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Nemesis 28 Mar 04 - 06:17 PM
GUEST 28 Mar 04 - 06:21 PM
wysiwyg 28 Mar 04 - 06:21 PM
Jim McCallan 28 Mar 04 - 06:22 PM
s&r 28 Mar 04 - 06:36 PM
Nemesis 28 Mar 04 - 06:50 PM
Jim McCallan 28 Mar 04 - 06:57 PM
s&r 28 Mar 04 - 06:58 PM
JohnInKansas 28 Mar 04 - 07:09 PM
GUEST,MCP 28 Mar 04 - 07:15 PM
mooman 28 Mar 04 - 07:20 PM
Gypsy 28 Mar 04 - 08:34 PM
okthen 29 Mar 04 - 03:52 AM
s&r 29 Mar 04 - 04:31 AM
Nemesis 29 Mar 04 - 06:57 AM
s&r 29 Mar 04 - 08:41 AM
Sandra in Sydney 29 Mar 04 - 09:29 AM
KateG 29 Mar 04 - 10:11 AM
Bassic 29 Mar 04 - 10:54 AM
okthen 29 Mar 04 - 11:25 AM
Nigel Parsons 29 Mar 04 - 11:52 AM
Nemesis 29 Mar 04 - 03:27 PM
mooman 29 Mar 04 - 04:24 PM
Bill D 29 Mar 04 - 05:31 PM
Nemesis 29 Mar 04 - 05:40 PM
okthen 29 Mar 04 - 05:45 PM
GUEST,MCP 29 Mar 04 - 05:55 PM
GUEST,Big John (where's my cookie) 29 Mar 04 - 08:45 PM
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Liz the Squeak 30 Mar 04 - 07:58 AM
mooman 30 Mar 04 - 08:20 AM
Nemesis 30 Mar 04 - 10:44 AM
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mooman 30 Mar 04 - 10:59 AM
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Nemesis 05 Apr 04 - 07:39 PM
KateG 06 Apr 04 - 08:20 AM
mooman 06 Apr 04 - 08:27 AM
wysiwyg 06 Apr 04 - 09:22 AM
okthen 06 Apr 04 - 01:43 PM
Nemesis 06 Apr 04 - 05:02 PM
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Subject: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Nemesis
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 06:17 PM

He-elp!
I knew it wasn't going to work - teenage house guest and within two hours he's stuffed me computer: gone on to some fecking Ring-tone download site that's downloaded a programme onto the computer that I now need to "download an online uninstall programme" for...and which kindly warns

"Removing n-CASE might remove or cripple software applications you like and use everyday."

and then "click here to download uninstaller"

Anyone techy-minded 'catter come across this site:
"http://www.n-case.com/ncaseaduninstall.html" and what happened when you clicked to "download installer"?

PS: the computer system is normally password protected, but I let his Mum on to set up a Hotmail account .... never, never turn your back on someone else's unhouse-trained kid (she said, bolting the stable door after the horse had bolted)
Nem
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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 06:21 PM

download spybot - just had success with similar crap

Stu


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: wysiwyg
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 06:21 PM

Can you do a rollback?????

If not, I'll volunteer ofr the knee-breaking squad!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Jim McCallan
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 06:22 PM

Will 'Add/Remove Programs' not take it out?


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: s&r
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 06:36 PM

it really works - free (or voluntary donation)

stu


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Nemesis
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 06:50 PM

The Add and Delete programme .. it hacked that as well: "You have to go online to download Uninstaller"


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Jim McCallan
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 06:57 PM

Maybe if you downloaded and ran the uninstaller, and then ran Spybot, or another programme called AdAware, it would remove any registry entries that the uninstaller failed to.
A virus scan afterwards may not be a bad idea, neither.


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: s&r
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 06:58 PM

Don't download anything else from an untrustworthy site. They've stuffed you once, and they're looking for a chance to stuff you again.

