Subject: Women's barbershop From: Crowhugger Date: 02 Apr 11 - 11:05 AM Sweet Adelines International has plentiful and robust quartet as well as chorus members AND competitions. No legal connection to the men's organization, but certainly lots of co-operation occurs daily at many levels. SAI was started (I forget what year) by wives of barbershoppers who wanted to have the same kind of musical fun. Six choruses left SAI in 1958 and in 1959 created Harmony, Incorporated. This was after intense efforts failed to reverse a bylaw amendment limiting membership to white women only. In the early sixties a number of Canadian choruses made news headlines as they left SAI, being prime time civil rights era. Harmony Inc includes clear democratic process as part of its objects, so that the top-down rule changes done by SAI in 1958 cannot happen in HI. As I understand it, not until sometime in the 1980s was the SAI bylaw changed to allow women of colour. Sadly that's a part of history that most SAI members pooh-pooh as not important, and they prefer to bury it rather than properly acknowledge it and move on. I haven't found a SAI member willing to talk about it. Equally sadly, the quality medal-winning Harmony Inc choruses and quartets is well below medalists in Sweet Adelines. For some reason the culture of HI doesn't support both hobbyists and serious competitors in the way SAI seems to do, perhaps being too small to do both successfully. In 2009 Harmony Inc celebrated their 50th anniversary during its convention and competition. It was held in Providence, RI to honour the Providence chorus that spearheaded the fight against racism in Sweet Adelines. Interestingly, to this day all 3 barbershop organizations (HI, BHS, SAI) are remarkably uniracial on the pale side even though it was reputed to have originated amongst the darkest Americans. |
Subject: RE: SPEBSQSA now 'Barbershop Harmony Society' From: Desert Dancer Date: 01 Apr 11 - 08:35 PM Fans of barbershop might be interested in this young man's YouTubes of a capella music -- he's multi-tracked himself: Danny Fong. ~ Becky in Long Beach |
Subject: RE: SPEBSQSA now 'Barbershop Harmony Society' From: JohnInKansas Date: 29 Mar 11 - 10:24 PM In a couple of areas where I've had contact with participants, both SPEB members and Adelines referred to the Adelines as "the Ladies Auxiliary of SPEBSQSA." One or two contest programs in the 50s used the same terminology, where the Adelines were "guest artists." I don't recall ever seeing any "official" affiliation agreements between the two orgs, and "charters" I've seen don't mention each other. In the contests I've seen, the competition was limited to male quartets, although both male and female (but not mixed) choral groups usually performed as "bonus entertainment." It's been decades, though, since I've been to a contest. The Adelines where I knew members were always larger groups, and frequently had sufficient notoriety to have a degree of company sponsorship as "company clubs." Although I heard rumors that a few SPEB-style female quartets were beginning to appear with some visibility a few years back, I don't know whether they were ever admitted to the SPEB contests. There was, of course, considerable grumbling by the old-line (male) SPEBs about "the insult to tradition, degeneration of morality, offenses to the social order, the destruction of civilization as we know it" but I wasn't close enough to any of those who claimed (pretended?) to be upset to be able to tell whether it was really complaining or just "friendly banter." John |
Subject: RE: SPEBSQSA now 'Barbershop Harmony Society' From: Joe Offer Date: 29 Mar 11 - 06:23 PM The Website for the Sweet Adelines is http://www.sweetadelineintl.org. Their headquarters is in Tulsa, Oklahoma. I've seem many joint activities sponsored by both the Sweet Adelines and SPEBSQSA. I always assumed they were "sister" organizations, but I don't see anything on either Website that indicates a tie between the organizations. Maybe they developed separately. I think the Sweet Adelines emphasize large-chorus singing over quartets. Wikipedia says the Sweet Adelines were founded in 1947 in Tulsa, Oklahoma, by wives of SPEBSQSA members who wanted to enjoy the same harmonizing their husbands enjoyed. By the way, there's a very interesting article about barbershop singing at Wikipedia. -Joe- |
Subject: RE: SPEBSQSA now 'Barbershop Harmony Society' From: saulgoldie Date: 29 Mar 11 - 05:52 PM Ahhh, SPEBSQSA. Yesss! I must admit that I am "part of the problem." I am a quiet fan of barbershop AND Sweet Adelines. I consider it part of the "folk music" world under my own personal definition. And yes, too, I think appreciation of this very important art form is, alas, dying along with us. I guess it is too "quaint" for the techno era. Sad. Saul |
