Help with concertina (Yorkshire)

Subject: Help with concertina (Yorkshire)
From: Allan C.
Date: 04 Mar 04 - 07:08 PM

New Mudcatter adrien posted this request elsewhere. I've pasted it here for her.

From: adrien - PM
Date: 04 Mar 04 - 06:57 PM

I could do with some help in playing irish music on the concertina

anywhere in yorkshire can anyone help ?

Adrien

Subject: RE: Help with concertina (Yorkshire)
From: harpmaker
Date: 04 Mar 04 - 07:21 PM

Is it an english or european concertina?

Subject: RE: Help with concertina (Yorkshire)
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 04 Mar 04 - 08:17 PM

G'day Adrien, Allan C & harpmaker,

I guess that the essence of harpmaker's question is "What (tuning) system is your concertina ... presuming that you already have one ...?" Although, Adrien's question may have been :"Who, around Yorkshire, can help/teach/advise on playing Irish music?".

I can't help on that one - but, in general terms, the concertina you really want to have is a classic London-made 36+ key Anglo-chromatic type ... and they cost £1000s these days, since the Irish-music-enthusiasts have bought them all! It is possible to play Irish music on other types ... including the English system (tied with the concert flute as the fastest melody-playing intrument in existence) ... but the Irish won't talk to you!

There are some good modern-made Anglos using hybrid concertina/accordion manufacture from Italian factories like Stagi - and somewhat better ones from rather smaller makers trying to produce affordable instruments that don't require you to mortgage the family home.

Regards,

Bob Bolton (Australia)

Subject: RE: Help with concertina (Yorkshire)
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 04 Mar 04 - 08:24 PM

If you play an anglo the you will probably find THE IRISH CONCERTINA by Mick Bramich very useful. published by Dave Mallinson Publications ISBN 1-899512-25-X      http//www.mally.com Ithink it was about twelve quid

Subject: RE: Help with concertina (Yorkshire)
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 04 Mar 04 - 08:47 PM

ps There is also the Yorkshire Concertina Club run by Jane Edwards whose e mail address is   jedwards@wrenbeck,u-net.com

Subject: RE: Help with concertina (Yorkshire)
From: harpmaker
Date: 04 Mar 04 - 09:10 PM

Ok, Ok, I ment 'Anglo' not european. Just got mixed up a bit.------- Thats all.

Subject: RE: Help with concertina (Yorkshire)
From: harpmaker
Date: 04 Mar 04 - 09:14 PM

Subject: RE: Help with concertina (Yorkshire)
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 10 Mar 04 - 02:16 PM

Adrien - if you are in Yorkshire get to the Music Room in Cleckheaton and chat with Jill Noppen-Spacie (check when shes there first as she only works part time).

Subject: RE: Help with concertina (Yorkshire)
From: GUEST,Les from Hull
Date: 10 Mar 04 - 10:46 PM

One of the best players of Irish music on the Anglo is a Yorkshireman. Check out Chris Sherburn (Last Night's Fun). if he has a local gig.

Les

Subject: RE: Help with concertina (Yorkshire)
From: GUEST,Kurt Braun
Date: 10 Mar 04 - 10:48 PM

Run, don't walk, to concertina.net

The forum will introduce you to lots of informed people.

Subject: RE: Help with concertina (Yorkshire)
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Mar 04 - 10:43 AM

Subject: RE: Help with concertina (Yorkshire)
From: GUEST,Geoff Lawes
Date: 11 Mar 04 - 11:00 AM

Last Nights Fun are on at Beverley at The White Horse (Nellies)in three weeks time Monday 29 MARCH 8.30 TEL [phone]

Subject: RE: Help with concertina (Yorkshire)
From: alanww
Date: 11 Mar 04 - 11:24 AM

Yorkshire is a big place, Adrien (well by English standards at least - but I agree its not like California is BIG)!
Anyway, by coincidence today I received my International Concertina Association's Newsletter and in its Music Supplement it gives a list of people willing to act as voluntary mentors (rather than paid teachers). It includes:-
Barry Callaghan from Sheffield, who plays the Anglo,
Dave Ball from South Yorkshire, who plays English,
Dave Turner, from Stockton on Tees (well I know its not Yorkshire but you may live in the far north ...!), who plays English and
Geoff Wright from Doncaster, who plays both Anglo C/G and English (clever fellow!).
If you are interested please PM me and I will forward their telephone numbers and/or emails addresses!
"Abroad for pleasure, as I was a-walking ...!"
Alan

Subject: RE: Help with concertina (Yorkshire)
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 11 Mar 04 - 12:36 PM

Last night's fun are also at Slaithwaite/Marsden on Sat 27th March-now http://www.dejabe.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/sherbart/ that is what you call playing!(Should not be missed-anywhere)

Subject: RE: Help with concertina (Yorkshire)
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 11 Mar 04 - 01:33 PM

Where in Yorkshire are you based, Adrien?