Stu


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 07:09 PM

It sounds like one of the "download managers" used by many of the "music sharing" sites. Most likely all that will be disabled is the download program itself, but some of them bury themselves pretty deep, so Spybot would be a good choice for a "cleaner." Spybot alone will not generally remove the program - it's only intended to remove the spyware components contained in the program.

Nearly all the "music sharing" download sites that require you to use their own program to download stuff incorporate some pretty invasive "spyware," and programs like Spybot are designed to take the spyware out. (Taking just the spyware out does usually disable the download program - they design it that way so you'll have to re-load the program if you want more downloads, and they get to put the spyware back.) They put the scary warnings on to make you think you "have to" leave it on the machine.

In many cases, using their uninstall will take the "program" out, but will leave their spyware on the machine - so that they can continue to track your surfing (or worse). If you're dealing with one of those sites, using Spybot after you've uninstalled their program by any available method is strongly recommended.

If the program shows in the Program Manager "Add/Remove software" you can probably uninstall it using Program Manager, although there's no guarantee that you'll get everything - since they usually go to some lengths to hide the "junk" components. You'll have to decide whether to try their uninstall, and hope it does a complete removal of the program. After uninstall, use Spybot or one of the other good programs to make sure the tracking junk gets removed.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 07:15 PM

If you do a web-search for "n-case removal" you'll find several sites given help on this, for example: n-case removal

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: mooman
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 07:20 PM

Dear Nemesis,

You can certainly try Spybot (which is free) but n-CASE is notoriously difficult to remove and I'm not sure Spybot yet fixes it.

One that will work if Spybot fails is Spy Sweeper (free). Another is Pest Patrol (not free I think). However, if you are confident....there are detailed removal instructions at this site.

Good luck and all the best!

Love

Richard


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Gypsy
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 08:34 PM

Sounds to me like the beastie owes you some ducats for a techie to come in and fix...........I wouldn't fight with it! Not when I didn't create the mess. Surprised that the mother unit hasn't already made the offer.........


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: okthen
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 03:52 AM

I found something similar in my "add/remove programmes", something called "Interstitial ad delivery by 180 search assistant" as it was a large file and I hadn't heard of it I decided to delete it, but got a message telling me to sign on to the internet. I was a bit wary of doing that, so I ran Spybot and hey presto it's gone! At least it appears to have gone.


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: s&r
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 04:31 AM

Any luck yet Nemesis?


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Nemesis
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 06:57 AM

Okthen .. that is exactly it!!! I downloaded Spybot at 1am this morning and tried to run it and it said "WS2_32.DLL" file was missing ..

Tech support (Research Machines) reckon to reload Windows ...

S&R will go back to SpyBot and see if downloading the Spybot upgrades might kick start/ find this missing file.

So, no luck yet Richard ... bloody bloody bloody Hell!!! It's conflicting the keyboard, the mouse, and trying to download stuff when I was typing Mudcat's URL to get here! (Just taken 10 minutes to type this :(

Just my luck the week I finally get a journalistic job breakthrough with the BBC and have umpteen print deadlines (like last Saturday) for folk club publicity ... feck feck feck feck feck feck ......

Kneecappers (or fingercrunchers) queue here to apply ....


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: s&r
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 08:41 AM

Good luck. The whole business cost me about twelve hours online. How about castration?


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 09:29 AM

will you be speaking to the parent of the boy?

Or would the kid even care about the trouble you have had? I've just found another thing that mildly annoys me, bad mannered thoughtless kids, maybe I'll add it to the thread

sandra


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: KateG
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 10:11 AM

Frankly, I would take the machine to your local gurus for a speedy fix and make the kid/mom pay -- no reason you should have to mess with this stuff and perhaps make things worse. You did not give the kid permission to play with your computer, you most certainly did not give it permission to download software...and your ability to earn a living is being compromised. It's called responsibility and accountability. No different than if the brat through a ball through your living room window. ....although I like the sound of castration, we don't need more kids like that :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Bassic
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 10:54 AM

Try putting "WS2_32.DLL" into google. You will probably find it available as a free download somewhere. That should then let Spybot do its job. Good luck!