Subject: RE: SPEBSQSA now 'Barbershop Harmony Society' From: PoppaGator Date: 29 Mar 11 - 05:36 PM Thanks Joe ~ fascinating stuff that is apparently disappearing from written history at this very moment. The old SPEBSQSA was all-male, I see above. Were they somehow affilliated with the all-female "Sweet Adelines" who had (probaly still do have) chapters allover the country? Is the new Barbershop Harmony Assn co-ed? |
Subject: RE: SPEBSQSA now 'Barbershop Harmony Society' From: Joe Offer Date: 29 Mar 11 - 03:35 PM Someone contacted me last night and told me that our link to spebsqsa.org is no longer working. I checked, and that's the truth - SPEBSQSA is no more. All my effort at memorizing that string of letters, is now for naught. I've never been a member of a barbershop quartet, but I've always loved barbershop singing. I grew up in Racine, Wisconsin, a barbershop world. My scoutmaster was a barbershopper. Heck, I even went to a Catholic barbershop Mass when I was a kid. I worked in Alaska in December, 1994, and one of the highlights of my trip was attending a coworker's barbershop Christmas concert. At gatherings of coworkers, I'd always enlist the barbershoppers to gather and sing a few songs - and I'd sing with them. As this outdated history says, the Society for the Preservation and Encouragement of Barber Shop Quartet Singing in America (SPEBSQSA) was founded in 1938. Wikipedia says the international headquarters of the Society was Harmony Hall, a historic lakefront mansion in Kenosha, Wisconsin, for fifty years. The Society sold Harmony Hall in 2003. In August 2007, the Society completed the relocation to 110 Seventh Avenue North, in Nashville. NASHVILLE? How could they move to Nashville, of all places? That's almost as much of a commercial sellout as moving to Hollywood, fer chrissake. In 2004, the Society became the Barbershop Harmony Society, and its Website is now http://www.barbershop.org. I do wonder how all this will affect the future of barbershop singing. The barbershop singing I heard as a kid was mostly corny or sentimental songs, punctuated by equally corny humor. Nowadays, barbershop quartets are highly competitive and very slick and sophisticated in their arrangements - which tend more to doo wop than traditional barbershop songs. Barbershop is still fun to listen to, but the amateur aspect of barbershop singing seems to be disappearing. Any other observations on the future of barbershop singing? Is "Down by the Old Mill Stream" dead and gone? -Joe-
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Subject: RE: Barbershop... From: musicmick Date: 17 Mar 04 - 01:40 AM I was, for a while, a member of the Mainliners chorus in Bryn Mawr, PA It was a rewarding and enriching experience. The demanding schedule of rehearsals for competitions was the only reason I stopped going to meetings. I would advise anyone who enjoys singing and would like to improve his vocal skills to join a chapter and stand on the risers with as fine a crowd as I have ever known. (I still have a few of the arrangements including what they call Barbershop Polecat Songs, which are the numbers that all the choruses sing about the same.) |
Subject: RE: Barbershop... From: Celtic Soul Date: 16 Mar 04 - 10:10 PM Thanks, everyone!! You guys are the best!! |
Subject: RE: Barbershop... From: Burke Date: 16 Mar 04 - 05:42 PM SPEBSQSA sponsors competitions at various levels from regions to international. An acquaintance of mine judges on the international level. My understanding from him, is that there are fairly strict rules in regard to the type on harmonies & lyrical content to qualify for competitive purposes. I suspect that doo-wop type arrangement would never qualify. What the groups do apart from competition is another matter. The local choir does a show that is always very well attended. The average age of it's members seems to be fairly high. |
Subject: RE: Barbershop... From: InOBU Date: 16 Mar 04 - 12:34 PM Well to see what Barber shop is NOT...SORCHA DORCHA will be at the HALF KING restaurant and pub, this Wends. Saint Patrick's Day on 23rd street between 10th and 11th Ave. from 7 pm to 10 ... As expected Lorcan Otway on vocals uilleann pipes flute whistle bodhran and the great Jane Kelton on flute whistle and key board, Seanin An Fear on Mandolin, Joe Charupakorn on guitar... the joint is already rumbling, so stay from Give us a drink of water to An Phis Fluich, all yer ol' favs... Cheers, Is mise, le meas, Lorcan Otway |
