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Roots music on BBC4 - Friday/Saturday

Beardy 26 Feb 04 - 10:44 AM
Geoff the Duck 26 Feb 04 - 12:31 PM
okthen 26 Feb 04 - 12:49 PM
Beardy 27 Feb 04 - 07:32 AM
The Shambles 27 Feb 04 - 12:57 PM
The Shambles 28 Feb 04 - 02:42 AM
greg stephens 28 Feb 04 - 03:07 AM
The Shambles 28 Feb 04 - 01:35 PM
Ed. 28 Feb 04 - 02:02 PM
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Subject: Roots music on BBC4 - Friday/Saturday
From: Beardy
Date: 26 Feb 04 - 10:44 AM

For anyone interested who has'nt seen the TV listings these are this weeks offerings

2100 Celtic Connections    Highlights of this years festival
2200 Ralph Stanley         Live at the Barbican
2300 Laura Cantrell
Running order repeated from 0030

These 3 shows are also shown on Saturday from 2340 but in a different order.


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Subject: RE: Roots music on BBC4 - Friday/Saturday
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 26 Feb 04 - 12:31 PM

Any further details?


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Subject: RE: Roots music on BBC4 - Friday/Saturday
From: okthen
Date: 26 Feb 04 - 12:49 PM

scroll down for friday


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Subject: RE: Roots music on BBC4 - Friday/Saturday
From: Beardy
Date: 27 Feb 04 - 07:32 AM

I could have included a lot more detail but I'm lazy plus you get lots of abuse and suggestions you may be a fan of people when only trying to assist people in seeing/hearing someone they might not know. God forbid it might be suggested I liked Jim Moray who is featured in the Celtic Connections show.


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Subject: RE: Roots music on BBC4 - Friday/Saturday
From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Feb 04 - 12:57 PM

1 of 2 shows on at 21.00 and again at 12.35 - Celtic Connections featuring Joan Baez, Carlos Nunez, Fiddlers' Bid and Jim Moray.

Next Friday you can see Ricardo Tesi and Salsa Celtica.

By pressing your 'red interactive button' you can "go behind the scenes". Whatever that may mean....


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Subject: RE: Roots music on BBC4 - Friday/Saturday
From: The Shambles
Date: 28 Feb 04 - 02:42 AM

The Celtic Connections show has three artists but according to its producers - this requires 2 presenters!

Fiddler's Bid were great. Though one minor quibble the band features 4 fine young fiddlers and there were making the point that there is a fiddle in just about every Shetland home. Nice though the tune is why then is a tune featuring the fairly untypical Shetland instrument - the harp selected to be shown? The 'interactive' sub-titles went into great detail on this 'Scottish' instrument and its place in 'Scottish' culture and rather gave the impression that it was also true in Shetland. I lived there for 12 years and never saw or heard   the harp played - in all that time.

Ralph Stanley was a good show with few gimmicks except for some reason known only to its producers - this music needed to be shown in black-and white? It had the usual problem of directors going close-up on the mandolin when it is the banjo's solo and vice-versa but apart from this was just showing the live performance.


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Subject: RE: Roots music on BBC4 - Friday/Saturday
From: greg stephens
Date: 28 Feb 04 - 03:07 AM

Thje harp addition to the Shetland music was interesting. The sort of "Celtic twilight" spin that has been applied to most Scottish and Irish music(witht the glorious exception of the Dubliners) has mercifully not reached the Shetlands(like the Gaels!). So I was a little disappointed by this aspect of last night's broadcast. I love harps, but in this case it was not just a harp. It was an editorial intrusion, a piece of ersatz "Celticisation" based on the modern image of the harp, not its actual history or music.
There is nothing distictively Celtic about harps, any more than there is anything Celtic about bodhrans, but they can be manipulated into appearing so.


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Subject: RE: Roots music on BBC4 - Friday/Saturday
From: The Shambles
Date: 28 Feb 04 - 01:35 PM

I agree but I think the use of the harp in the band is generally used very well and probably reflects the influences of many new instruments and styles that have found their way to Shetland in the time that I have left the islands. The annual folk festival has certainly paid a major role in that and in producing some fine performers and bands and in leading many of the visiting performers astray........

I remember Dave Swarbrick giving a fiddle workshop in one of the first festivals. He was asked his opinion on how to hold the fiddle and bow and replied that as long as you were comfortable - it did not matter if you held it up your bum. Or words to that effect. This was taken as heresy and also as a bit of liberation, for the main teaching influence there at that time always insisted that everyone held the fiddle the same and also bowed together - like a classical ensemble.


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Subject: RE: Roots music on BBC4 - Friday/Saturday
From: Ed.
Date: 28 Feb 04 - 02:02 PM

You need to lighten up, Roger


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