Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: GUEST,Theopolis P. Wildebeest
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 05:51 AM

Ivor, there was no need for that language. Besides, at least jOhn can spell and punctuate the english language. Come back when you've grown up a little. And learnt some manners.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Snuffy
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 09:55 AM

Remember "Balling the Jack" back in the 50s? Wasn't that line dancing?

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: artbrooks
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 10:08 AM

I think the discussion started with so-called "American" "country" line dance? Personally, the only place I've seen it done in the states was at Disney World, but I will admit to not looking for it very hard.

I have been doing international folk dance for about 40 years now, and a lot of them are line dances (as in, hold hands or shoulders, there is somebody in front, and the mob snakes around the dance floor). This includes Greek, Balkan (Serbian, Macedonian and Rumanian, mostly) and Israeli. Greek and Bulgarian dances are noted for having a showoff in front, while the leader in others is doing the same step as everyone else.

But, hey!! Either one beats watching TV or sitting around the pub criticizing what you don't know how to do!

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 10:20 AM

greg..". Or is a circle dance a kind of line-dance, but bent round?"

A circle is a round straight line with a hole in the middle, so topologically, they are closely related. Hope that clarifies the matter.

No, no need to thank me.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Johnny in OKC
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 01:18 PM

It looks a lot like IRISH dancing,
without the puffy sleeves.

Classic line-dance tune:
Achy Breaky Heart ~~ AAUUGH!

What would YOU DO, if YOUR band was
playing, and a bunch of line dancers
got up, lurching back and forth.

WHAT would you DO ??

Johnny in OKC

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 01:43 PM

Oh no it doesn't. Irish dancing is graceful.
As to what I would do - I'd try to cover my giggling.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: InOBU
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 01:52 PM

Yes line dancing is rubbish. There will be no line dancing at the half king when...SORCHA DORCHA will be at the HALF KING restaurant and pub, this Wends. Saint Patrick's Day on 23rd street between 10th and 11th Ave. from 7 pm to 10 ... As expected Lorcan Otway on vocals uilleann pipes flute whistle bodhran and the great Jane Kelton on flute whistle and key board, Seanin An Fear on Mandolin, Joe Charupakorn on guitar... the joint is already rumbling, so stay from Give us a drink of water to An Phis Fluich, all yer ol' favs...
Cheers, Is mise, le meas, Lorcan Otway

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Peace
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 02:04 PM

mertangibsen; leve jOhn allone abut his speling. bee nise.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: InOBU
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 02:05 PM

I agree with Brucie, to make up take him to a concert... SORCHA DORCHA will be at the HALF KING restaurant and pub, this Wends. Saint Patrick's Day on 23rd street between 10th and 11th Ave. from 7 pm to 10 ... As expected Lorcan Otway on vocals uilleann pipes flute whistle bodhran and the great Jane Kelton on flute whistle and key board, Seanin An Fear on Mandolin, Joe Charupakorn on guitar... the joint is already rumbling, so stay from Give us a drink of water to An Phis Fluich, all yer ol' favs...
Cheers, Is mise, le meas, Lorcan Otway

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: GUEST,ivor bigginin
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 03:55 PM

It is fantastic isn't it? You make a valid critisism and you clowns cant resist having a go can you? Never mind about punctuation, spelling and swearing this site is about everyone airing their opinion - some of you tight asses do plenty of that.

Eric the red, you are wrong when you say the fraud john "cast out his line and you bit" an uncultured, half educated, ill informed poser comes out with negative opinions and you fall at his feet and touch the hem of his garment- some one like me says something in defence of what we all suppose to hold dear and you are villified for it- is it me missing the point or what? I will ask you one thing, were is he now with his smart remarks? or is what I have said make him just a little uncomfortable?

And you theopolise or whatever you call yourself.When I want a lesson in manners or growing up, it is not you I will call on. I will continue to expose imposters like this oaf from hull.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Mr Red
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 04:11 PM

So what do we call the Breton snakes joined at the little finger (and YES I do like Breton and do it on occaisions when there are dances to be had)

AND Macedonian are more snakes than circles.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 04:17 PM

I stand corrected Mr Red, Snakes not Circles. But definitely not Line.
Ivor, Theopolis, lighten up. No need for name-calling just to show we disagree with each other. Simply disagreeing is enough, it makes the point.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Johnny in OKC
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 05:58 PM

El Greko --- graceful ??

With your arms as straight as rods,
hopping up and down, with absolutely
NO EXPRESSION on your face?

About as far from graceful
as actual line dancing.

And how do they breathe?