Subject: RE: Barbershop... From: M.Ted Date: 16 Mar 04 - 12:16 PM The "Barbershop Quartet" harmonies are really derived from classical music, rather that traditional music--From the time that records were first made, Quartets, like the Peerless Quartet, American Quartet, and the Hayden Quartet, were among the most popular recording artists--invariably, when a song was popular, there would be recordings available by a number of quartets, the arrangements were of the "light classical" sort(in truth, what passed for Quartet singing actually featured more than four singers)-- Back in those days, recordings were a sort of novelty though, and if you wanted music, you had to make your own, so informal group singing, often with simple improvised harmonies, was a common social activity--no quartets though, everyone joined in-- This wonderful custom began to disappear as recordings, radio, and movies became the standard entertainments, and the automobile culture broke up the old neigborhoods--but it was fondly, if not accurately, remembered, and recreated, often ironically, in the movies, on radio, and in recordings-- For one thing, the singing tended to occur in barrooms, not barbershops, for another, the songs were inclined to be more boisterous, colorful, and raw--the book, My Pious Friends and Drunken Companions is a collection that gives a more accurate picture of what was sung-- |
Subject: RE: Barbershop... From: GUEST,Martin Ryan Date: 16 Mar 04 - 04:27 AM I sang in a barbershop chorus for a few years, about ten years ago. I enjoyed the SOUND - just to be in the middle of it was wonderful when you got it right. Eventually, the essential silliness of the songs themselves got to me and I reverted to cheerful traditional ditties about incest, shipwreck, murder and mayhem. What I took away from the experience was, I think, much improved breathing and a better ear for harmony. I also enjoyed the company - it seems to attract some very companionable people. Regards |
Subject: RE: Barbershop... From: Joe Offer Date: 16 Mar 04 - 02:53 AM I was introduced to barbershop singing in grammar school, when my Scoutmaster was a member of the Dairymen Barbershop Chorus in Racine, Wisconsin. The headquarters of the SPEBSQSA is in Kenosha, ten miles south. The typical unit for barbershop singing is a quartet, but the units of the SPEBSQSA also usually have larger choruses that sing in typical barbershop four-part harmony. I've noticed in recent years that many barbershop quartets sing what I think of as doo-wop songs, as opposed to the old-fashioned humorous or sentimental songs that were the usual fare for earlier quartets. -Joe Offer- *SPEBSQSA (Society for the Preservation and Encouragement of Barber Shop Quartet Singing in America. |
Subject: RE: Barbershop... From: JohnInKansas Date: 16 Mar 04 - 02:07 AM You can look at a few samples of "Barbarshop Music" at SPEBSQSA Downloads. They've got free samples. John |
Subject: RE: Barbershop... From: JohnInKansas Date: 16 Mar 04 - 02:00 AM One of the distinctive features of much of barbershop singing is that since it is usually unaccompanied, at least in the traditional "quartet," the "natural" scale is just "naturally" used. It's one of the few places to hear "the old way" i.e. before the equi-tempered scale(s) came into almost universal use. The "characteristic" and "defining" chord used in barbershop goes by the technical name of the "hair on the legs" harmony. When the voices all blend in perfect, natural harmonic relationship, you hear rich chords with "notes that aren't there," and the harmonics are enough to "make the little hairs quiver" all over. It's something that can't be done on any fretted or keyed instrument. (Even ancient keyed instruments built to play harmonic scales will seldom "hit it.") A really good string quartet (of the chamber music sort) gets it occasionally, and you might do it with a trombone quartet; but for most of us it's a "forgotten" effect. But any 4 guys that "hang around the barbershop" and sing together enough to learn how to "fit together" can likely "raise the hairs" at least occasionally. John |
Subject: RE: Barbershop... From: Sorcha Date: 16 Mar 04 - 01:25 AM And, very close harmonies at that |
Subject: RE: Barbershop... From: Allan C. Date: 15 Mar 04 - 11:38 PM Lots of parallel harmonies, too. |
Subject: RE: Barbershop... From: wysiwyg Date: 15 Mar 04 - 11:36 PM What about the doo wop harmony thread? ~S~ |
Subject: RE: Barbershop... From: Amos Date: 15 Mar 04 - 11:28 PM Couldn't have said it better myself, not by a LONG shot. A |
Subject: RE: Barbershop... From: Johnny in OKC Date: 15 Mar 04 - 10:55 PM It is four-part harmony in major keys, with a descant (tenor) above the melody (lead), bari and bass below. And it is loaded with sevenths, but no major sevenths. Love songs and "novelty" tunes are common. They are still writing arrangements of modern tunes in the style,and women now also sing barbershop. Love, Johnny |
Subject: Barbershop... From: Celtic Soul Date: 15 Mar 04 - 09:44 PM Hello, all. Been awhile since I have posted here. I was just looking to inquire of the amassed experience and knowledge at this site. I am wondering what makes "Barbershop" uniquely what it is. I do understand that there are very particular harmonies, etc...but, in the vernacular, what would it all be called (technically speaking). How does it relate to itself, and how does it differ from other harmony structures? Is it prone to 5ths? 7ths, what makes it "Barbershop"? Thanks in advance! :) |
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