Subject: RE: Help with concertina (Yorkshire)
From: Fliss
Date: 11 Mar 04 - 08:42 PM

I play Irish music on an English concertina... Lachenal c 1880. But Im in Shropshire. Our session at the Boat Inn, Jackfield is one of the best Irish music sessions anywhere!

Wheatstone and Lachenal and others experimented with different systems, Anglo, English and Duet. Irish music tends to be played on the Anglo system as it fits in better with the style of the music. Some of the triplets are difficult on the English. But I love it and wouldnt swap it for anything, Ive owned it since I was 9 and have only been learning Irish music for the past 4 years.

There are the Concertinas at Witney workshops each autumn, but thats in oxfordshire.

Last nights fun are in Whitchurch, Shropshire this coming Saturday... The concertina playing by Chris is wow. Dont know as yet whether I will be going to see them as Im going to the St Pats day parade in Brum on sunday.

Hope you find a good teacher and a good session.

slan leat

fliss

Subject: RE: Help with concertina (Yorkshire)
From: GUEST,Andy
Date: 12 Mar 04 - 02:25 AM

Each month on the first Sunday, there's a play around at the Jolly Sailor pub on thorns lane Wakefield. There's always a plague of concertina players in there, and they are a friendly lot and I should think at least one of them should be able to point you in the right direction

Subject: RE: Help with concertina (Yorkshire)
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Mar 04 - 07:20 AM

Mrs Duck plays concertina and can be found in the same sessions as Geoff Wright on a Wednesday at The Jug near Selby

Subject: RE: Help with concertina (Yorkshire)
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 12 Mar 04 - 01:36 PM

Its at least three years since the sessions at the Jug ended. Nowadays we move around on a fortnightly basis.
Next Wednesday 17th The Black Dog Camblesforth
Wed after 24th George & Dragon West Haddlesey
Wed after 31st Jemmy Hirst Rawcliffe
Wed after 6th    George & Dragon
I bought an English concertina last August and play very well in the comfort of my own living room but tend to fall apart when trying to keep up in a session! There are one or two of us beginners+ in the session plus Geoff who is an excellent player.

Subject: RE: Help with concertina (Yorkshire)
From: Glynis
Date: 12 Mar 04 - 03:18 PM

Log on to 'Folkworks' website. They have an Absolute Beginners tuition day on lots of instruments, including concertina. They also have a week long summer school, again lots of different instruments to chose from, for young people and for adults. The day is in Ryton, Tyne and Wear, and the week is in Durham. Out of Yorkshire, I know, but both really good opportunities.

Get yourself on the Folkworks mailing list and be inspired.

If you PM me your email address/telephone number, I'll pass it on to a friend of mine, Chantal Noppen (daughter of Jill Noppen-Spacie referred to above) who is on the Folk Degree with me in Newcastle, lives in Yorkshire during the holidays and teaches concertina. She'll probably want to know where in Yorkshire you live and to what standard do you play - absolute beginner, learner, more advanced.

Glynis

Subject: RE: Help with concertina (Yorkshire)
From: Allan C.
Date: 13 Mar 04 - 01:48 PM

For what it may be worth, I PM'd Adrien when I first posted this thread, explained that I had created it and gave a link to it. I've not heard anything since. Meanwhile you kind folks have deposited a wealth of resources here for which anyone just learning to play the concertina would be lucky to have. The info about learning opportunities in the Yorkshire area would be especially helpful, were Adrien to return to read them.

Subject: RE: Help with concertina (Yorkshire)
From: GUEST,helen
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 06:43 PM

Hi - If you want to find out about the Yorkshire Concertina Club we have a website that tells you when our meetings will be and what we will be doing. We usually have a band session from 12.00 till 1.30 and then a workshop from 2 till 4.30 or so. Not sure how to make a link but if you type in Yorkshire Concertina Club you'll find us. Cheers, Helen