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: okthen
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 11:25 AM

Aha, ahahahahaha, I wonder if that's what got rid of Zonealarm, and winmx, and possibly Yahoo, there's been a lot of funny (peculiar) things going on just lately and I'd put it down to putting a new hard drive in and cleaning up the old one.
I'm going to try and reload that which I've lost and see if that works, it's a nasty little bugger wherever it came from, but I'm pretty sure your guests weren't 'round my house, maybe my kids were trying to download ringtones............ looks like a postmortem is called for.
Will keep an eye on this thread to see how things are going.


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 11:52 AM

Nemesis:

The other important thing to check (unless you're on Broadband)is that your "Dialler" software is still set as you want it.

When working for an ISP I found several occasions when downloading nasty files also recreated the dialler, with a number for an expensive dial-up (be it Porn or cross-border)
Depending on the platform you're using the dialler number can usually be found via Start>Control Panel>Network connections.
The fact that the connection still shows the correct ISP name does NOT mean that the number being dialled is theirs


Best of luck

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Nemesis
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 03:27 PM

TECH LOG: DAY 2

Well, I've spent all day backing up 5 years work - halfway there ..

Apparently, when they were trying to establish a Hotmail account all that happened were pop-ups kept popping up .. (denial in other words) ...

I'll try Google search Bassic ..

and I'll get onto my Server provider and talk me through checking the numbers Nigel .. thanks for that .. get onto it straight away now ..

Bloody bloody bloody hell .. should have been seeing a News Editor today (thank god, this week is not next week)

Many thanks everyone so far ... the guilty party has gone off to make a "homeless" application (literally) .. apparently computers don't do things like this in Spain . where they've just arrived from .. :(

Ho hum ..
Nem
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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: mooman
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 04:24 PM

Dear Nems,

Bassic's right. You'll be able to download WS2_32.DLL for free (I done that myself) and that should enable Spybot to work.

Peace and good luck (with everything!)

Richard


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 05:31 PM

just as a matter of interest..*grin*

Registrant:
180Solutions, Inc. (NCASE7-DOM)
18702 N CREEK PKWY STE 200
BOTHELL, WA 98011-8019
US

Domain Name: N-CASE.COM

Administrative Contact:
180Solutions, Inc. (I16134-OR) dant@180solutions.com
18702 N CREEK PKWY STE 200
BOTHELL, WA 98011-8019
US
425-402-4130 fax: 123 123 1234

Technical Contact:
Todd, Daniel (WINEIYXOMI) dant@180solutions.com
18702 N CREEK PKWY STE 200
BOTHELL, WA 98011-8019
US
425-402-4130 fax: 123 123 123


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Nemesis
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 05:40 PM

TECH LOG: DAY 2/ 12 HOURS
Great! :) That's where all send the invoices! And the bill for post-n-case traumatic distress syndrome? And the claim for loss of earnings etc ...

Okay .. I have downloaded WS2_32.dll and Spybot (with the missing WS2_32.dll file) .. however, I have yet to work out out to get Spybot to "find" the file: have extracted WS2_32.dll via WINZIP and have been waving it under Spybot's nose by dropping it into the folder .. Spybot is yet to bite.

Any thoughts, you wonderful people :)
Nem
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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: okthen
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 05:45 PM

My system's still not back to normal but it's too late tonight.


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 05:55 PM

The dll should be in the WINDOWS/SYSTEM32 directory. You may have to register it: run regsvr32 C:/WINDOWS/SYSTEM32/WS2_32.dll

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: GUEST,Big John (where's my cookie)
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 08:45 PM

Use "System Restore" and reset your computer to a date preceding the dastardly act. If it does not have the desired effect you can "undo" the operation.


