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Lyr Req: The Black Bear

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The Black Bear (a traditional pipe march sequenced by Matthew Richards (MattR))


Macdubh@aol.com 28 Sep 98 - 08:23 PM
Bruce O. 28 Sep 98 - 08:44 PM
Angus 29 Sep 98 - 01:11 AM
Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca 29 Sep 98 - 01:14 AM
Pete M 29 Sep 98 - 04:36 PM
Bruce O. 29 Sep 98 - 06:29 PM
Mo 30 Sep 98 - 07:23 PM
John in Brisbane 01 Oct 98 - 01:45 AM
Bruce O. 01 Oct 98 - 11:47 AM
Jerry Friedman 02 Oct 98 - 06:48 PM
Angus 06 Oct 98 - 03:13 AM
GUEST,an exile 11 Sep 03 - 12:16 AM
Teribus 11 Sep 03 - 04:00 AM
GUEST 12 Sep 03 - 02:43 AM
LadyJean 12 Sep 03 - 08:26 PM
GUEST,Boab 13 Sep 03 - 02:21 AM
Teribus 17 Sep 03 - 10:57 AM
akenaton 17 Sep 03 - 05:19 PM
Strupag 18 Sep 03 - 04:49 AM
Jim McLean 18 Sep 03 - 05:57 PM
HuwG 19 Sep 03 - 09:38 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 23 Jul 04 - 02:01 PM
masato sakurai 23 Jul 04 - 08:27 PM
GUEST,Willie Hutton 08 Aug 14 - 11:01 AM
GUEST,Willie Hutton 08 Aug 14 - 11:05 AM
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Subject: Scots Wha' ha'
From: Macdubh@aol.com
Date: 28 Sep 98 - 08:23 PM

I have just learned that an old Scottish Pipe tune called the "Black Bear" Has words to it! If anyone out there has them or knows where to find them please let me know. thank you


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Subject: RE: Scots Wha' ha'
From: Bruce O.
Date: 28 Sep 98 - 08:44 PM

"Scots wha hae wi Wallace bled" is a song by Burns to the tune of "Hey tutti taitie". What or where is "Black Bear"?


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Subject: RE: Scots Wha' ha'
From: Angus
Date: 29 Sep 98 - 01:11 AM

The Black Bear would have tae be one of the most famous and inspiring marching tunes of all time. Unfortunately I dinnae have the words tae it.


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Subject: RE: Scots Wha' ha'
From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca
Date: 29 Sep 98 - 01:14 AM

You still have them critters over there? They've been most active in Canada this fall (and early too) breaking into rural houses. Sure sign of a cold winter.


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Subject: RE: Scots Wha' ha'
From: Pete M
Date: 29 Sep 98 - 04:36 PM

The Black Bear is the Company quick march of D Company, 1st Battalion, The Gordon Highlanders.

Pete M


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Subject: RE: Scots Wha' ha'
From: Bruce O.
Date: 29 Sep 98 - 06:29 PM

Can anyone supply an ABC of the tune?


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Subject: RE: Scots Wha' ha'
From: Mo
Date: 30 Sep 98 - 07:23 PM

No Tim, no bears in Scotland - unless you are a Glasgow Rangers fan - they're called "bears" or Teddy Bears - but you've got to pronounce it "Berrs" so that it rhymes with 'gers.! Or of course you could be a fan of Jimmy Buffett's Bear Song - but that's getting off track! I'd love to know the words to this fine tune too - I only know the "ye-hoo" of the chorus! Mo


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Subject: Tune Add: THE BLACK BEAR
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 01 Oct 98 - 01:45 AM

Here you are Bruce.


Click to play

To play or display ABC tunes, try concertina.net
ABC format:

X:1
T:The Black Bear
M:2/4
Q:1/4=46
K:C
C7D|F2F2AFcA|F2F2AFcA|G2D2D2GF|EFDECDEC|F2F2AFcA|
F2F2AFcA|G2G2G^AAG|F2A2F2CD|F2F2AFcA|F2F2AFcA|
G2D2D2GF|EFDECDEC|F2F2AFcA|F2F2AFcA|G2G2G^AAG|
F2A2F2G2|C3/2C/2CDF2FG|^A2AGAcAF|C3/2C/2CDF2FG|
^A2AGAcAF|cCC/2C3/2ECC/2C3/2|FDD/2D3/2GEE/2E3/2|
FAFAG^AA^A|c2c2c^AAG|F2F2AFcA|F2F2AFcA|G2D2D2GF|
EFDECDEC|F2F2AFcA|F2F2AFcA|G2G2G^AAG|F2A2F2CD|
F2F2AFcA|F2F2AFcA|G2D2D2GF|EFDECDEC|F2F2AFcA|
F2F2AFcA|G2G2G^AAG|F2A2F2G2|C3/2C/2CDF2FG|
^A2AGAcAF|C3/2C/2CDF2FG|^A2AGAcAF|cCC/2C3/2ECC/2C3/2|
FDD/2D3/2GEE/2E3/2|FAFAG^AA^A|c2c2c^AAG|F2F2AFcA|
F2F2AFcA|G2D2D2GF|EFDECDEC|F2F2AFcA|F2F2AFcA|
G2G2G^AAG|F2A2F2CD|F2F2AFcA|F2F2AFcA|G2D2D2GF|
EFDECDEC|F2F2AFcA|F2F2AFcA|G2G2G^AAG|F2C2F2||

Regards
John

PS This is yet another Celtic tune on the Web for which we are indebted to Barry Taylor.