Johnny in OKC

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: GUEST,,ivor bigginin
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 06:56 PM

Sorry if you think Im making a bit of a twat of myself, El Grekko, its just that I cant stand the oaf from Hull showing me up as genuinely more stupid than he pretends to be.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 02:51 AM

Depending on the dance, some of the Greek ones had long lines of people circling the room. The Bulgarian dances are so fast and vigorous that shorter lines, tendrils, perhaps, form. Up to three or four people might be a line, up to six or eight if they are all of equal skill at the footwork. The point is, these dances require individuals but don't require partners.

All of my folk dancing was the International sort that Art described. I didn't partake of any of the artificial-looking American Country Music line dances.

The two-step, maybe, but not the line dances.

SRS

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 04:16 AM

The American Country line dances fill an almost universal "need" for both our younger and our elder populations, it seems.

Many of the traditional "line dances" are something that people "grow up with," and there actually is an element of "learning to dance" in them. The older (and now quiet neglected) "couples dancing" requires at least minimal coordination, and at its best, a lot of practice - preferably with a favorite partner.

There being virtually no "traditions" known to our younger "clubbers," very few of them have learned to dance; and in most cases they don't keep the same partner around long enough to learn how do do it together. The result is that when they decide to "go out" they get to someplace where there's music (using the term loosely) and the girls all want to dance, but don't know how, while the guys don't want to dance because they'd have to admit that they don't know how.

The "country line dance," by prescribing a
rigidlyconfinedsetofspecificmovementsthateverybodymustdoexactlythesame
relieves the "participants" of any requirement that they bring skills and knowledge of dancing with them, particularly since at most "clubs" where country line dancing occurs, 75% of the evening is spent in "teaching" everyone the
exactsamemovesthateveryonemustmaketodancetothistune.
(And of course the moves must be "different" for each tune, so the "caller" keeps getting paid for teaching the newest one.) It provides an almost totally "brainless" activity in which even the most simple minded can participate. (Well, actually, I've seen a few failures at it.)

Instead of arriving at the location chosen for the "big night out," ordering drinks, and then sitting around wondering what to do next, someone tells you what to do and how to do it. That does solve a lot of problems for the youngsters. (And by getting them on their feet, may slightly reduce the "shooters" competition.)

I can be somewhat more sympathetic with the "elder generation." Many of them did, perhaps, know how to do at least some rudimentary form of "dance," if they're "old enough." If they're out and about, though, there's a very good chance that they are not with the partner with whom they learned it all so well. It can be very difficult to "break into" a new partner - especially with all the creaking and crackling in some of our "well ripened" bodies, (and we might not have that long to live).

The line dance provides a little mild exercise, a "focused" activity, and an excuse to get together. Again, the decision "are we gonna do it my way or are we gonna do it your way" is completely resolved, since someone will tell you what to do and how to do it. At least some of these folks could figure out something to do, if they'd leave 'em alone.

My observation has been that in most cases these older people could manage to socialize without the "dance," but when you schedule an "activity" you seem to need a "purpose," and line dancing is about as "unobjectionable" a purpose as there is (in the absence of a band that can't play anything below 95 dB or slower than 210 bpm).

Personally I don't care much for participating in it (did you guess?), but it's relatively harmless, and some people seem to enjoy it.

John

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 04:19 AM

Ivor Biggining- just get lost, you spellled biggining wrong as well, stupif.john

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Terry K
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 10:26 AM

Dancing is the vertical expression of a horizontal ambition.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: C-flat
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 11:00 AM

A couple of years ago I was asked to cover guitar duties in a Pop/Rock band while their regular player was away. The band were booked to play at an American car show in Northern England which drew an enormous crowd.
They were a good band but I felt that they were taking themselves a little too seriously for their own good and the singer, in particular, had an ego the size of a planet.
At some point during the show I noticed a large group of heads in the crowd that were moving simultaneously and drew the singers attention to it,
"The bastards are LINE-DANCING to us!!!!" he choked.
I could hardly play for laughing at the bands faces and kept throwing in the occassional country lick to add to their discomfort.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 05:33 AM

im 13 and i do line dancing iv been doin it since i wer 7 and now i do competitions its great! im a 2x midlands champion and a british champion and a worlds champion and there are loads of people that do line dancing out there in the world millions of them! so i just wana tell u ur rong line dancing is great and im goin 2 keep on doin it and show people like u that its not crap and u r a selfish old man that cant understand that by saying theses things u might upset people!