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 08:58 PM

On your home machine....you need to set-up multiple accesses/skins/accounts/interfaces....and backup.

In the course of a year probably a dozen different souls/visitors/guests access my machine.

There is "my area" (hidden) and "their area" (open)always use a key-stroke-capture and page-cache on the guest's accounts....

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 09:31 PM

Have you tried reinstalling your operating system to get everything back into sync again?

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Amos
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 09:53 PM

Nem:

Consign your Windows machine for guest use and buy yourself a wee iMac.

Your life will bloom!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 07:58 AM

Is SpyBot supposed to take bloody forever to install? We started it up last night and it's still not in properly now, over 12 hours later!

Oh, and pendant - it should be buggEry.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: mooman
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 08:20 AM

Pendant Liz! The mind boggles!

moo


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Nemesis
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 10:44 AM

TECH LOG: DAY 3 - in the Library Internet cafe.

Eating myself into a hypoglaecemic stupor with chocolate has not worked:

This morning the darling system was trying to reset internet connections to acess Belgian Porn sites or some such.

Problem is I'm operating WIN95 .. not supported by Spybot or Ad Aware ... have bought up the town's supply of floppies to back up Work docs etc .. .. there's no help for it .. I'm in the Library now .. will have to get everything off and reload (and upgrade to WIN98)

Perhaps, if I stop eating so much chocolate (after realising I couldn't even access my 300+ mailing group list addresses - to send as BCCs (except by typing in manually with brackets) - to publicise this Friday's guest act (heart-stoppingly, guaranteed fee) ... bloody 'ell ....

MInd blank .. spirit broken .. oops, that was the bathroom scales, broken ...


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Nemesis
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 10:52 AM

"I'm in the li-bar-y now"
Tech Log: DAy 3 - post hypoglaecemic (?) coma

Note to self: Eating pounds of chocolate does not make the problem go away.

This morning the darling system was trying to reset the internet connections to access Belgain porn sites everytime I turned the computer on.

Unfortunately, using WIN 95 - so, not supported by Ad AWare or Spybot.. there's no help for it and have bought up the town supply of floppies to download all the work and reload Windows (and upgrade to 98)

Eating chocolate after finding (on the Library internet access) I can't access 300+ mailing group addresses to publicise this week's club act (just a heart stopping, guaranteed fee).. sh*t!!!

Memo: stop eating chocolate ..

Mind blank .. spirit broken ... oops, bathroom scales broken..
Nem
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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: mooman
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 10:59 AM

Easy on Nem!

Solving the n-CASE nonsense is just a little problem.

Not eating chocolate is a big problem.

Alas, Windows 95 might be a problem here although you could possibly try the "DIY" link I posted a while back.

Love

moo


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 11:10 AM

Eating myself into a hypoglaecemic stupor with chocolate has not worked


odd that, I find eating chocolate normally solves anything, eventually.


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Nemesis
Date: 05 Apr 04 - 07:39 PM

Well, I've been eating chocolate solidly for a week - a sc-Filk techy person has stripped out the computer of suspicious files, discovered 2 gig-bytes of extra whatever and still the bloody n-case files are cluttering up the desktop and lodged in Add/Remove - tomorrow: lorry load of Kit Kats and deinstalling Windows.

My liberal (sic) mindedness is being severely tested by the grunting, farting, belching perpetrator still occupying the living room sofa-bed ... hum hum


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: KateG
Date: 06 Apr 04 - 08:20 AM

I suggest that you hand said perpetrator your hoover, mop, broom, window squeegee, oven cleaner, silver polish and all other cleaning parephenalia and suggest that he/she/it do something constructive in recompense for your aggravation. Alternatively - or additionally - they could turn over your veggie garden for the new season (a task well suited to youngsters since requires brawn rather than brains. He/she/it and mama my deny responsibility for mucking up your 'puter, but you are putting them up (putting up with them?) and saving them how much a night over the cost of a local hostelry?