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Subject: RE: Scots Wha' ha'
From: Bruce O.
Date: 01 Oct 98 - 11:47 AM

Thank you very much, John


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Subject: RE: Scots Wha' ha'
From: Jerry Friedman
Date: 02 Oct 98 - 06:48 PM

ObNaturalHistory: The black bear found where Tim lives and where I live is restricted to North America. The bear native to Europe (but long extinct in the British Isles) is known as the brown bear. It's bigger than the black bear, and related to the brown bears of Alaska and the grizzly bear. Last I heard, bear taxonomy was very controversial, so I'll stop.


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Subject: RE: Scots Wha' ha'
From: Angus
Date: 06 Oct 98 - 03:13 AM

Wha aboot Cock o' tha North


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Subject: RE: Scots Wha' ha'
From: GUEST,an exile
Date: 11 Sep 03 - 12:16 AM

welolm to ur glory bed or to vivtory--u made me laugh-cheers lads


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Subject: RE: Scots Wha' ha'
From: Teribus
Date: 11 Sep 03 - 04:00 AM

"Black Bear" - Regimental Quick March of the Black Watch
"Cock o' the North" - Regimental Qick March of the Gordon Highlanders
"Barren Rocks o' Aden" - Regimental Quick March of the Kings Own Scottish Borders.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Scots Wha' ha'
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Sep 03 - 02:43 AM

It was my understanding that "The Black Bear" was the tune typically played as the unit returned to their camp or barracks, signifying the end of a long march or parade. The tune was used to cheer the men up as they neared their destination, and fell out for rest or other activities.

Dave


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Scots Wha' ha'
From: LadyJean
Date: 12 Sep 03 - 08:26 PM

I'm a fan of George McDonald Fraser, of "Flashman" fame. He wrote a series of truly hilarious books about a highland regiment in peacetime. Their march in Black Bear. The first two books in the series are "The General Danced at Dawn" and "McAuslin in the Rough" as a one time (very bad) highland dancer, they gave me a great deal of pleasure.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Scots Wha' ha'
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 13 Sep 03 - 02:21 AM

Not too sure---but isn't there an oblique reference contained in the "Black Bear" to the fact that the "busby " headgear worn by some regiments as ceremonial dress were black bear-skin?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Scots Wha' ha'
From: Teribus
Date: 17 Sep 03 - 10:57 AM

Only Scottish, as opposed to Scottish Household Brigade Regiments (Coldstream Guards & Scots Guards), Regiment who wear "busby's" or Bearskins are the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards (Scots Greys). Given the distinction for defeating the French Royal Guard in a battle during the Wars of the Spanish Succession.

Household Guard Regiments only started wearing them after the Battle of Waterloo.

Scottish Highland Regiments wear feathered bonnets, that look like "busbys", much lighter and much cooler.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Scots Wha' ha'
From: akenaton
Date: 17 Sep 03 - 05:19 PM

The tune the Black Bear, was used for a song by Andy Stewart called Tunes of Glory...I think they will be the Lyrics requested. Unfortunately I dont have them....BW   Ake


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Scots Wha' ha'
From: Strupag
Date: 18 Sep 03 - 04:49 AM

Black Bear was the theme tune for the old pirate ship, Radio Scotland:

"Swings to You on 242" and then the first couple of lines of Black Bear. 242 referred to meters on the medium wave band and not Khz.

I believe the jingles are still knocking around on anorak websites.

Those were the days!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Scots Wha' ha'
From: Jim McLean
Date: 18 Sep 03 - 05:57 PM

Akenaton is correct and the song Tunes of Glory features on Rhe And Stewart Collection, EMI CD Music for Pleasure. The words are all about kilts swinging and bagpies ringing etc., etc., etc..


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Subject: Lyr Add: ROBERT BRUCE'S ADDRESS TO HIS ARMY(Burns)
From: HuwG
Date: 19 Sep 03 - 09:38 PM

The original poem / song by Robbie Burns:

Robert Bruce's Address to his Army, before the Battle of Bannockburn

Scots, wha' hae wi' Wallace bled,
Scots, wham Bruce has aften led,
Welcome to your gory bed,
Or to victory.

Now's the day, and now's the hour,
See the front o' battle lour,
See approach proud Edward's power,
Chains and slaverie.

Wha will be a traitor knave ?
Wha can fill a coward's grave ?
Wha sae base as be a slave ?
Let him turn and flee !

Wha for Scotland's King and law
Freedom's sword will swiftly draw,
Freeman stand or freeman fa'
Let him follow me !