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 07:10 AM

A friend of mine was one of the first American line dance teachers in the UK. She had a troop called Sunsetstampede, and they travelled around the country demonstrating and teaching to all ages imaginable. They also put out a how-to video as well. Perhaps their biggest claim to fame is that one of their young dancers was Colin Farrell (of Ballikissangel/Minority Report..etc).

My friend made a LOT of money in line dancing, and I'm sure she could give many good reasons for why it became so popular, and still is in many places. But if nothing else, she's ended up with a big old bank account she can dance around in any old way she pleases.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 07:20 AM

Tony Blair has made some line dancing videos.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 07:21 AM

oops, it was not Tony, it was his brother Lionel.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Tam the Bam (Nutter)
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 07:36 AM

I used to go a country music club (the old cowboys and stuff) and at the begining there were very few line dancers there, so you if you wanted to waltz or have a quick step you could, and then more bloody line dancers turned up and then they took over, so you couldn't get on the dance floor because of them, or you couldn't get near the bar for a drink. However if they want to look silly with their sloush cowboy stlye then they're welcome to it. But please rember Line dancers out there, that there are people like me who want to dance properly, not to look like an idiot.
But if that's want you wnat to do go ahead, but just keep out of the way of the real dancers.

See y'all

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: GUEST,ivor bigginin
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 09:23 AM

Not only an oaf who can't spell now and oaf who can't read.My name is meant to be spelt like that thicko.

I see your response to my comments are at the usual leval of your intelligence and imagination - that is a big fat zero .

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Tam the Bam (Nutter)
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 10:33 AM

I totally agree with Peter, because that's what most (not all) do.
And if I'm the oaf then I'm sorry, but if not then give the person's name and that way it makes it clear as to who you are insulting.
Guest Ivor Bigginin. An it looks like you cannae spell either.
Tom
PS
Some of us aren't as clever as you, or so you think, anyway we are all entiltled to our opinions are we not.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Tam the Bam (Nutter)
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 10:37 AM

What has this got to do with Line dancing, I was like that once, where I hurled abuse at other mudcatters, but I learnt all that does is it give you grief, and gets you nowhere. So just accpet people's opinions.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Compton
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 06:52 PM

Just a thought!!...Line Dancing knocked the hell out Barn Dancing in our area...It was cheaper for organisers to get someone with a record player and a Cowboy hat than a caller and 4/5 peice band!!

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 07:27 PM

Funny! I started to do a search in Google on line dancing. My terms in the advanced search were "line dancing" and "Greek Bulgarian." First Google hit is this thread!

SRS

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Mar 04 - 08:01 PM

I did some more looking--what I have called a line dance is called the circle dance--but the principle is the same whichever you call it--you do it as an individual in a line holding hands or arms linked with other dancers, moving in a generally one direction and you don't need a partner.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: GUEST,ivor bigginin
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 03:04 AM

Tam the bam (nutter), well, that about says it all doesn't it? If balloons like you read the earlier threads you would realise that these comments are not just about line dancing it is about zero's like john the oaf making unfounded and ill informed comments on subjects they clearly no nothing about.They think because a lot of you immature morons pander to ther childish comments this gives them carte blanche to do and say what they like.

Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion, but at least let them do it in a contructive and positive way.John the oaf's arguments consist of him saying things are "crap, shit" or waffles on about the price of shit grub.From what I have heard and seen his contribution to the folk scene is to get stinking drunk on a regular basis.

Unlike you lot of simpering, preening sicophantic pricks I find none of his remarks even faintly amusing.I make no apologies for spelling mistakes,it is what is said here not how it is spelled what counts.

As for your remark about hurling abuse,sometimes the truth hurts.Maybe you lot should try it sometime,instead of picking on people because "they cannae spell"

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 04:22 AM

Yo ivor, chill out man don't fight, enjoy.
eric

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Peace
Date: 22 Mar 04 - 07:58 PM

Jaysus, Igor Biginning, lighten up will ya? We all LIKE you, even jOhn, who is a closet line dancer.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: GUEST,ivor bigginin
Date: 23 Mar 04 - 02:31 AM

Don't patronise me, I am not here to be liked.As the man said "if you can't stand the cold get out of the water".

Personally, I would rather have my testicles hammered wafer thin and fed trough a pasta maker than have that prick john the oaf like me.

The trouble with you lot is you are that far up your own arses you cant take a little gentle critisisum.

It is you lot who should "lighten up"

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 23 Mar 04 - 05:56 AM

Gentle criticism, Ivor? "..simpering, preening sicophantic pricks"? Just like that, wholesale?

OK, your wish is granted, I won't patronise you - I don't like your behaviour in this thread. And if this is indicative of you as a person, I won't like you either.