And before setting to work, he/she/it can go out and get you some proper chocolates. KitKats have their place, but they are not potent enough for traumas of this magnitude (like fighting fire with a teacup). For that you need the best and darkest chocolate money can buy (dark chocolate has far more of the compounds that make chocolate and effective mood lifter)...and for it to be really effective, the money should not be yours!


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: mooman
Date: 06 Apr 04 - 08:27 AM

Perhaps I should ship you a supply of Belgium's finest Nem...? As Kate said, it may be the only sure remedy!

moo


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Apr 04 - 09:22 AM

Well, just know that we're eating chocolate WITH you, just to keep you *company* dear!

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: okthen
Date: 06 Apr 04 - 01:43 PM

I've been popping back to this thread now and then to see how you were getting on and at times sympathising with your continuing troubles and occasionally feeling a little superior (I get so little chance) as I managed to get rid of my similar problem.......... that was untill I decided to check it hadn't snuck back in, it had. So I'm back to square one, I did, however, do a google search for 180 search asssistant and will be trying their remedies soon. (Note that this thread came up in the search).
Hope you get this fixed, will check to see your progress, and vow never to feel superior again.


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Nemesis
Date: 06 Apr 04 - 05:02 PM

Okay, 48 hours before BBC work committment - 72 hours past getting press review of club night in paper; umpteen musicians thinking they're not playing at a festival and 100s of people screaming they've missed their regional music E-newsletter .. grunting and farting still going on ,..... have directed aforementioned to large woodpile at end of garden, and fence paint and fences - no luck yet ... feck feck feck .. have asked corner shop to lay in dark chocolate for this weekend...and this damn keyboard is hell to type on!!!

Night mare of highest convoluted magnitude - life and career collapsing as we speak - washing up piling up in direct proportion.

This keyboard (windows system conflict is appalling so can't type more right now .. will try and get out some emails and save life on "this" planet as I know it!!)

Nem
xx


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: steve in ottawa
Date: 06 Apr 04 - 05:41 PM

Backups are like car insurrance: they're pretty damn important.

I recommend Acronis (True Image 7.0) Backup Program.
http://www.acronis.com
US$50.
Very simple to learn.
About 22 MB, you can download it on-line (if you have a credit card). It'll run in the background just fine while you chat on Mudcat. If you only have one disk, you can ask it to set aside a section of your disk as an unreachable special backup zone (in Linux format, I think) which Windows viruses will have a very hard time attacking. It only saves full disk-partition images, but you don't have to restore full partitions (to restore only selected files, you can load any full backup or incremental backup as a disk image and then simply copy the files you want from the selected backup -- that's the sort of thing to do when someone has messed up your system: crawl through your incremental backups until you find the one without the bad program, then restore that entire disk image (to get the system files just right), then restore any subsequent data files you want from subsequent incremental disk images.) I've restored my system twice and my dad's system about a dozen times with this program, without any problems.

More cheaply, if you only have Windows98, you can effectively backup your system with XXCopy to back up files, and LFN (long file names) Tools
to restore your long file names from within DOS. After Windows98, simply re-copying the files into place isn't enough to restore your system.

Never keep your backups on the same disk partition where the originals are stored (Acronis won't allow you to - you must create its backup zone if you have no "D" drive). Preferably, keep them on a different disk. Best of all, move copies to another site occasionally.


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Apr 04 - 09:01 PM

I run all my PR email announcements off a Hotmail account, keep the addys there too, as well as a text backup of the addys on the HD. For one essential mail list, someone offsite also keeps a text copy AND has the email password to send things when I can't for any reason. PR is more important that data, IMO.

But sometimes.... you just have to take the slacktime generated by a disaster, sit in the ditch laughing like a loon, and see what new path you may be aimed for when the dust clears.

And that can be a VERY good thing.