By oppression's woes and pains !
By your sons in servile chains !
We will drain our dearest veins,
But they shall be free !

Lay the proud usurpers low !
Tyrants fall in every foe !
Liberty's in every blow !
Let us do or die !


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Subject: Lyr Add: BANNOCKBURN (Robert Burns)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 02:01 PM

"Scots Wha' Hae" is surely known th everyone here, but the last lines of each verse (DT, and posts) differ from those in my "Burns' Poems." I think the abbreviated lines are better, but for the record, here is the version from the book.

Lyr. Add: Bannockburn
[Scots wha hae]
Robert Bruce's address to his army
Tune "Hey tuttie taitie"

Scots, wha hae wi' Wallace bled,
Scots, wham Bruce has aften led;
Welcome to your gory bed,
Or to glorious victorie.

Now's the day and now's the hour;
See the front o' battle lower;
See approach proud Edward's power-
Edward! chains and slaverie!

Wha will be a traitor knave?
Wha can fill a coward's grave?
Wha sae base as be a slave?
Traitor! coward! turn and flee!

Wha for Scotland's King and law
Freedom's sword will strongly draw,
Free-men stand, or free-men fa'?
Caledonian! on wi' me!

By oppression's woes and pains!
By your sons in servile chains!
We will drain our dearest veins,
But they shall- they SHALL be free!

Lay the proud ursurpers low!
Tyrants fall in every foe!
Liberty's in every blow!
Forward! let us do or die!

A footnote in this edition: In September, 1793, Burns sent this song to Mr. Thomson. "There is," he wrote, "a tradition, which I have met with in many places of Scotland, that it" (the old air Hey tuttie taitie) 'was Robert Bruce's march at the battle of Bannockburn. This thought in my yesternight's evening walk warmed me to a pitch of enthusiasm on the theme of Liberty and Independence. which I threw into a kind of Scotch ode, fitted to the air, that one might suppose to be the gallant royal Scot's address to his heroic followers, on that eventful morning. So may God ever defend the cause of truth and Liberty as He did that day. Amen." Mr. Thomson wrote suggesting alterations, and Burns replied:- "Who shall decide when doctors disagree?" My ode pleases me so much, that I cannot alter it. Your proposed alterations would, in my opinion, make it tame. I am exceedingly obliged to you for putting me on reconsidering it, as I think I have much improved it. .... I have scrutinized it over and over; and to the world, some way or other, it shall go as it is."

The Poetical Works of Robert Burns.... with biographical memoir by Alexander Smith.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Scots Wha' ha'
From: masato sakurai
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 08:27 PM

The DT version (c. 30 August, 1793) is also adopted in James Kinsley's The Poems and Songs of Robert Burns, Vo. II (Oxford, 1968, p. 707). The one Q posted above is Burns' revision (3 September, 1793).


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Black Bear
From: GUEST,Willie Hutton
Date: 08 Aug 14 - 11:01 AM

The Black Bear is the return to barracks for a lot of Scots regiments and this is why it is usually played at the end of an event. It always ends the Edinburgh Military Tattoo


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Black Bear
From: GUEST,Willie Hutton
Date: 08 Aug 14 - 11:05 AM

I heard a comedy version many years ago in which the opening line was;
When the kilts are swinging
And the baws are hinging

Can anyone supply this version?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Black Bear
From: Ged Fox
Date: 08 Aug 14 - 01:45 PM

Sung as a pre-lullaby to all my grandchidren:

Um tum tiddle iddle
Um tum tiddle iddle
Ee dum dum diddle iddle um dum tum

Um tum tiddle iddle
Um tum tiddle iddle
Ee dum dum diddle iddle um tum dum

Tum diddle um diddle ee diddle iddle um
Tum diddle um diddle ee diddle iddle um

Diddle um diddle um diddle um diddle um
Tum tum tiddle iddle um tum tiddle iddle

Um tum tiddle iddle
Um tum tiddle iddle
Ee dum dum diddle iddle um dum

Um tum tiddle iddle
Um tum tiddle iddle
Rum tum tiddle iddle
Old Black Bear.

Usually followed by
"Far in the East in Krakalund
There is the fairest of towns.
All of the animals in the wood
Stomp, stomp, stomp up and down.
The big black bear is the handsomest chap in the forest!"


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Black Bear
From: bubblyrat
Date: 09 Aug 14 - 07:52 AM

The military (or rather nautical ) band in which I played bass drum,side-drum,and cymbals (but not all at once ) used both "Black Bear" and "100 Pipers" on a regular basis as "drum solos" whilst the puffers and blowers re-shuffled their "parts" for the next tune .We used "Corn Rigs" as well, although it is long and complicated. One got fed up with "British Grenadiers" !!
I seem to remember in the film "The Longest Day" that Piper Millin played "Black Bear" with Lord Lovat on the way to relieving Pegasus Bridge .The task accomplished, the Commandos march off again ; Millin is asked to play "Blue Bonnets" , but plays "Black Bear " again !!


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