So please don't come to any of my gigs. Stay at home and post messages about people you don't like. That way we will both be happy.

And if jOhn admits to liking you despite all, I will be happy to help with a hammer also.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 23 Mar 04 - 08:37 AM

Ivor, jOhn is not really an oaf as you probably well know, whereas you are, lighten up, join in the fun or FUCK OFF, permanently.
eric

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: GUEST,earthling
Date: 23 Mar 04 - 08:47 AM

Ivor...I'm not up my own arse, I can take gentle criticism, jOhn is one of the funniest guys on this forum, and you have put me right off pasta. Have a nice day now.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 23 Mar 04 - 09:11 AM

ivor bigging-just get stuffed=you are a big load of shit, and you are rubbish, so get lost.john

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Mar 04 - 10:00 AM

I use a rolling pin and a sharp knife on my pasta.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: lone shark
Date: 24 Mar 04 - 05:17 AM

You folks will be pleased to learn that the GUEST ivor bigginin has been revealed as a mudcat member known as Ossonflags. More details are available on other threads. I hope someone makes jOhn aware of this fact. And in answer to the question, yes, line dancing is rubbish.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 24 Mar 04 - 05:37 AM

I take it all back ossonflags.
eric

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: kendall
Date: 24 Mar 04 - 08:00 AM

Everything is relative. To a germ, good health is a type of disease.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Peace
Date: 24 Mar 04 - 11:12 AM

My God! Does that mean Bush is my relative?

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 24 Mar 04 - 11:24 AM

As nobody has told you, Ivor the dickhead and Lone Shark the single brain cell are one and the same. And they are NOT my good friend ossonflags. He's been plagueing us elsewhere on this forum, though his comments on this thread are amongst his worst. Sorry guys and gals. He appears to be endeavouring to set Micheal up. Please ignore all posts from either.

He will be leaving us shortly.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: GUEST,bored
Date: 24 Mar 04 - 12:28 PM

RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?

Perhaps, but not as rubbish as this thread.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Mar 04 - 12:55 PM

I can't believe this rubbish thread is still shambling along! jOhn, you deserve to be flogged with a dead squid and then defenestrated from the Tower of London for launching it. I hope Penelope Rutledge seeks you out and gives you a good tongue lashing!

- LH

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: GUEST,T Lyons
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 12:01 PM

JOhn

When you try something new and if you still don't like it then say it's crap if you've never tried it SHUT YA MOUTH!!!!!!

I've only done Line Dancing once and found it to be greaaaat fun

Line dancin is not for everyone so if ya mums happy let her be, or don't ya like ya mum havin a bit of fun????

Maybe ya jealous

There's lots of dances on the scene these days to cater for everyone, maybe ya just don't know the right move's so you go and diss it just like most people who can't do something that they actually like, maybe ya a closet linedancer!!!!! It's not all country, and some people don't like that either, thay think it should be, just so the pop world it not discredated.

Oh ya when ya learn to spell, ya might just get the dance steps write or should that be right!!!!

T Lyons

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: dianavan
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 10:47 PM

My mom is a line dancer, too. I think it looks silly but when you are 79 years old, its good exercise and a pretty good way to show the world you still have a little rhythm left in you. I went to a rehearsal with her and realized I would never be able to follow the steps. I have never been able to follow choreographed moverments. I prefer rock and roll.

But John, really - sounds like mom goes out to get away from you. Maybe she wants you to get out too. It would certainly drive me out of the house if I had a son who griped about his co-workers and did nothing but sit around the house drinking beer and playing on the computer. What do you do for fun?

d

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: GUEST,Robyn
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 08:10 AM

Line dancing is dancing in lines - that's all. We use all kinds of music, including country, latest pop, hip hop, latin etc and all kinds of dance steps. I have learnt Latin American dancing and am presently learning Rock and Roll (6 step) but when I my partner is not able to accompany me dancing, I would rather line dance than dance with a stranger or someone who is not able to dance properly. Line dancing is social and friendly. It helps to build self confidence. I don't have to be a wall flower, waiting for some poor bugger to work up the courage to ask me to dance - when the music plays I dance. But I agree for everyone's sake that we as line dancers should contain ourselves to line dance venues. Its logical given the routines that we perform. I can spin like a top and I can jump up into the air, clicking my heels to the side - especially to a good pop piece of music from the Top 10. Line dancing is no more rubbish than any other form of dancing! The only rubbish dancing I see is freestyle dancing around the handbag stuff at clubs by people with little or no idea of rythmn, using a total of 3 different steps all night long! LOL

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 11:24 AM

yes