If all else fails, toss the live HD in the bathtub when fartyboy is in there having a nice long soak. It will resolve just about everything, and you can count on us to send you any chocolate we don't consume ourselves.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: s&r
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 04:09 AM

Don't blame your guest for the trouble though - blame the weirdos that produce these invasive programs.


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: KateG
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 07:16 AM

s&r is right...to a point. But I still think you should set fartyboy to supplying you with chocolate and cleaning the house. What's the use of kids if you can't put them to work...at least that was my mom's theory.


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: GUEST,KB
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 08:26 AM

Have been having problems with rediculously slow internet access from home. Downloaded Adaware and Spybot & ran them (in that order) - now it flies along just like new. They are great - assuming you have a compatible operating system.
Spybot downloaded & installed with no great delay - dunno what's wrong with yours Liz! Is it OK now?
Nemesis - I hope your system is sorted soon. Sounds like hell! - I found alcohol quite a useful tonic when wrestling with my machine, though had a small amount of chocolate grudgingly spared from Om's easter egg. AND getting rid of Omlit for an hour or two... Enthusiastic 13yr old "in yer face" is not conducive to concentration.


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 09:42 AM

Perhaps fartyboy would enjoy this Mudcat Classic:

KITTY LITTER CAKE

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: mooman
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 10:59 AM

Or to give this thread an additional musical twist, how about some of:

Utah Phillips's Moose Turd Pie?

Peace

moo


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: okthen
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 11:14 AM

I downloaded adaware last night and ean it this morning about 11am, and it got rid of "interstitial". Just checked control panel and it's back!


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Nemesis
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 01:11 PM

LOL (suggestions for farty boy **g**)

I still have something called ATIupdate 5 .exe stuck on the desktop and mysterious programmes keep appearing in my Add/remove .. have chucked out a couple and the keyboard is performing better (at the moment!). (MSN Messenger keeps trying to install itself every time I click "remove")

OKTEN: I think you and me mate, are going to have to reinstall Windows completely - then run Spybot/Ad Aware

Am on WIN95 - so have to bit the bullet (uninstall Windowes, then reinstal upgrade to max on this computer (=WIN98) : shud have done today but what was more imperative (dilemma) getting "Housing" or Social Services to acknowledge farty boy's needs (spending all day waiting for someone to "call you back")- or blocking up phone lines (no broadband!) (Gawd, yes, I live in the Antediluvian computer age - hoping to make it to the Stone Age with an upgrade!)

PS: Am sick of chocolate .. the corner shop has now run out and I am on the "chocolate-flavoured topping"... started on the booze last night (held out for a fortnight). Lucky break - BBC thing delayed for a week (Thank heavens!)

PPS: Luckily the corner shop has now been taken over by very nice Italians eager to impress with a discount range of Italian wines displacing the toilet tissue and cat food


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Grab
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 01:41 PM

Have you run MSCONFIG to check what's being run at startup? If you haven't, that's a good start.

And if you know the name of the program, open up REGEDIT and search for it. You may also find it's hooked in somewhere in there.

Graham.


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 02:31 PM

Geeze, lock up the wine, at least!

Regarding social services-- if you are serious about that, set a deadline for HIM to get the help he needs from THEM, and when he fails to meet your deadline, ask him to leave. If he does not, call the coppers and have them chuck him out. They will make sure he gets hooked up with social services faster than s.s. will listen to YOU.

The sad truth is, you can't help people when they are stuck in the mud-- the inertia is more than one person can usually overcome. But the System can, and will, and might. If you are harboring him to be nice-- stop, because he will get help quicker if he is twisting in the wind.

~S~


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Subject: Lyr Add: REINSTALLING WINDOWS (Les Barker)
From: okthen
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 02:38 PM

REINSTALLING WINDOWS
by LES BARKER

I've bought a computer;
It cost a thousand pound
Every time I switch it on
It keeps on falling down.

