:36 AM LadyJean, I beg to differ. The very first Nat'l Gaurdsman to be killed in VietNam was from my home town unit....The Gaurd DID die in Nam. Lots of them. I have NO clue about the above letter, except that tar_heel didn't write it...just pasted it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OPEN LETTER TO JOHN KERRY From: LadyJean Date: 20 Feb 04 - 12:05 AM I was talking with a Vietnam veteran tonight. He said being in the National Guard, during the Vietnam era was one way of avoiding the draft. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OPEN LETTER TO JOHN KERRY From: Rapparee Date: 19 Feb 04 - 10:56 PM On approximately April 13, 1968, Lyndon Johnson activated 24,000 reservists and National Guardsmen. They were federalized on May 13, 1968 for up to two years active duty, and released around the middle of August, 1969. About 10,000 of these served in Vietnam; some died there. They came from Illinois, Indiana, Idaho, Kansas, and other states. I know this. I was one of them, as was my brother and several of my cousins. We joined before there were waiting lists, and we knew that there was a chance of call-up. We tossed the dice and lost, so we went. This is for your information, not to take a side one way or the other. I can say, however, that those who ended up on a waiting list and were then drafted before they got into a reserve unit would have a right to be angry about those who were given preference -- and that DID happen. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OPEN LETTER TO JOHN KERRY From: beadie Date: 19 Feb 04 - 09:59 PM Tar Heel: [Pardon the premature post] No flame, just a question . . . . How many National Guard types did you encounter while in-country? I suspect that the fact that Lt. Kerry's testimony before Congress was in 1971 influenced his reference to the relative safety of National Guard service AT THAT TIME. He was in no position to anticipate the degradation of active forces in the future that would occasion the necessity of using formerly "home guard" troops in active combat when he formed the opinion, as did so many others, that National Guard service during the Vietnam War was an easy, and legal, "out." As a vet against the war, myself, I also believe that many young men in 1971 would have paid dearly for a slot in their local guard unit, just as a way to avoid getting shot at. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OPEN LETTER TO JOHN KERRY From: beadie Date: 19 Feb 04 - 09:49 PM Tar Heel: |
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Subject: RE: BS: OPEN LETTER TO JOHN KERRY From: Walking Eagle Date: 19 Feb 04 - 08:23 PM Our Tar Heal sounds like a plant from the RNC. Yawn, I'm tired from working my non-productive 60 hours. |
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Subject: RE: BS: OPEN LETTER TO JOHN KERRY From: Gareth Date: 19 Feb 04 - 07:56 PM Guest 07.53 Err, Don't yer mean "you could not vote for him .... Gareth |
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Subject: RE: BS: OPEN LETTER TO JOHN KERRY From: GUEST Date: 19 Feb 04 - 07:53 PM From the UK. I wouldn't vote for him as your next President! But is your voting system robust enough to ensure a fair result to reflect the wishes of your voters?? |
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Subject: BS: OPEN LETTER TO JOHN KERRY From: tar_heel Date: 19 Feb 04 - 07:30 PM Open Letter to John Kerry: My wife had rotator cuff surgery earlier this year, and the recovery is terribly painful. Then, she developed a staph-epi infection, and they had to cut the same scar open and operate on her again.
-Joe Offer- |