I used to think it was my friend
Now it drives me round the bend;
You'd be surprised the time I spend
Reinstalling Windows.

I switch it on; What is this?
Something wrong with config.sys;
This isn't my idea of bliss,
Reinstalling Windows.

I want to share my printers and
I want to share my files,
I want to share my anger 'cos
It drives me bloomin' wild.

My songs, they say, can be sublime;
I've conquered cadence, mastered rhyme;
Nowadays I spend my time
Reinstalling Windows.

Reinstall; Oh what fun!
It says it helps you get things done;
Everyday now everyone's
Reinstalling windows.

Watch the screen ; watch it say
All you do is plug and play
How do I spend every day?
Reinstalling Windows.

It can't find my printer and
It can't find my mouse;
The other day it told me they
were in some other house.

Still unplugged , still unplayed,
Emailed God in search of aid
He's far too busy I'm afraid,
Reinstalling Windows.

Up at dawn for one more try;
Does it work? Can pigs fly?
How do I expect to die?
Reinstalling Windows.

I used to like a drink or three;
No time now; Don't call for me;
I'm going to spend eternity
Reinstalling Windows.

It doesn't like my Modem and
Detests all CD-Roms;
Let's see if the set up wizard
Recognises bombs.

I used to think it was my friend;
Now it drives me round the bend;
You'd be surprised the time I spend
Reinstalling Windows.

At the moment it's gone, but I don't think it'll be long before it's back. I think I'd better consult my computer guru.


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: s&r
Date: 07 Apr 04 - 05:42 PM

Ben and Joe Broughton do a lovely parody on Can't get my mojo working - substitute modem for mojo... wish I knew the words.

Stu


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Nemesis
Date: 09 Apr 04 - 05:40 PM

(Enters, Stage Left: staggering, weeping and wailing with frustration)

TechLOg: DAY 14 - lost in Hyperterminal

Have reformatted Drive and crunched everything - spent 6 hours reloading drivers, software and 3 hours on the phone to 12 different AOL agents trying to reconnect .. am on temporary "upstairs computer" that ducks out ...

The saga continues ... farty boy merely farts..


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Nemesis
Date: 09 Apr 04 - 05:41 PM

Ooops .. connection ducked out .. no weeping and wailing in Chat Room ("Thank god", I hear them cry!)


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Apr 04 - 05:52 PM

AOL???..*sigh* farty boys can at least be strung up by their thumbs..


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: GUEST,PC Surgeons
Date: 09 Apr 04 - 09:58 PM

If you are within 50 miles of Southampton I would be glad to help out a fellow mudcatter for free ...


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: GUEST,Marco
Date: 11 Apr 04 - 10:55 AM

N-Case
Removal Instructions and Help

*http://www.pchell.com/support/ncase.shtml

I've been searching for something to rid me of this instial search 180 thing, anf have and have found this page - above*

I don't understant what it does but I've printed it off and am going to give it a go.

Anyone know if it works?


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: okthen
Date: 11 Apr 04 - 01:33 PM

I ran Spybot a couple of times and then adaware deleting it each time, the last time was a couple of days ago and it hasn't come back, or at least I can't find it. Tenacous little sod tho'.


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 11 Apr 04 - 03:17 PM

n-case is an advertising gimmick. It is supposed to function only when you are in a "search mode," and then it claims to "provide you with links to better deals" similar to what you are searching for.

In other words, a device to let people who pay n-case get their ads in front of what you might otherwise find.

Some people actually seem to like it, and the complaint received by Microsoft has been that n-case quits working when some specific other software is installed.

In most cases, File Manager (Start - Control Panel - Add/Remove Software) should be able to remove the program, but Microsoft advises that the standard program removal cannot remove a couple of lines that the n-case install puts in Registry. I haven't seen detailed information on n-case's own removal program, but I suspect that it does NOT do a "clean" removal. Manually editing the Registry is recommended if you want to be sure you've cleaned it all out.

Note that if you have used something like Spybot or AdAware to "break" the program, File Manager (or the n-case removal program) may be able to do a normal removal, since either (or any other) of these programs may remove parts of the program without cleaning up the whole thing.

Most of the anti-spyware programs will only remove those portions of a program that relate to the collecting and reporting of information on your machine. In many cases, removing these "program spy fragments" will prevent the "main program" from functioning, and will often prevent removal of the rest of the program by normal methods.

Sometimes, distasteful as it may seem, the simplest alternative is to reinstall the offending program, then use the normal File Manager uninstall - and then do whatever manual cleanup (Registry and stray files) is needed.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: mooman
Date: 11 Apr 04 - 06:24 PM

Marco,

That's the same link I posted at the beginning of this thread and it does work!

Peace

moo


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Nemesis
Date: 12 Apr 04 - 08:11 AM

Day No. (.. I've lost count ...)

Enter STage Left: staggering, screaming in delight .. falls in a panting heap on shoulder of nearest 'Catter .(Sorry, guess that's Sussex Carole?)

The bloody thing (N-Case/ Inetlitlial 180 whatever/ PAD Search assistant) has gone... after reformatting the drive - sticking on extra memory - upgrading to WIN98 (overdue anyway) .. reloading everything .. 12 hours on the phone to every AOL agent in the Northern hemisphere (dug through the bag of junk CDs - useful as birdscarers in the veg patch) to load on a further version of AOL ... but not for long .. need a BT (British Telecom line to get anything else :(

Mucho thanks for support and goodwill (jumps up and down with barely contained relief) - just one huge festival deadline looming - tech meeting in 2 hours, several bands minus publicity for other gigs :(, hundreds of newsletter fans making grumbling sounds, BBC: .. delayed for a week thank heavens..

Ker-ist .... what a saga .. and farty-boy still farting ..
Still - it's a Bank Holiday and the sun's shining!
Nem
xx


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: s&r
Date: 12 Apr 04 - 09:04 AM

well done


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Nemesis
Date: 12 Apr 04 - 01:59 PM

Thanks :) S&R
xx
Nem


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: okthen
Date: 12 Apr 04 - 05:47 PM

Related thread


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 13 Apr 04 - 12:03 PM

And now, memorize this and practice saying it in front of a mirror:

"I'm sorry, but you may not use my computer. I depend on it to make my living, but it's old and has its quirks, so the only person I can trust to use it is me."


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Nemesis
Date: 13 Apr 04 - 04:42 PM

Definitely! In hand already Leeneia :) ... farty boy, begone!!
Nem
xx


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 13 Apr 04 - 11:03 PM

Nem, make sure you drop everything & log in immediately the instant he has begone.

sandra


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Nemesis
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 01:48 PM

Quick log in while he's out .. he's been "sofa-boy" all day today(at least another week before "Housing/ Social Services" reviews the situation... hum, hum ...)

BBC Watch Dog programme covered something similar last night
www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/thisweek/index3.shtml .. similar to the "bug" I mean, if not the perpetrator!

Nem
xx


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: KateG
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 02:00 PM

Congrats on reviving the computer. 'tain't easy and you done good!

And I still say farty boy should be put to work. TANSTAFL (there ain't no such thing as a free lunch). At the very least it will be good practice for when social services sends him out to get a real job. And if the tasks you think up are grotty enough, a job will seem like heaven.


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: GUEST, IT Manager NYC
Date: 30 Apr 04 - 12:40 PM

FYI here is one of the best sites i found for proper removal of n-case I've had to do it on several machines in the past yr. Manual removal works best http://www.doxdesk.com/parasite/nCase.html

http://www.doxdesk.com/parasite/nCase.html

Hope it helps


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Subject: RE: BS: TECH: buggary bastards rant
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 01 May 04 - 07:51 AM

hey, Nemesis, how's it going?

the parasite gone from your sofa?

sandra


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